brenda> hey charlatte
<benson> THE charlotte?
<Janet> THE Charlotte.
<Charlatte> Hi!
<Ida> Hi Charelotte..see you made it
<MaggieB> gg charlatte!
<MaggieB> THE charlatte!
<Charlatte> Is there a THE?
<whitney> hi charlotte!
<benson> only one THE..
<Charlatte> Hi Whitney....and thanks.
<whitney> you are so welcome!
<Janet> So tell us about the box?
<Janet> (I knew if Whit liked it, it must be totally awesome, she's highly critical of her own gorgeous work)
<Charlatte> With Charlotte CAK and
<Charlatte> charlatte ggd....maybe Id better change my nick1
<deb> hey charlotte
<cak> (don't do it for me--it's nice to be in a crowd for a change)
<whitney> ok--this box is gorgeous
<whitney> i used the medium book box from AAS
Janet hands Whitney the capital hate
<Janet> hat too
<cak> any pics Whitney?
<whitney> OK--MEDIUM BOOK BOX FROM AAS
<Janet> i love those book boxes
<Charlatte> Help...I'm already lost...is there a URL?
<Janet> (not yet, cak, in a few days)
<cak> gotcha!
<whitney> CHARLOTTE, I'M RE-TEACHING THIS AGAIN THIS WEEK
<whitney> I'VE HAD SOME E-MAIL PROBLEMS AND A PUTER MELTDOWN IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS
<whitney> THEN I'LL HAVE A URL EVEN!
<Charlatte> That's three people with computer woes.....hope you didn't all catch it from me!
<Janet> you're a carrier, Charlatte <whitney> I THINK MINE ARE BETTER, EXCEPT FOR E-MAIL NOW
<brendab> lol
<whitney> THANK GOODNESS FOR THE OLD-FASHIONED PHONE
<Charlatte> Cyber typhoid Charlotte?
<brendab> roflol
<whitney> SO YOU TAKE THE BOOK BOX AND PAINT IT WITH THAT GORGEOUS OLIVE
GREEN LUMIERE
<Janet> oooo I got some of that!
<brendab> whit what is a book box
<brendab> paper mache?
<Ida> OH!Oh! Better not open any more mail from Char
<cak> (I was just going to ask that brenda)
<whitney> IT LLOKS LIKE A BOOK AND OPENS TO BE A BOX
<whitney> YOU CAN SEE THEM ON THE AAS WEBSITE
<brendab> ty
<kat> what is the AAS website
<Janet> I got that URL: http://www.aasimagick.com/products.asp?Category=Paper+Mache
<whitney> TY JANET
<kat> thanks janet
<Janet> (and the lumiere paint at a discount from Jhone at http://www.jhone.com/lumieres.html
)
<Janet> and the stamps on sale this week at http://crafts.dm.net/mall/ggdesigns
<whitney> EVERYTHING I USED YOU CAN GET FROM A MALL VENDOR (I MADE SURE
OF IT)
<brendab> love those lumineires
Janet is the URL queen
<brendab> lol
<whitney> THEN LET DRY AND NOW COMES THE FUN GORGEOUS PART
<Janet> So you painted the box, did you have to put primer or anything
on it first?
<whitney> NOPE, NOT WITH ACRYLIC
<Janet> whew. good deal.
<brendab> wb maggie
<whitney> I KNOW. WITH WOOD CIGAR BOXES, I USE GESSO, BUT NOT WITH PAPER
MACHE
<kat> yes
<MaggieB> geez flying around tonight
<cak> because the wood is more absorbent than paper?
<brendab> what about the paper cigar boxes
<brendab> would you have to gesso them first?
<whitney> ACTUALLY, I THINK THE PAPER WOULD BE MORE ABSORBENT, BUT IT
DOESN'T NEED THE BASE COAT
<brendab> cause of the slickness?
<whitney> BRENDA, I HAVE NEVER DONE A PAPER CIGAR BOX BEFORE
<brendab> ok ty
<Janet> i'd think first you'd need a base coat to cover up the color
underneath, but those lumiere acrylic paints cover anything
<cak> (I've always been confused about base coats--do I or don't I?)
