<Vyx> hi Janet

<MaggieB> there is janet!

<Janet> Hi Hi HI!!

<MaggieB> hey janet

<MomCat> I thought Janet's post on the List said to be ready with Corel and the chat window on a split screen

<kat> hi janet

<Janet> yes, are you all ready with corel also open on your screen?

<stampnbev> Yep!

<MaggieB> what about the gals that dont have it loaded yet janet?

<Vyx> (no... forgot to buy it until today)

<Janet> hmmmm

<Janet> LOL Vyx. Sounds like me.

<Vyx> I've got paintshoppro open on the machine.

<MaggieB> gosh, split screen makes each of these awfully skinny!

<Vyx> hiya deb

<Janet> Well, we'll jump in and y'all can either sort of listen in and take notes, or do the install quick and then jump in and start working when you get it installed. REally your choice on that, whatever you think will be of the most value

<deb> hi

<Vyx> hi Rave

<raveAFK> hiya

<Janet> so cool. We are gathering!

<MaggieB> you arent going to be hard on those of us that didnt take the last class are you??

<Janet> Oh no. This isn't even related a bit.

<MaggieB> ok

<cak> (I think you should janet--sounds like fun)

<Janet> Nan is here!

<MaggieB> haha cak

<MaggieB> lol

<cak> (can you tell I'm an older sister?)

<exfastpost> Nan is--I hope

<rave> I'm here practicing avoidence behavior.. I started to think about starting to clean out my workroom

<rave> but I can't face it

<Janet> yeah. that could be fun. I could abuse anyone who has ever slept through any of my classes.

<MomCat> lol rave

<MaggieB> i did that last week

<MaggieB> cleaned my studio

<MaggieB> yuck

<MaggieB> had to to survive

<Janet> I think that may include all of you. LOL

<MaggieB> lol

<cak> nuh uh

<MaggieB> us janet? never

<rave> the job is just overwhelming... I can't even turn around in there

<Vyx> Well, I've =left= a class to go sleep. :)

<MomCat> Is that why you have so much to sell, Maggie?

<MaggieB> yep

<MaggieB> and the possibility of moving

<Janet> So tell me before we start, who else doesn't have Corel already loaded and ready to roll right now?

<MaggieB> in the near future

<rave> I can't even sell most of my junk

<Owen> I don't.

<Vyx> I don't

<Janet> it didn't come yet, owen?

<cak> I don't, but you knew that

<Owen> My damn cd drive is quitting on me.

<Janet> I knew that.

<Owen> Yeah it came today.

<rave> assemblage is a scarey thing to get into... no body wants all the crap I save

<Janet> Owen. It DID come. YAY!

<MaggieB> kat isnt loaded either

<Janet> Owen, try and copy it to the hard drive and install from there. That sometimes works with a flaky CD drive.

<Owen> Yeah, and when I can afford to fix the drive again, I will get it on. Can't stay tonite, I am waiting an important phone call.

<kat> i don't

<Owen> NO the drive just wont run.

<Janet> dang.

<Janet> okay.

<Owen> It is getting worse.

<Owen> I will be back if I can, later.

<Janet> okeys

<Janet> Okay.

<Vyx> see ya owen

<Owen> bye.

<Janet> If you have Corel running, get it where you can see both that and here.

<MaggieB> side by side?

<deb> ok - hold on

<MaggieB> skinny like?

<Janet> If not, then take notes.

<MaggieB> is there an URL at all?

<rave> wunnerful sight on a 15" monitor! LOL!

<Janet> however you'd rather, Maggie. I like them tiled vertically, some folks do it horizontal.

<Janet> LOL or let them overlap some and then you can keep a half-eye on here while you're doing things in Corel.

<deb> ok - i'm UP

<Janet> yay!

<deb> > )

<MomCat> Corel 9 won't let me resize it at all

<MaggieB> i think kat is installing too

<exfastpost> I'm up

<MomCat> not even the "restore" button works

<exfastpost> it is 9 we are after, right?

<Janet> Diane, it will, maybe it is maximized by accident?

<deb> says Welcome to CorelDRAW

<deb> which item do we want??

<Janet> yay!

<Janet> I want you all to start a new document.

