Log file opened at 8/6/01 8:51:11 PM

<C_Lion> http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<Vaughnde> hello folks

<C_Lion> OK, I GUESS I START BY GOING INTO CAPS MODE

<cindyc> yup

<Vaughnde> it isn't time yet c lion

<C_Lion> OK

<Vaughnde> lol

<beanjean1> hi jess

<C_Lion> LET ME KNOW

<Vaughnde> according to my watch about another 5 minutes

<Vaughnde> Hi bj HUGS

<C_Lion> OK

<beanjean1> hugs to you jess

<cak> Your butterflies are beautiful CL!

<beanjean1> LOVE the samples!!!!!!!!

<C_Lion> THANK YOU CAK

<C_Lion> I AM JUST SOOOO TICKLED

<Vaughnde> I like the one on the cybercraft page

<Vaughnde> it is sooo cool

<cindyc> i agree they are lovely

<Vaughnde> whats the url for the other samples?

<C_Lion> http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<Vaughnde> okay its loading

<Vaughnde> I love the one from appaloosa arts

<beanjean1> me too jess

<Vaughnde> the lavendar is my favorite of course lol

<C_Lion> THE TOP TWO ARE FROM APPALOOSA AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL HAVE A SPECIAL FRO US TONITE

<Vaughnde> yeah!

<Vaughnde> I didn't know about the class...happened into chat about an hour or so ago and they were talking about it

<Vaughnde> so I thought I'd better NOT miss this one

<beanjean1> well, I really can't stay awake....

<Vaughnde> I am loggin'

<beanjean1> you all have fun....

<Vaughnde> and I bet cak is too

<Vaughnde> you too bj HUGS

<beanjean1> ok

<beanjean1> hugs to all

<beanjean1> night

<cak> night bj-- e me for the log

<cindyc> night bj

<beanjean1> ok thanks cak!

<Vaughnde> figured you'd say that cak

<Vaughnde> Hi Janet HUGS

<cindyc> hi Janet

<C_Lion> HI JANET

<cak> well, anyone can e either of us--lots of logs

<Vaughnde> oh definetly

<Vaughnde> its sooo much easier with the mirc thats for sure

<C_Lion> CAK i AM GOILG TO LET EVERYONE KNOW i WILL SEND THEM A PRINT OUT OF ANYONE OF THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR ONE OF THE BUTTERFLIES

<C_Lion> JUST SEND ME A SASE

<Vaughnde> that'll work

<cak> Sounds good--a lot of people like instruction, not a transcript

<C_Lion> AND THIS HAS A PIC

<Vaughnde> I do have a huge butterfly...but nothing like the ones you have cindy

<C_Lion> ARE WE READY TO START?

<Vaughnde> right now I can't remember which company it is from ....

<Vaughnde> yeap

<cak> I say yes!

<cindyc> y

<Janet> I'm ready!

<C_Lion> OK, THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR COMING TO MY MAIDEN VOYAGE HERE

<Janet> I saw the sample. I wouldn't have missed this.

<Janet> that's yummy

<MomCat> Thank you for being here!

<C_Lion> THE CLASS IS ABOUT BUTTERFLIES BLACK PAPER AND PEARLESCENT INKS

<cindyc> ahhhhhhh

<C_Lion> THERE ARE 4 SAMPES AT

<C_Lion> http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<raveAFK> yummm

<Vaughnde> ah....pearlescent inks

<C_Lion> 2 OF THE STAMPS ARE FROM APPALOOSA ART STAMPS AND THE LAST ONE IS MAGENTA

<Janet> what are pearlescent inks? I think I need some

<cindyc> i have the magenta.... but i love that aas on the right

<C_Lion> PEARLESCENT INKS ARE MADE BY DALER AND ROWNEY

<C_Lion> MANY PLACES CARRY THEM

<C_Lion> ON THE MALL i THINK PERHAPS RUBBER CHICKEN

<Vaughnde> which company on dm.net sells them?

<C_Lion> JANET?

<Janet> Rubber Chicken has everything.

<Vaughnde> hi evey

<deb> Rubberart sells them

<Janet> Rubberart sells them

<C_Lion> GREAT!

<Vaughnde> I was thinking don and linda would have them too

<Vaughnde> hi anno

<Janet> Samples at http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<anno> hey

<deb> wow - there's SHANNON!!!

<Janet> shannon, go loook, samples at http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<C_Lion> MANY INKS DO NOT WORK ON BLACK PAPER BUT PEARESCENTS AND A FEW OTHERS DO

<Shannon> ok

<Janet> think Lumiere paints would work?

<Janet> it's not ink, but it's shiney and covers black paper good

<cak> Not enough coverage for black paper CL?

