<MaggieB> you do THAT with the Hot Pot??

<sparkle> uh, no

<sparkle> class has been changed

<sparkle> hot pot is later

<MaggieB> ohhhhh

<sparkle> tonight is intro to glass fusing

<MaggieB> k

<MaggieB> thats cool

<MaggieB> just geared up for hot pot

<MaggieB> i will live

<MaggieB> want to see this too!

<sparkle> we'll do hot pot next month

<MaggieB> ok

<MaggieB> where it says glass fusing???

<MaggieB> lol

<sparkle> lemme grab something to drink and I'll be right back

<RubberRabb> glass fusing??

<MaggieB> that is what the lady said

<MaggieB> pulled a switcheroo

<RubberRabb> I gotta go see this one..

<RubberRabb> brb

<MaggieB> hopping like you!

<Lory> hey rabbit

<Janet> Lory, you're home now?

<Lory> yes maam, alll wired up

<Janet> kewlness

<RubberRabb> Sorry Lorymom I was out looking at the class page

<RubberRabb> Hi Lorymom!

<MaggieB> anyone watch carol duval yesterday?

<Lory> thats ok my darlin daughter

<MaggieB> making paper with tissue paper, gesso, and paint?

<MaggieB> oh and glad wrap

<RubberRabb> oh, yeah, that is a repeat from earlier this season

<MaggieB> yes

<RubberRabb> pretty cool though

<MaggieB> i missed it the 1st time

<RubberRabb> haven't done it yet--have you?

<sparkle> OK, I'M BACK

<RubberRabb> Hi back!

<sparkle> EVERYONE READY TO ABSORB THE LITTLE i KNOW?

<MaggieB> no thougt i might tomorrow

<MaggieB> sure!

<Janet> I am!

<MaggieB> you know LOTS more than me!

<RubberRabb> scary stuff glass

Lory ready to be lectured to

<sparkle> OK...FIRST, I'M GONNA LIST THE TOOLS AND STUFF ('CAUSE i DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO LIST 'EM ON THE WEBSITE)

Raven goes into sponge mode

<sparkle> FIRST> COMPATIBLE GLASS

<sparkle> THIS MEANS THAT YOU HAVE GLASS THAT IS TESTED TO HAVE COMPATIBLE (ACTUALLY THE SAME) COEFFICIENTS OF EXPANSION

<Janet> COE

<sparkle> OTHERWISE WHEN YOU HEAT IT IN THE KILN, IT'LL CRACK AND/OR EXPLODE

<sparkle> DESTROYING EVERYTHING ELSE IN TEH KILN

<sparkle> THAT'S A BAD THING

<MaggieB> so they know this at the glass store?

<sparkle> YES

<sparkle> THEY KNOW THIS AT THE GLASS STORE

<Lory> and i am assuming that someone will tell us this

<RubberRabb> does glass have this on it somewhere?

<MaggieB> they all have to be the same?

<sparkle> DIFFERENT BRANDS ARE DIFFERENT COE

<sparkle> BULLSEYE, FOR INSTANCE, IS COE 90

<MaggieB> so get all the same

<sparkle> YES, GET ALL THE SAME

<RubberRabb> so no playing with someone else's leftover scraps, huh..

<sparkle> THE MORETTI I HAVE LEFTOVER FROM MY LAMPWORKING CLASS IS (I THINK) 104

<MaggieB> one of those times when mix and match is NOT good then

<sparkle> ACTUALLY, AS LONG AS YOU KNOW WHAT THE SCRAPS ARE, YOU CAN USE OTHERS LEFTOVERS.

<sparkle> I JUST GOT 25LBS OF BLACK COE 90 SCRAP ON EBAY

<Janet> ooooo

<MaggieB> buying glass on auction now?

<sparkle> YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW WHAT COE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

<RubberRabb> is this an expensive hobby, sparkle?

<MaggieB> you can buy ANYTHING on eBay!

<sparkle> OH..YES!!!

<sparkle> IT IS AN EXPENSIVE HOBBY

<sparkle> GLASS IS RETAIL $8 A LB

<RubberRabb> oh, good

<sparkle> OR ABOUT $1/SQ INCH

<RubberRabb> means I can just sit and listen! LOL

<sparkle> LOL

<sparkle> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO

<sparkle> <g>

<Raven> 25 POUNDS?

