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<Janet> OKAY. LET'S GET STARTED HERE, THIS IS MAKING COOL BACKGROUND IMAGES FOR YOUR WEB PAGES.

<Janet> (ALTHOUGH WE'VE BEEN KNOWN TO MAKE THEM TO PRINT THEM AS BACKGROUNDS FOR STAMPING PROJECTS TOO)

<Lissa> Nikki!

<Nikki> Gidday Lissa

<Janet> SO HOW MANY OF YOU ARE PLAYING WITH COMPUTER GRAPHICS SOFTWARE?

Lissa raises hand

<Janet> I KNOW THE REGULARS IN THIS WEEKLY GRAPHICS CLASS ARE. :)

<Cheri> me

<cak> some

<MomCat> me

RubberRabb> not me right now..

<jena> I just bought a printer on Wednesday.

<Lineka> I am

<Nikki> got PSP for my bday but havent really played with it yet

<Lissa> happy birthday, Nikki *s*

<Janet> WHEN YOU START TO PLAY, YOU'LL LOVE IT. START COMING HERE EVERY TUESDAY AT 9 P.M. AND LEARN GRAPHICS WITH US

<Nikki> lol Lissa bday was last month

<nic> oh hi phyl

<Janet> I LOVE COMPUTER GRAPHICS, AND MAKING BACKGROUNDS IS A GREAT EXCUSE TO JUST PLAY AROUND WITH YOUR SOFTWARE

<Lissa> happy belated, nikki *g*

<Scout> Hi, goiing to audit this for my husband. Then he can explain it to me.......the dummy!

<Phyl> hi nic

<Janet> SCOUT, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THIS.

<Nikki> just photo editing so far nothing creative

<Janet> IT'S PUNCHING THE BUTTONS IN THE SOFTWARE JUST TO SEE WHAT THEY DO. :)

<Janet> IT'S TIME TO START HAVING FUN AND BEING CREATIVE WITH THE GRAPHICS SOFTWARE!

<Lissa> yayyyyyy

<nic> ty

<Phyl> go janet

<Janet> SO LAST WEEK THE HOMEWORK FOR THE REGULARS WAS TO FIND SOME COOL TEXTURE TYPE THINGS TO MAKE INTO BACKGROUNDS, DID YOU ALL DO THAT?

<Scout> Funny, I keep trying to teach him rubber stamping, but it doesn't sink in to him. I'm the same with the computer.

<Lineka> No

nic raises her hand to ask a question

<cindycBRB> i gots lots of texture backgrounds saved janet... for my desktop

<cindycBRB> love the utees and fibers... stretched out!

<cindycBRB> lol

<Lineka> can I use photos?

<Janet> LINEKA. TSK TSK (IS THAT A CANDY BAR WRAPPER I SEE UNDER YOUR DESK? GRAB IT UP AND SAY YOU DID THE HOMEWORK)

<Lissa> *grins*

<Lineka> :-(

<Janet> NIC? YES?

<nic> ummm... you guys meet here every week?

<Lineka> can I use photos?

<Janet> OR LINEKA SAY THAT YOUR DESK PENCIL IS YOUR NEW BACKGROUND. ANYTHING WILL WORK! REALLY

<Lissa> you can, Lineka

<Janet> AND YES, YOU CAN USE PHOTOS

<Janet> AND YES, NIC WE MEET HERE EVERY WEEK

<Lissa> zoom in reallllllllllly close

<Lineka> ty

<nic> to talk about web design?

<Scout> Crumpled up photos...more artistic

<Lissa> if you zoom in really close on a photo, you get that mosaic effect

<cindycBRB> sheesh no credit for me using utee and fibers pics for bgs?

<Janet> YES, WE JUST FINISHED A BASIC HTML COURSE AND NOW WE'RE LEARNING GRAPHICS

Lissa gives cindy credit

<Janet> EXTRA CREDIT, CINDY!

Lineka artistic, LOL

<nic> can i join the class?

<Janet> YES, WELCOME!

<nic> Yay!! :)

<Phyl> I am a 'puter newbie so I will say bye guys and see you all later.

<cindycBRB> ty ty ty

<Janet> SO EVERYBODY (AND SOMEBUNNY) NEW... PHYL, DON'T GO

<Phyl> why

<Janet> YOU WON'T BE A NEWBIE FOR LONG. )

<nic doesnt want Phyl to go

<Lissa> Phyl, it's easy

<Janet> BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUN!

<cindycBRB> hey this is my first time here... janet!

RubberRabbit ties phyl to chair

<Lissa> this is the place to de-newbie-cize yourself

<Janet> WELCOME, CINDY, YOU NEWBIE :)

<Phyl> ok i'll stay you talked me into it chair and all

<nic> Yay!!