<C_Lion> YES BUT IT WOULD GIVE A VERY DIFFERENT EFFECT

<C_Lion> YES CAK, THSY SOAK IN NAD GO NOWHERE

<C_Lion> THEY SOAK IN

<Janet> I have Lumieres. But I love buying new stuff.

<anno> wow.. these are very very pretty butterflies..

<cak> These were originally developed for calligraphy, right?

[the logger's connection was dropped here for a bit]

<C_Lion> OK SO TO START YOU STAMP YOUR BUTTERFLY IN SILVER OR COPPER AND EMBOSS IT

<anno> do we emboss in clear, or use metallic ep too?

<C_Lion> ON BLACK MATTE PAPER

<C_Lion> i USE METALLIC EP

<anno> 'k.

<anno> metallic ink and metallic ep.

<C_Lion> FOR THE PURPLE BUTTERFLY I USE SILVER

<C_Lion> THE INK CAN BE CLEAR OR METALLIC

<Janet> what kind of paper?

<C_Lion> BLACK MATTE FINISH

<Janet> okay

<C_Lion> I LIKE ASTROBRIGHT BLACK ECLIPSE

<deb> http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<C_Lion> BLACKEST PAPER I KNOW OF

<Vaughnde> if you don't have the lumiere's or the pearlescent paints...can you use something else?

<C_Lion> DO WE HAVE A PAPER VENDOR ON DM?

<C_Lion> YOU CAN BUT THE EFFECT IS NOT THE SAME

<Vaughnde> marco's I think

<Janet> Kathy Ann's Paper

<Vaughnde> cool

<MomCat> Kathy Ann's Paper

<Janet> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/kathyann.html

<C_Lion> HOPEFULLY SHE HAS THESE

<MomCat> and Wacky has card stock

<Janet> oh yes, Wacky has lots.

<C_Lion> FOR THE COPPER BUTTERFLY EMBOSS IN COPPER

<Vaughnde> looks like I gotta add something else to my wish list

<C_Lion> PEARLESCENTS ONLY COME IN A DOZEN COLORS SO IT IS NOT TOO BAD

<Vyx> I =need= those butterfly stamps. Even if I never use em. :)

<Janet> LOL

<Vaughnde> lol vyx

<C_Lion> I SAW ROSEM AND SUSAN AND THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL FOR US, E-MAIL THEM AFTER CLASS IF WE DO NOT HEAR FROM THEM

<Vaughnde> the butterfly stamp I have has lots of open areas ...perfect for coloring in with

<C_Lion> OK SO YOU HAVE STAMPED AND EMBOSSED

<C_Lion> NOW WE USE T HE INKS

<deb> http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<Janet> and this is on paper weight paper or cardstock weight paper?

<C_Lion> FOR THE PURPLE ONES I USED GALACTIC BLUE AND MOON VIOLET

<Janet> (sorry, I seem to be obsessing over the paper)

<C_Lion> CARDSTOCK

<Janet> okay, thanks

<raveAFK> Oh what lovely names...

<C_Lion> 'SOK MAKES ME DO IT RIGHT, JANET

<deb> http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<Janet> I'm just easily confused

<Janet> (seriously)

<Janet> (hi, Ida and Chris)

<evey71> late in we are using pearlescent paints?

<TheQueen> ya don't say, janet?

<C_Lion> THE COPPER COLORS ARE BIRDWING COPPER AND SILVER MOSS

<deb> yes evey71

<C_Lion> YES EVE

<Ida> Hi all!

<Janet> we are. I have another question, would the LUna Lights work?

<C_Lion> NO, I DO NOT THINK SO JANET, THEY TEXTURE IS WAY DIFFERENT

<C_Lion> LIKE LUMIERES

<Janet> okay. I don't have those either. (I need them all)

<deb> the Pearlescents are very thin

<raveAFK> Hmmm... in a pinch some of the bright pearl gel pens?

<C_Lion> MORE OF A RUBBERY TEXTURE TO THE DRY PAINT

<C_Lion> YOU COULD USE GEL PENS YES

<raveAFK> emergency glimmer...

<Janet> I'm gonna have to talk to Rubberart for sure then, get me some of these inks.

<C_Lion> BUT YOU WILL NOT GET THE MOTTLED LOOK OF THE COPPER BUTTERFLY

<deb> how did you mottle it?

<C_Lion> AS AN ASIDE, I MET HELENE FROM MAGENTA SUNDAY

<C_Lion> SHE LOVES THE BUTTERFLIES

<cak> What's not to love!?

<deb> they are gorgeous

<C_Lion> SHE GOT MAD AT ME THO -

<Janet> exactly. these are gorgeous

<deb> http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<deb> why?

