<deb> one class page is at http://www.geocities.com/dbkiii/Christmas.html

<Janet> uhhh Deb has a great page.

<deb> I have 2 more ornaments to talk about, but don't have scans

<deb> was resting today

<Jessica> is that the same webpage from a week ago deb?

<deb> yes dear

<deb> it is

<star> look at all of us ready to make Christmas ornaments.....wow

<Monica> ok, great I love to learn new ornaments!

<Janet> So how many of you were here when Deb and I did this before?

<star> not I said the hen

<deb> raise your hands

<Janet> Anyway, Deb and I are going to pass the caps back and forth and tell how to make different ornaments, then we're going to get all of your ideas out of you.

<brenda> roflol

<Jessica> I was here....so I'm gonna sit on my hands and watch tonight

<Lory> i think i was here

<deb> I hae a couple of new ones to talk about but don't have pics of them

<deb> janet - you can go first ok

<Janet> Uhhh okay.

<Janet> I can't remember where I put my wire ornament.

<Janet> I have a scan of it, somewhere.

<brenda> uhhhhhhhhh lol

<deb> in the scanner?

<kathie> Janet I would like to see the scan of the wire things... how are u

<Janet> Naw, I uploaded it

<Janet> Hey, Kathie!

<brenda> hey RK

<RubberKin> hi brenda

<Janet> Let me look for this scan in a minute, and start out with my cheap and easy ones...

<Janet> no pictures OH YEAH CAPS...

<star> cheap.......and easy............is that how you see us?

<Janet> BUT I'M GOING TO SEND YOU ALL TO THE WOOD DIE CUT SECTION OF THE CRAFT STORE

<Janet> YOU CAN FIND COOL CHRISTMAS AND SEASONAL DIE CUTS TO PAINT AND DECORATE WITH GLITTER AND STUFF LIKE THAT...

Lory is easy but I aint cheap

<cak> By die cuts you mean the cut out shapes?

<Janet> YEP, THOSE WOODEN CUT OUT SHAPES

<Janet> YOU CAN PAINT THEM.

<Janet> THEY LOOK REALLY NEAT HANGING

<Janet> OF COURSE I REMEMBER MY FIRST YEAR TRYING TO DECORATE MY OWN TREE. I WAS SO BROKE, WAS AN INTERN

<deb> I glittered and painted some white snowflakes

<deb> those were awesome

<RubberKin> you can also find those wooden sleds that are about a foot long and paint and stencil those with a seasonal motif too

<Janet> SO I CAREFULLY CRACKED ALL MY WALNUTS THAT YEAR, GLUED 'EM BACK TOGETHER WITH A RIBBON HANGER

<Janet> AND PAINTED THEM

<sber> you can rubber stamp and emboss them after they are painted

<cak> I bet your nut ornaments were lovely (I love organic) Janet.

<Janet> YEAH, THOSE ROUND WOOD ONES, STAMP AND PAINT AND THEY'RE SPECTACULAR.

<Janet> YOU CAN MAKE ORNAMENTS WITH CARDSTOCK AND STAMPING, TOO.

<Janet> PHIL HAS SOME TO SHOW US?

<phil> http://www.red-castle.com/gallery/bz/beckyzec15.jpg

<star> you do, Phil? show us.

<phil> http://www.red-castle.com/gallery/bz/beckyzec13.jpg

<Janet> THESE ARE GORGEOUS

<phil> http://www.red-castle.com/fit_it/vol1/diam01.jpg

<phil> http://www.red-castle.com/fit_it/frames/aztecdiamond/AztecDiamond_0010Judi01.jpg

<Janet> THESE ARE LIKE FIT-IT BOXES DECORATED AND HUNG?

<phil> I saw a lady make this basket into little tree oran. and put candy in them

<phil> http://www.red-castle.com/fit_it/vol1/bskt02.jpg

<deb> WOW

<phil> http://www.red-castle.com/fit_it/vol1/snowman1.jpg

<phil> This snowman took me about 5 hours to make, but I loved it until I dropped a book on it

<phil> http://www.red-castle.com/projects/jul2000/jul2000.htm a lot of them here

<phil> that is it

<deb> PHIL I"m impressed

<sber> wow phil, all kinds of spiffy designs

<deb> and how did you make those

<phil> in the 1800 there were a lot of trees decorated with paper and cardboard

<Janet> i'M INSPIRED. I HAVE MY FIT IT CD. PRACTICALLY ANY OF THOSE BOXES COULD BE ADAPTED TO BE AN ORNAMENT

<phil> they are all based on Fit-It boxes

<sber> yup you could size them tiny to huge!

<deb> does everyone know about the FIT-IT CD?

<brenda> yep

<StampOwl> yes just wish our $$$$ would improve down here so I can get one

<Janet> I LOVE MINE

<sber> really pretty if your printer will take heaver card stock you can print the box template on the white sid of mirror card then cut out and scor and fold really nice!

<deb> those are gorgeous

<deb> need to be sur to score those folds

<Jessica> they are gorgeous alright...unfortunatly my printer will not take the heavy cardstock

<Janet> dEB, SHOW YOUR SNOWMEN, THOSE ARE WAY COOL (I'M STILL LOOKING FOR MY WIRE ONES)

<star> as usual I can't get anything but your regular site to open up

<deb> ok -

<Janet> JESSICA, MINE WON'T EITHER, I PRINT ON REGULAR PAPER AND THEN CUT THAT AND THE CARDSTOCK AT THE SAME TIME

<Jessica> good idea janet

<deb> ok

<deb> my page is at

<star> women are always beating the system

Janet PASSES THE CAPs to deb

<deb> http://www.geocities.com/dbkiii/Christmas.html

<Jessica> lol star

<deb> it takes a little while to load

<Janet> but it's a beautiful page

<deb> THE FIRST ORNAMENT

<deb> ON THE PAGE IS THE CLEAR GLASS ORNAMENTS

<deb> THAT YOU USE PAINT ON THE INSIDE

<deb> SWIRL AROUND

<deb> YOU CAN USE ACRYLICS OR GLASS PAINTS

<phil> if you use 3M poster tape #109 it will stick the template to the cardstock and not leave any marks I love that tape

<deb> THE ACRYLICS WILL GIVE AN OPAQUE LOOK

<deb> AND THE GLASS PAINTS A TRANSPARENT LOOK

<deb> DRAIN THEM UPSIDE DOWN SO THE EXCESS PAINT RUNS OUT

<Janet> I love making those.

