<kat> hi all

<Janet> Maggie, you are such an optimist. :)

<Janet> hi, Kat!

<Janet> and Maggie and Charlotte

<kat> thanks marge

<MaggieB> me???

<MaggieB> of course i am an optimist

<MaggieB> what did i do now?

<Janet> the topic.<g> that I could make this easy.

<MaggieB> ohhhhh

<Janet> although it IS easy.

<MaggieB> oh

<Janet> except it's a whole new way of looking at stuff.

<MaggieB> hey i figured out how to make a transparency with corel!

<MaggieB> with a gif!

<Janet> oh wow! yay you!!!

<MaggieB> oh

<MaggieB> k

<MaggieB> i wanted to make a logo for the class page

<MaggieB> and i wanted the wallpaper to show through

<MaggieB> so i went searching!

<Janet> so you poked at the export area!

<Janet> Hey, Vyx!

<Vyx> hallo! am I late?

<MaggieB> welll

<Janet> Nope, just on time.

<MaggieB> someone last week asked me how to convert to jpeg

<MaggieB> in corel

<MaggieB> she thougth it couldnt do it

<MaggieB> so while on chat

<MaggieB> i figured it out for her

<MaggieB> to internet

<Janet> that's a side benefit of Corel, that it will file convert a lot of things to a lot of different things

<kat> I got throught the log Maggie e-mailed me and got my sheet of typestyles done

<MaggieB> and then i had to figure out for me how to let it show through

<MaggieB> cool kat

<Janet> Excellent, Kat! What font did you end up choosing for yours?

<kat> It's a lot like Publisher.

<kat> yes

<Janet> In a lot of ways it is.

<MaggieB> i like publisher

<Janet> And it's almost identical to Adobe Illustrator

<MaggieB> but not many people have it

MaggieB> so cannot send them files from it

<Janet> there is Deb. :)

<MaggieB> oh here is bday girl

<Vyx> My sister sent me Adobe something. Couldn't stand it, soooo sloooow.

<Janet> No but you can export your corel creations to almost anything.

<deb-OLD45> I"m here I"m here

<Janet> happy birthday, Deb.

<MaggieB> adobe works good with more simms

<MaggieB> in your computer

<deb-OLD45> thanks Janet

<Janet> 45 doesn't look old from here. :)

<MaggieB> not here either

<cak> It's your BD??!! Happy Birthday!

<Vyx> I have plenty of ram.

<MaggieB> i already told her that

<Vyx> Happy B-day Deb

<MaggieB> hmmm still running slow?

<deb-OLD45> thanks cak and Vyx and Janet

<MaggieB> how much ram?

<Janet> 383 here

<MaggieB> ok showoff

<Janet> LOL

<MaggieB> you ARE a graphic artist

<Janet> memory is cheap right now.

<Vyx> plenty. :)

<MaggieB> you NEED it

<MaggieB> yep

<MaggieB> i have 292

<MaggieB> 192

<deb-OLD45> I have 128

<MaggieB> sorry

<deb-OLD45> or sometkhing like that

<Vyx> I have 160 or something like that.

<Janet> doing graphics AND being impatient as all get out, I figured memory was a good investment

<Vyx> Anyhow. I don't need the adobe program since I got Corel.

<MaggieB> yes

<MaggieB> that it is

<Janet> So did you all do your homework?

<deb-OLD45> I need to find my receipt and then get some more RAM

<MaggieB> receipt?

<Janet> Deb, putting in memory with your own hands is easy. Trust me.

<deb-OLD45> so I know how much ram I have and what kind

<deb-OLD45> I know - I did it with the old puter

<MaggieB> oh i see

<deb-OLD45> just have to know what kind to buy

<MaggieB> really easy

<MaggieB> just snaps in

<Vyx> Yeah, I yanked my mom's 64 and slapped in a 256.

<MaggieB> yep that you need to know

<Janet> Vyx, I did that just yesterday with the two other computers here.

<Janet> even a laptop is pretty easy to add memory to

<MaggieB> that was the last upgrade i did

<Vyx> her computer is maxed at 256. so my sis's kids got more memory in their 'puter.