<whitney> TRUE JANET
<whitney> I LOVE MY LUMIERES!
<brendab> yes the lumineires do cover real good
<brendab> ty
<whitney> OK. THE NEXT THING I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN THE MALL CARRIES
(I LIED)
<whitney> BUT YOU CAN BUY IT AT THE GROCERY STORE!
<benson> Char, how'd you figure out how to whisper?..no fair!
<whitney> IT'S SHELF LINER
<brendab> the rubber grip stuff????
<whitney> YES--THAT ONE
<brendab> ty
<whitney> ANY COLOR, ANY CONSISTENCY
<brendab> i have that
<Janet> shelf liner, too cool.
<brendab> ok
<whitney> I BOUGHT MINE AT THE DOLLAR STORE
<brendab> me too
<Janet> (i don't but I think I remember where the grocery store is)
<brendab> lots of colors too
<whitney> SO YOU TAKE A NICE-SIZED PIECE TO FIT ON THE FRONT AND COAT
WITH PIGMENT INK
<kat> janet, me neither
<whitney> I USED CLEAR, BUT YOU CAN USE ANY COLOR
<benson> C.R.A.P.
<Janet> okay, pigment on the shelf paper
<cak> same size as the front Whitney?
<cak> (or does it matter?)
<whitney> THEN YOU CAN EITHER USE THICK EMBOSSING POWDER (UTEE, AMAZING
GLAZE) OR REGULAR EP
<whitney> IF YOU USE REGULAR EP, YOU'LL WANT TO REALLY LOAD UP ON THE
COATS
<brendab> is this stuck on the box yet?
<brendab> or still loose?
<whitney> NO
<brendab> ok ty
<whitney> ACTUALLY, YOU SHOULD BE DOING THE EP IN A FOIL-LINED BOX
<whitney> THANKS FOR REMINDING ME!
<whitney> WITH UTEE, I USE 3 COATS, WITH A REGULAR EP, I USE ABOUT 5-6
<Janet> just a thick coat of EP so far?
<brendab> wb deb
<deb> dang who did that
<brendab> lol
<whitney> YEP, AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SET THAT ASIDE (IT'S A LAYERING
PIECE)
<MaggeeB> geez!
<cak> any particular color Whit--or is clear best?
<cak> (of ep)
<whitney> I USED CLEAR INK AND GOLD EP
<whitney> YOU CAN USE ANY COLOR--DEPENDS ON THE COLORS OF YOUR PIECE
<whitney> I'D LOVE TO DO ONE OF THESE IN SHADES OF PURPLE
<deb> wow everyone's bouncing tonight
<MaggeeB> yeppers
<kat> pam
<kat> kathy's friend
<whitney> OK--NEXT STEP
<whitney> TAKE A SKELETON LEAF--JANET, WHO SELLS THOSE?
<Janet> uhhhh
<kat> where do you keep going
<Janet> let me think
<brendab> wacky i rhink does
<whitney> DOES SUE?
<whitney> YEAH, WACKY I THINK DOES
<deb> Sara expressions does too I think
<whitney> OH COOL
<deb> cause I got some from her
<Janet> okay, so I got a box painted in lumiere paints and a square of
shelf paper all thick with cooked on EP (but these are still separate so far?)
<whitney> RIGHT.
<whitney> WE'RE LAYERING
<Janet> oh yes, Sara does and Wacky Wagon does.
<Janet> oh good. (I'm so easily confuzled)
<whitney> THEN YOU TAKE YOUR SKELETON LEAF AND DO THE SAME THING AS THE
SHELF LINER
<brendab> wow
<whitney> COAT WITH INK, MANY COATS OF EP
<whitney> IT TURNS OUT BEAUTIFUL (I SWEAR)
<whitney> I CAN
<cak> oooo I never thought about ep'ing skeleton leaves
<brendab> it sounds gorgeous
<whitney> NOT WAIT FOR Y'ALL TO SEE THE PICTURES
<MaggieB> can i ask how you coat fully with ep, and hold onto it but
not leave marks?