<deb> JANET'S PAGE HAS SOME OF THOSE TOO

<deb> JANET DO YOU HAVE YOUR URL

<deb> ANOTHER OPTION I SAW ON THE CLEAR GLASS BALLS

<Janet> yeah, let me find it. it's a long one I need to cut and paste it

<sber> didn't janet do hers with fabric paints?

<deb> IS TO COLOR SOMETHING ON THE TRANSPARENT FILM AND THEN PUT IT INSIDE THE GLASS BALL

<deb> NO

<sber> Deb, wow! did you do all those?

<deb> JANET USED GLASS PAINTS

<deb> YES'M

<deb> NOW

<deb> I SAW SOME ORNAMENTS TODAY

<sber> oh that's right the bottle threw me off

<deb> THAT ARE DONE WITH THOSE PAINTED

<deb> RED SHINY BALLS

<deb> OR RED

<deb> YOU KNOW - JUST THE PLAIN GLASS CHRISTMAS BALLS

<deb> NOW

<deb> YOU TAKE A GOLD PAINT PEN

<deb> AND DRAW LITTLE DECORATIONS ON THEM

<deb> YOU CAN WRITE NAMES

<deb> OR DRAW SWIRLS

<deb> OR DOTS

<deb> THE ONE I SAW HAD NOEL WRITTEN ON IT

<deb> AND LITTLE DOTS AND SWIRLS

<deb> AND I SAW ONE THAT HAD HOLLY ON IT

<Janet> my mom still has one I did in kindergarten that way

<deb> THEY WERE REALLY CUTE AND SOOOO FAST TO DO

<Janet> I got my glass ornament page url

<Janet> I used glass paint

<Janet> http://www.cyberstampers.com/convention/class/991107/dettermargul.html

<deb> OK - SPEW IT JANET

<Janet> LOL see why I needed to cut and paste it?

<deb> TAKE A LOOK AT JANET'S THEY ARE THE TRANSPARENT ONES

<deb> MINE WERE THE ACRYLIC PAINTS

<phil> deb how did you do the santa?

<Janet> these are a blast to do

<deb> THE WREATH?

<Janet> Yeah, deb tell about that, it's so neat looking

<deb> WELL - YOU USE THE HUGE STRAW HATS

<deb> AND JUST CUT OUT FELT FOR THE FACE

<deb> AND GLUE IT TOGETHER

<deb> AND GLUE ON BUTTONS AND SUCH

<deb> I HAD THE MOST FUN MAKING THE SNOWMAN WREATH

<deb> THAT IS MADE USING 2 STRAW HATS

<deb> 1 SLIGHTLY SMALLER THAN THE OTHER

<deb> AND YOU CUT THE SMALLER ONE IN HALF

<deb> AND THEN GLUE IT ON THE OTHER STRAW HAT SO THAT IT MAKES A HAT FOR THE SNOWMAN

<Jessica> hey guys...I'm sorry but I gotta go...

<Jessica> have a nice time and a nice night folks

<deb> THE FACE BEING ON THE ROUND RAISED PART OF THE BIGGEST STRAW HAT

<Janet> good to see you, Jessica

<deb> AND JUST GLUE ON THE EYES AND MOUTH AND SUCH

<deb> GLUE ON FUZZY BALLS FOR HIS EAR MUFFS

<deb> AND GLUE ON A PIECE OF FABRIC FOR HIS SCARF

<deb> THE NOSE IS FELT

<deb> AND YOU SPRAY PAINT THOSE HATS FIRST

<deb> OK

<phil> they are nice

<deb> ONE OTHER ORNAMENT THAT I SAW THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY CUTE

<deb> THANKS PHIL

<deb> IS TO USE A PIECE OF VELVET

<deb> AND CUT IT IN A ROUND CIRCLE ABOUT 12"

<deb> TAKE A STYRAFOAM BALL

<deb> PUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CIRCLE AND DRAW THE VELVET UP AROUND IT

<deb> THEN TIE IT WITH A FANCY GOLD CORD

<deb> ADD A COUPLE OF TASSLES ON THE END OF THE CORD

<deb> AND VOILA - AN ELEGANT AND FAST VICTORIAN ORNAMENT

<deb> NOW I WAS LUCKY

<deb> I FOUND THE VELVET

<cak> This would be fabulous with the embossed velvet

<deb> WITH GOLD EMBOSSING ON IT

<deb> ONE WAS JUST RED VELVET

<deb> WITH GOLD SWIRLS ALL OVER IT

<Janet> ooooo that sounds just gorgeous

<deb> AND THE OTHER WAS DARK GREEN

<deb> WITH THE WORDS NOEL WRITTEN ALL OVER IT

<deb> MADE REALLY CUTE ORNAMENTS

<deb> OH - ALSO

<deb> YOU CAN USE PHILS'S FIT IT CD

<deb> AND PRINT OUT SOME OF THE BOXES

<deb> AND IRON ON YOUR VELVET

<deb> AND MAKE VICTORIAN ORNAMENTS LIKE THAT TOO

<deb> CAROL DUVAL JUST DID A SEGMENT THIS WEEK ON THAT

<Debby> iron on the velvet?

<Janet> Hey, you could stamp on the velvet, you know, with the iron? christmas type images, stuff that and hang those

<deb> YES YOU IRON THE VELVET ONTO THE BOX

<phil> deb I tried the velvet and melted the velvet

<deb> YOU HAVE TO USE THE

<Janet> LOL what Deb just said. :)

<deb> ACETATE RAYON VELVET ONLY

<GailWink> I really like the santa xmas wreath. Glad you put on the snowman too. Helped to understand about the second hat.