<Janet> (except laptop memory is more expensive)

<MaggieB> next time.... new computer

<Janet> OKAY! WHO DID THEIR HOMEWORK?

<cak> (I didn't do my homework, btw)

<Janet> I WANNA KNOW WHAT FONTS YOU ALL DECIDED ON

<MaggieB> oh crap

<deb-OLD45> I played with all the fonts

<Vyx> I did ^t. that was cool.

<kat> B D Merced

<Janet> TSK TSK TSK CHARLOTTE. (SO LIE TO ME AND MAKE UP A FONT)

<deb-OLD45> and even loaded some new ones

<deb-OLD45> > )

<Owen> Still can't get the cd to work.

<MaggieB> i made a logo!

<MaggieB> it is on a webpage!

<Owen> But I have been collecting fonts.<G>

<Janet> YAY MAGGIE!

<MaggieB> count?

<Vyx> wtg Maggie

<Janet> POOR OWEN

<deb-OLD45> my favorite was HourFoto font

<Janet> I NEED TO MAIL YOU A CD DRIVE. I HAVE A FEW SCRAGS LAYING AROUND HERE.

<MaggieB> now i need my dm website to load it to

<Owen> I liked HourFoto too.

<Janet> AND THAT'S WAITING ON NIC TO FIGURE OUT HIS OWN FIREWALL IN HIS HOME.

<deb-OLD45> sinc ei used the word GALLERY

<MaggieB> hourfoto?

<deb-OLD45> for my sample

<Owen> That would be a blessing Janet.

<Janet> UNLESS I GO BEGGING TO ANDY AGAIN

<deb-OLD45> it looks like film maggie

<MaggieB> cool

<Janet> OWEN, I NEED TO DO IT. I HAVE FOUR SEMI-DEAD COMPUTERS IN THE GARAGE. AND NONE OF 'EM HAVE A BAD CD DRIVE. I JUST NEED TO PICK ONE OUT TO PLUNDER.

<Owen> It is very cool if you find a need for it. I found a really neat Anglo-Saxon style font too.

<MaggieB> i needed a box font

<Janet> (YOU WANT A HARD DRIVE, UH, WELL, NONE OF THE FOUR HAVE A RELIABLE HD)

<Janet> LIKE A BOXY LOOK?

<MaggieB> and i use BDRenaisance

<MaggieB> for Out of the BOX

<Janet> OOOO THAT'S A PRETTY FONT.

<MaggieB> class

<MaggieB> it is a box

<MaggieB> so BOX is those fonts

<deb-OLD45> I don't have that one

<MaggieB> along with the M and B in MaggieB

<MaggieB> it came on corel i think

<MaggieB> my select edition

<deb-OLD45> reall

<MaggieB> cut down version

<deb-OLD45> what is it called???

<Janet> I WAS A SHOWOFF OR ELSE AN UNDECIDED, I WENT WITH BEAUTIFUL INK FOR THE CAPITAL LETTERS AND GARAMOND LIGHT FOR THE LOWER CASE LETTERS

<MaggieB> i think it was BD Renaisance?

<deb-OLD45> ok - let me look again

<Janet> SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO MESS AROUND WITH OUR LOGOS AND MAYBE DRAW AN OBJECT TO ADD INTO THEM

<Janet> BUT MESSING WITH THE TEXT FIRST

<deb-OLD45> nope

<kat> that is a really pretty font

<deb-OLD45> don't see that or renaisance

<Vyx> how can I tile the open programs?

<Vyx> (is ashamed she doesn't know how)

<Janet> SO OPEN YOUR LOGOS AND FIRST THING YOU DO, GO INTO THE FILE MENU AND CHOOSE "SAVE AS" AND SAVE THIS ONE AS A DIFFERENT NAME.

<kat> that's ok vyx, I don't know what you mean by tile

<Janet> VYX, JUST GRAB AHOLD OF THE SIDES OF THE WINDOWS AND DRAG 'EM TO HOW YOU WANT 'EM

<Vyx> Oh. Okay, no automagic tile button. :)

<Janet> THERE'S NO AUTO-TILE LIKE THERE IS IN MOST PROGRAMS (A LACK I THINK)

<Janet> HI, CATHY.