<MaggieB> no wonder you dont through any away!

<sparkle> OK, SO YOU'VE DETERMINED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE BULLSEYE 90 COE GLASS AND OTHER COMPATIBLE GLASS

<Janet> this is something I've always wanted to do

<sparkle> SO, NOW YOU NEED TOOLS

<sparkle> A GLASS CUTTER WITH CUTTING OIL

<MaggieB> janet..... is there anything you HAVENT wanted to do???

<sparkle> GLASS PLIERS

<sparkle> A KILN (THAT'S THE FUN PART)

<sparkle> A GRINDER

<Janet> uhhhh the pentathelon

<sparkle> FIBER PAPER

<sparkle> DUST MASK

<MaggieB> are these pliers made to not scratch glass?

<sparkle> NO, THEY'LL SCRATCH

<sparkle> THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT KINDS OF PLIERS

<sparkle> THERE ARE RUNNIGN PLIERS (THERE'S A PICTURE OF THOSE ON TEH WEB PAGE)

<sparkle> THEY ARE USED FOR BREAKING DOWN A SCORED PIECE OF GLASS

<sparkle> AND THERE ARE GROZING PLIERS THAT HAVE VERY SMALL TEETH AND ARE USED FOR BREAKING OF PIECES OF GLASS WHEN YOU SCREW UP THE CUT

<sparkle> (UH, NOT THAT I'VE EVER NEEDED THOSE)

<MaggieB> lol

<sparkle> OH, AND KILN WASH/GLASS SEPARATER TO PREP YOUR KILN SHELF SO THE GLASS COMES OFF WHEN IT'S DONE

<sparkle> THOSE ARE THE BASIC TOOLS YOU NEED.

<MaggieB> do you have a kilm>

<sparkle> OTHER NICE TOOLS INCLUDE THE MORTON GLASS WORKSHOP, WHICH IS ESSENTIALL A CUTTING BOARD WITH A STRAIGHT EDGE AND RULER

<MaggieB> kiln?

<sparkle> KILN IS SHIPPNG THIS WEEK <g>

<MaggieB> oh MY!

<MaggieB> you ARE hooked!

<sparkle> LOL

<Raven> did you get a table grinder? That it the COOLEST of the tools

<sparkle> ROFL..I DID!

<sparkle> IT'S STILL IN ITS BOX THOUGH

<sparkle> THEY'RE VERY HANDY

<sparkle> NEXT ON TEH LIST IS A BAND SAW FOR CUTTING GLASS SHAPES

<Raven> SO fun to play with.... and the only diamonds i'll ever have ;-)

<MaggieB> full workshop!

<sparkle> (KEEPING IN MIND THAT CUTTING GLASS REQUIRES USING WATER)

<sparkle> YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THE BORING PREP STUFF

<Raven> okay.... I have 2 band saws but niether cts glass.... special saw or just a special blade???

<sparkle> PREPARING THE KILN SHELF WITH KILN WASH

<sparkle> IT TAKES MULTIPLE COATS FOR A GOOD LAYER

<sparkle> IT'S A SPECIAL SAW RAVEN, WITH A TUB OF WATER THAT KEEPS THE BLADE COOL

<sparkle> SO, AFTER YOU'VE COATED TEH KILN SHELF AND SET IT ASIDE TO DRY, YOU CAN START CUTTING GLASS

<sparkle> WITH THE GLASS CUTTER, YOU MAKE ONE DOWNWARD STROKE

<sparkle> YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND FORTH OR YOU DON'T GET A CLEAN CUT

<sparkle> I HAVEN'T QUITE FIGURED OUT THE PHYSICS OF THAT

<sparkle> BUT I TESTED THE THEORY

<sparkle> AND IT'S TRUE

<sparkle> :-(

<MaggieB> must be the molecular makeup of the glass

<sparkle> SOME SCIENCE THING MAGGIE

<sparkle> <g>

<sparkle> SO, AFTER YOU SCORE IT, YOU TAKE THE END OF THE SCORING TOOL AND YOU GET TO "CRAZE" THE GLASS

<sparkle> ITS A VERY NOISY PROCESS <g> BUT IT BASICALLY INSURES THE GLASS BREAKS CLEANLY

<sparkle> IF YOU FORGET TO CRAZE THE SCORE, YOU DON'T GET A CLEAN CUT

<sparkle> AFTER CRAZING, YOU CAN EITHER JUST BREAK THE GLASS

<sparkle> OR GRAB THE RUNNING PLIERS

<sparkle> THEY'VE GOT A CENTERING MARK ON THEM THAT YOU LINE UP WITH THE SCORE MARK

<sparkle> AND JUST SQUEEZE

<sparkle> AND IF YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING CORRECTLY, IT BREAKS IN THE STRAIGHT LINE YOU SCORED

<Janet> how do you craze?