<phil> there is more than one velvet no one told me that

<deb> I HAVE A URL FOR THAT ORNAMENT - HANG ON

<cak> Do you use the fusible web to iron the velvet to the card support?

<Debby> how does it stick to the cardstock or whatever you use?

<deb> YES PHIL THERE IS - AND IT'S INDA HARD TO FIND

<deb> YOU CAN USE THE FUSE IT

<phil> I used fusibale

<deb> INTERFACING

<Debby> okey dokey thanks...

<deb> http://www.hgtv.com/HGTV/project/0,1158,CRHO_project_18749,FF.html

<deb> THAT'S THE URL FOR THE IRONED ON VELVET TO THE BOX

<Nansea> (thx)

<deb> HEY PHIL

<deb> HOW BOUT A SPECIAL ON THAT FITIT

<deb> I THINK THEY ARE GONNA NEED IT

<deb> TO MAKE THESE ORNAMENTS

<deb> WHAT DO YOU THINK?

<Janet> Everybody needs it. :)

<Debby> love mine

<deb> OOPS I THINK PHIL FAINTED

<phil> $25 for either one until midnight

<Debby> poor Phil ganging up on him...lol

<Janet> I'll match ya, Phil. After I tell about the beaded ones, I'll give free shipping on tonight's bead buys.

<Janet> $25? for real, Phil??

<deb> WOW $25 FOR EITHER FIT IT UNTIL MIDNIGHT TONIGHT

<GailWink> either one? Which do I get first???

<brenda> wow

<phil> any free shipping us

<deb> PHIL WHAT'S YOUR EMAIL ADDY

<Janet> (Deb, we're bad, but oh so effective)

<brenda> if my car hadnt tore up

<Sandy> Phil..Have you tried the velvet paper to make the ornaments?

<deb> WOW AND FREE SHIPPING

<Janet> Gail, you need both.

<brenda> i would grab that

<phil> no not velvet paper

<brenda> the frames is awesome

<deb> WOW SANDY

<phil> I bet it would work didn't think of it was trying real stuff

<deb> I HAVE SOME VELVET PAPER DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THAT

<deb> AND I BET YOU COULD PUT IT THROUGH THE PRINTER

<deb> AND PRINT THE PATTERN ON THE BACK SIDE

<Sandy> I wasn't sure if it would crease enough

<Janet> whoa. I have velvet paper too. I had to have it and don't know what to do with it. (or didn't until just now<g>)

<deb> HMMM SOUNDS LIKE AN EXPERIEMENT IS NEEDED

<phil> don't press to hard when you crease it

<deb> PHIL WHAT IS YOUR EMAIL ADDY

<phil> phil@red-castle.com

<deb> THANKS PHIL

<deb> OK - THE SNOWMEN ORNAMENTS

<deb> ARE MADE FROM CAN LIDS

<deb> THAT I PAINTED

<deb> WITH KRYLON

<deb> SPRAY PAINT

<deb> I PRIMED THEM FIRST

<deb> THEN PAINTED THEM WITH A GLOSSY WHITE SPRAY PAINT

<cak> I wonder if you could cover any shiny-from-folding areas with embossing (I see gold)?

<deb> TOOK A NAIL AND A HAMMER AND PUNCHED A TINY HOLE

<deb> IN THE TOP AND BOTTOM OF THEM SO i COULD WIRE THEM TOGETHER

<Janet> (cak, I think I would)

<deb> I USED GLITTER ON THEM

<GailWink> How do you make edges smooth?

<deb> AND THEN ACRYLIC PAINT FOR THE FACE

<deb> AND CLAY FOR THE NOSE

<deb> OH EDGES OF THE CAN LIDS?

<GailWink> yes

<deb> I HAVE ONE OF THOSE CAN OPENERS THAT CUTS THE TOP OFF THE CAN

<deb> OR YOU CAN USE JUICE CAN LIDS

<deb> THAT JUST PULL OFF

<phil> are they plastic lids or metal

<GailWink> THat would work! THanks.

<deb> YOU CAN USE A SMALL CAN OF JUICE AND A LEMONADE SIZE CAN

<deb> METAL

<deb> THEN I JUST CUT LITTLE CUB SCOUT TYPE SCARVES FOR AROUND HIS NECK

<deb> WHICH ALSO COVERED THE WIRE

<deb> I USED CLAY TO MAKE THE ORANGE NOSES

<deb> THE CARROT NOSES

<deb> HMMM WONDER WHERE WE COULD GET CLAY

<Debby> lol

<deb> ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS A CLAY STORE IN THE MALL

<Nansea> nah...LOL

<deb> ONE THAT SELLS EVERY COLOR

<Nansea> i can't think of one....

<Nansea> <G>

<Debby> gosh wish I knew of one...VBG!

<deb> (SPARKLE MUST BE ASLEEP)

<deb> LOL

<Janet> LOL

<deb> ANYWAY

<GailWink> apparently!

<deb> THEN I HUNG THEM WITH GOLD STRING FROM THE TOP

<deb> YOU CAN ADD A HAT IF YOU WISH OUT OF BLACK SHINY CARDSTOCK

<deb> OR FROM BLACK FUN FOAM

<Janet> (Quintessentials in the craft mall)

<deb> THE LAST ORNAMENT I HAVE ON THAT PAGE

<deb> IS MADE WITH THIN CLAY

<phil> I bet canning lids would work

<deb> STAMPED, BAKED AND THEN COLORED

<Nansea> phil i bet they would too...

<Janet> canning lids are cheap, too

<deb> GLITTER WAS ADDED TO THE ORNAMENT IN SOME PLACES

<deb> YES PHIL I BET THOSE WOULD WORK

<deb> AND THEY ARE ALREADY NICE SMOOTH EDGES

<Nansea> maybe you could use the ring and use it as a frame..?

<deb> I MIGHT ADD THAT SOME VEGETABLE CANS ARE ALREADY ENAMELED WITH WHITE ON THE INSIDE

<Janet> Dena, good idea.