<ccmomma> Hi

<exfastpost> got it

<Janet> either with ^n or under the file menu

<MaggieB> mine opens to graphic 1

<MaggieB> if i do file new it opens another one

<deb> says New Graphic

<MaggieB> graphic2

<deb> Open Graphic

<deb> Corel Tutor

<deb> or Template?

<Janet> well, get a graphic that has nothing done to it yet. a clean page, so to speak.

<Janet> new graphic, Deb.

<MaggieB> you want us to get a pic?

<deb> ok

<MaggieB> or a clean slate??

<deb> after you pick new graphic

<Janet> Nope, I want you all to think first. (clean slate)

<deb> you can resize the screen

<MaggieB> k

<MomCat> When I clicked the "new graphic" it started going off about templates

<MomCat> so I ditched that, deb and went up to "file"

<Janet> Ignore that, or click it closed. We are learning from scratch and don't need no templates.

<deb> I have what looks like a blank white square

<MaggieB> that is what i have too

<Janet> you're golden!

<MaggieB> looks like a blank page

<Janet> oh. i should put on the caps

<MaggieB> and says graphic 1

<MaggieB> yes, please janet ty

<debgolden> me too maggy

<MaggieB> we dont want you lost in the crowd!

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> ESSENTIALLY COREL DRAW HAS TWO BASIC FUNCTIONALITIES...

<debgolden> lol

<Janet> CREATION OF DESIGN-INTENSIVE GRAPHICS AND THE PRODUCTION OF PAGE-BASED PUBLICATIONS (LIKE BROCHURES)

<Janet> SO WE'RE GOING TO LEARN ALL THIS BY DOING IT IN THIS COURSE. I FIGURED MIGHT AS WELL JUMP IN AND STRUGGLE TOGETHER, RIGHT?

<Janet> SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A LOGO

<exfastpost> hehehe

<MaggieB> struggle?? <gulp>

<rave> LOL!

<MaggieB> janet? question?

<Janet> YES?

<MaggieB> are these graphics ok for use on both internet and print?

<Janet> YES, THEY WILL BE.

<MaggieB> cool, ty

<Owen> ty

debgolden puts on her struggling gloves

<Janet> COREL ISN'T AN END-STAGE GRAPHIC FOR THE WEB OR EVEN FOR MOST PRINTERS. BUT IT WILL EXPORT TO SO MANY THINGS.

<MaggieB> ok, so where the heck do we start?

<MaggieB> this thing looks complicated!

<debgolden> at the beginning

<debgolden> > )

<MaggieB> i hope so!!

<Janet> SO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT YOUR LOGO TO CONVEY.

<Janet> START IN YOUR BRAIN.

<debgolden> STAMPS

<Janet> AND THIS PART i CAN'T TEACH YOU, BUT I CAN GIVE A LITTLE GUIDANCE

<debgolden> k

<Janet> REAL LOGO OR PRETEND ONE, DOESN'T MATTER. THINK OF A LOGO YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE.

<Janet> FOR EXAMPLE...

<Janet> FOR MINE, I AM MAKING A LOGO FOR A SET OF TEEN JEWELRY DESIGNS, SO I WANT A FONT THAT WILL APPEAL TO TEENS, LOOK FRIENDLY AND APPROACHABLE (AND AFFORDABLE ON A BABYSITTER'S SALARY), BUT WITH A HINT OF SOPHISTICATION THESE TEENS CRAVE. SINCE I HAVE NO INTENTION OF ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH A REAL PRODUCT LINE, I'M GOING TO CALL THESE "JANET'S JEWELS." (A POOR CHOICE, PROBABLY, A GOOD NUMBER OF THE TEENS I KNOW WOULD START SNICKERING ABOUT T

<Janet> CHOOSE THAT ANYWAY, BECAUSE I LIKE HOW SOME FONTS HAVE THAT SWASHY LOOPING J.

<Janet> (OOPS, TOO LONG OF SENTENCE)

<Janet> SOMEONE WASN'T WATCHING THE SCREEN.

<MaggieB> trying to catch up!

<MaggieB> geez

<debgolden> hmm

<Janet> LOL SORRY

<MaggieB> how fast do you think we read???