<C_Lion> I WOULD NOT SELL HER A PIECE OF JEWELRY I MADE

<C_Lion> IT WAS CRACKED

<Janet> (because the AAS one looks better than the Magenta one)

<deb> lol

<cak> LOL (to you both)

<C_Lion> LOL

<C_Lion> HOORAY SUSAN

<cindyc> i agree... g

<Janet> actually I like 'em both

<C_Lion> SO I MADE HER A NEW ONE

<C_Lion> ME TOO

<Janet> but I've got the AAS butterfly

<deb> me too

<C_Lion> SO THE INKS USED - 2 COATS FOR A REAL GOOD COVER - LIKE ON THE PURPLE ONE

<Vaughnde> I think the aas butterfly is going on my wishlist

<Janet> (sitting here next to me so it could be at class, too, I'm hoping the stamp retains information better than I do)

<Vyx> heh

<Vaughnde> lol janet

<deb> lol janet

<Ida> I have got to get that AAS butterfly...so delicate!

<C_Lion> BUT USE 2 COATS OF BIRDWING COPPER AND 1 OF MOSS GREEN ONT HE COPPER BUTTERFLY

Janet holds green rubber up to the monitor screen

<C_Lion> SUSAN DO WE HAVE A SPECIAL?

<cindyc> is the aas bf as big as the magenta?

deb snatches janet's green rubber

<Susan> yes we do

<Janet> it's big. just the right size to sit on a card

<cindyc> kewl... ty

<Susan> do you want it now or later

Janet slaps deb with her green rubber

<deb> it's about 3" wide

<C_Lion> THE AAS BUTTERFLIES ARE LAREGER THAN THE MAGENTA BUT ON THE SHEETS THEY COME IN 3 SIXES

<Vyx> now

<C_Lion> SIZES

<C_Lion> OK IS EVERYONE CAUGHT UP TO THE INKING PART?

<deb> yes'm

<cindyc> i will have to make sure i don't have them yet... lol... i have soooo many aas

<cindyc> yup

<cak> CL--you use one coat to develop some mottling?

<C_Lion> NEXT YOU CUT OUT THE BUTTERFLY

<C_Lion> YES CAK - THE MOTTLING IS VERY BEAUTIFUL

<cak> (Yay! I guessed right)

<Janet> and stop adding coats when you like how it looks?

[connection dropped again]

<Janet> okay but cut down to the body?

<C_Lion> YES TO THE BODY

<C_Lion> AND LEAVE T HE ANTENNAE ON - THEY LOOK BETTER

<cak2> (drat my ISP) CL, do you have any trouble with the embossing flaking off when you're cutting out?

<Janet> any secrets on how to cut around the antennae?

<C_Lion> SHARP SCISSORS

<C_Lion> I REALLY PREFER THE LITTLE SOFT TOUCH FISCARS FOR CUTTING PAPER

<C_Lion> FISKARS

<cak2> Do you ever use a x-acto knife?

<evey71> sharp is the answer for sure

<Vaughnde> are these like those embroidery scissors we see at joann fabrics?

<C_Lion> ANDOTHER THING I FIOND FOR CUTTING OUT - DO NOT LEAVE THEM FOR DAYS AND DAYS BETWEEN EMBOSSING AND CUTTING

<Janet> i actually do better with a knife than with scissors usually

<C_Lion> THEY HAVE GREY HANDLES

<Vaughnde> never seen those

<deb> why?

<Janet> so the ep doesn't crack and flake as bad?

<C_Lion> IT SEEMS TO GET MORE BRITTLE WITH TIME, PERHAPS THE OILS IN THE EP SOAKS IN THE PAPER

<deb> mmm ok

<C_Lion> AT THE END OF CLASS I WILL GIVE YOU ALL MY SNAIL ADDY

<evey71> this explains a prob I had last week thanks

<C_Lion> SEND ME A SASE AND TELL ME WHICH IS YOUR FAVORITE BUTTERFLY AND I WILL SEND YOU A PRINT OUT OF INSTRUCTIONS ON IT

<Janet> all of the above

<Vaughnde> cool!

<Vaughnde> lol

<Vyx> thats a nice idea!

<C_Lion> OK SO LET'S NO DO THE LAYERING

<Janet> oh good. i'm layer-impaired

<C_Lion> THE BOTTOM LAYER OF EVERY ONE IS ASTROBRIGHT ECLIPSE BLACK

<Janet> I can paint pretty good but layers baffle me

<C_Lion> THE MOUNTING IS VERY IMPORTANT

<C_Lion> THE NEXT LATER FOR THE PURPLE IS JUST TURQUOISE CONSTRUCTION PAPER

<Vaughnde> basically 4 layers to a card right?