<deb> I LOVE TO RECYCLE SO I LOVE TO FIND THINGS TO DO WITH STUFF AROUND THE HOUSE

<deb> OK - ANY QUESTIONS?

<Janet> what kind of paint again?

<deb> DON'T LEAVE

<deb> THERE'S A SURPRISE COMING AT END OF CLASS

<deb> PAINT ON THE SNOWMEN?

Nansea loves suprises

<deb> KRYLON

<Janet> Yeah, you have to hear about my wire ones and the bead ones.

<deb> THE CLAY ORNAMENT IS COLORED WITH MARKERS

<Nansea> deb url for snowmen?

<Janet> okay, thanks.

<Nansea> and clay ornament?

<deb> UM

<deb> ANYONE HAVE THAT URL THEY CAN PASTE

<deb> http://www.geocities.com/dbkiii/Christmas.html

<deb> THERE YOU GO

<Nansea> THANKS!

<GailWink> http://www.geocities.com/dbkiii/Christmas.html

<Janet> Thanks Deb.

<deb> OK - TAG TEAM - JANET - YOU'RE IT

<Janet> YIKES! I'M IT!

<Janet> http://dm.net/~janet/coppertree.jpg IS WHERE THE WIRE ORNAMENT IS

<Janet> THIS IS REALLY EASY AND REALLY CHEAP, IT'S JUST MADE WITH WIRE FROM THE HARDWARE STORE

<Nansea> thx janet

<phil> wow I like those

<Janet> THE COPPER ONE, THE OTHER ONE IS MADE WITH ARTISTIC WIRE

<Janet> WHICH IS NOT VERY EXPENSIVE.

<Janet> SUPER EASY

<Janet> IF YOU HAVE A JIG (TIME TO STAMP SELLS THEM) YOU SET THE PEGS IN A TREE SHAPE

<Janet> IF YOU DON'T HAVE A JIG, YOU CAN GET A SCRAP BOARD AND SOME NAILS AND HAMMER NAILS INTO A TREE OUTLINE SHAPE

<phil> be sure to use finishing nails

<cheri> those look great!

<Sandy> Any ideas on how you could make them into pins?

<Janet> MAKE A LOOP WITH YOUR PLIERS AND PUT THAT LOOP ON THE TOP NAIL/PEG, THEN LOOP YOUR WIRE AROUND THE TOP NAIL ON THE LEFT, FROM THE BOTTOM

<sber> gee---phil do you have experience with Not using finishing nails??

<Janet> THEN ACROSS AND AROUND THE TOP NAIL ON THE RIGHT

<Janet> SANDY, YOU COULD PUT A PIN BACK ON THE BACK OF THE TRUNK

<Janet> YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN PIN BACKS WITH WIRE

<sber> Sandy wire on a pin back doen the center tree trunk?

<deb> just wire it on?

<cak> How about getting a star tie tack and slipping the tree on?

<Janet> JUST CUT A LENGTH OF IT, PUT A LOOP ON ONE END AND SHARPEN THE OTHER END AND BEND IT TO FIT INTO T HE LOOP

<Sandy> They would make neat pins with beads...

<deb> OH that would be cool cak

<Janet> OH YEAH, CAK, THAT WOULD BE GREAT

<sber> good idea Janet!

<deb> there is a page in bead and button magazine this month with the tree with beads for lapel pins

<Janet> HANGING BEADS ON THE BRANCHES IS EASY, JUST PICK OUT ASSORTED BEADS, STRING THEM ON WIRE AND PUT LOOPS IN THE WIRE WITH YOUR PLIERS

<Janet> ANYWAY, AFTER YOU HAVE STRUNG THE WIRE BACK AND FORTH DOWN TO YOUR BOTTOM BRANCH, YOU LOOP IT DOWN FOR THE TRUNK, THEN BRING IT BACK UP TO THE TOP, WEAVING IT IN AND OUT OF THE WIRES THAT MAKE THE BRANCHES

<Janet> THEN SECURE IT BY WRAPPING IT AROUND THE TOP LOOP

<Janet> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

<deb> yep

<sber> yup! especially when there's a photo to look at

<Janet> EVEN MAKING A BIG SPIRAL WITH WIRE LOOKS COOL HANGING ON A TREE

<deb> > ) that heps

<phil> Janet that reminds me of the cranberry popcorn stings I loved that as a kid

<cak> Yes--except for the loops you put in the wire when using beads. Are the loops to make sure the beads don't "travel"?

<deb> I have a wire ornament I"m working on for a tues nite class - but I have to make it first

<Janet> YOU CAN REALLY MAKE IT REFLECT THE LIGHT BY USING A METAL FILE AND ROUGHING IT UP A BIT.

<Janet> THE SCRATCHES CATCH THE LIGHT

<Janet> ANY SHAPE MADE WITH WIRE, WITH OR WITHOUT A BEAD HANGING IN OR ON IT, LOOKS COOL.

<Janet> AND THOSE DO STORE EASIER THAN PAPER ORNAMENTS.

<Janet> MY BEAD ORNAMENT, i WORKED SO HARD ON IT, IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL BEFORE i BROKE IT

<RubberKin> does anyone know if those glass bulbs can be cooked at a low temp by any chance?

<sber> yes

<cak> You broke it Janet? Oh no!

<sber> the glass ornament can be baked in the over

<deb> well work it up janet - and we'll do it on next tuesday

<Janet> I USED SEED BEADS, AND DID A MODIFIED PEYOTE STITCHING AROUDN IT (AND IF THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE I CAN EXPLAIN BETTER)

<RubberKin> great thans sber:)

<RubberKin> thanks

<phil> I love Christmas

<Nansea> i do too phil.

<GailWink> me too

<Serene> well, phil, any holiday where you git prezzies AND choklit is good in my book

<cindyc> that figures Phil... you are such a giver...

