Log file opened at 8/18/01 9:08:26 PM

brenda> hey charlatte

<benson> THE charlotte?

<Janet> THE Charlotte.

<Charlatte> Hi!

<Ida> Hi Charelotte..see you made it

<MaggieB> gg charlatte!

<MaggieB> THE charlatte!

<Charlatte> Is there a THE?

<whitney> hi charlotte!

<benson> only one THE..

<Charlatte> Hi Whitney....and thanks.

<whitney> you are so welcome!

<Janet> So tell us about the box?

<Janet> (I knew if Whit liked it, it must be totally awesome, she's highly critical of her own gorgeous work)

<Charlatte> With Charlotte CAK and

<Charlatte> charlatte ggd....maybe Id better change my nick1

<deb> hey charlotte

<cak> (don't do it for me--it's nice to be in a crowd for a change)

<whitney> ok--this box is gorgeous

<whitney> i used the medium book box from AAS

Janet hands Whitney the capital hate

<Janet> hat too

<cak> any pics Whitney?

<whitney> OK--MEDIUM BOOK BOX FROM AAS

<Janet> i love those book boxes

<Charlatte> Help...I'm already lost...is there a URL?

<Janet> (not yet, cak, in a few days)

<cak> gotcha!

<whitney> CHARLOTTE, I'M RE-TEACHING THIS AGAIN THIS WEEK

<whitney> I'VE HAD SOME E-MAIL PROBLEMS AND A PUTER MELTDOWN IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS

<whitney> THEN I'LL HAVE A URL EVEN!

<Charlatte> That's three people with computer woes.....hope you didn't all catch it from me!

<Janet> you're a carrier, Charlatte

<whitney> I THINK MINE ARE BETTER, EXCEPT FOR E-MAIL NOW

<brendab> lol

<whitney> THANK GOODNESS FOR THE OLD-FASHIONED PHONE

<Charlatte> Cyber typhoid Charlotte?

<brendab> roflol

<whitney> SO YOU TAKE THE BOOK BOX AND PAINT IT WITH THAT GORGEOUS OLIVE GREEN LUMIERE

<Janet> oooo I got some of that!

<brendab> whit what is a book box

<brendab> paper mache?

<Ida> OH!Oh! Better not open any more mail from Char

<cak> (I was just going to ask that brenda)

<whitney> IT LLOKS LIKE A BOOK AND OPENS TO BE A BOX

<whitney> YOU CAN SEE THEM ON THE AAS WEBSITE

<brendab> ty

<kat> what is the AAS website

<Janet> I got that URL: http://www.aasimagick.com/products.asp?Category=Paper+Mache

<whitney> TY JANET

<kat> thanks janet

<Janet> (and the lumiere paint at a discount from Jhone at http://www.jhone.com/lumieres.html )

<Janet> and the stamps on sale this week at http://crafts.dm.net/mall/ggdesigns

<whitney> EVERYTHING I USED YOU CAN GET FROM A MALL VENDOR (I MADE SURE OF IT)

<brendab> love those lumineires

Janet is the URL queen

<brendab> lol

<whitney> THEN LET DRY AND NOW COMES THE FUN GORGEOUS PART

<Janet> So you painted the box, did you have to put primer or anything on it first?

<whitney> NOPE, NOT WITH ACRYLIC

<Janet> whew. good deal.

<brendab> wb maggie

<whitney> I KNOW. WITH WOOD CIGAR BOXES, I USE GESSO, BUT NOT WITH PAPER MACHE

<kat> yes

<MaggieB> geez flying around tonight

<cak> because the wood is more absorbent than paper?

<brendab> what about the paper cigar boxes

<brendab> would you have to gesso them first?

<whitney> ACTUALLY, I THINK THE PAPER WOULD BE MORE ABSORBENT, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED THE BASE COAT

<brendab> cause of the slickness?

<whitney> BRENDA, I HAVE NEVER DONE A PAPER CIGAR BOX BEFORE

<brendab> ok ty

<Janet> i'd think first you'd need a base coat to cover up the color underneath, but those lumiere acrylic paints cover anything

<cak> (I've always been confused about base coats--do I or don't I?)

