<Janet> Yes, I was alone so I went searching for people.

<Mar> is this for the class?

<Janet> Evey, you did make it, yay!

<Janet> This is the class.

<Janet> YAY!

<MaggieB> oh my

<MaggieB> hi all

<evey71> yes I'm getting good at this time thing. LOL :}

<EB> ty

<MaggieB> my computer wouldnt reboot

<cak> Hey Janet! Could you post the url again?

<MaggieB> took forevvver

<MaggieB> thought i would miss class

<evey71> but I will be away for 5 mins to pick up s from kindy ok. But staying in class

<MaggieB> yay i am here

<Janet> http://www.cyberstampers.com/html.html is the supply list

<brenda> i made it

<Janet> but there's nothing on there.

<MaggieB> anyone here???

<cak> Yep maggie! You may need to reboot

<cak> thanks janet

<EB> supply lst??

<Janet> Maggie, are you seeing us now?

<Janet> All you need for this class tonight is an ascii text editor.

<RubberRabb> well, I know for about four weeks all we need is US.

<Janet> like windows notepad

<RubberRabb> and our computers

<EB> oh i have everything

<Froggie> Hi

<RubberRabb> with usually come with windows notepad

<RubberRabb> Hi Froggie

<Froggie> I'm here to learn

<Janet> Charlotte, what's the ascii editor that comes on a Mac?

RubberRabbit doesn't know applestuff

<cak> simpletext

<Janet> What I need all of you to do is go ahead and get your text editor open and arranged so you can see it and see this class at the same time.

<cak> (sorry was trying to keep the cat off the keybvoard

<Janet> Okay. notepad or simpletext

<Froggie> I will be working with notepad

<Lineka> oops

<Janet> We are starting at the VERY beginning heree.

<Janet> no assumed knowledge.

<Janet> (so if you know anything, you'll be bored initially)

<RubberRabb> ok, got my notepad and this window open side by each

<Janet> But we should move fairly quickly, or as quickly as you all are willing to go

<Janet> Okay!

<Mar> ok

<RubberRabb> and I have dh right over my shoulder in case I need help finding anything

<Janet> Okay!

<Froggie> Do I have to be able to see both screens at once?

<RubberRabb> (he's playing his online game)

<Janet> is everybody ready?

<RubberRabb> I think so..

<brenda> yes

<Janet> Froggie, it would be helpful, but if you can switch back and forth, you should be fine.

<cak> I think so!

<Lineka> yes

<RubberRabb> oops Froggie just left

<Janet> I think it would be easiest if you could see both.

<Janet> somebody, lock the doors!

<Janet> they're escaping!!!

<RubberRabb> yes; just rearranged the windows..

<AliciaG> hello

<Janet> Are many of you in through the web page gateway?

brenda glues everyone to seat

<RubberRabb> they overlap a bit, but it will do

<RubberRabb> me

<Mar> me

<Stampnbev> I keep getting disconnected!

<brenda> not me

<RubberRabb> I always come in through the webpage gateway

<Janet> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO OPEN TWO BROWSER WINDOWS, EVENTUALLY HERE YOU'LL WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE WRITING IN YOUR WEB BROWSER.

<RubberRabb> mirc has me flummoxed

<RubberRabb> I can open two windows

<Janet> AND i KNOW THAT MOST ISPS THAT'S AN EASY DEAL, BUT ONE OF THE VERSIONS OF AOL WILL KNOCK YOU OUT OF HERE IF YOU TRY TO OPEN ANOTHER FILE, EVEN IN ANOTHER WEB BROWSER

<RubberRabb> that's why they call it aoHELL

<Froggie> LOL

<Janet> OKAY. SO YOU DON'T NEED IT RIGHT YET, BUT SOON IN THIS CLASS (IN 20 MINUTES OR SO) YOU'LL ALSO WANT A WEB BROWSER OPEN

<Lineka> lol

<RubberRabb> hang on, let me open another window..

<Janet> BUT FOR NOW, JUST THIS CHAT WINDOW AND YOUR TEXT EDITOR, WHERE YOU CAN SEE BOTH.

<Janet> LIQUID REFRESHMENT WHERE YOU CAN REACH IT AND YOU'RE ALL SET TO START WRITING A WEB PAGE!

<EB> oh i better get a drink

<EB> brb

<RubberRabb> struggled valiantly with the painted shut sill, but got it open

<Lineka> ready

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> ALL A WEB PAGE IS, IS A PLAIN OLD TEXT FIEL.

<Janet> FILE

<Janet> NO MAGIC, NO PROGRAMMING. JUST TEXT.

<RubberRabb> yeek, I better not get a drink--I need my witlessness about me

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> SO WE'RE GOING TO WRITE ONE TONIGHT.

<Janet> YOUR CONCEPT FOR TONIGHT IS BOXES.

<paperpushe> cool!

<Janet> REMEMBER. BOXES.

<cak> (presents!)

<Janet> YES!

<Janet> LOL

<RubberRabb> boxes.. like my birthday presents!!

<RubberRabb> (singing happily to herself)

<paperpushe> stuff to open...yeah!

<Janet> EVERYTHING YOU DO IN A WEB PAGE FILE, IT WILL OPEN AND CLOSE. SO IN YOUR TEXT EDITOR (WHICH I'M GOING TO START CALLING NOTEPAD FOR SHORT, OKAY?)...