<cindycBRB> gosh.... *†*

<Lineka> lol

<Phyl> lol

<Janet> I HAVE A MARGINAL CLASS PAGE... http://www.cyberstampers.com/backgrounds/backgrounds.html

<nobunny> Im nobunny til somebunny luvs me

<Janet> I REALLY MEANT TO MAKE A NEW ONE AND (SURPRISE) DIDN'T HAVE TIME THIS WEEK.

nobunny wonders why

<Janet> (IT'S LUPINE MANIA IN HERE. !! LOL)

<Lissa> LOL

<Lissa> Night of the Lepus

<Janet> HAS ANYONE EVER SCANNED A CRUNCHED UP CANDY WRAPPER?

<cindycBRB> nope

<nic> nope can't say that i have

<Janet> FOIL OR ANY KIND?

<Lissa> enough of them lying around from my kids...i should have no excuse

<Janet> WELL, IT'S TIME!

<nobunny> oh, are you supposed to NOT eat the candy wrappers?

Lineka doesn't have a scanner, she'll try a photo

<cindycBRB> if i scan it knocks me off of the modem....

<Janet> A PHOTO WILL WORK GREAT, LINEKA

Lissa needs a good excuse to buy chocolate

<nic> huh?

<Lineka> ty

<Janet> OKAY, THEN TAKE NOTES AND TRY THIS AFTER CHAT, OKAY?

<nic> oh, cindy that's wrong...

<Phyl> dang i can't get the url

<Scout> I hide the candy wrappers.....

<Janet> OR ELSE TRY IT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT YOU WHEN YOU'RE GETTING BACK IN. (HEH HEH)

<cindycBRB> hey and bg's... i have used your beads as backgrounds to Janet!

<nobunny> your scanner and your modem are using the same port?!

<cindycBRB> but it is true nic

<nobunny> that's not good

<Janet> SCOUT, SCAN ONE AND SAY YOU HAD TO FOR COMPUTER CLASS. AND LOOK SUPERIOR WHEN YOU SAY IT.

<cindycBRB> no... it just knocks it out don't know why

<Lissa> say you threw out the candy...

<nic> hmmm... what kind of scanner connection?

<cindycBRB> that is a mortal sin!

<Lissa> i know, but it doesn't have to be the TRUTH

<Lissa> just SAY it

<Janet> AT THE VERY LEAST

<Janet> LOL

<cindycBRB> that is too... lol

<Janet> OKAY!

<cindycBRB> i will eat the candy

<Janet> MY FIRST BACKGROUND I SCANNED THE EDGE OF A PIECE OF MULBERRY PAPER, THE FEATHERED EDGE

<RubberRabb> that would be cool, Janet

<Lineka> Oooo

<Nikki> like they would believe me

<RubberRabb> I'd like to put my dog on the scanner and scan his fur but he's too big..

<Lissa> LOL

<nic> lol!

<Lissa> scan a photo of him!

<Phyl> lol

<RubberRabb> a roomful of hoppers

<Janet> (i SAW A WEB PAGE OF A BUNCH OF SCANNED CATS, WHERE PEOPLE HAD PUT THEIR CATS ON THE SCANNER AND SCANNED THEM, FUNNY FUNNYP PAGE)

<Owen> Scan a paw or somesuch

Lissa needs that url

<somebunny> Rubberrabbit, just scan his tail

<Scout> My puter background is a picture of Anthony Head gazing fondly at a rose. MMMMM

<Owen> catscans.com

nic goes looking for her cat to scan

<Janet> MY CAT REFUSED

<Owen> unless they changed again.

<RubberRabb> he wags it too much

<Phyl> i saw scanned something else on rotten .com

<Lissa> my webpage background is a brayered card i did...and i treated it with filters

<RubberRabb> and he won't stand still for the scanner--the noise spooks him

<Phyl> bad bad bad bad

<Janet> LOL

<nic> lol

<Janet> THAT SOUNDS YUMMY, LISSA

<Lissa> i love playing with the filters

<somebunny> What is the yellow one at the bottom of the page?

<Owen> Either drug the cat. or just do it anyway.

<Janet> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH ANY BACKGROUND, OTHER THAN ONE BIG HUGE FILE (WHICH ISN'T GOOD FOR A WEB PAGE BECAUSE IT TAKES SO LONG TO LOAD)

<Janet> IS THAT IT IS HARD TO GET IT TO TILE NEATLY

nic goes looking for her puppy to scan

<Janet> WITHOUT THE SEAMS SHOWING

<cindycBRB> oh, i just cropped a square from a giraffe picture and now my desktop has giraffe skin~

<Lissa> my kitten would freak out

<Janet> OH KEWL, CINDY

<Lissa> my problem is the seamless part

<Janet> SO MY DUTY IN CLASS TONIGHT IS TELLING YOU ALL HOW TO GET THE SEAMS OUT OF YOUR BACKGROUNDS

<RubberRabb> That's the problem with some of the backgrounds I've seen on websites--they take too dang long to load

<Janet> (THE OTHER EXAMPLES ON THE PAGE IS SCANNED SARAN WRAP AND A SCANNED WHEAT THIN)

Lissa remembers the wheat thin *g*

<nic> wheat thin? lol :)

<Phyl> what if you don't have a scanner

<somebunny> never woulda thought of a wheat thin!