<Owen> Hi Cathy.

<Vyx> Windows USED to have some functional stuff. sheesh.

<Janet> SO DOES EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR COREL DRAW OPEN, THEIR LOGOS LOADED AND SAVED AS A NEW FILE NAME?

<Janet> (EXCEPT OWEN WHO WILL NEED ME TO MAIL HIM A CD DRIVE)

<deb-OLD45> yes

<Janet> (AND CAK WHO DOESN'T HAVE COREL ON THAT MAC O HERS)

<MotF> HI.. no.. don't have it.. {sigh} see you all later. Have a good class.

<deb-OLD45> I hae the original page and now a page 2

<deb-OLD45> with JUST 1 image on it

<cak> yes (she lies)

<Janet> OKAY THAT WILL WORK!

<deb-OLD45> Gallery - in the Photo font

<Vyx> yep

<Janet> OKAY!

<Janet> LET'S MAKE OUR LETTERS A DIFFERENT COLOR FIRST

<deb-OLD45> centered in the top 1/3 of the page

<Vyx> oh goody!

<Janet> CLICK ON YOUR LOGO WITH YOUR ARROW TOOL (THE FIRST ONE AT THE TOP)

<Janet> RAVEN! (OPEN YOUR LOGO, SAVE AS A NEW NAME, AND CLICK ON IT, WE'RE GONNA PLAY WITH COLORS NOW)

<Janet> YOU'LL GET THE BOX HANDLES AGAIN.

<Janet> OH. BEFORE WE PLAY WITH COLORS, LET'S MAKE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT, NOT SO OUT OF THE BOX LOOKING...

ravenAFK will try to sit still in class but her server may have other ideas

<Janet> CLICK IT AGAIN AND YOUR SQUARE HANDLE DEALIES TURN INTO SORT OF ARROW LOOKING DEALIES

<deb-OLD45> k

Janet USES HER LASSO TOOL TO TIE RAVEN TO THE SERVER

<Janet> GRAB ONE OF THOSE ARROW DEALIES AND DRAG A LITTLE BIT

<Janet> AND COOL!

deb-OLD45 double ducttapes raven

<Janet> YOU CAN MAKE YOUR LOGO ALL WHOPPYJAWED

<deb-OLD45> whoa!!!

<deb-OLD45> ok - I"m taking up half the top half of the page now all whopyjawed

<Janet> (SO THIS IS WHY WE'VE SAVED AS A NEW NAME, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA JUST MESS WITH OUR STUFF)

<Janet> NOW SEE THE LIL TARGET IN THE MIDDLE?

<deb-OLD45> yes

<MaggieB> yes

<Janet> WHEN YOU GRAB ON THE CURVY ARROWS ON THE CORNERS, YOU CAN ROTATE YOUR LOGO AT WILL

<Janet> BUT SUPPOSE YOU JUST WANT TO SPIN IT ON ITS END...

<Janet> THAT CIRCLE DEALIE MOVES YOUR CENTER OF GRAVITY TO WHEREVER YOU PUT IT

<Janet> SO YOU CAN ROTATE, NOT JUST FROM THE MIDDLE, BUT FROM WHEREVER YOU WANT TO

<MaggieB> so we move it?

<Janet> SO MOVE THAT AND DO SOME SPINNING

<Janet> YEP

<Janet> PLAY WITH IT

<Janet> MOVE THE CIRCLE TARGET THING SOMEWHERE BESIDES THE MIDDLE AND SEE HOW THAT CHANGES HOW THINGS ROTATE AROUND

<deb-OLD45> hmm I can't get it to do anything??

<Janet> YOU MOVE THE CIRCLE DEALIE, DEB, THEN GRAB ONE OF THE CURVY ARROWS ON THE CORNER TO ROTATE

<deb-OLD45> oh hold on

<deb-OLD45> OH

<MaggieB> does it really move differently?