<Janet> TYPE THIS...

<Janet> <HTML> </HTML>

<Janet> THAT'S YOUR FIRST BOX

<Janet> AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS IN UPPER CASE OR LOWER CASE

<Kriztina> is there a space > <or no space between?

<Janet> AS YOU START PUTTING IMAGE FILES IN, THAT MATTERS, BUT HTML COMMANDS (ALWAYS IN <BRACKETS> ) IT DOESN'T MATTER

<Janet> KRIZ, THAT DOESN'T MATTER EITHER.

<paperpushe> Sorry, I came in late...is it ok to use word for a text editor?

<Janet> BECAUSE THE <HTML></HTML> BOX IS OUR FIRST BIG BOX, EVERYTHING WE DO IS GOING TO GO IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO COMMANDS

<Janet> (SEE? BOXED)

<Kriztina> how bout caps or not caps?

<Janet> CAPS OR NOT CAPS DOESN'T MATTER

<cak> (as long as you savei it as a text file, it should be OK paperpusher)

<paperpushe> thanks, cak

<Janet> LINE SPACING DOESN'T MATTER

<Janet> DOES EVERYBODY HAVE <HTML> </HTML> TYPED NOW?

<EB> yes

<Froggie> yes

<Lineka> yes

<Mar> YES

<Janet> KEWL.

<Kriztina> yes

<paperpushe> yup!

<EB> with a space?

<cak> yes

<RubberRabb> y

<Janet> LET'S PUT A BODY IN THERE.

<brenda> yes

<MaggieB> yes

<Froggie> whose?

<EB> ME

<Janet> SPACE DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE NOW GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOURSELF A COUPLE OF BLANK LINES IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO COMMANDS

<paperpushe> sounds like the beginning of a mystery novel

EB jumps in the html box

<cak> lol

<EB> k

<Janet> AND INBETWEEN THOSE TWO TYPE <BODY> AND </BODY>

<Froggie> did it

<Janet> NOTE THIS SUB CONCEPT... ALMOST ALL OF THE HTML COMMANDS GET TURNED OFF WITH /COMMAND

<EB> i see the similarity

<EB> lol

<Kriztina> do we type AND as well or was that for effect?

<Janet> SO WHAT YOU'VE GOT NOW IS TURNING ON THE COMMAND THAT SAYS "HEY, THIS IS GONNA BE AN HTML DOCUMENT" THEN "THIS IS THE BODY" THEN "THIS BODY IS OVER" THEN "YOU CAN STOP READING THIS AS HTML NOW"

<Janet> THAT'S JUST FOR EFFECT.

<Janet> WHAT YOU'LL HAVE NOW IS <HTML><BODY></BODY></HTML>

<Janet> (WITH SOME LINE SPACES)

<Kriztina> ok so we are making a sandwich

<Janet> YES!

<EB> right

<paperpushe> sounds logical to me

<Kriztina> and we are working towards the middle i take it

<Janet> OR THINKING ABOUT PUTTING BOXES INSIDE OF BOXES

<evey71> oh I am catching up-phew-had to pick up baby. Now ai have notepad up -sorry

<EB> ohhhh /me is getting this

<Janet> YAY EB!

<Janet> NOW.... LET'S PUT SOMETHING INSIDE THAT BODY.

<EB> lol

<Janet> TYPE ANYTHING. ANYTHING AT ALL.

<evey71> I.m benind after picking baby up. I have note pad up now

<Janet> BETWEEN THE <BODY> AND THE </BODY> TAGS

<MaggieB> body means the body of the message?

<Janet> EVEY, TYPE <HTML> <BODY> (ANYTHING YOU WANT HERE) </BODY></HTML>

<Janet> THESE CAN BE ON DIFFERENT LINES IF YOU WANT

<Lineka> yep

<Janet> BUT YOU MUST OPEN AND CLOSE YOUR TAGS IN ORDER

<paperpushe> so far, so good!

<Froggie> yep

<Janet> TYPING <HTML><BODY> STUFF </HTML></BODY> WON'T WORK

<EB> so a tag is??

<Janet> THE COMMAND IN THE BRACKETS IS ALSO CALLED A TAG

<Janet> I'M GOING TO CALL IT A TAG BECAUSE TAG IS SHORTER TO TYPE THAN COMMAND

<Kriztina> or the meat of the sandwich

<paperpushe> cause the body is after the </html> >?

<Janet> SO MAKE UP YOUR OWN MEAT

<EB> okie dokie

<Janet> HTML IS THE BIG BOX. BODY IS ALL THE WAY CONTAINED INSIDE THE HTML BOX

<Froggie> Got it

<paperpushe> hey, but I'm a vegetarian...

<EB> oh!

<Froggie> amazing

<Janet> AFTER YOU HAVE THAT DONE, SAVE THAT FILE (SOMEWHERE YOU CAN FIND IT) AS ANY NAME YOU WANT.HTML

<EB> i didn't see it wrong at first <G>

<Janet> LIKE FROGGIE.HTML

<Janet> OR MAGGIE.HTML

<EB> k

<Froggie> ok, I think I savec it!

<Janet> WORD WILL TRY TO MESS WITH YOU SOMETIMES, I END UP WITH FILES NAMED INDEX.HTML.TXT WHEN I USE WORD AND SAVE AS TEXT.