<brendab> me neither cak
<whitney> MAGGIE, I HELD ONTO THE STEM
<brendab> stem?????
<Ida> How do you apply your embossing ink?
<MaggieB> but not all have stems
<brendab> use the daubers maybe
<whitney> TAKE THAT PAD AND THWAP IT ON THE LEAF
<Janet> like on a scrap paper, then move it to coat it with the EP
<whitney> MAGGIE, IF NO STEM, I'D USE TWEEZERS
<whitney> YES
<Ida> ok
<MaggieB> i always look at these items fully coated in EP and wonder
how they got them so perfect
<Janet> okay, got it.
<benson> tweezers, maggie
<Janet> (I just keep melting the EP until it looks right, I never get
it right the first time)
<whitney> NOW SET THAT ASIDE (AM I DRIVING YOU CRAZY? LOL)
<MaggieB> and it doesnt show?
<cak> (could you re-heat to get rid of fingerprints?>
<kat> do you want to fill in all the holes in the leaf
<whitney> WHEN YOU TAKE THE TWEEZERS OFF, RE-HEAT THAT PLACE
<whitney> KAT, THE EP PRETTY MUCH DOES WHAT IT WANTS TO
<whitney> THEY'LL ALL TURN OUT DIFFERENT
<brendab> ok
<whitney> IF IT FILLS IN TOO MUCH, THEN TRY ANOTHER
<brendab> this just sounds so neat
<Ida> Do you use fine detail EP
<whitney> SO WE'VE GOT A PAINTED BOX, A SHELF LINER PIECE, A SKELETON
LEAF.
<whitney> NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A METAL PIECE.
<brendab> metal?
<Janet> metal?
<whitney> THE METAL PIECE IS OPTIONAL, ACTUALLY
<whitney> I USED TO TO PERSONALIZE THIS FOR CHARLOTTE
<whitney> IT TO
<Janet> oooo
<brendab> oh my
<whitney> AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN THE MALL SELLS THE ROLLS OF METAL
<Charlatte> What was that about getting personal with Charlotte?
<whitney> ROFL
<Charlatte> > )
<Janet> LOL
<brendab> lol
<whitney> LET'S PUT THIS TOGETHER AND THEN DO THE OPTIONAL PART
<brendab> ok
<Janet> I can't either unless Wacky Wagon does, she sells everything.
(but I know the craft stores in most places carry it)
<whitney> TAKE YOUR BOX, AND PLACE THE SHELF LINER ANYWHERE THAT LOOKS
GOOD TO YOU
<Janet> top, sides anywhere?
<whitney> YEP
<whitney> CUZ YOU'RE GOING TO STAMP AROUND IT
<Ida> Is the shefl liner square just slightly larger than the leaf?
<whitney> IT CAN BE, OR THE LEAF CAN FALL OVER THE EDGES OF THE LINER
<Ida> got it!
<whitney> AFTER YOU HAVE THE SHELF LINER WHERE YOU WANT IT, TAPE IT DOWN
WITH DOUBLE-STICK TAPE
<whitney> THE STRONG DOUBLE-STICK KIND--NOT SCOTCH
<Janet> like carpet tape?
<whitney> THAT WOULD WORK
<brendab> real sticky kind
<whitney> I USED WONDER, OR AHH THAT'S GREAT TAPE
<cak> heat-resistant is not necessary?
<whitney> THOSE ARE MY SUPER STICKY KINDS
<Charlatte> Wonder? AHH ?
<whitney> NO CAK, WE'RE NOT GONNA' COOK THE BOX
<cak> gotcha
<whitney> WONDER TAPE=SUZE WEINBERG'S, AHH=USARTQUEST
<Charlatte> Thanks.
<whitney> SURE
<whitney> NOW, YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE GG DESIGNS' STAMPS FROM ONE OF THE
DESIGN SHEETS (AND I CAN'T FOR THE LIFE OF ME REMEMBER WHICH ONE NOW)
<whitney> HANG ON, LEMME' GO LOOK REAL QUICK
<cak> You know, I kinda like not having the image right here--it makes
me think of different ways this can be done
<Janet> me too. And I bet each of us will make something different
<brendab> those leaves would do great with this technique
<Charlatte> Kind of like RADIO > )
<Janet> Charlatte, when will the new triangle designs be ready? that's
usually like six weeks or so?