<MaggieB> still on diagonal

<Janet> IT REALLY DOES, MAGGIE

<MaggieB> k

<Janet> WHEN YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE ITEM ESPECIALLY YOU CAN SEE A DIFFERENCE

<Vyx> way different. had to discard and start over I got so wonky

<Janet> IT'S LIKE SPINNING SOMETHING WHEN YOU HAVE THE PIN IN THE MIDDLE OR IF YOU HAVE THE PIN ON AN EDGE

<MaggieB> k

<MaggieB> now that i made it bigger

<MaggieB> i can see it now kind of whopper jawed

<Janet> YEP, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO UNDER FILE AND CHOOSE "REVERT" AND IT WILL RELOAD IT FROM WHERE IT WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAVED IT

<Janet> SO REMEMBER THE FUNKY HANDLES, YOU GET THOSE BY DOUBLE CLICKING

<MaggieB> revert?

<MaggieB> as opposed to undo>?

<Janet> AND YOU CLICK AGAIN TO TOGGLE IT BACK TO REGULAR

<Janet> YEP, REVERT WILL GO BACK, ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE LAST TIME YOU SAVED THE FILE

<kat> I can'g find the revert

<MaggieB> no revert under fule

<Janet> KAT, IT'S UNDER THE FILE MENU

<MaggieB> not on ours

<Vyx> huh

<Janet> OR MAYBE IT MIGHT NOT BE ON YOURS. YOU MAY JUST HAVE TO CLOSE IT AND REOPEN IT TO DISCARD ALL YOUR CHANGES

<Janet> WELL AND IF YOU NEVER HAVE SAVED A FILE, IT WILL BE GRAYED OUT

<Vyx> (which works, I have revert but didn't know what it was)

<cak> (the poor man's revert)

<Janet> LOL YEP

<Janet> SO LET'S GO FIND US SOME COLORS.

<Janet> HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE A SORT OF COLOR PALETTE RUNNING DOWN THE SIDE?

<MaggieB> me me me

<cak> I do (she lies)

<kat> Our revert pops up when you try to open a new file

<deb-OLD45> it's under the file menu

<MaggieB> heh heh

<kat> I do

<Janet> LOL

<deb-OLD45> me me me

<Janet> OKAY!

<deb-OLD45> I"m now red gallery

<Janet> CLICK ON A COLOR (WITH YOUR LOGO HIGHLIGHTED ALREADY)

<Janet> KEWL!

<deb-OLD45> all red and cattywhamped

<MaggieB> how did you highlight it?

<deb-OLD45> just click

<MaggieB> oh ok

<deb-OLD45> on your image

<Janet> JUST CLICK ON IT, WHEN THE HANDLES ARE VISIBLE THAT MEANS IT'S SELECTED.

<MaggieB> k

<Janet> THEN CLICK ON A COLOR

<MaggieB> cool

<Janet> BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

<Janet> NOW RIGHT-CLICK ON A DIFFERENT COLOR

<MaggieB> i suppose the better the version the more colors?

<MaggieB> a shadow!

<MaggieB> neat

<deb-OLD45> WHOA

<deb-OLD45> I'm now purple with red

<Janet> YOU SUPPOSE WRONG (AND YAY FOR THAT)... YOU CAN MIX ANY COLOR YOU WANT... (THAT'S NEXT)

<MaggieB> so am i deb!

<deb-OLD45> too cool

<MaggieB> red & purple

<MaggieB> lol

<deb-OLD45> must be red and purple night

<Janet> WHAT THE RIGHT CLICKING DOES IS MAKE THE LINE OF YOUR FONT WHATEVER COLOR YOU RIGHT CLICKED

<Vyx> Oh gosh! way cool!

<Janet> BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

<Vyx> I did pink and blue

<Janet> (LOL I CRACK MYSELF UP)

<deb-OLD45> lol

<Janet> NOW THE NEXT TO THE LAST TOOL, LOOKS LIKE A PEN NIB...

<MaggieB> yes?

<Janet> CLICK AND HOLD ON THAT AND YOU GET A FLYOUT MENU THINGIE...

<deb> wait

<cak> (I keep thinking you're gonna offer something the $19.95)

<Janet> AND YOU CAN PICK A LINE WIDTH OUTTA THAT

<cak> (something for )

<deb> hmm

<Janet> JANET'S CORELOMATIC!