<whitney> TRUE JANET

<whitney> I LOVE MY LUMIERES!

<brendab> yes the lumineires do cover real good

<brendab> ty

<whitney> OK. THE NEXT THING I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN THE MALL CARRIES (I LIED)

<whitney> BUT YOU CAN BUY IT AT THE GROCERY STORE!

<benson> Char, how'd you figure out how to whisper?..no fair!

<whitney> IT'S SHELF LINER

<brendab> the rubber grip stuff????

<whitney> YES--THAT ONE

<brendab> ty

<whitney> ANY COLOR, ANY CONSISTENCY

<brendab> i have that

<Janet> shelf liner, too cool.

<brendab> ok

<whitney> I BOUGHT MINE AT THE DOLLAR STORE

<brendab> me too

<Janet> (i don't but I think I remember where the grocery store is)

<brendab> lots of colors too

<whitney> SO YOU TAKE A NICE-SIZED PIECE TO FIT ON THE FRONT AND COAT WITH PIGMENT INK

<kat> janet, me neither

<whitney> I USED CLEAR, BUT YOU CAN USE ANY COLOR

<benson> C.R.A.P.

<Janet> okay, pigment on the shelf paper

<cak> same size as the front Whitney?

<cak> (or does it matter?)

<whitney> THEN YOU CAN EITHER USE THICK EMBOSSING POWDER (UTEE, AMAZING GLAZE) OR REGULAR EP

<whitney> IF YOU USE REGULAR EP, YOU'LL WANT TO REALLY LOAD UP ON THE COATS

<brendab> is this stuck on the box yet?

<brendab> or still loose?

<whitney> NO

<brendab> ok ty

<whitney> ACTUALLY, YOU SHOULD BE DOING THE EP IN A FOIL-LINED BOX

<whitney> THANKS FOR REMINDING ME!

<whitney> WITH UTEE, I USE 3 COATS, WITH A REGULAR EP, I USE ABOUT 5-6

<Janet> just a thick coat of EP so far?

<brendab> wb deb

<deb> dang who did that

<brendab> lol

<whitney> YEP, AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SET THAT ASIDE (IT'S A LAYERING PIECE)

<MaggeeB> geez!

<cak> any particular color Whit--or is clear best?

<cak> (of ep)

<whitney> I USED CLEAR INK AND GOLD EP

<whitney> YOU CAN USE ANY COLOR--DEPENDS ON THE COLORS OF YOUR PIECE

<whitney> I'D LOVE TO DO ONE OF THESE IN SHADES OF PURPLE

<deb> wow everyone's bouncing tonight

<MaggeeB> yeppers

<kat> pam

<kat> kathy's friend

<whitney> OK--NEXT STEP

<whitney> TAKE A SKELETON LEAF--JANET, WHO SELLS THOSE?

<Janet> uhhhh

<kat> where do you keep going

<Janet> let me think

<brendab> wacky i rhink does

<whitney> DOES SUE?

<whitney> YEAH, WACKY I THINK DOES

<deb> Sara expressions does too I think

<whitney> OH COOL

<deb> cause I got some from her

<Janet> okay, so I got a box painted in lumiere paints and a square of shelf paper all thick with cooked on EP (but these are still separate so far?)

<whitney> RIGHT.

<whitney> WE'RE LAYERING

<Janet> oh yes, Sara does and Wacky Wagon does.

<Janet> oh good. (I'm so easily confuzled)

<whitney> THEN YOU TAKE YOUR SKELETON LEAF AND DO THE SAME THING AS THE SHELF LINER

<brendab> wow

<whitney> COAT WITH INK, MANY COATS OF EP

<whitney> IT TURNS OUT BEAUTIFUL (I SWEAR)

<whitney> I CAN

<cak> oooo I never thought about ep'ing skeleton leaves

<brendab> it sounds gorgeous

<whitney> NOT WAIT FOR Y'ALL TO SEE THE PICTURES

<MaggieB> can i ask how you coat fully with ep, and hold onto it but not leave marks?