<sparkle> IF NOT, YOU USE THE BREAKING/GROZING PLIERS TO CLEAN IT UP

<sparkle> OH, YOU JUST TAPPA TAPPA TAPPA DOWN THE SCORE MARK

<MaggieB> fancy name for tapping??

<sparkle> ROFL..PROLLY

<sparkle> SO, UM, YOU CUT THE GLASS THE WAY YOU WANT

<sparkle> LAYER IT AND COOK IT IN THE KILN

<sparkle> IT'S THAT EASY...AND THAT HARD!

<sparkle> ROFL

<sparkle> THERE ARE SOME THINGS ABOUT GLASS THAT MAKE IT FUN.

<sparkle> WHEN IT'S MOLTEN, IT PUDDLES DOWN TO ABOUT 1/4" THICK

<sparkle> SO IF YOU HAVE LOTS OF LAYERS, YOU HAVE TO ALLOW ROOM IN THE KILN FOR SOME SPREADING OUT

<Raven> hmmm... I need to find an assortment on ebay with matched glass in black, dichrois and clear

<sparkle> THERE ARE 3 DIFFERENT "FUSINGS"

<Raven> wonder if my hopes are too high?

<sparkle> THERE'S TACK FUSING WHICH BASICALLY MEANS YOU'RE MELTING THE GLASS ENOUGH SO IT STICKS TOGETHER

<sparkle> THERE'S PARTIAL FUSING, WHICH MELDS THE TWO PIECES TOGETHER

<sparkle> AND FULL FUSING, WHICH THEY MELT DOWN INTO A MERGED PIECE OF GLASS

<sparkle> YOU CAN USE **SPARINGLY** WHITE GLUE TO HOLD THINGS TOGETHER

<sparkle> YOU HAVE TO USE IT AROUND THE EDGE SO TAHT THE GLUE BURNS OFF AND DOESN'T GET TRAPPED IN THE LAYERS

<sparkle> AFTER YOU'VE FIRED THE GLASS, IT NEEDS TO BE ANNEALED

<sparkle> ANNEALING RELEIEVES THE STRESS CAUSED IN TEH FIRING PROCESS

Lory notes that there is a whole new language to learn

<sparkle> BETWEEN 800 + 1000 GLASS IS AT ITS MOLECULARLY MOST FRAGILE STAGE, THIS IS WHEN I'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED NOT TO OPEN THE KILN AND PEEK

<sparkle> SOME BIG PIECES HAVE TO ANNEAL A LONG TIME

<sparkle> I WAS READING ABOUT ONE PIECE BEING MADE

<sparkle> A SOLID SPHERE OF GLASS, THAT HAD TO ANNEAL OVER A 27 DAY PERIOD

<Janet> yikes

<Janet> i'd never make it not peeking

<sparkle> LOL..I WOULDN'T EITHER

<sparkle> ONE OF THE INTERSTING THINGS WE LEARNED IS THAT GLASS ISN'T REALLY A SOLID

<sparkle> IF YOU STAND A PIECE OF GLASS ON END...LIKE A WINDOW...

<sparkle> OVER TIME, EXPOSED TO SUNLIGHT, THE GLASS WILL SLOWLY THIN AT THE TOP AS IT IS PULLED BY GRAVITY TO THE BOTTOM OF THE WINDOW

<cak> (actually, I think that's an old wives' tale--

<sparkle> NO, WE WENT AND MEASURED THE STORE WINDOWS

<sparkle> 'CAUSE THEY'RE OLD <g>

<sparkle> AND THEY ARE MARGINALLY THINNER AT THE TOP

<sparkle> THEY'RE OLD GLASS THOUGH

<cak> (it's an artifact of the way they used to make panes of glass--they spun thme)

<sparkle> NONE OF THIS FANCY STUFF

<MaggieB> how could you measure the thickness???