<C_Lion> FOR THE COPPER IT IS A MATTE FINISH PAPER

<C_Lion> YES 4 LAYERS

<Janet> and?? I wanna know what the purple is, it's yummy

<C_Lion> THE PURPLE LAYER IS THAT PURPLE VELVET PAPER

<Vaughnde> some of mine are 3 layers...I've done a few 4 layers

<Vaughnde> ooohhhh

<Vaughnde> gotta get me some more of that velvet paper

<deb> wow

<Janet> ahhhhhh and that's so beautiful

<C_Lion> AND THE GREEN IS BECKETT GREEN TEA

<Vyx> it is, awesomely lovely

<Janet> i love that stuff too

<C_Lion> I HAQVE A REAM OF BOTH WEIGHTS

<Janet> but the copper layer of the copper fly?

<Vaughnde> whom do you normally buy your cardstock from cl?

<C_Lion> AS I DO LOTS OF ASIAN

<Janet> (I usually buy paper locally because i'm cheap)

<C_Lion> I AQM AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY BUYER OF PAPER

<Janet> (I shouldn't say that outloud, huh?)

<C_Lion> ME TOO JANET

<Janet> LOL

<Vaughnde> lol...meaning anywhere it is cheap!

<Janet> well and local means not paying shipping on heavy paper. but some of this paper it's worth it to order

<Vaughnde> lol....no big deal Janet

cindyc lives happily in the land of Hollo's....

<C_Lion> THE COPPER IS A SPECIALTY PAPER BUT I THINK MARCO'S HAD IT

<C_Lion> THE COPPER IS

Janet is a Jhone's exotic paper addict

<Vaughnde> lol

<C_Lion> WHEN I DO NOT HAVE WHAT I WANT FOR MOUNTING I CARRY THE PIECE TO THE STORE WITH ME

<Vaughnde> I like some of EI's papers

<C_Lion> AND LAYER IN THE STORE UNTIL I FIND WHAT I WANT

<Vaughnde> now thats a good idea cindy

<Janet> oh yeah, those handmade tissues? those are gorgeous. I buy those to hoard

<C_Lion> WAHT YOU WANT TO MATCH ON THE COPPER IS THE COLOR IN THE WINGS

<MomCat> How about painting your own paper

<C_Lion> YOU CAN DO THAT TOO, MOM

<Vaughnde> I think you could do that too momcat

<Janet> oh yeah! and then it would match!

<C_Lion> THE COPPER ESPECIALLY YOU COUD SO AS IT IS NOT THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE MOST

<Janet> (and then I could trim it and not paint the middle part that's covered up too)

<Vaughnde> especially using the new shaving cream technique that I learned

<C_Lion> YOU COULD ALSO DO A POLISHED STONE

<MomCat> exactly, Janet

<Janet> i love polished stone

<cindyc> me too....

<C_Lion> VERY GOOD JANET

<Susan> Cindy

<cindyc> still my fave

<Janet> i like anything that gets my hands messy

<Vaughnde> lol

<Susan> Sorry to interupt

<C_Lion> ANYTIME YOU CANNOT MATCH - MAKE ONE

<Susan> but my neighbor needs my help

<C_Lion> YOU HAVE THE STUFF ALREADY

<cindyc> special?

<Susan> so I need to post the specials now

<Susan> and go help

<C_Lion> OK SUSAN - GO

<Susan> here they are

<Janet> specials! specials!

<C_Lion> CAPS PLEASE

<C_Lion> SPECAILS SPECIALS

<cak2> (we'll take 'em any time we can get 'em Susan)

<cindyc> oooooooooooooooooo

<Vaughnde> lol

<deb> http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<Susan> AAS has 2 butterfly plates

<Susan> PO030 Butterfly Celebration

<cindyc> i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed the one on the right...

<Janet> i neeeeeeeeed both!

<Susan> is regularly $22

<Susan> and PL099 Awesome Butterflies

<Vaughnde> lol

<cindyc> url?

<Susan> is regularly $17

<Susan> So the 2 together are normally $37

<Susan> But tonight you can buy both for just $30

<Janet> (cheap and greedy is not usually a good combination)

<Janet> both? for $30?

<Janet> that's my kinda special!

<deb> cool

<C_Lion> SOUNDS GREAT SUSAN

<Susan> And if I can find the paste button

<Susan> I'll give you some urls

<Susan> lol

<Janet> (both being the operative word)

<cak2> Wow

<cindyc> kewl

<C_Lion> ANY CODE NEEDED FOR THE ORDER, SUSAN?

<Susan> just mention the cyberclass special

<Vaughnde> and how long is the special good for?

<Susan> in the comments box on the order form

<Susan> or in an email to us

<Susan> and we will adjust the price!

<Susan> Through the end of this week

<Vaughnde> dang....

<cindyc> thanks Susan!

<Susan> anyone know where to find a paste button in mirc?

<Vaughnde> not gonna do me any good at this time :(

<C_Lion> GREAT SUSAN AND NICE MEETING YOU IN PERSON

<evey71> In the www. ref it has that sqiggly line I don't have it on my pc. Can you give me home page and where to look when I get there?