<Janet> OKAY. SO VISUALIZE YOUR LITTLE TILE THAT YOU WANT TO BE A BACKGROUND...

<RubberRabb> a piece of homemade bread would be nice, too

<Phyl> will a digital work

<Cheri> Love the wheat thin

<Janet> VISUALIZE IT AS A BROWNIE

<RubberRabb> or a bit of cheese

<nic> oh, yes!

<Lissa> yeah, but how to clean the glass!

<RubberRabb> visualize whirled peas

<somebunny> yum\

<nic> do you have a digital?

<Phyl> yes

<somebunny> no thanks

<Janet> OKAY!

<nic> oh that would be much easier to get cat fur with

<Lineka> k

<nic> g

<Janet> SO WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR GRAPHICS SOFTWARE...

<somebunny> whats a digital

<Phyl> pics come in small

Lissa opens Photoshop

<Phyl> camera bunny

<somebunny> duhh

<Janet> YOU ADD ABOUT 10 PERCENT OF YOUR TOTAL AS EXTRA WHITE SPACE ALL AROUND THE EDGES.

<Janet> THAT SOUNDS HARDER THAN IT IS.

<Janet> IF YOUR SQUARE IS 200 X 200 PIXELS ADD 20 PIXELS TO ALL THE SIDES

<Janet> MOST SOFTWARE WILL LIST THIS IN THE MENU AS "EXPAND"

<nic> Janet, what software are we using?

<Janet> OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT

<Janet> NIC, WHATEVER WE'VE GOT. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE USING PSP PRINT SHOP PRO,

<Lineka> Janet, resize?

<Janet> SOME OF US ARE USING PHOTO SHOP OR PHOTO SHOP LE (THAT COMES FREE WITH THE SCANNER)

<Janet> NOT RESIZE

<nic> k, thanks

<Janet> IT WILL BE IN THE MENU WITH RESIZE, BUT IT'S ADDING MORE NEW PIXELS TO YOUR EDGES

<Janet> IT'S PROBABLY CALLED EXPAND

<Lineka> resample?

<Phyl> so with photo shop you can make pics bigger

<Janet> NO, SOMETHING ELSE.

<nic> yep

<Phyl> cool

<Phyl> thnx

<Janet> IN PICTURE PUBLISHER IT IS CALLED EXPAND

<cak> In photoshop it's under Image--Canvas size

<nic> I've got photoshop and love it

<Janet> OR YOU CAN COPY YOUR SQUARE TO CLIPBOARD, START A NEW IMAGE 10 PERCENT BIGGER AND PASTE THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT

<Phyl> thanks

<Janet> HOWEVER YOU CAN DO IT

<RubberRabb> in found it in adobe photoshop--canvas size

<Lissa> thanks, charlotte

<Janet> OKAY! CHANGE CANVAS SIZE. THAT'S IT

<Janet> DER, THAT'S WHAT IT IS IN FIREWORKS, TOO

<Lineka> OK, hold on!

<Lineka> 1024 X 768

<Janet> (NIC, THIS IS THE REAL TRICK IN GRAPHICS CLASS, FIGURING OUT WHAT FUNCTION IS CALLED IN ALL OUR DIFFERENT SOFTWARES)

<Lineka> too big?

<Janet> THAT WOULD BE TOO BIG.

<Janet> TRY 400X400

<nic> aaahhhh

<nic> I can see where that would be kind of a problem

<Lineka> ok

<Janet> SO ANYWAY, YOU'VE GOT EXTRA WHITE SPACE ALL AROUND YOUR SQUARE OF BACKGROUND...

<Lissa> mine's green...

<Lineka> no

<RubberRabb> and in ptotoshop you have to choose pixels, the default is inches

<Phyl> eeeek

<Janet> AND SAY YOUR BACKGROUND IS A BROWNIE, WITH THREE NEATLY CUT EDGES AND ONE EDGE THAT SOMEONE'S NIBBLED ON

<nic> yum

RubberRabbit wipes chin

<Lissa> LOL..."web graphics with Food...Next Oprah"

<RubberRabb> not me!

<Phyl> are pixels anything like pixies

<Janet> BUT YOU NEED ALL THE EDGES TO BE NEATLY CUT SO IT WILL TILE ACROSS YOUR PAGE WITHOUT MAKING A PATTERN OF BITES

<nic> lol!

<Phyl> lol

Janet SEES CRUMBS ON THE RABBIT'S FUR

<Lineka> ?me PSP is NOT cooperating!

<RubberRabb> no--that's just , uh, dandruff

<Janet> MAR WOULD KNOW, WHERE IS MAR? LOL

<RubberRabb> yeah, that's it

<RubberRabb> dandruff

<Phyl> get head and shoulders

<Janet> DANDRUFF. UH HUH

<Lineka> I have a pink band on the bottom

<nic> brown dandruff?

<Phyl> ick

<nic> or white brownies?

<RubberRabb> white chocolate brownies

<Phyl> i have green

<nic> green brownies?