<brendab> me neither cak

<whitney> MAGGIE, I HELD ONTO THE STEM

<brendab> stem?????

<Ida> How do you apply your embossing ink?

<MaggieB> but not all have stems

<brendab> use the daubers maybe

<whitney> TAKE THAT PAD AND THWAP IT ON THE LEAF

<Janet> like on a scrap paper, then move it to coat it with the EP

<whitney> MAGGIE, IF NO STEM, I'D USE TWEEZERS

<whitney> YES

<Ida> ok

<MaggieB> i always look at these items fully coated in EP and wonder how they got them so perfect

<Janet> okay, got it.

<benson> tweezers, maggie

<Janet> (I just keep melting the EP until it looks right, I never get it right the first time)

<whitney> NOW SET THAT ASIDE (AM I DRIVING YOU CRAZY? LOL)

<MaggieB> and it doesnt show?

<cak> (could you re-heat to get rid of fingerprints?>

<kat> do you want to fill in all the holes in the leaf

<whitney> WHEN YOU TAKE THE TWEEZERS OFF, RE-HEAT THAT PLACE

<whitney> KAT, THE EP PRETTY MUCH DOES WHAT IT WANTS TO

<whitney> THEY'LL ALL TURN OUT DIFFERENT

<brendab> ok

<whitney> IF IT FILLS IN TOO MUCH, THEN TRY ANOTHER

<brendab> this just sounds so neat

<Ida> Do you use fine detail EP

<whitney> SO WE'VE GOT A PAINTED BOX, A SHELF LINER PIECE, A SKELETON LEAF.

<whitney> NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A METAL PIECE.

<brendab> metal?

<Janet> metal?

<whitney> THE METAL PIECE IS OPTIONAL, ACTUALLY

<whitney> I USED TO TO PERSONALIZE THIS FOR CHARLOTTE

<whitney> IT TO

<Janet> oooo

<brendab> oh my

<whitney> AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN THE MALL SELLS THE ROLLS OF METAL

<Charlatte> What was that about getting personal with Charlotte?

<whitney> ROFL

<Charlatte> > )

<Janet> LOL

<brendab> lol

<whitney> LET'S PUT THIS TOGETHER AND THEN DO THE OPTIONAL PART

<brendab> ok

<Janet> I can't either unless Wacky Wagon does, she sells everything. (but I know the craft stores in most places carry it)

<whitney> TAKE YOUR BOX, AND PLACE THE SHELF LINER ANYWHERE THAT LOOKS GOOD TO YOU

<Janet> top, sides anywhere?

<whitney> YEP

<whitney> CUZ YOU'RE GOING TO STAMP AROUND IT

<Ida> Is the shefl liner square just slightly larger than the leaf?

<whitney> IT CAN BE, OR THE LEAF CAN FALL OVER THE EDGES OF THE LINER

<Ida> got it!

<whitney> AFTER YOU HAVE THE SHELF LINER WHERE YOU WANT IT, TAPE IT DOWN WITH DOUBLE-STICK TAPE

<whitney> THE STRONG DOUBLE-STICK KIND--NOT SCOTCH

<Janet> like carpet tape?

<whitney> THAT WOULD WORK

<brendab> real sticky kind

<whitney> I USED WONDER, OR AHH THAT'S GREAT TAPE

<cak> heat-resistant is not necessary?

<whitney> THOSE ARE MY SUPER STICKY KINDS

<Charlatte> Wonder? AHH ?

<whitney> NO CAK, WE'RE NOT GONNA' COOK THE BOX

<cak> gotcha

<whitney> WONDER TAPE=SUZE WEINBERG'S, AHH=USARTQUEST

<Charlatte> Thanks.

<whitney> SURE

<whitney> NOW, YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE GG DESIGNS' STAMPS FROM ONE OF THE DESIGN SHEETS (AND I CAN'T FOR THE LIFE OF ME REMEMBER WHICH ONE NOW)

<whitney> HANG ON, LEMME' GO LOOK REAL QUICK

<cak> You know, I kinda like not having the image right here--it makes me think of different ways this can be done

<Janet> me too. And I bet each of us will make something different

<brendab> those leaves would do great with this technique

<Charlatte> Kind of like RADIO > )

<Janet> Charlatte, when will the new triangle designs be ready? that's usually like six weeks or so?