<Susan> Rosem usually takes care of those details

<cindyc> control plus v... lol

<Susan> http://www.aasimagick.com

<Susan> that's our homepage

<Susan> click on the go shopping button

<Susan> scroll down and click on plates

<Susan> and then you can scroll down to the plates

<Susan> sorry I'm not giving you urls

<Susan> I'm somewhat computer illiterate, lol

<Vaughnde> hey! thats okay

<cak2> We can get 'em--Hope your neighbor is OK Susan and thanks for the special special

<Vaughnde> nobody has to be perfect susan!!

<Susan> ok, thanks

<evey71> r the bfly ideas on this site as well?

<C_Lion> THANKS SUSAN

<Janet> You're doing great, Susan.

<Susan> see ya all later

<Susan> night

<Janet> besides, you got good stamps and that's all that matters to me

<Vaughnde> eve the butterfly ideas are from c lion

<cindyc> http://www.aasimagick.com/details.asp?product_id=PO030

<Vyx> What kind of keyboard doesn't have an ~?

<Vaughnde> an old one maybe?

<C_Lion> SNAIL MALE ME A SASE TELLING ME WICH BUTTERFLY YOU LIKE BEST

<Janet> the kind Evey has

<C_Lion> I WILL SEND YOU A PAGE SAGE PRINT OUT OF INSTRUCTIONS

<Janet> naw, but maybe a new one. old one always had tildes

<Vaughnde> now thats a good idea

<Vaughnde> my new one has it too Janet

<Vaughnde> who knows

<cak2> CL, how long does it take the ink to dry?

<Janet> so we write you and you will send us an instruction sheet, that's so nice!

<C_Lion> OK ARE WE READY TO GO BACK TO PASTING PAPER?

<Janet> we are!

<C_Lion> NOT LONG AT ALL CAK

<Janet> what kind of glue do you like?

<Vaughnde> yes

<C_Lion> I TENS TO MAKE 2 THINGS AT ONCE AND THEY ARE MORE THAN DRY BETWEEN

<cak2> good-I'm impatient

<C_Lion> NOW THERE IS A QUESTION JANET

<anno> 031 is also a butterfly plate...

<Vaughnde> lol

<anno> someday I'ma get that one!

<C_Lion> GLUSE STICKS DON'T SOMETIMES

<C_Lion> YES IS MESSY

<Vaughnde> so best bet is NO glue sticks but some kind of glue?

<C_Lion> I USE GLUE STICKS IF I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT FLEXING

<C_Lion> YES IF IT HAS TO TAKE ABUSE

<Janet> i like spray adhesives but they are messy

<Janet> (but they smell so good)

<Vaughnde> lol

<Vyx> rotf @ Janet

<C_Lion> AND THEN THERE IS XYRON

<Vaughnde> not in my house they don't

<C_Lion> AND LIQUID GLUE

<MomCat> double stick tape

<C_Lion> DEPENDS ON HTE USE FOR ME

<Vyx> I like double stick tape myself

<evey71> mmmm I found it? tucked up above the tab key-I felt sure I ahould have one?

lory thinks the spray adhesive smelling might explain alot

<Vaughnde> I need more double stick tape...I'm totally out

<Vaughnde> thats ok evey

<C_Lion> FOR LAYERING GLUE STICKS WORK UNLESS THERE IS A FINISH ON THE PAPER

<cak2> These look like they've got some dimension though--do you just glue the butterfly down at the body?

<C_Lion> OK - ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THE LAYERS?

<C_Lion> NO CAK

<Vaughnde> nope....

<C_Lion> THAT IS THE NEXT PART

<C_Lion> NOW EACH OF YOU BUTTERFLYS HAS 4 WINGS

<C_Lion> 2 TOP ONES AND 2 BOTTOM ONES

<Angel> Cindy..i missed most of your class..sorry..

<Angel> can someone send me the instructions?

<C_Lion> 'SOK ANGEL MAIL ME FOR AN INSTRUCTION SHEET

<C_Lion> SASE

<Angel> ok

<Vaughnde> (ahhh better....hadda change chairs...back was killin' me)

<C_Lion> OK SO PICK UP HTE BUTTERFLY AND HOD IT BY ONE TOP WING NEAR THE BODY

<Janet> (keep moving it to entertain the cats)

<C_Lion> WITH OTHER HAND HOLD WING BETWEEN THUMB AND FOREFINGER

<Vaughnde> (no wheels on these chairs...sorry)

<C_Lion> THUMB ON TOP

<C_Lion> GENTLY PULL TOWARD THE END OF THE WING WHILE TURNING IT A BIT ON FINGER

<Vaughnde> ok...so you are saying both hands on each wing of the butterfly...top ones?