<Vyx> ACK!

<deb> is it the freehand tool??

<MaggieB> is that a word???

<MaggieB> lol

<cak> lol--if only it was 19.95

<Janet> CORELOMATIC? LOL

<Janet> NO, IT IS THE LINE TOOL

<deb> wait

<Janet> IT LOOKS LIKE A PEN NIB

<Vyx> I guess that could be good, but my first choice was the fattest width.

<Vyx> I ended up with a bunch of blobs.

<Janet> AND YOU'VE GOT CHOICES LIKE A COLOR WHEEL AND A BUNCH OF LINE WIDTHS

<deb> hmm

<deb> which tool bar?

<Janet> AND ANOTHER PEN NIB INSIDE THE PEN NIB CHOICES

<deb> on the left

<Janet> ON THE LEFT, SEE THE PEN NIB?

<Vyx> It says "outline tool" when I hold my mouse over it.

<Janet> IS PROBABLY THE NEXT TO THE LAST TOOL

<deb> how many down?

<Janet> THAT'S THE ONE!

<Janet> DEB, COUNT UP FROM THE BOTTOM, SHOULD BE THE SECOND ONE UP

<deb> hold on

<Janet> THE FIRST ONE UP IS YOUR FILL COLOR MENU

<deb> let me enlarge the screen

<Janet> (WE'LL PLAY IN THAT ONE NOW)

<Janet> (OR RATHER NEXT)

<deb> well crap

<deb> it's there the whole damned time

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> LOL

<deb> needeed a bigger scren

<deb> ok - I found it

<Janet> (I KNEW THAT, DEB)

<deb> now what do I do with it

<Vyx> Oh wow, you can change the line so it's dotted or whatever.

deb bops janet

<MaggieB> yes, my 15" monitor isnt making it

<Janet> CLICK AND HOLD ON IT AND MORE CHOICES POP OUTTA IT

<MaggieB> dotted?

<deb> well - I had half pirch and half corel

<Janet> YEAH!

<Vyx> Yeah, this is way cool.

<Vyx> I need a different font to play with.

<Janet> YOU CAN CHANGE THE WIDTH OF YOUR OUTLINE...

<deb> damnit

<deb> my image diasppeared??

<Janet> YOU CAN CHANGE A LOT OF STUFF ABOUT YOUR OUTLINE, PICK THE NIB TOOL INSIDE THE NIB MENU

<Janet> IT WILL COME BACK, DEB.

<Janet> (IT'S MERELY SLEEPING)

<Janet> (I'M LYIN, BUT IT'S THERE SOMEWHERE)

<Janet> LOOK AT ALL THOSE LINE CHOICES!

<Janet> YOU CAN MAKE A DASHED LINE, LOTS OF CHOICES ON THAT...

<Janet> YOU CAN MAKE AN ARROW OUT OF IT!

<Janet> YOU CAN CHANGE THE WIDTH BY NUMBER, SO YOU CAN BE REALLY PRECISE ABOUT HOW WIDE YOU WANT IT

<MaggieB> how did you get dashed line?

<Janet> A GOOD ONE TO DO IS TO MAKE YOUR LINE SCALE WITH IMAGE

<deb> I can't see a change with the particular font I have

<Janet> MAGGIE, UNDER THE PEN NIB, WHEN YOU HOLD IT DOWN, IS ANOTHER PEN NIB CHOICE

<MaggieB> got that

<Janet> IT WILL OPEN A WHOLE LINE PROPERTY DIALOG BOX

<MaggieB> oh under STYLE!

<Janet> CLICK ON THE STYLE YES!

<Janet> NOW YOUR FONT WON'T PROBABLY WON'T SHOW UP WITH THE ARROW CHOICES, BUT LATER WHEN WE DRAW LINES, YOU CAN PUT AN ARROW POINT ON YOUR LINES

<Janet> SO REMEMBER WHERE THAT IS AT

<cak> Did I do something screwy with my Corel at work? I access the line and fill with boxes at the bottom right of my screen--

<Janet> IF YOU CLICK THE "SCALE WITH IMAGE" THEN WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR LETTERS LARGER OR SMALLER, THE LINE WILL STAY PROPORTIONAL.