<cak> (until we see how great whit's came out and get intimidated)

<Janet> oh yes, and I have lots of leaves.

<brendab> lol yes cak

<Janet> or the texture stamps

<Charlatte> With a little luck....depends on how busy the engraver is.

<brendab> charlotte has new stamps coming out???????

<Charlatte> I will ask for RUSH...not sure it will do any good > (

<Janet> or the design ones that's next to uh what is that next to?

<brendab> there goes the pocket book

<Janet> Yeah, Brenda and you're gonna NEED the new sunflowers.

<Janet> that's today's new one.

<Janet> I NEED those.

<whitney> OK

<brendab> uh oh

<whitney> I TOOK IMAGES FROM TWO DESIGN SHEETS

<whitney> BTDE1 AND BTDE2

<whitney> THE FISH AND THE PETROGLYPH-LOOKING IMAGES

<whitney> I LOVE THESE

<Janet> Ooo I love those, too.

<whitney> AND I GOT LOST LOOKING BECAUSE I'M GONNA HAVE TO BUY THOSE TRIANGLES

<whitney> (I WAS SHOPPING)

<Janet> (although I was sitting here thinking this would be seriously cool with the latte cups)

<whitney> OH YES

<Janet> and the pot on the top? and the cups/mugs around the sides

<Janet> and coffee or tea or something inside as a gift

<deb> I need to order the ones that brenda had

<Charlatte> Shill! Shill! Shill! LOVE IT!

<whitney> THIS IS A GREAT BOX, BECAUSE YOU CAN USE ANY STAMPS

<whitney> ANY OF CHARLOTTE'S STAMPS, THAT IS

<whitney> LOL

<Janet> (or my Stampsmith Shakespeare women, make you feel better, Charlatte? LOL)

<whitney> ROFL

<Charlatte> Yes....thanks.

<whitney> SO I STAMPED THOSE IMAGES RANDOMLY ALL OVER THE BOX IN A DARK GREEN

<Janet> you COULD decorate it with a buttwipe, even. :)

<whitney> OH! A BUTTWIPE BOX!! GREAT IDEA!

<Charlatte> Is buttwipe your registered trademark Janet?

<brendab> this idea is unlimited

deb is holding out for the snotwad class

<Janet> It's not even my origination, I learned it from Shannon Green who learned it from someone else who probably learned it from someone else

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> Deb, save 'em.

<Janet> you wouldn't even need to use green paint.

Janet ducks

<brendab> lol

<whitney> ROFL!

<deb> lol

<meanmom> all of you are sick and twisted

<meanmom> lol

<brendab> yes we are

<deb> sick and twisted is another class

<Janet> that's why you fit in so well, Stacie dearest.

<Janet> (we need to schedule another twisted class soon)

<whitney> STACIE! WHEN DID YOU GET HERE?

<meanmom> you weren't supposed to tell any one THAT, Janet

<deb> she snuck in the back door

<Janet> LOL

<whitney> I'M CONFUSED NOW--SHE SNUCK IN ON ME

<meanmom> oh hours ago....lol

<whitney> LOL

<whitney> WE NEED TO TALK

<whitney> BUT BACK TO THE STAMPING THOSE IMAGES...

<deb> lol

<whitney> I STAMPED THEM IN DARK GREEN INK (TO MATCH THE PAINT)

<Janet> did they fade into the paint or show up real bright?

<brendab> oh neat idea

<whitney> THEY SHOWED UP!

<Janet> i meant showed up bold, or subtle?

<benson> we're stamping AFTER we layer the liner paper?

<whitney> THEY'RE KINDA' SUBTLE

<whitney> BENSON, YOU COULD STAMP BEFORE, BUT I DID AFTER

<whitney> OF COURSE, I'M ALWAYS CONFUSED AND DOING THINGS BACKWARDS, THOUGH

<whitney> LOL

<benson> k

<whitney> JUST DON'T PUT THE LEAF ON BEFORE YOU STAMP

<Janet> so for sure stamp before leaf goes on. got it.