<Phyl> mold

<Janet> SO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS USE YOUR MASKING OR LASSO TYPE TOOL AND CUT THAT BITE EDGE IN PAST THE BITES, IN A STRAIGHT LINE ALL THE WAY DOWN...

<Phyl> what language is that janet?

<Janet> YOU'LL USE THE MASKING TOOL TO MAKE THE CUT (IT'S GRAPHICS TALK<G>) AND THEN MOVE THAT PIECE OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE, WHERE THE NEAT CUT IS

<RubberRabb> computerlish

<Phyl> i'm lost on that one

<Janet> AND YOU'LL BE LEAVING A NEAT CUT ON WHAT WAS THE BITE SIDE

<Phyl> and i was doing so good

<RubberRabb> well, phyl, you do need to have a graphics program so you can see what she's talking about

<Phyl> i see

<Janet> YES, PHYL, WHEN YOU GET A GRAPHICS PROGRAM AND START PLAYING WITH IT, IT WILL MAKE MORE SENSE

<RubberRabb> just hang in there--she'll keep talking and it will eventually make sense

<cak> Why wouldn't you just cut and paste onto another layer?

<Phyl> thanks

<cak> (or is that what you mean?)

<Janet> WELL, WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS MERGE THOSE BITES INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE BROWNIE

<RubberRabb> adobe photoshop has a tutorial, too, phyl

<Phyl> thank you

<RubberRabb> bites? I thought it was just nibbles!

<Janet> BECAUSE THE CUT EDGE THAT YOU JUST CUT, WHEN YOU TILE THE IMAGE BACK, THOSE TWO CUTS WILL LINE UP AND TILE PERFECTLY

<Janet> WELL, AFTER I PICKED UP THE BROWNIE WHERE YOU NIBBLED IT, I BIT IT A LITTLE

<Janet> SO IT'S BITES NOW

<Janet> ( I WUZ HUNGRY)

<RubberRabb> but I didn't nibble it!

<Janet> OH YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, DANDRUFF

<RubberRabb> points at the absent somebunny

<Owen> Why not crop to size?

<Janet> OWEN, BECAUSE THAT WON'T GET YOUR EDGES TO BE MATCHING EDGES OF A CUT

<nic> anyone want a puppy?

<Phyl> hell no

<Janet> PICTURE YOURSELF CUTTING THE EDGE OFF THE BROWNIE WITH A KNIFE WITH RED ICING ON IT...

<RubberRabb> no; have one already

<Lissa> Serene!!!!!!!!! *Hugs*

<Phyl> have five cats

<Lissa> has my first kitten

<Janet> AND THEN MOVING THE SLICE OVER SO THE RED ICING MARKS ARE ON THE OUTER EDGES OF BOTH SIDES

<nic> oh my!

<Phyl> yup

<RubberRabb> welcome to the cooking with Janet show

<nic> I've got 2 cats and 2 puppies

<Phyl> cooked rabbit

<Owen> Okay.

<Phyl> nice nic

<RubberRabb> HEY

<Phyl> sorry

<Phyl> i like rabbit

<Janet> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE

<nic> lol

<jena> so is one bite side facing left and teh other facing right?

<Janet> YOU HAVE TO HAVE MATCHING CUTS ON ALL THE EDGES

<Janet> OR IT WON'T TILE RIGHT

<Lissa> it makes sense...now to execute...

<Phyl> oh loaded question

<Janet> LOL PHYL

RubberRabbit moves away from Phyl

<Phyl> lol

<Janet> WHEN YOU CUT YOUR IMAGE, THE EDGES OF YOUR CUT WILL MATCH UP

<nic> rofl!!

<Phyl> yum yum rabbit

RubberRabbit hides behind the Queen

<Janet> SO YOU WANT YOUR CUT EDGES TO BE THE OUTSIDE EDGES

<Janet> IS THAT MAKING MORE SENSE YET?

<RubberRabb> yes

<nic> so we're cutting one side and pasting it to the other 3?

<Lineka is lost, she'll just take notes, again

<Janet> SO YOU'LL CUT AND MAKE THE LEFT AND RIGHT EDGES BE YOUR CUT EDGES...

<Phyl> send them to me lineka

RubberRabbit hands lineka a map

<Lineka> ty

<Janet> THEN YOU'LL ZOOM IN AND PIXEL-EDIT WHERE YOU'VE PUT THE BITE EDGE INTO THE BROWNIE

<Janet> SORT OF SMOOTHING OVER THAT LINE

<nic> bite? or byte?

<Phyl> pixel-edit? sounds like a bad word

<Janet> I USUALLY USE A COMBINATION OF THE SMEAR BRUSH AND THE CLONE TOOL

<Janet> YOU HAVE TO DO IT TO GET PIXELATED, PHYL. :)

<Phyl> oh god those words again

<nic> lol!!

<Phyl> i already am

<Lineka> here we go again

<Lissa> not the rectangular marquee tool?