<MaggieB> lol

<MaggieB> not as fast as you cut and paste dear

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> THIS IS WHY I USUALLY DON'T TYPE THESE AHEAD OF TIME

<Janet> I CAN TYPE ABOUT AS FAST AS I CAN THINK

<MaggieB> k

<MaggieB> caught up

<Vyx> me too, I just think really slow. LOL

<MaggieB> so you want to appeal to teens

<Janet> RIGHT

<MaggieB> want fun and teenish but sophisticated

<Janet> AND I THINK I WANT A QUASI-SOPHISTICATED LOOK

<MaggieB> yeah, like teens think they are

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> YOU MIGHT WANT FUNKY FABRICS

<MaggieB> oh, ok

<MaggieB> like if i wanted to make a logo for African Fabric Collection....

<MaggieB> got it

<Janet> I MIGHT ONLY HAVE TWO WORDS TO PLAY WITH, BUT I NEED TO ATTRACT THE EYE AND ALSO TO GET OVER THESE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES.

<debgolden> I can't think of anything

<Janet> COREL'S REAL STRENGTH TO ME AND WHAT I USE IT FOR MOST IS THE TEXT HANDLING

<MomCat> I have my logo already, but I did it pixel by pixel in Paintbrush so I want to redo it in a vector program

<Janet> SO MAKE UP SOMETHING, DEB. YOUR HOMEWORK FOR THIS WEEK IS TO THINK AND PLAY WITH YOUR LOGO

<MaggieB> vector program??

<Janet> DIANE, THIS IS GOING TO BE SO MUCH BETTER AND MORE FUN AND WITH BETTER RESULT, YOU WILL BE PLEASED

<debgolden> I think my brain is migraine damanged

<stampnbev> thanks maggie b :)

<Janet> LORY, FIRST INSTRUCTION (AFTER I SAID TO START A NEW FILE) IS TO PICK A TYPEFACE FOR THEIR LOGO

<Janet> TYPEFACE IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL SO IT'S ESSENTIAL TO HAVE A LOOK AT OUR TEXT IN A FULL RANGE OF DIFFERENT TYPEFACES.

<MaggieB> font?

<Lory> ty

rave z is for the CampRaven Junkyard

<Janet> COREL HAS LIKE 1,000 OF 'EM

<MaggieB> right in the software?

<Janet> WOO HOO. I LIKE THAT!

<debgolden> Maybe I'll do a SandyKat in a logo??

<MaggieB> i hope my select edition does!

<Janet> YES, YOU INSTALL THEM WITH WINDOWS OR HOWEVER YOU PUT FONTS INTO A MAC

<Janet> I BET IT HAS A LOT, MAGGIE

<Janet> SO EVERYBODY SEE THE BIG T TOOL?

<Lory> there is a limit on the mac janet, so dont go crazy dumping in fonts

<Janet> IT'S IN THE TOOL BAR, PROBABLY RUNNING VERTICAL

Lory says been there done that

<MaggieB> its an A???

<Janet> THERE'S A LIMIT IN WINDOWS, TOO. BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.

<Janet> MORE THAN 200 FONTS AND SOME OF THEM WON'T SHOW UP IN WINDOWS

<debgolden> no

<Janet> IT COULD BE AN A IN YOUR VERSION.

<debgolden> I don't see a T tool

<exfastpost> Janet, do you have Old Dreadful #7 by bitstream?

<debgolden> I have a big A

<Janet> I DO!!

<MaggieB> the A says Text Tool when i put the arrow on it

<debgolden> janet - don't we hav ethe same program?

<debgolden> same version?

<Janet> (I DID PLAN THIS CLASS OUT USING VERSION SEVEN. I USUALLY USE 9 OR 10)

<Janet> WHICH IS AN A

<debgolden> oh

<debgolden> ok - I have A

<MaggieB> so do we click on the text tool?

<Janet> I DIDN'T WANT TO TEACH SOME FANCY FUNCTION THAT VERSION 10 HAS THAT YOUR VERSION 9 OR 8 DIDN'T HAVE

<Janet> SO I BACKED UP AND REINSTALLED V 7

<Janet> I REALLY DID THINK THIS THROUGH

<Janet> OKAY.

<Owen> scary

<Janet> TYPE YOUR WORDS

<Janet> (INDEED<G>)

<MaggieB> click on the A???

<MaggieB> and then type?