<cak> (until we see how great whit's came out and get intimidated)
<Janet> oh yes, and I have lots of leaves.
<brendab> lol yes cak
<Janet> or the texture stamps
<Charlatte> With a little luck....depends on how busy the engraver is.
<brendab> charlotte has new stamps coming out???????
<Charlatte> I will ask for RUSH...not sure it will do any good > (
<Janet> or the design ones that's next to uh what is that next to?
<brendab> there goes the pocket book
<Janet> Yeah, Brenda and you're gonna NEED the new sunflowers.
<Janet> that's today's new one.
<Janet> I NEED those.
<whitney> OK
<brendab> uh oh
<whitney> I TOOK IMAGES FROM TWO DESIGN SHEETS
<whitney> BTDE1 AND BTDE2
<whitney> THE FISH AND THE PETROGLYPH-LOOKING IMAGES
<whitney> I LOVE THESE
<Janet> Ooo I love those, too.
<whitney> AND I GOT LOST LOOKING BECAUSE I'M GONNA HAVE TO BUY THOSE
TRIANGLES
<whitney> (I WAS SHOPPING)
<Janet> (although I was sitting here thinking this would be seriously
cool with the latte cups)
<whitney> OH YES
<Janet> and the pot on the top? and the cups/mugs around the sides
<Janet> and coffee or tea or something inside as a gift
<deb> I need to order the ones that brenda had
<Charlatte> Shill! Shill! Shill! LOVE IT!
<whitney> THIS IS A GREAT BOX, BECAUSE YOU CAN USE ANY STAMPS
<whitney> ANY OF CHARLOTTE'S STAMPS, THAT IS
<whitney> LOL
<Janet> (or my Stampsmith Shakespeare women, make you feel better, Charlatte?
LOL)
<whitney> ROFL
<Charlatte> Yes....thanks.
<whitney> SO I STAMPED THOSE IMAGES RANDOMLY ALL OVER THE BOX IN A DARK
GREEN
<Janet> you COULD decorate it with a buttwipe, even. :)
<whitney> OH! A BUTTWIPE BOX!! GREAT IDEA!
<Charlatte> Is buttwipe your registered trademark Janet?
<brendab> this idea is unlimited
deb is holding out for the snotwad class
<Janet> It's not even my origination, I learned it from Shannon Green
who learned it from someone else who probably learned it from someone else
<Janet> LOL
<Janet> Deb, save 'em. <Janet> you wouldn't even need to use green paint.
Janet ducks
<brendab> lol
<whitney> ROFL!
<deb> lol
<meanmom> all of you are sick and twisted
<meanmom> lol
<brendab> yes we are
<deb> sick and twisted is another class
<Janet> that's why you fit in so well, Stacie dearest.
<Janet> (we need to schedule another twisted class soon)
<whitney> STACIE! WHEN DID YOU GET HERE?
<meanmom> you weren't supposed to tell any one THAT, Janet
<deb> she snuck in the back door
<Janet> LOL
<whitney> I'M CONFUSED NOW--SHE SNUCK IN ON ME
<meanmom> oh hours ago....lol
<whitney> LOL
<whitney> WE NEED TO TALK
<whitney> BUT BACK TO THE STAMPING THOSE IMAGES...
<deb> lol
<whitney> I STAMPED THEM IN DARK GREEN INK (TO MATCH THE PAINT)
<Janet> did they fade into the paint or show up real bright?
<brendab> oh neat idea
<whitney> THEY SHOWED UP!
<Janet> i meant showed up bold, or subtle?
<benson> we're stamping AFTER we layer the liner paper?
<whitney> THEY'RE KINDA' SUBTLE
<whitney> BENSON, YOU COULD STAMP BEFORE, BUT I DID AFTER
<whitney> OF COURSE, I'M ALWAYS CONFUSED AND DOING THINGS BACKWARDS,
THOUGH
<whitney> LOL
<benson> k
<whitney> JUST DON'T PUT THE LEAF ON BEFORE YOU STAMP
<Janet> so for sure stamp before leaf goes on. got it.