<Janet> THEN YOU'RE HALFWAY THERE, ALL YOU NEED IS THE SOFTWARE. lol

<Phyl> lol

<RubberRabb> my adobe doesn't have a clone..sigh

<Phyl> mogan david to understand software

<Lineka> lol

<nic> I haven't figured out how to use the clone tool yet

<Janet> IT WILL. CAK, WHAT'S THE CLONEY TOOL CALLED IN THAT ONE?

<Scout> Sort of like taking two pieces of broken cake, slopping them together and then covering with icing.

<cak> rubberstamp I believe

<Janet> SCOUT YES!!!

<Janet> THAT'S EXACTLY IT!!!!! WOO HOO!

<cak> (and she's the newbie!)

<Phyl> give scout a badge

<Janet> USE WHATEVER TOOLS YOU WANT TO, TO GET THAT ICING SMOOTH

<nic> more food! I'm hungry

<Janet> AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THAT MERGED BIT, DO THE SAME THING TO THE TOP AND THE BOTTOM

<RubberRabb> ah--but I don't have rubberstamp in this version (a low one)--just smear..

<Janet> SO YOU END UP WITH ALL OF YOUR CUTS AS THE OUTER EDGES. AND THE INNER MERGED PARTS, YEAH, ICING'ED OVER

<cak> Janet, I always seem to be happy until I tile it--mine always look crappy

<Janet> SMEAR WILL WORK

<Phyl> watchout rabbit python in the group

<RubberRabb> oh, ok

<Janet> SO THEN YOU PULL IT BACK UP AND MESS WITH IT MORE.

RubberRabbit climbs onto the Queen's lap

<Phyl> lol

<Phyl> you gone rabbit

<Janet> BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHERE YOU MERGED THE CUTS, I THINK YOU'LL ALWAYS SEE THEM

<Lissa> even if others don't see it, you'll know

<Janet> PLAY WITH THIS OVER THE WEEK AND WE'LL REVISIT IT NEXT WEEK, OKAY

<Lissa> it's like the mistakes in your artwork...you can see 'em, but no one else can

<cak> OK!

<RubberRabb> ok

<Lineka> k

<Janet> AND LET'S TALK OUR LAST 20 MINUTES ABOUT POTENTIAL COOL BACKGROUND MATERIALS

<Lissa> ok

<RubberRabb> just make that python leave the room

<nic> ok

<Phyl> lol

<Janet> SHE'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION ANYWAY

<RubberRabb> that's what all pythons say

<Phyl> lol

<nic> lol

<Janet> RIGHT BEFORE THEY SNACK ON THE RABBITS. LOL

<Janet> OKAY!

<MomCat> lol

<Phyl> yum

<RubberRabb> that's why I'm staying on the queen's lap

<Janet> I TOLD YOU ABOUT MY SARAN WRAP

Lissa is still known as Lissa

<TheQueen> huh? wha?

<Phyl> yes

<Cheri> buble wrap

<RubberRabb> waxed paper looks pretty cool too

<Janet> SCAN OR GET PHOTOS OF DIFFERENT TEXTURES LIKE THAT AND NOW YOU PLAY WITH YOUR FILTERS!

<Cheri> bubble wrap

<Lissa> any fabric is cool

<Janet> SEE WHAT ALL YOUR FILTERS DO

<MomCat> I was thinking that Gem's belly would be beautiful, scanned.

<TheQueen> i'm here

<nic> jeans?

<Phyl> what is the deep red

<Lissa> even use the filters on smooth textures

<Janet> I THINK IT WOULD BE, DIANE.

<Lissa> that's how i learned what they really do

<RubberRabb> some of Redstick's painted tissue would be a great background

<Janet> AND AFTER GEM EATS, SHE'LL BE COOL WITH THE SCANNER, TOO

<Lissa> RR you're right

<Lissa> that stuff is gorgeous

<Lissa> and Gem is...who..?

<Janet> AND YOUR GRAPHIC SOFTWARE ALSO HAS SOME TEXTURES THAT CAME WITH IT. FILL A SQUARE WITH SOME OF THOSE AND PLAY FILTERS ON THOSE TOO

<Janet> GEM IS DIANE'S SNAKE

<Lissa> ohhhhhhhhh

<nic> AAAAHHHH!

<Phyl> hmmmmm

<Lissa> i don't mind snakes

<RubberRabb> I'm outta here--this is getting too personal

<Lissa> it's earwigs that GROSS me out

<Phyl> eeeeeek

<jena> This has been fun, but I gotta get offline now. Thanks for the lesson.

<Janet> LOL

<Phyl> ew

<cak> Night Jena

<Janet> SEE YOU NEXT CLASS, JENA

<Oh_So> Since I came in halfway through, is there a web address where I could view some samples?

<Phyl> bye jena

<nic> i wonder if she's going after another racoon?

<Cheri> oh, no those yucky slug bugs (too slimy)

<Lineka> by jena

<Phyl> ewwwww

<jena> I will try to be there. Gosh I hope not.