<Janet> STRUNG A LINE OF SEED BEADS AND MADE IT A CIRCLE ON THE TOP... THEN STRING ANOTHER 10-15 OF 'EM AND HOOKED THOSE INTO THE RING AROUND LIKE LOOPS

<AmyLPR> me too my birthday is 5 days after Christmas

<sber> my son mad some neat ornaments by covering the glass balls with polymer clay snakes that were red and white twisted together

<Janet> OOOO SB, i BET THAT WAS WAY COOL

<GailWink> Mine is too Amy! the 30th

<AmyLPR> cool

<Janet> THAT HOLLY CANE THAT SPARKLE TAUGHT A FEW WEEKS AGO WOULD WORK WELL ON A GLASS ORNAMENT TOO

<deb> oh cool

<sber> yes they were, though they are kinda heavy

<RubberKin> I just got an idea to marble a glass ornament with liquid sculpey and then cook it!!

<deb> SBER - sounds like a class brewing to ME

<AmyLPR> whare can i get tri-beads?

<Janet> RK REPORT BACK, THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD WORK

<deb> we'd love to have that on any tuesday nite class??

<Serene> i am wonderin.... why doesn't the glass shater when we bake it?

<cindyc> oo rubberkin.. sounds neat! let us know how it goes!

<RubberKin> I will janet...will pick up some this week and let you all know

<deb> probably have to bake it on low heat

<deb> sber do you know what temp?

<Janet> SERENE, PUT IT IN THE OVEN AND THEN BRING IT UP TO TEMPERATURE, AND IT'S NOT THAT HOT A TEMPERATURE EITHER

<sber> giggle, deb---you are funny---I already told you haow to do it!

<Serene> but the glass is so thin

<Serene> that's what i am thinkin

<RubberKin> serene glass is done at a high temp so if cooked at a low temp like 250-275 it should be fine

<Janet> DEPENDS ON THE POLYCLAY BRAND, EITHER 220 OR 260

<deb> but we need to see you do it

<cak> That's what I was guessing too--you don't heat it fast enough to introduce stress.

<sber> :0)

<deb> wwuld anyone be interested in a Christmas Gifts Homemade for $10 or less Class??

<Janet> MY LAST BEAD ORNAMENT WAS JUST LIKE MAKING HANGY EARRINGS, ONLY WITH TREE HOOKS INSTEAD OF EAR WIRES

<phil> make sure no metal touches it

<sber> anybody see the carol duvall live holiday work shop yesterday?

<Janet> I WOULD LOVE IT, DEB!

<AmyLPR> i would deb

<sber> sorry janet

<RubberKin> great thanks I will remember to put the ornament in first and not preheat!!

<deb> ok - brenda will get us on the schedule

<cheri> love it deb

<Janet> KEWL!

<RubberKin> yes deb that would be excellent

<deb> I have several idea - BUT you hae to bring an idea to class with you

<brenda> yep sure will

<brenda> i have an ornament for that

<Janet> I HAVE THAT SIX PACK OF BEADS, WOULD MAKE SIX PAIRS OF EARRINGS FOR $5. THAT COUNTS AS CHEAP IN MY BOOK. :)

<cindyc> i have a hole book full.... lol

<Serene> those little wine glass lamps make nice gifts for less than ten bucks

<Janet> BRENDA, TELL ABOUT THE ORNAMENT??

<deb> wow - sure does

<brenda> how about nov25th or the next week

<Janet> HOW DO YOU MAKE A WINE GLASS LAMP?

<cheri> I love those lamps

AmyLPR asks "Where can I get tri-beads?"

<deb> anytime brenda

<sber> they are very easy and apretty too

<brenda> you know those large pods of okra too large to eat

<cheri> ust learned how to make them last week

<Serene> you make a lamp shade of vellum janet and put a votive in the glass

<Janet> AMY, I DON'T HAVE ANY, LOOK AT RIOGRANDE.COM

<cindyc> janet... got my beads... they are beauuuuuuuuuuuuuuutiful!

<Janet> OOOOOO.

<Janet> OH GOOD, CINDY.

<Serene> Amy, look at shipwreckbeads.com too

<AmyLPR> ok thx

<Janet> (OKAY, I DO HAVE TRI-BEADS, BUT NONE I'M WILLING TO PART WITH.<G>)

<deb> lol

<Nansea> lol

<deb> carey knocked over one of my bead boxes today!!!!

<sber> yesterday saw the cutest rubber stamped ornament idea--

<cak> lol!

<Janet> YES, SB?? SHARE??

<cak> Poor deb!

<deb> I now have a million mixed beads

<sber> oh no deb!

<cheri> speaking of beads, Janet I got mine in the mail yesterday and they were GREAT! Thanks!

<Janet> (DID YOU LET HIM LIVE?)

<brenda> and then you paint the top with red then a band of white then a little pink for a santa face all with acrylic paints

<deb> NO

<Janet> OH GOOD DEAL, CHERI

<brenda> these are so cute and so cheapppppppppppp

<phil> I think the price was too low the way the orders are coming thanks

<sber> you take a glass ball ornament remove the metal top--don't loose it

<Janet> BRENDA, WHAT WERE YOU PAINTING ON AGAIN?

<brenda> wtg phil

<deb> LOL PHIL

<brenda> an okra stem

<Nansea> okra stem?

<brenda> the large ones that is dried and too hard to eat

<Janet> OH WOW. THAT IS GREAT! I CAN VISUALIZE THAT.

<sber> get some water clean up varnish and pour into the ball ornament-swish it around to coat the whole inside

<brenda> it is curved looking like the old santsas

<Janet> VARNISH INSIDE, SB?

<sber> tip upside down and let all the extra drain back into the bottle

<deb> ok - you varnish the inside of the glass ball?

<sber> set it aside--take some white tissue paper-stamp with perm ink and let dry--color in with color pencils

<Janet> OKAY WITH YA SO FAR

<sber> then cut out the design-leaving just a bit of the tissue as a border around it

<Janet> OHHHHH

<sber> YES VARNISH ON THE INSIDE

<Janet> I CAN SEE THAT.