<debgolden> OK

<Janet> AND DEFAULT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING BORING THAT IS A SANS SERIF

<Janet> CLICK ON THE A, THEN CLICK ON THE BLANK PAGE AND TYPE

<debgolden> mine is avantgarde 24

<Janet> THE SIZE IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THIS IS SO COOL ABOUT VECTOR DRAWING PROGRAMS.

<debgolden> ok

<Janet> YOU CAN SIZE THESE HOWEVER BIG YOU WANT THEM, AFTER EVERYTHING IS DONE, AND NO MATTER WHAT SIZE, IT IS GOING TO LOOK GOOD

<Janet> SO TYPE YOUR WORDS

<debgolden> OK - i changed it to Gallery

<Janet> YOUR VERSION MAY AUTOMAGICALLY TURN THAT INTO A BORDERED BOX FOR YOU, IF IT DOESN'T, CLICK ON THE ARROW AT THE TOP OF THE TOOLS

<debgolden> it has little boxes around it

<Janet> THEN CLICK ON YOUR TEXT, YEP, THOSE LITTLE BOXES ARE HANDLES

<Janet> RESIZER HANDLES.

<Janet> (WE'LL PLAY WITH THOSE LATER)

<debgolden> I did enlarge it so I can SEE it

<Janet> IF YOURS HAS LIL ARROW DEALIES INSTEAD OF BOXES, CLICK IT AGAIN AND THEY WILL TURN BACK TO BOXES

<Janet> SO THAT IS SELECTED, LET'S MAKE A BUNCH OF COPIES OF IT, SO WE CAN MAKE A SELECTION OF FONTS THE LAZY WAY

<debgolden> ok - I have little boxes

<debgolden> how do we do that?

<debgolden> duplicate?

<Janet> YOU WANT TO DUPLICATE YOUR TEXT. CTRL-D OR ELSE GO INTO THE EDIT MENU AND PICK DUPLICATE

<Janet> OR!

<MaggieB> how many should we paste?

<Janet> YOU CAN JUST DRAG IT DOWN UNDERNEATH ITSELF HOLDING DOWN THE + KEY ON YOUR NUMBER PAD

<Janet> OR!

<exfastpost> cool

<debgolden> OH no

<debgolden> I duplicated about 8 times

<MaggieB> African Fabric Collectionshow many?

<Janet> YOU CAN HOLD DOWN THE RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON AND IT WILL AUTOMAGICALLY EITHER COPY IT OR ELSE ASK IF YOU WANT TO COPY IT

<MomCat> Mine keeps capitalizing the first letter and I don't want it capitalized!

<Janet> I'D MAKE 6-10 OR SO

<debgolden> they are staggered

<debgolden> do I need to separate th em?

<Janet> IT DOES THAT, DIANE. AFTER CLASS GO INTO YOUR PREFERENCES AND TURN OFF AUTO SPELLING CORRECTION

<Janet> WAIT WAIT WAIT, YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST FOR ME NOW<G>

<Janet> WANT TO DO SOMETHING COOL?

<debgolden> yes

<cak> mais oui

<exfastpost> si

<debgolden> ok - I have 6 gallery

<exfastpost> nai

<Janet> DUPLICATE AND DRAG A COPY DOWN BY HOLDING DOWN THE + KEY ON THE NUMBER PAD. OR ACTUALLY I THINK YOU JUST NEED TO PRESS IT, THEN DRAG

<debgolden> oui

<MaggieB> what?

<Janet> THEN AFTER YOU DO THAT?

<MaggieB> you lost me

<Janet> HIT CONTROL-R

<Janet> AND IT REPEATS THE LAST THING YOU DID

<deb> shit

<Janet> SO YOU CAN GET MULTIPLES FLIPPING ALL THE WAY DOWN THE SCREEN JUST BY SAYING ^R

<deb> hold on

<Janet> TRY THAT

<Janet> THAT'S A HANDY TRICK

<exfastpost> very handy

<MaggieB> i will try after class thank you

<MaggieB> lol

<MaggieB> i do the old C and B

<MaggieB> c and V

<deb> hmm

<Janet> (ESPECIALLY HANDY LIKE IF YOU WANT A SERIES OF GRAPHICS SPACED EXACTLY THE SAME, DO IT ONCE THEN ^R AND THEY'RE ALL SPACED THE SAME)

<MaggieB> boy am i glad i log!