<sparkle> WITH A CALIPER

<sparkle> ON THE OPEN WINDOWS

<MaggieB> oh.ok

<Raven> It's true... I read that someplace.... glass is a liquid, after all

<sparkle> YESH, I DON'T THINK THE ROLLED GLASS DOES THAT..

<MaggieB> i should have known sparkle would have CALIPERS at the store! lol

<sparkle> ROFL

<sparkle> TEACH HAD 'EM IN HER TOOL KIT SO THE CURIOUS AMONG US COULD CHECK IT OUT

<sparkle> AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I KNOW ABOUT GLASS FUSING

<sparkle> CUT IT, LAYER IT, FIRE IT!

<sparkle> ROFL

<MaggieB> that is a LOT

<MaggieB> no wonder glass art is so pricey!

<sparkle> IT'S NOT CHEAP!

<sparkle> THE DICHROIC THAT IS SO PRETTY IS WAY PRICEY

<MaggieB> there is agallery in columbus ohio i love to go into to

<sparkle> AN 8X8 PIECE OF IT RUNS ABOUT 35-40 DOLLARS!

<Janet> can you keep melting glass until you like it? like recut and relayer?

<MaggieB> but i dont breathe until i leave

<sparkle> OH! YES

<sparkle> IF YOU DO SOMETHING AND DON'T LIKE IT

<sparkle> YOU CAN BREAK IT UP AND INCORPORATE THE PIECES INTO ANOTHER FUSING

<sparkle> IT'S ENDLESSLY REUSABLE!

<sparkle> AND IF YOU REALLY GET TIRED OF IT, YOU CAN BREAK IT INTO LITTLE SQURES AND FIRE THEM

<sparkle> AND THEY COME OUT DOTS!

<sparkle> THEN YOU CAN USE THE DOTS IN OTHER PROJECTS

<MaggieB> so.... how big of a kiln did you get?

<Janet> so these things I see, like with the lil designs in the dichroic parts? how is that done? (surely someone didn't cut glass that detailed and that small)

<MaggieB> squares make dots?

<sparkle> THE DICHROIC MATERIAL IS COATED ONTO GLASS THAT IS RIPPLED JANET

<Janet> that's like foil sorta kind?

<MaggieB> so the desins are the ripples?

<sparkle> IT'S A VACUUM APPLIED PROCESS OF SOMETIMES UP TO 18 LAYERS OF THE DICHROIC COATING

<MaggieB> oh my

<sparkle> (DEVELOPED FOR THE SPACE INDUSTRY ACTUALLY)

<sparkle> IT'S NOT REALLY FOIL LIKE...BUT IT IS A COATING ON THE GLASS

<MaggieB> can we as taxpayers requisition leftovers??

<sparkle> ROFL..

<sparkle> TRUST ME MAGGIE, IF WE COULD, I WOULD

<sparkle> SURELY BOB MUST KNOW SOMEONE AT THE SKUNKWORKS WHO COULD GET ME SOME

<sparkle> SQUARES MAKE DOTS 'CAUSE WHEN GLASS BECOMES MOLTEN, IT TRIES TO PULL IN ON ITSELF

<sparkle> BUT IT HAS TO BE LIL SQUARES TO DO THAT

<MaggeeB> so you need to compensate for that in your work?

<sparkle> YOU WON'T NOTICE IT ON THE BIG PIECES

<sparkle> IF IT'S A LARGER PIECE, IT'LL PRETTY MUCH HOLD HTE SHAPE YOU PUT IT IN WITH

<sparkle> SO YOU AHVE TO ROUND EDGES AND STUFF BEFORE YOU FIRE IT

<sparkle> OR DO IT AFTER AND FIRE POLISH 'EM BY HEATING IN THE KILN

<sparkle> TO POLISH OFF THE SCUFF MARKS

<MaggieB> grrrrrr

<MaggieB> i am doing my brenda imitation!

<MaggieB> ty cak

<cak> (and brenda's been pretty stable tonight)

<MaggieB> anyone there??

<MaggieB> boy this thing is getting shaky

<MaggieB> not getting much through

<brenda> yes can you believe it?

<MaggieB> sparkle still lecturing???

<sparkle> SO...THAT'S ABOUT ALL I KNOW

<sparkle> LOL

<MaggieB> lol

<MaggieB> back just in time!