<Janet> http://www.cyberstampers.com/backgrounds/backgrounds.html IS MY MARGINAL CLASS PAGE

<Phyl> janet is the deeep red syran wrap also

<Owen> HI Queen

<Janet> IT ACTUALLY SHOWS ME CUTTING AND PASTING BACK TOGETHER THE MULBERRY PAPER ONE TO HIDE THE SEAM

<MomCat> Gem has a shiny, black and white checkered belly

<Janet> IT IS!

<TheQueen> Hi Sunflower Owen!

<Phyl> cooool

<Janet> I USED A COLORIZE FILTER ON THOSE

<Scout> MARTHA says snakes are a good thing...

<TheQueen> how is Owwen? warm? <G>

<nic> lol scout

<Phyl> goood for what martha

<Janet> AND IT SHOWS MY WHEAT THIN BACKGROUND

<nic> good eatin'?

<Lissa> whee is colorize?

<Lineka> It looks like lungs

<Phyl> like chicken?

<TheQueen> that's a nice image <G>

<Janet> CRUMPLED UP AND SMOOTHED BACK OUT FOIL MAKE AN INTERESTING TEXTURE

<Janet> LAWN CLIPPINGS DO

<Phyl> speaking from experience?

<TheQueen> no it TASTES like chicken, looks like lungs

<Scout> Had a corn snake for 10 yrs and my girl scouts loved it.

<Oh_So> Thanks, Janet. Lots of great information here.

<TheQueen> Oh NEAT JANET

<TheQueen> LAWN CLIPPINGS

<Phyl> old snake

<Lissa> i had a corn snake wrapped around me during a field trip with my 4-year old

<Lissa> Janet, where is the Colorize filter?

<nic> nope, can't say that i've ever had snake

<Janet> I SCANNED A PIECE OF HONEYSUCKLE FOR A LAWN PAGE BORDER ONCE

<Owen> brb, got to get Brian into bed

<Scout> That's what the girls used to do.

<Janet> UP UNDER THE COLOR MAPPING TOOLS

<Cheri> you ugys are giving me the creeps

<Phyl> ugys?

<nic> they tell me squirrel is pretty good though

TheQueen wonders why snakes is till the TOPIC in class <G>

<Phyl> us ugys are creepy

<Cheri> guys, sorry can't type

<Lissa> on photoshop, Janet?

<Janet> PLAY WITH ALL THOSE MAPPING TOOLS AND THE FILTER TOOLS

TheQueen is doing her best DEB imitation

<Janet> PLAY WITH EVERYTHING

<Phyl> me either

<Phyl> can i?

<Scout> He would have made a gorgeous scan, all rust red, white and black, very pretty,

<cak> (I'm trying to figure out how to replace one color with another--it's been too long since I learned that)

<Janet> YES, UNDER THE COLOR MAPPING, CLOSE TO WHERE YOUR HISTOGRAM IS

<Janet> I DID SCAN CHICO'S TAIL ONCE, THAT MADE A COOL BACKGROUND

<RubberRabb> I'm still staying up on the Queen's lap until I'm sure the snake is gone

<TheQueen> LOL

<TheQueen> poor rabbit

<Phyl> well Janet, it was good, I learned a little from you even though most of it was greek to me. Only had computer since Jan. this year. but it was fun

<Janet> OTHER IDEAS?

<nic> oh, those glass pebble thingys

<Janet> SEE, PHYL??

<Lissa> fingers

<Phyl> dang you were right

<RubberRabb> corrugated paper

<Nikki> yes please Janet

<cak> Wow! and you understood even some of it--you're pretty good!

<Janet> LOL I'M ALWAYS RIGHT. :)

<Phyl> donca just hate that

<RubberRabb> skeleton leaves

<cak> kinda boring, but gradient fills

<RubberRabb> postage stamps

<Janet> OH YES, SKELETON LEAVES WOULD BE COOL

<Janet> I LIKE GRADIENT FILLS

<Lissa> candles

TheQueen misread that.....janet is always RIGHT?

<Phyl> lol

<RubberRabb> be careful of wrapping paper or other patterned papers

<nic> rofl!

<Janet> OR GET A PHOTO AND PICK A TINY PIECE OF IT TO TOLE

<Janet> TILE EVEN

<TheQueen> hi ida

<cak> it's hard to get them so the pattern doesn't intrude

<Janet> HI, IDA

<RubberRabb> because the patterns are usually copyrighted

<cindyc> yea i like to do that janet

<Janet> OR GET THEM WHERE THE PATTERN BECOMES PART OF IT

<Lissa> leather

<Phyl> anyone know about fractals?

<cindyc> and invert them.. lol

<Ida> Hi everyone!

<Lissa> suede

<nic> oh! I was just at the library today and they had put together a booklet of all copyright free publications

<Janet> PUT A WINDOW FRAME ON A PIECE OF PHOTO AND YOU'VE GOT A TILED WALL OF WINDOWS

<Lineka> hi Ida

<Janet> I LOVE FRACTALS

<Phyl> where can i get them

<RubberRabb> they will eventually help predict earthquakes

<Phyl> lol

<Janet> DO AN INTERNET SEARCH ON FRACTALS AND SEE WHAT YOU FIND

<Janet> HI, MELISSA

<Owen> Get a fractal generator

<Phyl> thanks janet

<Melissa> Hi I'm back!