Vyx smacks her head, knew she forgot something

<Janet> SO YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF YOUR WORDS TO MAKE INTO TEXT CHOICES

<deb> hold on Janet let me start over

<Janet> LOL VYX. BEG CAK@DM.NET

<Janet> OKAY DEB

<Janet> I'LL NATTER ON UNTIL YOU'RE READY

<Janet> OR TELL WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NEXT.

<deb> wow

<deb> OK that was cool

<deb> that control R

<Janet> WE'RE GOING TO CLICK ON EACH ONE OF THESE, ONE AT A TIME, THEN GO INTO OUR TEXT DIALOG BOX (CONTROL-T) AND CHANGE THE FONT

<Janet> LOL I LOVE ^R

<cak> (but beg at ckeller@siu.edu for a while--my mail's still not working)

<Vyx> okay, got it cak

<qkdeb> is there a way to separate them first?

<Janet> OH YES, DEB

<Janet> DO THE DUPLICATE THING, THEN JUST DRAG THE SECOND ONE DOWN TO WHERE YOU WANT IT

<qkdeb> ty

<Janet> THIS IS A WHOLE 'NOTHER BALL GAME FROM OUR OTHER GRAPHICS PROGRAMS. THESE ARE ACTUALLY OBJECTS, AND THEY STAY OBJECTS

<Janet> SO THEY STAY SEPARATE. AND WE CAN DRAG 'EM HERE AND THERE AT WILL

<Janet> WE CAN ARRANGE THEM, BUT I'M GETTING AHEAD. LET'S PLAY WITH OUR FONTS

<Janet> CLICK ONE AND THEN OPEN YOUR TEXT BOX WITH ^T

<Janet> OR YOU CAN DO IT UNDER THE TEXT MENU, OR BY LOOKING AT THE TEXT PROPERTIES UNDER THE HORIZONTAL TOOL BAR

<Janet> BUT IN THIS CASE?

<Janet> DO THE CONTROL-T THING

<Janet> BECAUSE (THIS IS SO SLICK) COREL WILL SHOW YOU THE FIRST FEW LETTERS OF YOUR WORDS IN THE FONT

<Janet> SO YOU CAN START AT THE TOP AND USE YOUR CURSOR KEY TO SLOWLY BROWSE THROUGH THEM

<Janet> YOU SEE ONE THAT MAY BE A POSSIBILITY, CLICK OKAY

<Janet> THEN SELECT YOUR NEXT COPY OF YOUR WORDS AND DO IT AGAIN

<Janet> MAKE SENSE?

<MaggieB> yes

<MaggieB> but i dont think there are different fonts than usual here

<deb> cool

<Janet> MAGGIE, YOU'LL HAVE TO INSTALL WHAT FONTS YOU WANT VIA THE WINDOWS CONTROL PANEL

<deb> I have gobs

<deb> one GALLERY is in Broadway font

<deb> get it??

<MaggieB> it doesnt do that when you installt the software?

<deb> ; )

<deb> should

<Janet> SO AFTER CLASS, OPEN THE CONTROL PANEL, CLICK ON FONTS, PUT THE COREL CD IN THE DRIVE AND INSTALL NEW FONTS OFF THE COREL CD

<MaggieB> they arent on the draw cd?

<Janet> NOPE, IT JUST INSTALLS A FEW

<Janet> THEY ARE!

<deb> they are on it

<MaggieB> oh ok

<MaggieB> cool

<Janet> UNDER A DIRECTORY OR FOLDER CALLED (DOH) FONTS

<Janet> THEN UNDER FONTS YOU HAVE YOUR CHOICE OF TRUE TYPE OR POSTSCRIPT

<MaggieB> and which should we pick?

<deb> so you want us to use a different font on each word?

<Janet> IF WE WERE GOING TO SEND THIS TO A HIGH POWERED PRINT BUREAU, WE'D WANT TO USE THE POSTSCRIPT, BUT FOR A LOT OF US THAT WOULD INVOLVE INSTALLING THE ADOBE TYPE MANAGER, WHICH ALSO IS BUNDLED WITH YOUR COREL SOFTWARE.