<sparkle> MY KILN, SOMEONE ASKED, HAS AN 8X8" FIRING SHELF

<MaggieB> lol

<sparkle> IT'S A TABLE TOP KILN

<sparkle> AND PLUGS INTO STANDARD HOUSEHOLD PLUG

<MaggieB> big enough for a while anyhow

<sparkle> YEP.

<MaggieB> til you outgrow it

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> I wanna see your samples.

<MaggieB> sample????

<MaggieB> yes!

<MaggieB> would love to see them

<cak> yeah--do have any pics of your work?

<sparkle> THEY'RE ON TEH WEBPAGE

<MaggieB> at

<sparkle> http://www.dm.net/~sparkles/classes/fusing1/

<sparkle> SOMEWHERE I HAVE A SCAN OF THE PENDANTS I DID IN THE FIRST CLASS

<sparkle> LEMME GO FIND THOSE

<Janet> no, the OTHER ones you made

<Janet> I saw these ones.

Janet can't get enough

<MaggieB> geez janet!

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> I really want to do this.

<Janet> I know I can shovel out a place for a kiln

<Lory> well go head on janet

<cak> you need to get a torch area too Janet

<Janet> she said something about a dust mask?

<Janet> my house is almost pure dust

<cak> she did

<Janet> Owen!

<Janet> with a bit of clutter thrown in

<Owen> Hi Janet

<Janet> so I need a dust-free environment/

<sparkle> YES, A DUST MASK WITH A FILTER FOR PARTICLES

<Janet> do I?

<sparkle> YOU DON'T WANT TO GET THIS SILICONE DUST IN YOUR LUNGS

<Janet> Ohhhhhhh that makes me feel much better

<sparkle> AND YOU NEED 12" AROUND THE KILN

<Owen> Silicon dust is a bad thing.

<sparkle> OF CLEAR SPACE

<Lory> i think janet was worried bout her dust getting in the glass, lol

<Janet> I was afraid I'd have to have a dust free environment

<sparkle> LOL

<Janet> Janets don't dust

<MaggieB> you would have to move janet

<MaggieB> i hate to dust too

<MaggieB> do it when company is expected

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> I keep thinking about bombing this place so I can start over in a cleaner house

<Raven> I need the clutter to help hold all the dust down

<cak> lol

<MaggieB> oh, call in molly maids and treat yourself to a day out

<MaggieB> but then you would never find anything

<MaggieB> i actually cleaned my studio yesterday

<Janet> I called pop in maids once and they walked in and walked out and said to call them back after I'd cleaned up a bit

<MaggieB> but is still have African fabric EVERYWHERE!

<MaggieB> kinda pretty tho

<MaggieB> oh no!

<sparkle> OK, TRY RELOADING THE PAGE AND SEE IF THE PENDANTS COME UP TOWARD THE BOTTOM

<MaggieB> you are kidding!

<MaggieB> those are gorgeous!

<Janet> yeah. those are the ones I wanted to see again

<sparkle> TWO OF 'EM ARE GONNA GET BROKEN UP AND REFIRED

<sparkle> LOL

<Janet> the ones that were on the page before, those you said you were thinking of breaking up again too

<Iggy> ackkk, which two

<MaggieB> why?

<MaggieB> you dont like them

<MaggieB> ???

<MaggieB> send them my way!

<MaggieB> geez

<Raven> oh that pastel one is different and veeery pretty

<sparkle> ROFL

<MaggieB> you are too picky

<sparkle> I'M NOT TELLING WHICH ONES

<sparkle> THEY'LL BE REINCARNATED

<MaggieB> why are you doing it???

<Shannon> did i miss the lecture?

<sparkle> 'CAUSE I'M NOT THROWING ANY OF THIS AWAY!

<sparkle> ROFL

<cak> (afraid we'll try to talk you out of it?)

<Janet> send them to me, I will love them as they are

<sparkle> http://www.dm.net/~sparkles/classes/fusing1/

<MaggieB> you dont like them???

<sparkle> THERE YOU GO SHANNON, YOU CAN LOOK AT HTE PICTURES

<Shannon> oh thank you. i love a lecture with props.