<C_Lion> KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU DO TO A CURLING RIBBON

<C_Lion> ONE WING AT A TIME

<Vaughnde> ok got it

<Vaughnde> (visual learner here)

<C_Lion> HOLD THE BASE OF ONE WING WITH LEFT HAND AND CURL WITH RIGHT

<C_Lion> DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO EVERYONE?

<Vaughnde> yeah much more sense now

<Vyx> Sure, you are giving the wings some shape

<C_Lion> GENTLY - NO PULLING THEIR WEE WINGS OFF

<cak2> lol

<Vaughnde> lol

<Janet> I've pulled the wee wings off before. and those danged antennae

<C_Lion> NOW THE BOTTOM WINGS ARE A BIT HARDER, i USE A BIG SHARPIE PEN AND SHAPE THEM AROUND IT

<C_Lion> TRICK - I CUT THE ANTENNAE OUT AFTER ALL THE CURLING

<MomCat> I bet Big Blue would work for that!

<C_Lion> YOU WANT TO SHAPE THE BOTTOM WINGS TOWARD THE LOWER CORNERS OF THE MOUNTS

<cak2> (*good* trick! never would have thought of that)

<Janet> OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

<C_Lion> ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CURLS?

<Janet> (I hate those danged antennae, next time I'm not cutting them out until last)

<Janet> I'm solid on the curling

<cak2> just work it til they look good but before you destroy the wings?

<C_Lion> OK, NOW CUT OUT THE ANTENNAE AND GIVE THEM JUST A WEE CURL UP

<C_Lion> YES CAK

<Vaughnde> lol

<Janet> and I may be better on the antennae now. usually I cut the suckers off and replace 'em with wire. lol

<Vaughnde> sounds like a good idea

<C_Lion> TRY IT ON A FEW BITS OF APER FIRST

<C_Lion> LOL

<Vaughnde> sounds like you Janet

<C_Lion> OK NOW FOR MOUNTING THE BUTTERFLY

<Janet> patience is not my strong suit

<Vaughnde> like typing paper?

<Janet> hey, Red.

<Vaughnde> practice makes perfect and that sorta thing?

<deb> http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/stamps.html

<Vaughnde> Hi Red

<C_Lion> I USE DOUBLE BACKED FLAT TAPE FOR THE BODY

Redstick goes and hides quietly in the corner...sorry that's she's late

Redstick waves "Hi" to Janet

Redstick waves "Hi" to Vaughnde

<C_Lion> 'SOK REDSTICK JUST HAVE A PENCIL READY

<TheQueen> RED!

Redstick waves "Hi" to C_Lion

<Janet> (Red is quiet and polite, but I'm not)

Redstick gets her pencil

<C_Lion> THEN i USE MOUNTING TAPE FOR UNDER THE CURL OF EACH WING

Redstick curtsies to DaQueen

<Janet> ohhhhh cool!

<C_Lion> I PREFER A THINK PICE DOUBLED BACK ON ITSELF

<C_Lion> PIECE

<C_Lion> A THIN PIECE DOUBLED BACK ON ITSELF - SHEESH

<cak2> is this the thicker-than-regular-tape stuff like popdots?

<C_Lion> AND VOILE'

<C_Lion> IT IS THE 3M TAPE WITH THE GREEN CHECKED BACKGROUND

<C_Lion> IT IS WHITE FOAM STUFF

<C_Lion> COMES IN A ROLL

<Vyx> Oh I know what you mean. Like for mounting mirrors and such.

<Vaughnde> the kind you can get in any statinery store

<cak2> Yeah! I know that stuff--

<C_Lion> YOU WANT TO USE A TAPE THAT HAS A BIT OF RAISING POWER

<Redstick> Wow! These look like cloissone'!

<C_Lion> ADN MAKE IT SMALL SO YOU DO NOT SEE IT HIDING IN THERE

<C_Lion> TY REDSTICK

<C_Lion> I ALSO REALLY WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL RECEPTION I HAVE HAD ON DM

<Redstick> **really** pretty <s>

<Janet> You teach us your tricks. :)

<C_Lion> LOL

<deb> this is awesome

<deb> thanks C_Lion

<C_Lion> I HAD TO PROMISE NOT TO SHOW YOU ONE TRICK YET

<MomCat> Thank you for being here, C_Lion

<Janet> the biggest one for me was to cut the danged antennae out last

<C_Lion> LOL

<Janet> you got one more?

<cak2> Thank *you* so much--very very lovely (and easy thanks to your generosity in teaching)

<Vyx> This was a really great class!

Janet shakes c lion upside down for the hidden trick

<Vaughnde> the biggest tip was for me to take the peice of cardstock to the store for layering purposes

<Vaughnde> I love this class...you did a wonderful job teaching Cindy

<C_Lion> I PROMISE ONCE THE ARTICLE IS WRITTEN I WILL TEACH THE 'TRICK' HERE FIRST

<Janet> Okay. DEAL.