<MaggieB> k

<Janet> IF WORD DOES THAT TO YOU, EVEY, JUST RENAME THE FILE (RIGHT CLICK ON IT AND PICK RENAME) AND HAVE NAME.HTML

<Kriztina> hey it worked i saw it on ie

<Janet> OKAY...

<cak> oops! I forgot about that (not a big Windows fan)

<Janet> LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE IT SAVED

<MaggieB> saved

<Lineka> ok

<brenda> janet i know i am slow

<Janet> OKAY, NOW WITH YOUR WEB BROWSER? OPEN IT. TYPE IN THE WHOLE PATH (IN WINDOWS YOU CAN CLICK ON IT)

<brenda> sorry but have a question

<Janet> YES, BRENDA?

<brenda> <html><body> then stuff?

<Janet> REPORT IN WHEN YOU CAN SEE THE PAGE YOU ALREADY LEARNED HOW TO MAKE.

<Kriztina> i saw it

<Janet> YEP, BRENDA. THEN AFTER YOUR STUFF CLOSE THOSE TAGS WITH </BODY> </HTML>

<Mar> ok, i got kicked out after save as .htm . what next??

<Janet> (THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR PAGES. i CAN TELL. LOL)

<cak> lol

<Janet> LOOK AT WHAT YOU SAVED, MAR

<EB> ack!! i see it!!

<brenda> thanks

<Janet> EB WROTE A PAGE!

<EB> go eb, go eb

<EB> this is fun

<MaggieB> hey i misspelled

<Janet> SUCCESS AFTER ONLY 22 MINUTES!!

<evey71> uMMM i HAVE TYPED TEXT DO i SAVE IT NOW

<MaggieB> and it came up misspelled

<Janet> YES, EVEY, SAVE IT AS TEXT. THEN LOOK AT IT IN YOUR WEB BROWSER.

<MaggieB> worked

<Janet> FROGGIE, DID YOU SEE YOUR PAGE?

<Froggie> No I got booted

<EB> i just can't get how it did that

<paperpushe> I have my file saved, and I've opened it, but now I have to go to my browser? sorry...slow

<Janet> ARE WE ALL PUMPED WE ALREADY WROTE A PAGE?

<Froggie> I missed the step

<EB> YESSSSSs

<Janet> PAPERPUSHER, OPEN IT IN YOUR BROWSER

<Janet> FROGGIE, OPEN THAT FILE IN YOUR BROWSER

<MaggieB> i just double clicked on the file in windows explorer and had it open

<Froggie> ok

<Lineka> I'm lost, sorry

<MaggieB> it will open in browser

<EB> i put mine on my desktop so you can see it

<Janet> LIKE IF YOU PUT IT ON YOUR DESKTOP, YOUR WHOLE PATH WHERE YOU'D USUALLY TYPE IN THE URL WOULD BE C:\WINDOWS\DESKTOP\MYFILE.HTML

<Mar> i do not understand how to open in browser, sorry

<Janet> LINEKA, DID YOU WRITE YOUR FILE?

<paperpushe> sorry, no results were found ;-(

<RubberRabb> shoot--lagged and kicked off

<RubberRabb> I need help!

<Janet> CAN YOU FIND IT IN WINDOWS EXPLORER AND CLICK ON IT?

<RubberRabb> I got left out from html; body stuff /body /html

<Lineka> hold on

<Janet> IF YOU NAMED IT SOMETHING.HTML THEN CLICKING ON IT WILL OPEN IT IN THE WEB BROWSER

<RubberRabb> now what am I supposed to do?

<brenda> neato

<Janet> RR TYPE <HTML><BODY> TYPE STUFF HERE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TYPE </BODY></HTML>

<Janet> THEN SAVE THE FILE AS WHATEVERYOUWANTTONAMEIT.HTML

<Janet> THEN LOOK AT IT WITH YOUR WEB BROWSER

<RubberRabb> ok

<Janet> YOU CAN TYPE IN THE WHOLE PATH TO YOUR FILE TO SEE IT. OR YOU CAN FIND IT IN WINDOWS EXPLORER AND CLICK ON IT

<Froggie> I did it!!!!!

<Froggie> whhoooooo Hoooooo

<evey71> mine came up looking like the commands I wrote in the first place is that correct? groan

<brenda> i did it too

<brenda> yippee

<paperpushe> Ok, I'm lost...I have the file saved...then I go to put it in the browser?

<Janet> (LATER TONIGHT I WILL PUT ALL OF THIS ON A PAGE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MEMORIZING IT YET, YOU'LL HAVE CLASS NOTES TO REFER TO)

<Janet> YES, PAPERPUSHER, WHERE DID YOU SAVE IT TO?

<brenda> ty janet

<Froggie> Thank god

<MaggieB> great janet will yo do tht each week?

<EBhtmling> ty Janet

<Janet> EVEY, NO, WORD MESSED WITH YOU.

<Stampnbev> appreciate that, Janet

<RubberRabb> I'm lost too--got my file saved, but how do I look at it with my browser?

<Janet> USE NOTEPAD

<Froggie> I need to learn this quick and get my mall store up!

<CheriS> so if I missed this one, I can pick up with it next week?