<RubberRabb> I have a screensaver of fractals

<Janet> I DID A COOL BORDER FOR THE STAMPFOLK BOOTH, I HAD SUCH FUN DOING THAT

<Lissa> owen, where can you get one?

<Phyl> too expensive owne

<Phyl> owen

<Phyl> like owne better

<Scout> How can fractals predict earthquakes?

<Owen> Try Tucows or NoNags

<RubberRabb> but I also have one of a tiger rabbit and I'm going to bring it with me to keep away the snakes

<Phyl> lol

<Janet> I COLORED IN A QUILT SQUARE AND MADE IT REALLY SMALL. A QUILT SQUARE TILED, THE EDGES BECOME AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT

<Owen> If I owned anything, I would feel rich.

<RubberRabb> the science that helps generate fractals helps figure out where things break

<Phyl> aw rabbit

<Scout> oh

Lineka thinks Janet needs to get out more

<Janet> LOL

<Phyl> oh a educated rabbit

nic stans in awe of rr's big brain

<Owen> Embroidery can make great backgrounds.

<Janet> OOO YES

<RubberRabb> (them ears aren't just empty space)

<cak> sounds lovely Janet

<nic> lol

<Phyl> not what i heard

<RubberRabb> so can weaving

<RubberRabb> well, what do you expect of a person who is tied to a chair?

<nic> mathbunny?

<Phyl> knitted squares?

<Janet> I DID A TORN PIECE OF NOTEBOOK PAPER, TORN OUT OF A SPIRAL NOTEBOOK FOR THE DUELING MODEMS EDUCATION FORUM PAGES.

<Lissa> text of different languages

<Phyl> bunny math

<Owen> Or lace

<RubberRabb> yep but I don't multiply

<Lissa> go to a webpage of japanese or arabic text

<Phyl> watch out for those bunny math

<Janet> AND THE NEEDLEARTS FORUM HAS AIDA FABRIC AS A BACKGROUND

<Lissa> print it out, and make it a background

<nic> <G>

<cak> a page out of a journal--something filled with handwriting

<RubberRabb> how about a map?

<Lissa> book covers

<Phyl> coool cak

<Janet> (MAKES YA WONDER IF THEY GO MAKE BACKGROUNDS OF ENGLISH, DOESN'T IT?)

<Lissa> LOL janet!

<RubberRabb> or old leatherworking

<Phyl> yes

<RubberRabb> window screen

<Lissa> styrofoam packing stuff

<Owen> I have seen things like ledger pages or diary pages.

<Phyl> shelf liner

<Janet> SOME OF OUR TEXTURED CARDSTOCK

<Lissa> which we all have tons of from those orders we get in the mail

<Scout> seed pods like dandilions

<nic> feathers!

<Phyl> naugahyde

<Lissa> jewelry

<RubberRabb> I'm against naugahyde

<Lissa> i know

<Phyl> oh

<Lineka> good spelling, Phyl

<Owen> Try the fabric side of naugahyde.

<Lissa> save the nauga!

nic is impressed Phyl could spell that

<cak> close up of a scan of your palm

<RubberRabb> killing all those poor naugas

<Janet> LOL

<Ida> I have some old love letters in Spanish...beautiful writing. I use those for backgrounds. Also some old french documents in my geneology file.

<Owen> Thae should make a neat b/g

<Scout> Makes you stick to it, Rabbit

<Phyl> pooor sticky rabbit

<Phyl> put some oil on her

<cak> Those would make fabulous backgrounds Ida (web and paper!)

<Janet> STOMP IN MUD ON A PIECE OF CARDSTOCK AND THAT MIGHT MAKE A COOL BACKGROUND TOO

<Melissa> Janet, you are great at web design. The convention looks so incredible - - where'd you learn all this neat stuff?

<Owen> Naugas are fierce, but messy beasts.

<Scout> No, baby rabbit powder....

<Owen> They need to be killed off.

<Phyl> ah the old mud stomp

<Janet> MELISSA, I JUST PLAY WITH THIS STUFF.

<Lissa> even naugas deserve to live, Owen

<Phyl> i knew how to do that dance

<Lissa> far far away...but they deserve life too

<Janet> LEARN EVERYTHING BY TRIAL AND ERROR ERROR ERROR

<Melissa> then you have quite a knack for it!

<Phyl> lots of errors

<Owen> Not in my world, they don't/<G>

Lineka is good at error

<RubberRabb> I am beginning to think Phyl has designs on me (pouring oil on me?!)

<Phyl> none in janets

<Owen> And don't be impatient.

Lissa has never been on trial

<Janet> BUT SOMETIMES THE ERRORS ARE THE NEATEST THINGS

<Owen> Take lots of time.