<Janet> NOT NECESSARILY ON EACH WORD, DEB. BUT ON EACH COPY OF YOUR WORDS

<Janet> WHICH FONT, MAGGIE? WHICHEVER ONES SPEAK TO YOU.

<Owen> Use both types.

<Janet> THAT YOU LIKE, OR THAT YOU THINK CONVEY YOUR SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES OF YOUR LOGO

<MaggieB> no, i meant true type or postscript

<Janet> OH

<deb> yeah - that's waht I meant

<Owen> It is worth getting the type manager.

<MaggieB> i think i have that already

<Janet> MOST OF US WILL PROBABLY USE THIS IN WEB WORK (AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ATM INSTALLED IT'S A NO BRAINER)

<Janet> WEB WORK I'D PROBABLY SAY THE TRUE TYPE. IF THIS WAS GOING TO A PRINT HOUSE, I'D SAY DEFINITELY THE POSTSCRIPT

<Janet> ANYWAY, SCROLL AND PICK.

<exfastpost> man, I have some yoogley fonts

<Janet> I ENDED UP PICKING A COUPLE SAN SERIF ONES (THE PLAIN TYPE ONES WITHOUT THE LITTLE DOHICKIES ON THE BOTTOM OF THE LETTERS)...

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> BECAUSE THEY LOOKED SORT OF "YOUTHFUL BUT SOPHISTICATED"

<Janet> BUT I WANTED A SWASHY J

<Janet> SO I PICKED A COUPLE SCRIPT ONES, TOO

<qkdeb> Im having problems selecting, when I open the text box, Ive only

<MomCat> but can't you use fancy fonts for a logo because It will be handled as a graphic?

<qkdeb> got a portion of my words?

<MomCat> deb, that

<Janet> YES, YOU CAN DO JUST A FEW OF YOUR LETTERS OR THE WHOLE THINGS

<Janet> WHAT I ENDED UP DOING FOR MINE WAS USING A REALLY VERTICAL SAN SERIF TYPE (PLAZA D) FOR ALL BUT THE J PARTS, AND THE PICKING UP A SNAZZY J FROM A SCRIPT FONT

<cak> Will Corel cut off text if the text box isn't big enough?

<MaggieB> ok so we have a half dozen or so with different fonts, right?

<Janet> IT WILL IN THE TEXT DIALOG BOX BUT AFTER YOU PICK AND CLOSE THAT, THE WHOLE LETTER(S) WILL BE THERE

<Janet> RIGHT!

<cak> gotcha, thanks

<Janet> WHILE YOU HAVE THE TEXT BOX OPEN, CHECK OUT THE OTHER CHOICES, BESIDES FONT, YOU CAN PICK

<MaggieB> i didnt draw a box... just clicked down where i typed

<Janet> YOU CAN MAKE YOUR LETTERS ALL CAPS

<Janet> OR SMALL CAPS (ALL CAPS BUT THE CAPITAL LETTERS ARE LARGER)

<Janet> YOU CAN ALSO ADD UPPER AND LOWER RULES TO IT

<MomCat> Originally I used a font that looked like "computer printing" because I was doing cards on the computer years ago when color printerers and draw programs were not so widespread

<Janet> LOOK IN ALL THE CHOICES IN THE DIALOG BOX AND PLAY WITH THEM

<MaggieB> cool

<deb> ok - all my fonts are picked

<Owen> Can you do drop caps at this point, Janet?

<Janet> THAT'S ALSO HOMEWORK FOR NEXT WEEK. POKE AROUND ALL YOUR TEXT OPTIONS

<Janet> YOU CAN!

<Vyx> what are drop caps?

<MaggieB> what is strikeout used for?

<Janet> OR SAY IF YOU WANT TO JACK WITH THE KERNING (LETTER SPACING) ON SOME BUT NOT ALL...

<Janet> YOU CAN DO THAT

<Owen> Wow

<Janet> DROP CAPS ARE BIGGER, AND SET OFF THE BASELINE.

<Janet> LET ME TELL YOU HOW TO MESS WITH INDIVIDUAL LETTERS, I MEAN =REALLY= MESS WITH THEM

<Owen> Like the caps used in older books, Vyx.