<Vaughnde> coolio!

<C_Lion> ONE MORE QUESTION I HAVE FOR ALL OF YOU

<MomCat> yes?

<cindyc> cindy's make great teachers...

<deb> now who wants to teach us something on Sat.a nite?

<Vaughnde> shoot

<Vaughnde> lol cindyc

<Janet> they sure do!

<lory> thanks cindy

<C_Lion> BRENDA WANTS ME TO TEACH A CLASS ON MOUNTING OR LAYERING

<Janet> Oh yes, I do too!

<deb> I have to find a fill in class for Sat .nite

<Vaughnde> layering sounds good to me

<cak2> I think you should teach both!

<Janet> I'm layering-impaired for sure.

<C_Lion> I WONDER WHAT YOU ALL WOULD THINK ABOUT SENDING ME A SAMPLE PIECE OF ART FOR ME TO LAYER

<Vaughnde> I've been learning as I go...

<Janet> I will!

<C_Lion> SO WE COULD DO KIND OF A CLINIC?

<Vaughnde> Sure thing! I can do that

<Janet> If I send you a painting, you'll layer it?

<C_Lion> LOL

<Vaughnde> I been coloring in stamped pieces this week with radiant pearls

<evey71> for Sat

MomCat remembers C_Lion saying she would teach how to choose colors for layering during a convention

<C_Lion> SMALL JANET, SMALL

<Janet> seriously.

<Janet> well, this IS small. small stamped watercolor

<Vaughnde> lol Janet

<C_Lion> YES I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT ALOT MOM, HOW IT WOULD WORK BEST

<cak2> sounds like a good thing--compare what I can do and see what else can be done (I get stuck in a rut)

<Vaughnde> now that sounds cool Janet

<Vaughnde> I think all of us do Cak

<Janet> it's lovely. but I just stuck it on a card, it needs more presentation

<C_Lion> LET ME WORK OUT SOME DETAILS AND SEE IF I CAN GET SOME PAPERS DONATED

lory has been in a rut so long..she is thinking of decorating it

<MomCat> C_ If you do this for our regular class

<Vaughnde> lol lory

<TheQueen> lol lory

<C_Lion> YES MOM?

<Janet> I installed a refrigerator in my rut

<MomCat> you can re-use the samples for a convention

<Vaughnde> that is true momcat

<C_Lion> NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND

<Janet> well we'll want a repeat for convention week. :)

<MomCat> I do the 2 color classes and janet does basic water color every convention

<C_Lion> OH I SEE

<C_Lion> OK

<Janet> we can't get enough :)

<C_Lion> LOL

<C_Lion> DID EVERYONE GET MY ADDRESS FOR A COPY OF INSTRUCTIONS?

<Vaughnde> yeap

<Janet> I did.

<Janet> and can I send you this watercolor with my SASE?

<C_Lion> you could try

<Janet> she's purty. for real.

<MomCat> We are gradually building a sort of "curriculum"

<C_Lion> OK SNED ME AN SASE SO I CAN GET IT BACK TO YOU

<Janet> I'll show her URL but you can't layer her if she's just on a web page.

<MomCat> and we get newbies every convenion who need the basics

<C_Lion> JANET, I ALSO NEED TO TALK TO YOU AFTER

<Janet> you teach me how to layer her nice and you can keep her. It's only fair. I can always paint more.

<cak2> (not to mention the oldies who need the basics)

<MomCat> C_Lion, give your snail again please?

<C_Lion> OK

<C_Lion> C.LION

<C_Lion> 11115 60TH ST NE

<C_Lion> LAKE STEVENS, WA 98258

<Vaughnde> lake stevens sounds like a great town

<Vaughnde> but then I only know certain areas of Washington lol

<C_Lion> IT IS 40 MILES NE OF SEATTLE

<Janet> it does sound really pretty.

<Janet> it sounds wet. and wet sounds lovely

<Vaughnde> yikes...at least its away from the rush hour traffic

<C_Lion> I LOVE IT HAVE 3900 SQ FT ON 5 ACRES

<Vaughnde> coolio...homesteading?

<Vyx> WOW

<Janet> room enough for me to move in. :)

<C_Lion> NO RESTORING A DISASTER AREA

<cindyc> and the rest of us too...

<Vaughnde> disaster area?

<C_Lion> ME THE ROOMIE A DOG AND 17 CATS

<Vaughnde> wow 17 cats!

<C_Lion> caps off now

<Janet> (strangely enough, I turned a brand new home into a disaster area. coincidence?)

<Vaughnde> lol Janet

<cindyc> lol

<cindyc> sounds like my studio.....