<Janet> I want that gold one

<MaggieB> i want all of them

<Janet> me too but I knew she wouldn't give me alla them

<sparkle> LOL

<Janet> hi, Fairy Ally

<sparkle> I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE I PUT THOSE

<MaggieB> lol janet

<sparkle> THEY'RE AROUND HERE SOMEWHERE

<MaggieB> hey kat

<Janet> I thought if I just centered on one and begged for just one I'd have a better chance

<FairyAlly> hi

<sparkle> AND THAT PINK STRIP IN THE BATCH OF SQUARE ONES?

<sparkle> I'M GONNA REFIRE THAT ONE WITH SOME FIBER PAPER UNDER IT

<sparkle> SO THAT IT CRACKLES SO THE TURQUOISE COMES THROUGH THE PINK

<sparkle> AT LEAST, THAT'S THE PLAN

<Janet> Sparkle, in buttwipe class the other night, I said I'd send a paper casting to any class member who wrote and told me they wanted one. (hint hint)

<Raven> oh that sounds pretty

<sparkle> THAT WAS NICE OF YOU JANET

<Shannon> lol

<Janet> and you don't even have to tell me your email address

<sparkle> AND THOSE LONG STRIPS ARE GOING TO BE BROKEN INTO SQUARES FOR PENDANTS

<sparkle> AND REFIRED

<Shannon> wait. someone said we shouldnt call it buttwipe anymore. i'm thinking anal towelettes would be more p.c.

<sparkle> THAT'S THE FUN OF GLASS...YOU CAN JUST KEEP FIRING IT

<Janet> tell about fiber paper, what is that and what does it do?

<MaggieB> i like buttwipe

<sparkle> TILL YOU GET SOMETHING YOU'RE HAPPY WITH

<Lory> oh and i got buttwipes today too

<sparkle> IT'S A STIFF PAPER AND WHEN YOU FIRE IT, IT BECOMES CRUMPLY

<cak> (that'll teach 'em to make a fuss over a name)

<Janet> yeah, Lory, I sent you a couple of my best ones

<sparkle> SO YOU CAN USE IT AS SUPPORTS

<sparkle> OR YOU CAN CUT PIECES OF IT AND LAY IT BETWEEN LAYERS FOR HOLES THROUGH THE GLASS \

<sparkle> AND AFTER FIRING IT CLEANS OUT WITH A PIPE CLEANER

<Janet> ohhhh that was my other question, was how you got holes through the glass for pendants and stuff

<Raven> so you cut your own strips from a sheet for the holes?

<sparkle> WELL, YOU CAN DRILL IT

<sparkle> BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S A PITA

<sparkle> TO DRILL GLASS

<sparkle> SO WE CUT STRIPS OF THE FIBER PAPER AND LAYERED THAT

<Janet> (you can wire wrap 'em and not make holes)

<Raven> maybe you could twist the fiber paper to make a rounder hole?

<sparkle> YES, IF YOU HAVE ANY WIRE WORKING SKILL, YOU CAN DO THAT

<sparkle> NO, IT'S PRETTY STIFF RAVEN

<sparkle> YOU COULD TAKE AN EMERY BOARD TO IT AND SMOOTH OFF THE CORNERS

<Janet> or if you have a friend who does, you can send her two and she'll send you one back.

Lory says good one janet

<sparkle> I MAY BE TAKING SOME GLASS FOR MY FRIENDS WHO GO TO THE KANSAS CONVENTION

<sparkle> I JUST WON AN AUCTION SUNDAY FOR 25 LBS OF BLACK SCRAP GLASS...FOR ABOUT $60

<janetfrien> not that i'd beg or anything

<sparkle> I WAS THRILLED

<sparkle> SINCE NEW IT WOULD BE LOTS MORE

<MaggieB> how much would it normally cost?

<sparkle> 25X8

<sparkle> ABOUT 200?

<janetfrien> so when is quintessentials gonna be selling fused glass pendants?

<sparkle> LOL..WHEN I GET MY KILN AND MAKE SOME WORTH SELLING <g>

<janetfrien> i'm ready now.

<sparkle> I'M NOT

<janetfrien> sigh

<sparkle> I COMPARE MINE TO THE ONES I'VE BOUGHT...AND THEY'RE SO NOT READY TO BE SOLD

<sparkle> BUT, I'M DOING ABOUT 100 CABS FOR TRADES FOR AC

<sparkle> I FIGURE THAT'LL SHORTEN MY LEARNING CURVE A LOT

<MaggieB> i dont understand those.... trades i mean, they dont do that at fiber conventions

<janetfrien> these are already beautiful

<Lory> you could always give em away sparkle

<cak> (yeah, doing *anything* 100 times will short something anyway)

<janetfrien> yes, you could always give 'em away to your bestest friends

<sparkle> rofl..ask iggy if she even has a piece yet

<MaggieB> iggy doesnt have a piece????