<MaggieB> saved at text file evey

<Janet> AND I WILL DO THE CLASS NOTES AFTER CLASS UP EVERY WEEK

<paperpushe> it's in "my documents"

<Janet> YEP, CHERI YOU CAN

<RubberRabb> oh, hang on I think I found it..

<cak> (I'm gonna stop giving advise--sorry evey and Janet)

<MaggieB> rename your file evey to .html

<CheriS> great, thanks Janet

Lineka still looking

<Janet> LOL BUT CAK, I USE WORD TO WRITE HTML. BUT YOU CAN'T "SAVE AS HTML" BECAUSE WORD WILL SAVE IT, COMMANDS AND ALL.

<RubberRabb> hey I got to look at it

<RubberRabb> even my typos!

<Janet> YAY RUBBER RABBIT!

<Janet> OKAY!

<evey71> thanks wil try...

<Froggie> Mine's not fancy, but it's there

<Janet> WANT TO FANCY IT UP SOME?

<Lineka> I found it in my files

<Froggie> yes

<RubberRabb> 'stuff I wannnt tooo type'

<brenda> sure

<RubberRabb> LOL

<Kriztina> wooo color maybe janet?

<cindyc> is there an url with directions maybe?????

<Lineka> wasn't it suppose to be in my web browser?

<Janet> COLOR I THINK NEXT WEEK, BUT I HAVE HEADINGS FOR NOW. SO YOU CAN MAKE YOUR TYPE BIG OR LITTLE

<cak> Is it displaying in our browser Lineka?

<Janet> AND PUT IN LINE BREAKS!

<Janet> CINDY, I'LL PUT UP THESE CLASS NOTES AFTER THE NEXT CLASS, THEY'LL BE THERE TOMORROW.

<RubberRabb> line breaks?!

<paperpushe> ok, I got it to open in my browser, but it looks identical to the work doc.

<RubberRabb> what kind of line breaks?

<cindyc> thanks... i hate my isp....

<Mar> ok, got my page, but got kicked out. went to windows explorer and clicked on the .html and see the words from the body

<Cheri> ty brenda

<brenda> it is supposed to paper pusher

<Janet> I THINK WORKS AND WORD IS MESSING WITH YOU ALL, JUST USE NOTEPAD FOR NOW AND I'LL WORK WITH BOTH THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK TO SEE HOW TO TELL YOU HOW TO FOOL THESE PROGRAMS

<Janet> THEY'RE BEING TOO HELPFUL FOR YOU.

<Janet> OKAY!

<EBhtmling> lol

<Janet> LINE BREAKS!

<brenda> yes

<paperpushe> Then I think I found a way to do it..yeah

<RubberRabb> I'm just using notepad

EBhtmling too

<Mar> i used notepad

<Janet> NOW THAT I HAVE YOU ALL BELIEVING THAT EVERY <TAG> MUST HAVE AN EQUAL </TAG> ...

<RubberRabb> yees

<EBhtmling> right

<Janet> I'LL TEACH YOU LINE BREAKS. THEY DON'T HAVE A CLOSING TAG

<EBhtmling> oh great

<EBhtmling> LOL

<Janet> LOL

<RubberRabb> you're gonna tell me that there's an exception, right?

<brenda> uh oh

<RubberRabb> sheesh

<Janet> AN EXCEPTION ALREADY!

<EBhtmling> i before e?

<brenda> knew it was too easy

<RubberRabb> except if it's a line break

<Janet> I BEFORE E EXCEPT AFTER ALL SORTS OF EXCEPTIONS.<G>

<RubberRabb> or something else she'll spring on us later.

<EBhtmling> lol

<Janet> SO SAY YOU WANT TO MAKE TWO PARAGRAPHS OUT OF YOUR STUFF YOU TYPED IN THERE?

<Janet> (GUARANTEED, RR)

<EBhtmling> sure

<RubberRabb> or one well spelled sentence! LOL

<Janet> TO END A PARAGRAPH AND START A NEW ONE THE COMMAND IS <P>

<RubberRabb> er, tag?

<Kriztina> so just pick a spot in the sentence to insert the <P>?

<paperpushe> so that's before the last tag?

<Janet> SO PICK A SPOT AND PUT A NEW PARAGRAPH IN THERE

<Janet> YEP

<evey71> I'm having probs with notepad and opening in explorer as well cant work out why. But I'l be patient

<Janet> SO YOUR DOCUMENT WILL NOW LOOK LIKE...

<RubberRabb> this works like a force page in a word processor then?

<Janet> <HTML><BODY>THIS IS MY FIRST SENTENCE<P>THIS IS MY SECOND SENTENCE<P></BODY></HTML>

<paperpushe> Wow, I'm there!

<MaggieB> janet why the 2nd <P>?

<Froggie> ok, then save again?

<Janet> (WITH MAYBE ALL OF THOSE ON DIFFERENT LINES. DIFFERENT LINES HELPS TO SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND IT DOESN'T MAKE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE HOW YOU DO IT.

<Janet> JUST BECAUSE I'M ANAL, MAGGIE. I DIDN'T NEED IT.

<RubberRabb> did it--and it worked

<MaggieB> i didn't think so...

<EBhtmling> 2 p's??

<Janet> I DIDN'T NEED THE SECOND ONE.