<qkdeb> ok, not sure what I'm doing wrong, I see the new text style in the box, but not on my screen once I click ok

<exfastpost> My dialog box seems to be deficient

<MaggieB> oh i love the look of those!

<Janet> THE TOOL BELOW YOUR ARROW TOOL LOOKS LIKE A CHEVRON DEALIE ON A LINE SORT OF?

<Janet> OKAY, DEB, YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR WORDS HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE MOUSE

<Owen> The first letter is much bigger than the rest, usually very fancy, but drops below the line instead of resting on it.

<Janet> THEN WHEN YOU CLICK OKAY ON THE DIALOG, THEY WILL CHANGE

<qkdeb> ok

<Vyx> okay owen, I get it, thanks

<MaggieB> i have an eraser below my arrow

<Janet> ON MINE, SINCE I HAD TWO DIFFERENT FONTS, SORT OF THAT DROP CAP THEORY, BUT A SWIRLY SCRIPT J AND THEN REAL PLAIN ANET AND EWELS

<Janet> I NEEDED (LOOK BELOW THE ERASER THEN)

<MaggieB> what is the name of the tool?

<MaggieB> next is zoom on mine

<deb> mine is shape tool?

<Janet> MAYBE IT IS BELOW ZOOM. IT IS THE SHAPE TOOL

<MaggieB> i dont have a shape tool

<Janet> ANYWAY, I NEEDED TO SCOOT OVER MY LETTERS TO CLOSER TO MY CAPS

<deb> it looks like someone doing aerobics!!

<rave> Maggie... click and hold on your eraser and you should have a fly-out that shows other tools on that same button

<Janet> YOU GOT TO, MAGGIE

<Janet> OH. I BET IT IS WITH THE ERASER THEN

<rave> it's the first on the left

<deb> I have the arrow first, then the shape tool next

<Janet> ANY OF THE TOOLS THAT HAVE LIKE A TURNED UP CORNER TO THEM ARE MULTIPLE TOOLS AND IF YOU HOLD DOWN YOUR CLICK ON THEM, YOU'LL GET MORE CHOICES THAT YOU CAN PICK

<MaggieB> there is a knife an eraser and a funny looking thing

<Janet> THE FUNNY LOOKING THING

<Janet> PICK THAT

<MaggieB> got it

<MaggieB> geez

<Janet> LOOKS LIKE A CHEVRON SORTA?

<MaggieB> like you are supposed to know it!

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> BUT ON ITS SIDE

<MaggieB> yikes

<rave> LOL!

<MaggieB> so what do i do with it??

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> CLICK WITH THAT SHAPE TOOL ON ONE OF YOUR WORDS

<deb> looks like someone doing aerobics to me LOL

<exfastpost> an arrowhead pointing at a wavyline

<MaggieB> k

<MaggieB> did that

<Janet> AND LITTLE BOXES WILL APPEAR AT THE BASE OF ALL THE LETTERS

<MaggieB> yes.....

<deb> yes

<Janet> EACH LIL BOX IS THAT LETTER'S "HANDLE"

<Janet> GRAB ONE OF THEM AND DRAG THAT POOR LETTER AROUND

<Janet> (THEN DO AN UNDO AND GET IT BACK IN LINE<G>)

<deb> cool

<MaggieB> cool

<MaggieB> so i can move them

<MaggieB> wherever i want?

<deb> ok - I undoed

<Janet> IF YOU HOLD DOWN THE CONTROL KEY AS YOU MOVE THE LETTER, IT WILL STAY IN LINE

<Janet> BUT MOVE BACK AND FORTH

<MaggieB> i discovered that you can set how many undos you want

<MaggieB> but eats up memory

<Janet> OR YOU CAN DOUBLE CLICK ONE OF YOUR LETTER'S BOXES AND GET THE TEXT DIALOG BOX AGAIN AND CHANGE THE PROPERTIES OF THAT ONE LETTER

<Janet> YOU COULD DO AN aLtErCaSe LOGO

<Janet> (THAT WAS TRICKY lol)

<deb> lol

<MaggieB> so how do you do that big first letter trick then?

<MaggieB> like in the old books?

<MaggieB> separate and then edit the first letter?

<Janet> DOUBLE CLICK YOUR FIRST LETTER'S LIL BOX

<Janet> AND EDIT THAT FIRST LETTER

<MaggieB> make it fancier and bigger?