<C_Lion> the people who lived here had 9 kids

<C_Lion> 7 boys and carpeted bathrooms

<Vaughnde> ouch

<Janet> oops

<Vaughnde> ewwwww

<Vyx> Oh yikes ugh

<deb> anyone have an idea for class Sat. nite??

<C_Lion> holes in every wall

<Vaughnde> I can imagine the pulling of the carpets

<Vaughnde> so you are buying the property?

<C_Lion> CAK?

<C_Lion> yes will be paid for in 2004

<Janet> yay!

<Vaughnde> ok...today is tuesday

<Vyx> wow

<Vaughnde> alright

<Vaughnde> that is good news cindy

<cak2> yes?

<MomCat> Not I, Deb

<C_Lion> you can see pics of craftroom on my website

<Vaughnde> I doubt I will have samples up before then since I can't get to a scanner anymore

<C_Lion> yes you can get the images off th e site

<Janet> want to see the watercolor I want c lion to layer for me?

<Vaughnde> yes

<cak2> Ah! thanks!

<C_Lion> yes

<MomCat> yes!

<cindyc> i do

<cak2> (I always need to get permission)

<Janet> http://dm.net/~janet/opheliacard.jpg

<Janet> she's very pretty. but she needs more presentation than just the oval template and slapping on a piece of cardstock

<Vaughnde> wow

<Vaughnde> she is really pretty

<Vaughnde> keep the oval...but add a few more layers to it

<C_Lion> http://www.geocities.com/~purringfox/remodel_craft_room.html

<C_Lion> waiting for it to load

<Janet> bingo, Jessica. that's where I get stuck. that "adding layers" part

<C_Lion> janet, what do you see as the most important part of the image?

<Vaughnde> You can add layers in colors in tandem with the colors you use in the painting

<Janet> oh and the next one I'm going to take a tissue to the ink on the face, I think that is too dark

<deb> ok - gotta go - have a kid I'm goona have to clobber

<deb> nite

<evey71> who knows a good place to buy luminere paints?

<Janet> I think the seaweed. at least in my head that's the most important part. visually I'm not so sure

<C_Lion> nite deb

<Vaughnde> nite deb

<Janet> I do, Evey!

<Janet> Go to www.jhone.com

<Kriztina> justjhone has em

<C_Lion> the green?

<Janet> that's Just Jhone in the mall

<Janet> she's got 'em at a good price.

<Vaughnde> lol

<C_Lion> hi kriz

<Vaughnde> now thats what I call quick answers

<Janet> www.jhone.com is her main site and is faster to type than http://crafts.dm.net/mall/justjhone.html

<C_Lion> ok janet, send it and I will do my best

<Janet> yeah, I think. or really the concept of the seaweed

<C_Lion> DO NOT FORGET THE CLASS SPECIAL

<Janet> it's important to me in showing ophelia

<C_Lion> I understand

<C_Lion> how big is it?

<Janet> (that's a stampsmith stamp, by the way, she's in the mall, too)

<evey71> TY janet

<Janet> that's how big, that's a 5 1/2 x 4 1/4" card she's on

<Kriztina> hi clion btw

<Janet> she's a good sized girl

<C_Lion> not a problem for layering tho

<Vyx> Gotta go now. Great Class C_Lion! Thanks!

<cak2> I could see emphasizing watery stuff too

<cak2> night Vyx

<Janet> take care, Vyx. you doing okay?

<MomCat> nite

<C_Lion> thanks all fgor making this so much fun

<Vyx> g'night y'all

<Janet> I'd put her on a blue watercolor wash first, and it was just too much activity for my tastes

<cindyc> great job C

<MomCat> Thank you for a great class

<Kriztina> hope she's ok

<evey71> Glad there isn't any sqiggly things Janet :} TY again

<cak2> hmmm-how about a blue vellum?

<C_Lion> redstick did you get the addy for instructions?

<Janet> blue vellum might be good. I think I have some in my stash even

<Redstick> Yes, C_Lion....thanks!

<Angel> Cindy. those samples are beautiful! I like the blue and purple ones..they are really pretty/..

<cak2> (not to second guess Ms CL)

<Janet> I am gonna wipe the ink off the face some, though, I don't like all the ink on her cheeks

<cak2> I need the practice in thinking/planning this stuff

<Vaughnde> great website about your stamp/craft room clion

<C_Lion> maybe a subtle alcohol background with a green one on top, have ot look

<Janet> I even thought about getting some moss and gluing moss down around her

<Angel> that butterfly stamp is from Magenta?

<Janet> ooo that would be cool, too

<cak2> can you take off ink when it's dry or are you going to do another one?

<Janet> I'm going to do another one. I love rubber stamps. :)

<evey71> I must away, thanks for the ideas and sites and thanks Teach for the inspiration. Have one G/daighter hanging out for something to eat

<C_Lion> the bottom one is angel the other 2 are Appaloosa

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