<MaggieB> messing with my head janet

<Janet> LOL

<RubberRabb> why did I need two p's (only ever need to p once?)

<EBhtmling> oh i caught up lol

<Froggie> Worked! very cool Janet

<EBhtmling> could you do the </P> also?

<RubberRabb> I now have two lines

EBhtmling is anal too

<Janet> NOW SUPPOSE YOU DIDN'T REALLY WANT A NEW PARAGRAH... YOU JUST WANTED THE SENTENCE TO SPLIT AT A CERTAIN SPOT...

<Lineka> got it, but I'm still not seeing it on my web browser

<Janet> EB, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING. I'LL GET TO THAT NEXT

<EBhtmling> k

Lineka will work on that later

<RubberRabb> refresh

EBhtmling is patient

<Janet> <HTML><BODY>THIS IS MY FIRST SENTENCE<P>THIS IS MY SECOND<BR>SENTENCE</BODY></HTML>

<Janet> JUST A LINE BREAK IS <BR>

<Janet> A NEW PARAGRAPH IS A <P>

<EBhtmling> it did a double space on mine ???

<RubberRabb> you have to save over your first notepad thing, and refresh your browser to see the new file

<Janet> THE <P> WILL DO A DOUBLE SPACE

<Janet> THE <BR> WILL DO A SINGLE SPACE

<EBhtmling> wow!!!

<Kriztina> ok did both, my sentence was skimpy to start

<Janet> THANKS, RR. YES, RESAVE YOUR FILE, THEN REFRESH YOUR BROWSER

<RubberRabb> got it

<RubberRabb> just keep hitting 'save

<EBhtmling> too kewl

<cak> (always a good habit anyway)

<RubberRabb> and then go to the browser window and hit refresh

<RubberRabb> and it goes

<RubberRabb> boom

<RubberRabb> line break

<Janet> THIS IS HOW I WRITE WEB PAGES. NOTEPAD OPEN, BROWSER OPEN. WRITE A BIT, SAVE IT, LOOK AT IT.

<Janet> SEE THE MISTAKES, FIX THE MISTAKES, SAVE AGAIN, REFRESH THE BROWSER.

<RubberRabb> okie dokie

<Janet> SEE NEW MISTAKES, FIX THEM, SAVE AGAIN, REFRESH THE BROWSER.

<Froggie> It works for me, I am amazed.

<Janet> ARE YOU ALL PUMPED??

<Janet> I AM!

<RubberRabb> see more mistakes, etc

<EBhtmling> this is too easy (so far)

<RubberRabb> yep--this is kewl

<Mar> yes i get it so far

<Janet> EB, IT REALLY DOESN'T GET ANY HARDER.

<Lineka> still trying to find it in my browser

<Froggie> I bet it does

<Janet> NOW LET'S PUT A NEW BOX ON TOP OF THE BODY BOX...

<EBhtmling> oh i am sure i could stump myself <G>

<RubberRabb> (oh sure--so how do they make the bunny wiggle it's eyebrows?)

<Janet> THE HEADING BOX...

<Froggie> ??

<RubberRabb> huh

<Janet> SO WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR PAGE, INSTEAD OF SAYING UNTITLED, IT WILL HAVE A NAME...

<Froggie> ohhh

<Janet> TO PUT A HEADING IN YOUR PAGE...

<RubberRabb> oh

<Janet> AFTER <HTML> BUT BEFORE <BODY> TYPE <HEAD></HEAD> ...

<RubberRabb> we're back in the notepad?

<Janet> THEN IN BETWEEN THE TWO HEAD TAGS TYPE THIS...

<Janet> <TITLE>MY NEW EXTRAORDINARY HOME PAGE</TITLE>

<Janet> SO YOU'LL HAVE AS A TOTAL FILE...

<Janet> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>MY NEW EXTRAORDINARY HOME PAGE</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>THIS IS MY FIRST SENTENCE<P>THIS IS MY SECOND<BR>SENTENCE</BODY></HTML>

<Janet> SAVE THAT AND LOOK AT IT

<EBhtmling> janet it didn't like that

<Janet> UT OH

<EBhtmling> oh!

<EBhtmling> body is ahead of head

<Janet> TYPO?

<Mar> I will have to look afterwards so i do not get kicked off again

<EBhtmling> my mistake

<Janet> WHEW

<Janet> MAR, YEAH, JUST KEEP WRITING IN NOTEPAD, THEN LOOK AFTER CLASS AND YOU'LL BE AMAZED AT YOUR LOVELY PAGE

<EBhtmling> OH! it is showing on the blue title

<Janet> ARE YOU IMPRESSED?

<EBhtmling> VERY

<Janet> ME TOO :)

<EBhtmling> i was like i don't see anything

<AmyLPR> hi

<Mar> can you get this info on the free page the internet provider gave you???

<RubberRabb> I don't get a title

<AmyLPR> www.webmonkey.com has an html cheat sheet

<Janet> MAR, YOU CAN. WE HAVE BASIC FTP AS ONE OF THE CLASSES, WHERE WE'LL UPLOAD AND ADMIRE EACH OTHER'S PAGES.

<Janet> THERE ARE A LOT OF CHEAT SHEETS OUT THERE, ALSO SOME REALLY GOOD HTML TUTORIALS

<RubberRabb> I get my text ok, but not the title.