<Janet> IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO

<MaggieB> what does scale with image do?

<MaggieB> oh ok

<MaggieB> thinking ahead, sorry

<Janet> IT TIES THE WIDTH OF YOUR OUTLINE TO THE SIZE OF YOUR FONT

<MaggieB> oh ok

<Janet> IN FACT, DEB. YOU CAN MAKE YOUR LOGO HUGE SO YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGES IN IT IF YOU WANT

<Janet> AND THEN MAKE IT SMALLER AGAIN WHEN YOU LIKE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE

<Janet> I DO THAT A LOT, MAKE IT SO HUGE I CAN ONLY FIT LIKE ONE LETTER OF IT ON THE PAGE

<MaggieB> wow that is huge

<Janet> THEN MAKE IT THE RIGHT SIZE AGAIN WHEN I'M FINISHED MUCKING WITH IT

<deb> ok hold on

<deb> hmm

<Janet> YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR LINE CAPS. NOT SO CRITICAL WITH A FONT USUALLY, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A DRAWING, YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE YOUR LINE ENDS ROUNDED OR POINTY, SO REMEMBER WHERE THAT IS AT

<Janet> AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OUTLINE LOOK LIKE IT WAS DONE WITH A CALLIGRAPHY PEN, WITH WIDE AND THIN STROKES?

<Janet> AND EVEN ADJUST THE SIZE AND SLANT OF THE PEN

<Janet> ARE WE HAVING RUN?

<Janet> FUN?

<Janet> (DON'T RUN, NOT YET<G>)

<MaggieB> what is behind fill?

<cak> yes! lots o' good stuff

<Janet> MAGGIE, THAT WILL CHANGE WHERE YOUR OUTLINE IS, IF IT IS ON TOP OF THE MIDDLE OF YOUR LETTERS OR BEHIND THEM

<Janet> USUALLY YOU WANT IT BEHIND

<Janet> BUT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T

<MaggieB> k

<Janet> ANOTHER CHOICE TO LOOK AND SEE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU LIKE

<MaggieB> ty

<Owen> We are having some run tonight<G>

<Janet> SO PICK WHATEVER APPEALS OUT OF THAT DIALOG BOX FOR NOW, CLICK OKAY TO CLOSE IT.

<Janet> RATS RIGHT, ROWEN

<Janet> (I LOVE THAT DOG)

<MaggieB> heh heh

<Janet> NOW... LET'S OPEN THE COLOR WHEEL CHOICE BEHIND THE PEN NIB

<Vyx> okay, got it

<MaggieB> outline color?

<MaggieB> highlight first?

<Janet> THIS WILL LIKELY LOOK MORE FAMILIAR, IT LOOKS A LOT LIKE THE COLOR MIXER FROM YOUR PAINT PROGRAMS

<MaggieB> yes it does

<MaggieB> adobe

<Janet> OUTLINE COLOR NOW.

<Janet> SO SEE, MAGGIE? YOU GOT A MILLION CHOICES! YAY!

<MaggieB> yay!

MaggieB loves COLOR!

<Janet> AND WHEN YOU GET REAL HARD CORE, YOU CAN PICK WHAT KIND OF COLOR MODEL YOU WANT TO BE PICKING OUT OF

<MaggieB> color model?

<Janet> LIKE IF YOU'RE TAKING YOUR COREL FILE TO A PRINT SHOP, BUT NOT USING PROCESS COLOR, YOU'D LIKELY WANT TO PICK YOUR COLORS OUT OF THE PANTONE PALETTE

<Owen> Colour model?

<Vyx> it's set to cmyk

<Janet> CHANGE IT TO PANTONE, JUST FOR GRINS

<Janet> AND LOOKIE! ALL THE COLORS HAVE NUMBERS

<MaggieB> how?

<Vyx> um, doesn't have pantone in the list.

<MaggieB> list?