<sber> it end's up being like glue that dries clear

<brenda> what does the varnish do?

<cindyc> give her a chance girls.. she is doing fine

<brenda> holds the tissue inside the ball?

<Janet> makes the light all refracted

<brenda> oh ok

<deb> wow

<deb> I gotta try that

<sber> now you roll up the cutout design

<brenda> me too

<sber> and insert it through the top of the ball if you have some long tweezers it a chenile stem you can open the desin piece inside

<sber> the ball

<AmyLPR> cool

<Lynn> Coming in late. Last week we used droppers of Dr. Whoever's liquid paint into glass ornaments and swished.

<sber> press it to the varnish to stick into place

<Lynn> We were told ading any glitter would set the color. very pretty.

<brenda> wow sber that sounds neat

<sber> after you have a few designs inside the ball all pressed down pour in ultra fine glitter

<phil> does the paper get clear?

<deb> thansk l ynn

<Janet> Lynn, I think that's what mine are at http://www.cyberstampers.com/convention/class/991107/dettermargul.html (only i used glass paint)

<sber> shake it to cover the inside and pour out the loose stuff

<Janet> wow. with glitter, that would be awesome

<cindyc> irridescent ultra fine... not a dark color

<sber> then put the metal top back on and you are done.

<cindyc> yes, phil.. you cant see the paper at all

<deb> and don't try to mix the paint using bb's

<Janet> LOL

<cak> LOL--the voice of experience

<deb> it breaks the ornament

<AmyLPR> lol

<Janet> Oh. I remember something else we used to do, like stringing popcorn and cranberries.

<deb> and don't ask me how I know that

<Janet> LOL

<cindyc> make sure you shake the glitter well to cover all sides...

<cindyc> i saw that segment too.. wasn't it cool sber?

<Janet> anybody besides me make shrunken heads for your tree?

<sber> if youstamp and color on a colored tissue use a color of glitter similar to the tissue

<cak> No! But I'd love to know how!

<Serene> shrunken heads?

<GailWink> That sounds like Halloween to me Janet!

<cindyc> from apples janet?

<Janet> this is fun, easy and delicious

<Lory> now theres a present for the inlaws

<Janet> Yep, from apples.

<sber> yes Cindy it was great!

<Janet> carve faces in apples

<Janet> LOL lory

<Janet> eat what you carve out

<deb> OH with the clear glass balls

<cindyc> di dyou see the one, sber where they did the transperancy inside the glass balls?

<deb> you need to rinse it out with vinegar

<Janet> even if you dont' carve faces that good, when they turn shrunken, they always turn out way cool

<deb> I have the URL for that if you need it

<Carole> I'm sorry, but I've got to run. Thanks for class, Deb and Janet!

<deb> thanks Carole

<cheri> rinse what out with vinegar?

<deb> whoops

<Janet> and they smell great hanging on the tree

<deb> she's fast

<deb> the clear glass balls

<sber> yup Cindy, that is a neat one too

<cindyc> the glass ball before

<deb> rinse with vinegar

<cindyc> i wanna try it too..

<Janet> we used to carve faces and call them elves

<cindyc> need some glass balls.. lol

<deb> the paint adheres better

<cheri> oh, sorry, thanks

<Janet> and dries faster too

<Janet> i will tell ya, allow days and days for these to dry

<deb> yeah they do take a while

<cak> Just air dry them Janet?

<GailWink> In time for Xams if we do now?

<cindyc> i wonder if you could use a dehydrator to speed that up janet?

<deb> yep

<Janet> Yep, I did. or well until I got impatient, then I put 'em in the oven

<GailWink> xmas not exams!

<cindyc> lol

<deb> problem is you needd to sit them upsdie down

<deb> to drain

<deb> so it's kinda hard to get air in there

<Janet> I'd allow like two weeks

<cak> Uh, I'm talking about the heads--air dry?

<Janet> oh the heads, yes, air dry

<Janet> they go shrunken about perfect in about a week.

<cak> (thanks!)

<Janet> then you can varnish them if you want

<deb> janet do you peal them?

<Janet> but we never did, we just left 'em on the tree so they'd smell good and then tossed 'em out with the tree. we liked carving them every year

<sber> you can use the dehydrator though on the lowest temp. made the shrunken heads with my family several years ago

<Janet> sorta kinda. you leave the peel like where you want hair. or warts

<deb> LOL

<deb> k

<phil> we used cloves or cinnamon sticks on them also

<phil> I can remember how

<deb> I've seen those but never made them

<Janet> you know, even putting yeah! cinnamon sticks! stick a ribbon on 'em to hang, and those smell great too

<Lynn> Got temporarily bumped off. Whay are you carving?

<deb> apple heads

<AmyLPR> we had one of those--the cat loved to lick it

<Janet> Lynn, apples.

<Lynn> Thanks. :)

<deb> any questions?

<Janet> carve faces in apples, hang 'em in the tree. they dry out and are shrunken heads. and smell good too

<phil> yes sber it is here

<sber> oh good, thanks phil

<deb> and we have a surprise tonight

<Janet> anybody else have an ornament to share?

<Janet> surprise??

<deb> Phil is going to give away a fitit CD

<sber> surprise!!! gimmie

Janet plays straight man, she knows what it is.

<deb> AND

<Janet> YAY!!!

<deb> I have a trivia question!!

<GailWink> yippeee!

<cheri> I made star ornaments out of ALluminum sheets

<cak> Wonderful!

<deb> have to be here to win

<Janet> how did you do that, Cheri?

<deb> everyboyd here

<Janet> I'm here!

<deb> janet you are always here

<cheri> I cut the star out, then crimped the points fo the star with a crimper

<sber> here!

<AmyLPR> ok

<Janet> LOL

<cheri> it came out really pretty

<AmyLPR> here

<Nansea> here!

<Lynn> Cool!

<sber> cheri sounds neat

<Janet> oh kewl, Cheri. Bet those looked great.