<MaggieB> not working

<Mar> thanks janet

<MaggieB> yes, no title

<Janet> HMMM. IN NETSCAPE IT SHOWS A BIT DIFFERENTLY BUT YOU STILL SHOULD SEE YOUR TITLE AS THE WINDOW NAME

<MaggieB> html tag followed by head tag followed by title tag

<EBhtmling> look up top in the blue title

<Janet> IN THE BAR OF THE WINDOW, IT WON'T BE SHOWING IN YOUR FILE. IT WILL BE SHOWING AS THE TITLE OF THE WINDOW.

<Kriztina> the title isn't gonna be on the web page itself with our sentence right janet? its just the title we'll see say when the window is reduced or on the top of the web page, wayy wayy up top?

<MaggieB> duh!

<MaggieB> it is working

<Janet> YES!

<Janet> IT IS WORKING!

<EBhtmling> rofl, we are all clueless

<Kriztina> i got it to work too

<RubberRabb> I'm using Microsoft internet and it's not doing anything

<Janet> NOW LET'S PUT A HEADLINE ON YOUR PAGE.

<RubberRabb> I get the body, but not the heading or a title in the window

<Janet> RR, IN YOUR BROWSER WINDOW, LOOK UP AT THE VERY TOP OF THE WINDOW, NOT IN YOUR PAGE, BUT ON THE ACTUAL SOFTWARE.

<Janet> UP IN THE COLORED BAR

<RubberRabb> ah, ok--now I know what you are talking about

<RubberRabb> yes, it's there

<RubberRabb> duh

<Janet> YAY!

<Janet> LEA!

<ArtBitch> finally

<RubberRabb> Hi lea

<ArtBitch> hey chicks!

<RubberRabb> wanna do html?

<RubberRabb> we've got browser windows open..

<Janet> RAVEN AND LEA... JUST CUT AND PASTE THIS INTO YOUR NOTEPAD... <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>MY NEW EXTRAORDINARY HOME PAGE</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>THIS IS MY FIRST SENTENCE<P>THIS IS MY SECOND<BR>SENTENCE</BODY></HTML>

<ArtBitch> I'm going to try and stay in here, but I haven't had much luck so far tonight

<ArtBitch> huh?

<raven> Okay

<Janet> AFTER TONIGHT YOU CAN READ THE CLASS NOTES AND SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.

<RubberRabb> just do it..

<ArtBitch> just do what?

<RubberRabb> trust us..

<RubberRabb> LOL

<paperpushe> I'm lost, too...I keep getting page unfound in my browser ;-(

<Janet> BUT CUT AND PASTE THAT FROM <HTML> THROUGH</HTML> INTO NOTEPAD AND THEN SAVE IT AS SOMETHING.HTML

<RubberRabb> mwah ha ha

<Mar> where will the class note be?

<Janet> IT WILL BE ON THE CLASS PAGE, I'LL POST THAT URL TO THE LIST LATER TOO

<beanjean1> hi

<MaggieB> ty janet

<Janet> JEAN, CUT AND PASTE THIS INTO NOTEPAD:

<Janet> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>MY NEW EXTRAORDINARY HOME PAGE</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>THIS IS MY FIRST SENTENCE<P>THIS IS MY SECOND<BR>SENTENCE</BODY></HTML>

<MaggieB> so now we are going to?

<ArtBitch> all over my head....

beanjean1 says, better late than never!

<Janet> SAVE IT.

<Janet> OR RETYPE IT INTO NOTEPAD AND SAVE IT AS A FILE

<EBhtmling> hi beanjean

<Janet> JUST DO IT

<brenda> roflol

<ArtBitch> do you honestly think I have any idea what you are talking about?????

<RubberRabb> Janet must change her name to Nike

<Janet> NOW IN OUR LAST 10 MINUTES I'M GOING TO TEACH YOU HOW TO PUT A HEADLINE INTO YOUR VERY PAGE.

<RubberRabb> cool

<Janet> LEA, I KNOW YOU DON'T. JUST OPEN NOTEPAD.

<beanjean1> hi EB

<RubberRabb> got my notepad ready

<Janet> TYPE THAT SENTENCE WITH ALL THE BRACKET STUFF IN NOTEPAD. SAVE THE FILE.

<beanjean1> how do you open notepad?

<ArtBitch> ignore me...I'm here for the clay! Silly me

<Janet> JUST DO IT

beanjean1 asks a DUMB question

<RubberRabb> it should be in accessories in windows

<RubberRabb> not dumb

<RubberRabb> had to have my dh help me find mine

<RubberRabb> LOL

<beanjean1> ok I'll look

<Janet> OR YOU CAN GO TO START MENU, CHOOSE RUN

<EBhtmling> start> programs> accessories> notepad

<Janet> TYPE IN NOTEPAD.EXE AND IT WILL RUN

<RubberRabb> yep

<beanjean1> thanks I found it

<RubberRabb> that will, but I always forget the exe..LOL

<Janet> NOW HEADLINES WHILE THE LATE ONES ARE BLINDLY DOING WHAT I TOLD HTEM TO DO. LOL

<RubberRabb> ok Jay Leno

<Janet> JUST PUT IN NOTEPAD THIS:

<Janet> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>MY NEW EXTRAORDINARY HOME PAGE</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>THIS IS MY FIRST SENTENCE<P>THIS IS MY SECOND<BR>SENTENCE</BODY></HTML>

<Janet> SAVE IT AS MYPAGE.HTML

<Janet> NOW! HEADLINES!