<Phyl> yum yum

RubberRabbit hops back ont the Queen's lap

<Phyl> lol

<Janet> I THINK "OOPS, i DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT... OH BUT DOESN'T THAT LOOK COOL?"

<Phyl> here bunny here bunny

<Lineka> lol

<Lissa> LOL

<nic> lol

<Lissa> that's why you always have to take notes of how you're doing stuff

<RubberRabb> Hey!

<Lissa> so those accidents can become "on purposes"

<Janet> HIYA SPARKLE

<cak> (yeah, my spaz fingers show me a lot of neat shortcuts)

<RubberRabb> leggo my ear!

<Phyl> lol

<sparkle> see how long it takes me to drive 18 miles?

<Phyl> tails are better

<sparkle> isn't that pathetic?

<Lissa> *hugs* sparkle!

<Phyl> 20 seconds sparkle

<Phyl> fast cars, fast women

<Lissa> toys could be great backgrounds!

<Lissa> puzzle pieces

<Scout> What can I make for dinner between now and the next class?

<Owen> I thought that was loose cars, fast women.

<RubberRabb> pbj

<Janet> IN FOUR MINUTES?

<Phyl> mac and cheese

<sparkle> a call to pizza hut

<sparkle> ROFL

<cak> (phone for pizza)

<Janet> DECLARE A NUKE YOUR OWN NIGHT

<Phyl> like fast cars

<Lissa> i like double cheese on my pizza

<cak> (great minds sparkle)

<RubberRabb> (peanut butter and jelly)

<Ida> Managers choice!

<Phyl> rabbits don't like jelly

<Lineka> bread and water

<RubberRabb> how do you know?

<Lissa> chocolate!

<Phyl> i don't choose

<RubberRabb> rabbits do so like jelly

<RubberRabb> they like chocolate pie, too

<Janet> OKAY, FOLKS, HOMEWORK FOR NEXT WEEK IS TO PRACTICE MAKING SEAMLESS TILES

Lissa gulps audibly

<Scout> Snakes don't, they prefer rabbit.....

<RubberRabb> and cherry pie (just came back from Marie Callenders)

<Lissa> Rosemary!

<Cheri> will try

<Phyl> tyme

<Owen> And if I manage that even once, it will be a record for me, Janet.

<Janet> AND NEXT WEEK WE ALSO LEARN ABOUT BANNER AND TEXT TRICKS

<Lineka> ty Janet

RubberRabbit Hides behind Janet

<Janet> SO GO EXPLORING THE FREE FONTS SITES

<cak> Janet, do you find that a larger tile is easier to make "unpatterned" than a small one?

<Janet> AND FIND A FONT OR THREE YOU LIKE THAT'S NEW TO YOU

<Rosem> lissa? longtimenosee lissa?

<Lissa> i loved that site you put up last week, Janet!

<MomCat> Great class, Janet

<Lissa> that's me, Rosemary!!! the one and only!

<Melissa> ooooo! banners! i need to hit tht one!

<Phyl> thanks janet glad i stayed

<Rosem> hi!!!!!

<RubberRabb> Thanks Janet; but I think you should ban snakes from class

<Janet> I'M GLAD YOU DID, TOO, PHYL

<Rosem> wow, great to see you

<cak> (and if so, how do you balance with loading time?)

<Phyl> bye

<nic> thanks janet

<Janet> NOW YOU ALL COME BACK NEXT WEEK, HEAR?

<cindyc> mayeb

<cindyc> lol

<cak> Good Class!

<Cheri> thanks Janet

<Ida> Where do I find all the samples?

<Melissa> janet you're just great!

<Lissa> great to see you too, Rosemary!!! *hugs*

<Lineka> by everyone

<Janet> I HAVE SOME INNER SORT OF LINE OF ACCEPTABLE SEAMS. AND I CONVINCE MYSELF THAT I SEE THEM MORE THAN EVERYBODY ELSE

Lissa applauds the teacher and gives her a chocolate apple

<Rosem> janet, do these classes get logged

<Rosem> ?

<Janet> http://www.cyberstampers.com/backgrounds/backgrounds.html

<Janet> cak logs them

<Rosem> great, thanks

<Janet> SO GO DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

<Janet> PLAY WITH YOUR SOFTWARE!

<Rosem> this is one I needed, but couldn't get here in time

<TheQueen> rosem yes

<Janet> COME BACK NEXT WEEK!

<Owen> Night. Got to make Brian lie down , now that he is in bed.

TheQueen would rather play wiht hardware <G>

<Lissa> we're revisiting next week, Rosemary

<Lissa> bye owen

<Janet> MEET YOU ALL IN CRAFTCLASS FOR CLAY CLASS

<Janet> SEE YOU THERE~!

<Rosem> oh good

<cak> See you in #cc!

<Janet> #craftclass is where we're going now!

<cindyc> did you say play with our software???

<Janet> yes, go play!

<cindyc> hubby would like that type of homework....

<Lissa> going to play now, while it's fresh in my mind

Log file closed at 6/26/01 9:01:42 PM