<bestestfie> for shame!

<Iggy> no

<sparkle> lol

<cak> (I liked "fiend of sparkle" janet)

<Iggy> why

<bestestfie> you should give Iggy a piece, right after you give some to me

<sparkle> i haven't made a piece worthy of gifting my mother with

<sparkle> (that's my story and I'm sticking to it)

<lorytaking> well me and janet are cheap and easy

<sparkle> 'cause she saves things...

<Iggy> my birthday is coming ... I will get one when she is ready ... lol

<bestestfie> (that was smooth, sparkle)

<lorytaking> not picky

<bestestfie> we is

<sparkle> she still has the awful awful ceramics I did in high school

<sparkle> so I know if she gets one that's ugly, she'll keep it

<sparkle> ROFL

<Iggy> right here in front of me, as a matter of fact

<Iggy> all eight of them

<Iggy> and they are not awful

<Raven> OMG.... I NEED this glass fused pendant...

<Raven> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1630364046

<sparkle> oh! that's one of the next classes I'm taking...etching on dichro

<Raven> make me one lke this :-)

<bestestfie> how do you do that?

<sparkle> rofl..i dunno

<sparkle> i haven't taken the class yet

<sparkle> and the other thing i discovred...not only is glass and the equip expensive?

<sparkle> the books are expensive!

<sparkle has $200 in fusing books

<sparkle> and only 4 books

<sparkle> that page is a good example, if you look at all the sellers auctions

<sparkle> that one that RAven needs is fully fused...smooth top

<Iggy> ok, that decided it ... me is waiting till I can use your library before I start glass working

<sparkle> all one piece

<sparkle> if you look at their other auctions, pink celebration is tack fused

<sparkle> the pieces are all still individual pieces layered but separate

<sparkle> http://home.pacbell.net/mhartjen/ebay/ebay_auctions.htm

<bestestfie> that pink celebration is incredible. how is that done?

<sparkle> snippits of glass piled up and fused

<sparkle> but not fully fused so they melt into one piece

<cak> I presume the Pink Celebration isn't as sturdy as the fully fused pendents?

<Raven> pink celebrations looks like Friendly Plastic! You could do an awesome "faux glass" one in clay betcha

<bestestfie> how do you know when to stop so it doesn't become one solid lump?

<sparkle> that i don't know yet janet <G>

<lory> night everybody, thanks for the lecture sparkle

<sparkle> I think it might break off at the points more easily

<Raven> Nite Lory!!!!!!

<sparkle> only 'caus you could catch 'em

<sparkle> but as far as structure, that glass aint coming apart

<cak> (night Lory)

<kat> night lory

<bestestfie> take care, Lory. enjoy the wire

<cak> so the different fusing methods are just better for different forms?

<sparkle> right

<brenda> thanks for the class sparkle

<brenda> nite everyone

<sparkle> night brenda

<brenda> byeeeeee

<cak> night brenda (glad you could stick around so will tonight)

<bestestfie> yes, thank you

<bestestfie> you have just fed my fusing lust

<brenda> me too cak

<MaggieB> ty sparkle

<sparkle> rofl..it's very addicting

<sparkle> try to find somewhere to take some classes

<MaggieB> i cannot afford addicting

<cak> yes, thank you--love glass!

<sparkle> oh, cak, klew (the polyclay gal)

<MaggieB> thank god no place around here

<sparkle> has started lampworking

sparkle sighs

<cak> now, *that's* addicting too (both lampworking and polyclay)

<sparkle> yes

<sparkle> lol

sparkle is running out of room for her addictions

<bestestfie> everything is addicting to me

<cak> sadly, I know what you mean bf

<bestestfie> that's me the bestest fiend

<sparkle> lol

<cak> lol

<bestestfie> sparkle, this was super, thank you for doing this. Fascinating stuff.

<sparkle> you're welcome

<sparkle> I'm happy to help addict other people <G>

<MaggieB> turning in.... see you all later....tata~~~~~~~~~

<cak> You'll have to drag us along as you learn

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