<evey71> ..

<EBhtmling> lol

<MaggieB> ok janet

<EBhtmling> go janet

<EBhtmling> go janet

<Janet> SAME BOX CONCEPT. RIGHT AFTER <BODY> TYPE <H1>MY HEADLINE</H1> (THIS IS BEFORE YOUR STUFF)

beanjean1 is going to show DD this!!! She'll think *I* did it! NOT

<Janet> SAVE THAT AND LOOK AT IT.

<MaggieB> worked

<Janet> WOO HOO!

<RubberRabb> ooh ooh

<RubberRabb> big ol headline

<Kriztina> cooool

<Janet> <H1> IS THE BIGGEST YOU CAN GO

<EBhtmling> how does it know that?

<RubberRabb> do we have smaller?

<Janet> TRY IT WITH <H2>

<Janet> AND THEN WITH <H3>

<Janet> ETC.

<cindyc> (((((((((((((Audra)))))))))))))))))))

<Froggie> Do the higher #'s make smaller text?

EBhtmling 's jaw drops to the floor

<Janet> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>MY NEW EXTRAORDINARY HOME PAGE</TITLE></HEAD><BODY><H1>MY HEADLINE</H1>THIS IS MY FIRST SENTENCE<P>THIS IS MY SECOND<BR>SENTENCE</BODY></HTML>

<RubberRabb> how little can we go for a headline?

<Janet> HIGHER NUMBERS MAKE SMALLER TEXT

<Froggie> ty

<Janet> DOWN TO 7 I THINK

<Froggie> I did it so far!

<RubberRabb> wow

<StampinTig> hi cindy

<RubberRabb> that would be a pinhead line

<paperpushe> oh my gosh...i think i finally got the first 2 steps!!!!

<Janet> AUDRA, JUST CUT AND PASTE THAT ABOVE INTO NOTEPAD, SAVE IT AND THAT'S AN HTML FILE

<Janet> YAY! YAY!

<StampinTig> ok :-)

<beanjean1> so after you save it how do you see it?

<RubberRabb> Janet, one question before we go on

<Janet> YES?

<Froggie> Whew! I got confused, but I managed it

<EBhtmling> utoh thundering

<RubberRabb> why do we use <> brackets and not () brackets

<Janet> (JEAN, THEN YOU OPEN THAT FILE IN YOUR WEB BROWSER)

<RubberRabb> or does it matter?

<Janet> BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAW OF THE UNIVERSE

<Janet> IT MATTERS

<beanjean1> ohhhhh thanks

<RubberRabb> ok

<Froggie> lol

<RubberRabb> so it does matter

<Janet> IT HAS TO BE <AND >

<brenda> ty janet

<RubberRabb> okie dokie

<Janet> NOW YOUR LAST HTML TRICK...

<RubberRabb> do the other ones do something?

<Janet> A NIFTY HORIZONTAL LINE

<EBhtmling> ROFL

<RubberRabb> ooh ooh

<Janet> (YEAH, THEY'LL SHOW UP IN YOUR TEXT)

<RubberRabb> wants a horizontal line

<RubberRabb> LOL

<EBhtmling> ohhhh

<EBhtmling> ahhhh

<RubberRabb> ah

<RubberRabb> so no <> in our text!!

<Janet> ANYWHERE YOU WANT A HORIZONTAL LINE, WHICH WE IN THE HTML BIZ CALL HORIZONTAL RULES...

<Janet> TYPE IN <HR>

<RubberRabb> and turn it off with </hr>?

<Janet> (WE CALL 'EM HORIZONTAL RULES SO THAT THE HR COMMAND MAKES SENSE)

<Janet> NOPE, THIS IS ANOTHER YOU DON'T TURN OFF

<RubberRabb> ah, just what I need--another exception

<Janet> LOL

<MaggieB> it does it all the way across

<MaggieB> can you shorten the line??

<Janet> PRETTY SLICK, HUH?

<MaggieB> yep

<Froggie> Very awesome

<EBhtmling> yes we need a column on our cheat sheet, must turn off, don't turn off

<MaggieB> always have used composer in past

<Janet> YOU CAN. IN OUR ATTRIBUTES WEEK WE'LL LEARN HOW TO DO THAT

<RubberRabb> I thought it was an undeliner,not a line across--ok

<MaggieB> ty

<RubberRabb> that makes sense

<EBhtmling> great

<Janet> IN SOME WEB BROWSERS, BUT NOT ALL, YOU CAN EVEN SET IT AS A COLOR.

<Froggie> So far I have just used page builders, ya know, drop and drag, lol

<Janet> THIS IS A SOURCE OF GREAT FRUSTRATION, THAT IE AND NETSCAPE DON'T USE THE SAME COMMANDS FOR EVERYTHING...

<RubberRabb> yes, I need to know what kind of software it is we are suppose to use later

<Janet> SO I'M JUST TEACHING YOU THE COMMANDS THAT WORK FOR BOTH OF THEM

<Janet> RR, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING WITH JUST NOTEPAD

<Kriztina> ok in notepad, like my sentence which i did make longer , is going across so i have to use the scroll bar to see near the end , will it just go forever like a crochet chain or what?