<Janet> YOU CAN FIND INITIAL CAP FONTS THAT ARE VERY FANCY

<MaggieB> and drop it down?

<MaggieB> cool

<deb> cool

<Janet> OR IF YOU HAVE A FULL VERSION OF COREL (LIKE IF IT CAME WITH 2 OR 3 CDS)

<deb> I do

<Janet> ON THE CLIP ART CD THERE IS A TON OF ILLUMINATED CAPITAL LETTERS YOU CAN USE

<exfastpost> drop it by moving it down?

<deb> under clip art

<deb> ?

<Janet> PLUNDER AROUND THE CLIP ART CD, AND SEEMS LIKE THOSE ARE CALLED LETTERS OR DESIGN OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING ELSE

<MaggieB> janet, question? what is the lowest full version you would recommend for win98?

<Janet> (IT AIN'T UNDER ANIMALS)

<MaggieB> select only has one cd

<Janet> I THINK 8

<exfastpost> middleevil?

<MaggieB> k ty

<Janet> VERSION 7 IS SORTA SUCKY

<deb> lol

<Janet> MIDDLE EVIL! YES!

<Vyx> oh good, that's the version I ordered.

<deb> we have 9 don't we?

<deb> oh duh

<Janet> I THINK SO DEB

<deb> it says Corel DRAW 9

<deb> lol

<Janet> LOL

deb blushes

<Janet> YIKES. WHERE DID THIS HOUR GO?

<Janet> HOMEWORK.

<deb> that was FUN

<Janet> PLAY WITH ALL THE TOOLS

<MaggieB> homework!

<Vyx> went quick that's for sure!

<exfastpost> jess?

<MaggieB> all the tools???

<MaggieB> all of them>

<deb> do we save these all on the same page janet?

<Janet> PLAY WITH THE TEXT AND ALL THE DIFFERENT CONTROLS YOU CAN PUT ON THE TEXT

<MaggieB> i dont know what they are!

<Janet> YEP, SAVE 'EM FOR NOW

<Janet> MAGGIE, THAT'S WHY YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH 'EM TO SEE WHAT THEY DO

<MaggieB> k

<MomCat> Maggie, you will learn by playing!

<Janet> (AND WE'LL EXPLORE MORE OF 'EM NEXT WEEK TOO)

<deb> ok - saved GalleryGraphic1

<Owen> I will try to get the drive fixed before then. Then we will see, but thanks Janet.

<MaggieB> when we save will it ask what kind of file???

<deb> no

<Janet> IT WILL SAVE IT AS A CDR

MomCat learned nearly all she knows about Corel by playing

<deb> just type your name in

<MaggieB> k

<deb> and hit enter

<Janet> IF YOU WANTED IT (AFTER IT WAS PERFECT) IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT, YOU'D CHOOSE TO EXPORT IT

<Janet> SAVE ALWAYS DOES CDR

<Vyx> or save as

<MaggieB> and do jpegs etc later?

<MaggieB> when needed?

<exfastpost> and a dreaded automatic backup

<Janet> REMEMBER "NATIVE FORMAT" FROM LAST CLASS? CDR IS NATIVE FORMAT TO COREL DRAW

<MaggieB> i do

<Janet> NOW GO PLAY!

<Janet> THINK MORE ON YOUR GRAPHIC

<deb> cool

<MaggieB> that is it???

<MaggieB> ok

<deb> time for class

<Janet> SEARCH OUT FONTS

<Janet> PLAY

<Janet> PLAY

<Janet> PLAY

<Vyx> okay... in another class. :)

<stampnbev> Thanks Janet!

<Vyx> great class Janet

<MaggieB> anyplace to look for fonts janet???

<Janet> (MEET YOU ALL IN MAGNET CLASS NOW)

<exfastpost> Ohh, thank you, Janet!

<rave> oh this KhakiTwo is a cool font....

<MaggieB> that you like?

<Janet> LOOK IN THE SCRIPTORIUM

<Janet> I LOVE THOSE AND THEY GOT A LOT OF FREE ONES

<cak> thank you Janet--good to be back to software learning again?

<qkdeb> thanks for your patience

<MaggieB> k ty

<Janet> YAY!

<Janet> HAVE FUN!

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