<StampOwl> soounds cool

<brenda> here

<cheri> It was the heavy aluminum

<deb> cheri sounds cute

<RubberKin> here

<deb> OK

<cheri> cheap too

<deb> WHO

<Lynn> here

<StampOwl> we have been making ornaments from those clear balls that come in 2 halves down under

<deb> DID

<neetz> Did you just crimp the points or the whole star?

<deb> PRESDIENT

<deb> FORD

<deb> SAY HE WAS

<deb> DANCING WITH

<cheri> just the points, but I also tried whole star and it looked great too

<deb> WHEN THE BAND STRUCK INTO THE SONG

<deb> THE LADY IS A TRAMP

<Lory> queen elizabeth

<Lynn> Thanks!

<deb> ?

<StampOwl> no fair - an Aussie can't answer that LOL

<deb> LOL

<Janet> LOL

<AmyLPR> his daughter

<Nansea> marilyn monroe

<GailWink> queen elizabeth

<Janet> Lory is sharp tonight.

<cindyc> his wife

<AmyLPR> his wife

<RubberKin> His wife

<GailWink> heard that on Tv today

<Janet> (and quick)

<Sandy> Elizabeth Taylor

<sber> his wife

<deb> YES QUEEN OF ELIZABETH WAS IT

<deb> LORY YOU WON

<Lory> too much cnn

<Lory> cool

<Janet> LOL

<deb> I hear that and thought it was hilarious

<deb> heard

<cak> (but it paid off Lory!)

<deb> Lory - email Phil

<Janet> Okay, Frances, how about a bead bag for a second prize?

<StampOwl> thanks Janet

<deb> oh cool

<Lory> where>>>

<RubberKin> gotta run see you all later and thanks for all the great ideas :)

<Janet> some round ones you can hang on your wire tree.

<SparkEEEE> nixon

<Janet> LOL

<StampOwl> thank you

<Nansea> does anyone know if there is an iridecent (sp) paint that would work w/ those glass ball ornamanets?

<brenda> elvis

<phil> send me an email with your mailing address and I'll get a Fit-It Vol 1 in the mail Monday

<deb> phil - can you post your email one more time

<StampOwl> all these President questions go right over my head LOL

<cindyc> you know how you can make candle pomanders in cookie molds? I wonder if we could set a stamp into some pored and scented wax and get an imprint from it as well? put it inside a tupperware type container for the outer shape? what ya think?

<Francie> thanks for the ideas! Gotta go!

<Lory> how bout a vol 2 got a 1

<cak> The gold glass paint is fairly irridescent, isn't it?

<phil> phil@red-castle.com

<Janet> it is

<Lory> thanks!!!!

<Nansea> how about translucent?

<CrowFAKF> thanks for the class, janet, couldn't take part but saved it for later!

<CrowFAKF> see you all later, gotta run

<Nansea> bye bye crow

<phil> okay then it will be a few days

<sber> nite all!

<AmyLPR> try a candy cane out of tri-beads

<Nansea> nite sber

<deb> THANKS for coming

<deb> thanks janet

<Janet> OKAY... FOR A BEAD GRAB BAG WITH A QUESTION FRANCES MIGHT KNOW (LOOK AT THE GRAB BAGS AT WWW.WEEBEDAZZLED.COM)...

<cindyc> liquid shimmer would prob. work

<sber> thanks Janet and Deb! great class and lots of fun

<Janet> HOW MANY POUNDS IN A STONE?

<cak> All the glass paints are made to be translucent, but I'm sure there are others out there--

<SparkEEEE> 14

<sber> 14

<neetz> 12

<AmyLPR> 8

<cheri> 16

<deb> 15

<Lynn> 20

<StampOwl> 14

<Nansea> 12

<cindyc> 18

<deb> 9

<deb> 11

<Janet> LOL. SPARKEEEE YOU ARE QUICK!!!

<StampOwl> and I am metric downhere LOL

<Lory> how big is the stone??

<Janet> LOL LORY

<Nansea> ok cak i didn't know that...never worked w/ the glass paints... thx!

<deb> oops I've got halos on my butt

<cheri> lol

<Janet> SPARKEEEE I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I MAILED YOUR OTHER PRIZE YESTERDAY, BUT I KNOW I STILL HAVE YOUR ADDRESS

<StampOwl> sounds like a good place for it LOL

<sber> roflmbo deb!

<deb> lol

<cak> (check with Janet on the translucency to be sure, but the ones I did dried translucent--very pretty)

<Lynn> Wrong end!

<Janet> YOUR HALO SLIPPED AGAIN?

<deb> don't forget Tuesday night class

<StampOwl> roflmao

<deb> yes my halo slipped

<deb> LOL

<cak> lol

<Janet> GLASS PAINT DRIES REALLY TRANSLUCENT

<Nansea> ok i was thinking about the lights on the Christmas tree shining through the ornamnets cak...

<sber> nitey nite!

<Janet> TUESDAY CLASS! YAY! AT 10 P.M. IN #CRAFTCLASS ROOM. THAT'S TUESDAY

<deb> it must hae been on the floor when I sat down to gather up all those million beads

<rubbermous> Hello

<Janet> (AND EASTERN TIME)

<rubbermous> just stobbed by to say hello then off to bed

<Lynn> Bye ...always informative!

<cak> Ooooooo, lovely! I think the glass paints might be your best bet.

<Janet> HELLO RHONDA

<StampOwl> is that the same time as this class was Janet - so I can get my times right

<cheri> what is Tuesday's craft

<deb> bye all

<Janet> yES, SAME TIME AS THIS CLASS

<deb> a wire bracelet I accidentally made

<StampOwl> thanks

<Janet> (and I guess tht's Wednesday for you)

<deb> please come and bring a new stamper with you

<rubbermous> see ya at trivia on mon...I had a long day today and tomorrow am working on Christmas cards

<Lory> Thanks Phil and deb for asking a good ??? Nite all

<deb> yw

<Janet> oh yes! trivia on Monday!

<sparkle> shoot, I turned this on and forgot I was here.

<sparkle> Hi everyone!