<whitney> RIGHT

<whitney> SO AFTER YOU'RE DONE STAMPING, I'D LET THE BOX DRY FOR A WHILE

<whitney> THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO AT THIS POINT IS SMEAR THE INK

<kat> that would be a disaster

<Ida> What kind of inkpad? Dye?

<whitney> THEN YOU TAKE YOUR LEAF AND PLACE IT ON THE SHELF PAPER--I DID MINE ON A DIAGONAL

<Charlatte> Wouldn't it be fun to have scans of everybody's projects BEFORE Whitney unveils hers? See how well we followed directions and what a diverse group!

<whitney> THEN YOU FINISHED, EXCEPT I'VE GOT OPTIONAL THINGS TO DO

<cak> (metal--I wanna hear about the metal personalization)

<benson> metal?

<deb> lol

<whitney> OK

<brendab> me toooooooo

<whitney> I TOOK 36 GAUGE METAL FOIL AND USED MY METAL STAMPS

<whitney> MADE A NAMEPLATE FOR THE FRONT

<whitney> AND PUT IT ON THE FRONT RIGHT-HAND LOWER CORNER

<deb> cool

<brendab> oh neat

deb had to have those metal stamps and have YET to use them

<whitney> AND CHARLOTTE WILL BE GETTING IT FOR A SAMPLE

<Charlatte> Wow......Thank YOu!!!

<Janet> oooo cool!

<whitney> CROSS YOUR FINGERS FOR ME, DEB, AND LET'S HOPE THE BOX I DID LIKE THIS WILL BE IN SOMERSET

<cak> metal stamps?? like for printing?

<brendab> oh neat

<whitney> I USED DIFFERENT STAMPS, THOUGH, SINCE I DIDN'T HAVE CHARLOTTE'S YET

<brendab> good luck whitney

<brendab> yes cak

Janet crosses her fingers

<whitney> CAK, THEY'RE CALLED METAL IDENTIFICATION STAMPS

<brendab> i bought some too

<whitney> THANKS BRENDA AND JANET

<whitney> THEY HAVEN'T SENT IT BACK YET! LOL

<Janet> that's an excellent sign.

<kat> how excitin g

<Janet> just remember us when you're famous and published

<whitney> OH! YOU CAN ALSO TAKE A STAMP AND STAMP INTO THE EP ON THE LEAF WHILE IT'S HOT

<cak> (sign her up for more classes NOW)

<whitney> HEY, I'M PUBLISHED AND I'M STILL HANGING OUT WITH YOU

<Charlatte> You WILL let us all know won't you? So we can be sure to have the isue and admire your work....again.

<whitney> SURE THING, CHARLOTTE

<Janet> Yeah, but published again and again, sooner or later you're gonna cut me off the perfect diner hamburger hunting

<whitney> NO WAY

<Janet> (think I found another one in Little Elm)

<whitney> I WILL NEVER STOP LOOKING FOR THE PERFECT HAMBURGER

<whitney> WE STILL HAVE TO HIT GREENVILLE

<Janet> yeah and you'll never find Lobo's Cafe without me LOL

<brendab> greasy hamburger is best

<brendab> but hard to find

<whitney> LOL JANET

<brendab> oh yes

<Lory> can always do the beacon brenda

<Janet> it's in a trailer just the wrong side of lIttle Elm

<brendab> but not any good hamburgers here

<Lory> i love em

<brendab> well yeah or fuddruckers

<whitney> OH COOL A TRAILER EVEN!

<Janet> fudruckers doesn't make it.

<Janet> but Lottaburger in Tulsa might.

<brendab> you can get hollered at at the beacon

<Lory> i holler back

<brendab> everyone loves beacon

<whitney> OK, SO I'M GOING OFF CAPS--ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I DO?

<Janet> Tastee Diner in Bethesda

<deb> wonderful class whitney

<brendab> no

<deb> and THANKS

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