<whitney> RIGHT
<whitney> SO AFTER YOU'RE DONE STAMPING, I'D LET THE BOX DRY FOR A WHILE
<whitney> THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO AT THIS POINT IS SMEAR THE INK
<kat> that would be a disaster
<Ida> What kind of inkpad? Dye?
<whitney> THEN YOU TAKE YOUR LEAF AND PLACE IT ON THE SHELF PAPER--I
DID MINE ON A DIAGONAL
<Charlatte> Wouldn't it be fun to have scans of everybody's projects
BEFORE Whitney unveils hers? See how well we followed directions and what a
diverse group!
<whitney> THEN YOU FINISHED, EXCEPT I'VE GOT OPTIONAL THINGS TO DO
<cak> (metal--I wanna hear about the metal personalization)
<benson> metal?
<deb> lol
<whitney> OK
<brendab> me toooooooo
<whitney> I TOOK 36 GAUGE METAL FOIL AND USED MY METAL STAMPS
<whitney> MADE A NAMEPLATE FOR THE FRONT
<whitney> AND PUT IT ON THE FRONT RIGHT-HAND LOWER CORNER
<deb> cool
<brendab> oh neat
deb had to have those metal stamps and have YET to use them
<whitney> AND CHARLOTTE WILL BE GETTING IT FOR A SAMPLE
<Charlatte> Wow......Thank YOu!!!
<Janet> oooo cool!
<whitney> CROSS YOUR FINGERS FOR ME, DEB, AND LET'S HOPE THE BOX I DID
LIKE THIS WILL BE IN SOMERSET
<cak> metal stamps?? like for printing?
<brendab> oh neat
<whitney> I USED DIFFERENT STAMPS, THOUGH, SINCE I DIDN'T HAVE CHARLOTTE'S
YET
<brendab> good luck whitney
<brendab> yes cak
Janet crosses her fingers
<whitney> CAK, THEY'RE CALLED METAL IDENTIFICATION STAMPS
<brendab> i bought some too
<whitney> THANKS BRENDA AND JANET
<whitney> THEY HAVEN'T SENT IT BACK YET! LOL
<Janet> that's an excellent sign.
<kat> how excitin g
<Janet> just remember us when you're famous and published
<whitney> OH! YOU CAN ALSO TAKE A STAMP AND STAMP INTO THE EP ON THE
LEAF WHILE IT'S HOT
<cak> (sign her up for more classes NOW)
<whitney> HEY, I'M PUBLISHED AND I'M STILL HANGING OUT WITH YOU
<Charlatte> You WILL let us all know won't you? So we can be sure to
have the isue and admire your work....again.
<whitney> SURE THING, CHARLOTTE
<Janet> Yeah, but published again and again, sooner or later you're gonna
cut me off the perfect diner hamburger hunting
<whitney> NO WAY
<Janet> (think I found another one in Little Elm)
<whitney> I WILL NEVER STOP LOOKING FOR THE PERFECT HAMBURGER
<whitney> WE STILL HAVE TO HIT GREENVILLE
<Janet> yeah and you'll never find Lobo's Cafe without me LOL
<brendab> greasy hamburger is best
<brendab> but hard to find
<whitney> LOL JANET
<brendab> oh yes
<Lory> can always do the beacon brenda
<Janet> it's in a trailer just the wrong side of lIttle Elm
<brendab> but not any good hamburgers here
<Lory> i love em
<brendab> well yeah or fuddruckers
<whitney> OH COOL A TRAILER EVEN!
<Janet> fudruckers doesn't make it.
<Janet> but Lottaburger in Tulsa might.
<brendab> you can get hollered at at the beacon
<Lory> i holler back
<brendab> everyone loves beacon
<whitney> OK, SO I'M GOING OFF CAPS--ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I DO?
<Janet> Tastee Diner in Bethesda
<deb> wonderful class whitney
<brendab> no
<deb> and THANKS
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