<rubbermous> bye teach

<deb> Thanks so much Phil

<deb> yes sparkle

<deb> we were hinting for a clay special!!!

<sparkle> ROFL!

<Janet> Gee, Sparkle. I think that means you have to give us a special on polymer clay for our ornaments

<deb> we NEEEEEEEEDED it

<Nansea> we tried to tell people what the clay store was in the mall but we couldn't remember the name or anything!

<sparkle> rofl!

<Nansea> <G>

<deb> I asked if there was any clay store in the mall

<rubbermous> if it is clay I can't leave

<sparkle> y'all are pathetic

<deb> and you didn't answer

<deb> lol

<rubbermous> oh no...

<deb> LOL

<deb> yes we are

deb proudly adjusts her halo

<sparkle> LOL

<Janet> we are pathetic and very good at it, too

<deb> hey you got some free advertisement

Nansea is a pathetic little clay-head

sparkle left her halo off the side of the queen mary so she could shop.

<Janet> even if we didn't remember the name<g>

<deb> well my halo I found on the butt of my jammies

<StampOwl> enjoyed the class deb and Janet

<deb> thanks tampowl

<Janet> it's great to see you. we've been missing you

<StampOwl> and thanks Phil for the special on fitit

<sparkle> deb, guess that means you had your head...

<SparkEEEE> *&^%$modem!

<sparkle> never mind

<Janet> LOL

<neetz> LOVED the class!

<deb> LOL

<Nansea> LOL sparkle

<StampOwl> yes just hard getting here on midday Sundays

<deb> no I sat on the floor

<SparkEEEE> So, how many pounds in a stone?

<deb> to pick up a zillion beads that carey knocked off

<deb> and I guess there was a little piece of halos on the floor

<sparkle> LOL..is carey still alive?

<deb> cause now it's on me BUTT

<Nansea> i don't know SparkEEEE......

<Nansea> i don't remember lol

<StampOwl> the question should be how many kilos LOL

<Janet> Thanks. I love Deb's ornament ideas. And all the rest of them. I want to try some of these

<deb> barely

<cak> (I thik the answer is 14 lbs/stone)

<Janet> 14 and you won, SparkEEEE

<deb> deedee came in just before class and told me about the velvet boxes

<deb> and I couldn't believe it fit in so well with Phil's boxes!

<deb> how cool

<cindyc> what is the url for the velvet boxes?

<cindyc> i came in late too.

<deb> http://www.hgtv.com/HGTV/episode/0,1101,CRHO_episode_12103,FF.html

<deb> HGTV ran a show this week on velvet ornaments

<cindyc> oh are these the ones that the hot pot. queen did?

<deb> and phils fit-it patterns would work great

<cindyc> miss mary?

<deb> no

<deb> oh yes

<deb> but the hot pot queen is Suze

<cindyc> ok, i saw that...

<deb> OH

<cindyc> hot potatoe...

<deb> LOL oh yues

<deb> yes

<deb> lol

<deb> was thinking hot pot

<cindyc> understandable! †

<deb> yes you are right - was miss mary

<phil> Everyone is welcome I was gone for a minute looking for something to eat

<cindyc> great idea about the fit it boxes!

<deb> enchy said her hubby is making her a velvet cape

<cak> Has anyone tried drawing a shape (like a snowflake) with hot glue and then putting silver or gold leaf on it when cool?

<deb> err having it made

<deb> ok phil

<cindyc> how would it stick when cool?

<deb> no but i bet it would work

<cindyc> maybe before it gets completely cool

<deb> might have to work fast though

<deb> right cindy

<cindyc> yeah

<deb> might have to be still warm

<cak> That's why I was asking. I was presumng it stays slightly tacky even when cool.

<phil> use a glue pen and gold foil workes

<deb> cause it's not tacky when its cold

<cak> gotcha--makes more sense that way

<deb> well - I need to go

<deb> my back is killing me

<phil> I have lots of gold foil

<cindyc> bye deb..... good job

<deb> thanks cindyc

<Janet> Deb, thanks for class. This was fun as ever.

<cheri> have a good night deb, thanks for the class

<deb> lol

<cak> Thanks deb--lots of fun stuff!

<deb> thanks janet - that was fun as ever!!

<Janet> LOL

<brenda> bye deb

<Janet> I can't wait for Tuesday, too!

<cheri> I need to go to, thanks everyone for the great ideas, and thanks Phil for the special!

<deb> I have to take it apart ot try to get it scanned

<phil> your welcome

<cindyc> so jewelry on tues huh?

<deb> yep bracelet

<Janet> Yep.

<cindyc> cool....

<deb> made by accident

<deb> lol

<deb> bye all

<cindyc> best designs happen that way... grin

<cak> Night deb

<cindyc> bye

<StampOwl> night all

<phil> Janet I think this was a popular topic

<cindyc> night stampowl

<cak> Night/afternoon Stampowl!

<Janet> i think so

<Janet> take care, Frances

<sparkle> I've got to skeedaddle to bed too...

<StampOwl> thanks Janet - will try and drop in again soon

<Janet> great!

<sparkle> y'all behave yourselves tomorrow

<Nansea> hi meridee

<phil> hi

<meridee> howdy!

<Janet> I need to give teh cat some attention. he's crawling up my back. i don't know why he's so neeeeedy today

<Janet> howdy, meridee

<meridee> hi y'all

<cak> (He's a cat)

<cak> (he don't need no steeenkin' reasons)

<Janet> lol

<Janet> (i hate it when he uses me as a springboard too)

<cak> (lol--with claws I bet)

<Janet> of course

<Janet> now he's screaming at me fom the middle of the room, I guess that means it's bedtime.

<Janet> see y'all tomorrow.

<cak> I should probably get going too--I just read a short article about sleep deprivation having an effect on your blood glucose and insulin levels!

<Janet> ut oh and yes it does

<Janet> see ya tomorrow evening

<cak> Night!

<cak> And Night to you all--

<GailWink> I am heading out too! See ya soon!

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