<evey71> ...

<Janet> EVEN WITH THE HIGH DOLLAR EXPENSIVE SOFTWARE FOR WEB PAGE AUTHORING? WHAT YOU END UP WITH IS A TEXT FILE JUST LIKE WHAT ALL YOU JUST WROTE

<RubberRabb> your supply list said something else, besides the web page we're supposed to have

<RubberRabb> by week five

<RubberRabb> and I don't have the supply list in front of me

<Janet> KRIZ, LINE BREAKS ARE GOOD FOR THAT SORT OF THING

<cak> (ftp software and web space--)

<Froggie> Hi Raven

<Janet> YES, YOU NEED SOMETHING YOU WANT TO WRITE A WEB PAGE ABOUT.

<Janet> A TOPIC.

<RubberRabb> ftp software--that's what I want to know--what is it??

<Shannon> did i miss all the htmling?

<Janet> WE'LL GET TO THAT ON FTP WEEK

<RubberRabb> Easy--Rabbitlandia

<EBhtmling> yes shannon

<Janet> YOU DID, SHANNON, BUT I'LL PUT UP CLASS NOTES SO YOU CAN CATCH UP FOR NEXT WEEK

<EBhtmling> it was fun

<Janet> NOW YOUR HOMEWORK

<Shannon> tip from shannon...there is nothing cute about cute ftp

<Mar> thanks janet, you were very clear

<MaggieB> ty janet

<Froggie> but don't we need it before FTP week?

<Janet> HOMEWORK FOR NEXT WEEK

<RubberRabb> sigh

<EBhtmling> homework?!?!?!?!?

<Janet> HOMEWORK

<Shannon> oh thank you janet

<Froggie> sigh

<MaggieB> your next class is already in its seats!

<RubberRabb> oh

<Janet> HOMEWORK, AND NO EXCUSES

<RubberRabb> I thought you said HOUSEWORK

<MaggieB> you want to take a break dear?

<Janet> LOL

<RubberRabb> homework is ok

<Lineka> yes mam

<Froggie> ok, ok

<Mar> rather homework than housework

<brenda> homework??????????

<Janet> LET ME GIVE THIS HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT...

<evey71> ONE QUESTION?

<Shannon> homework? oh i dont think so.

<Janet> FOR NEXT WEEK...

<MaggieB> k

<Janet> COME TO CLASS WITH MORE TEXT WRITTEN IN YOUR PAGE...

<Janet> HEADINGS, WHATEVER YOU WANT...

<paperpushe> I got a horizontal line...gosh I feel like I won the lottery!

<Janet> AND COME TO CLASS WITH SOME GRAPHICS FOR YOUR PAGE

<evey71> wHEN i SAVE THE COMMANDS IN NOTEPAD i SAVE THEM IN TEXT RIGHT

<Janet> THESE MUST BE JPG OR GIF

<Kriztina> just fill up notepad with all kinds of junk?

<Janet> YES, EVEY

<Janet> YAY PAPERPUSHER!!

<EBhtmling> oh wow

<Janet> YEP, KRIZ

<cak> (but be sure the file extension is .html--)

<evey71> SAVE THEM TO WHEREVER i WANT-YES

<Janet> AND COME TO CLASS WITH GRAPHICS IN GIF OR JPG FORMAT

<Lineka> lol

<Froggie> I can do that!

<RubberRabb> okie dokie

<Mar> ok, that is doable

<evey71> THEN OPEN THEM AGAIN IN WORDPAD OR EXPLORER

<MaggieB> save file as an .html file

<Janet> AND I'LL POST CLASS NOTES ON THAT PAGE BEFORE MORNING FROM THIS CLASS

<RubberRabb> I'll write the history of rabbitlandia

<Mar> thanks so much janet

<Janet> I NEED TO GET TO MY NEXT CLASS. SEE YOU ALL NEXT WEEK WITH YOUR HOMEWORK DONE!!

<Janet> HAVE FUN!

<Lea> Rabbit, that web site of yours is way cool

<cindyc> on what page janet?

<Janet> THIS IS A LOT OF FUN!

<evey71> NOTEPAD DOESN'T GIVE ME THAT OPTION ONLY ALL FILES AND TEXT!

raven thinks Rabbit is gonna have a VERY long page!

<Froggie> Thanks Janet

<MaggieB> ty janet

<Janet> http://www.cyberstampers.com/html.html

<Stampnbev> Thanks Janet!

<paperpushe> Thanks Janet

<RubberRabb> yup

<cindyc> ty

<Lea> I loved your carvings

Shannon needs to copy off someone

<Cheri> thanks Janet

<EBhtmling> ty janet, this was way fun

<Janet> evey, type it all in. evey.html

<MaggieB> polymer class in #craftclass

<brenda> ty janet

<Lineka> Thanks Janet & cak

<Janet> gotta get to class. see you all there.

<MaggieB> we are there

<cak> thanks Janet--lots of fun!

<beanjean1> thanks janet!

<evey71> OK WILL TRY-LIVE AND LEARN IT WILL BE FUN THANKS ALOT-BCNU IN NEXT CLASS i GUESS

<brenda> yes evie

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