<Janet> UNDER FIXED PALETTES i THINK

<Vyx> okay lemme look

<deb> mine isn't changing though

<Janet> IT'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE... THAT'S ONE CHOICE THAT SEEMS TO MOVE WITH EVERY NEW VERSION

<Janet> YOUR COLOR WON'T CHANGE, BUT THE NAME OF IT WILL

<Vyx> Right, fixed palettes, and a whole slew of pantones

<MaggieB> oh under model?

<MaggieB> no fixed, no pantones

<Janet> YEP, BUT AT LEAST IN THE REGULAR VERSION 9, IT'S TABS ACROSS THE TOP

<Janet> RATHER THAN UNDER THE DROP DOWN MODEL MENU

<MaggieB> all i have is a drop down box

<MaggieB> no pantones

<Janet> THEN DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. (SOONER OR LATER YOU'LL FIND IT, WHEN YOU NEED IT, WHICH MAY BE NEVER)

<MaggieB> k

<Janet> WHEN YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW A PANTONE NUMBER, YOU'LL SEARCH THE HELP SCREENS. IT'S NOT REAL IMPORTANT NOW, WAS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU CAN PICK COLORS

<Janet> SO YOU'VE GOT AN OUTLINE YOU LIKE...

<Janet> LET'S GO PLAY IN THE FILL COLOR CHOICES

<Janet> THAT'S UNDER THE PAINTBUCKET TOOL, PROBABLY THE LAST ONE IN YOUR TOOLBAR

<Janet> THE "FILL" WAS THE COLOR THAT THE REGULAR CLICK GOT YOU

<MaggieB> and click on?

<Janet> BUT YOU HAVE SO MANY MORE CHOICES...

<Vyx> WOW, this is fun! Textures!

<Janet> IF YOU CLICK THE COLOR WHEEL CHOICE, YOU GET A DIALOG BOX SIMILAR TO THE ONE WE WERE JUST PLAYING WITH IN THE OUTLINES

<Janet> BUT YOU CAN PICK THE TEXTURE ONE, OR THE GRADIANT FILL ONE (CALLED FOUNTAIN FILL HERE I THINK)

<Janet> HIYA RED

<Janet> LOOK AT ALL THOSE CHOICES!

Redstick waves and smiles

<Vyx> Gosh, now I want to change fonts again. :)

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> WHAT IS WAY COOL?

<Janet> YOU CAN CHANGE FONTS AND ALL THE CHOICES YOU'VE PICKED FOR THIS ONE? THEY STAY PICKED.

<Janet> SPARKLE!

<Janet> OPEN YOUR COREL DRAW AND PLAY ALONG, WE'RE PLAYING WIF OUR COLORS AND PENS NOW

<sparkle> I'm home!

<sparkle> ok

<Janet> YAY!

<Janet> SO LIKE IF YOU TOTALLY LOVE YOUR OUTLINE PEN CHOICE AND YOUR COLORS AND FILLS?

<Janet> YOU CAN EXPERIMENT AND SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE WITH OTHER FONTS

<MaggieB> yeppers!

<MaggieB> i just have to do my logo again!

<Janet> OR IF YOU WERE DOING A WHOLE BROCHURE, YOU COULD COPY AND PASTE AND THEN CHANGE THE FONTS OR SIZES OR WHATNOT AND BE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR COLORS THROUGH THE WHOLE THING IF YOU WANT TO BE

<MaggieB> hey class is still 2 weeks away!

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> AND YOU CAN PLAY WITH YOUR LOGO UP TO 10 MINUTES FROM THE START OF THE CLASS.

Janet WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OH NO.

<Vyx> I love fountain fill! I LOVE textures>

<MaggieB> no i dont think so janet

<MaggieB> i would be a nervous wreck!

<MaggieB> already am

<MaggieB> just thinking about class

<Janet> USUALLY WHEN THE PAGE IS LOADING AS I'M STARTING A CLASS, IT'S BECAUSE I'VE CHANGED THE GRAPHICS (AGAIN) AT THE LAST MINUTE

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> MAGGIE, WE'LL BE KIND.

<MaggieB> k

<Vyx> It's a heck of a lot easier to do this in class, than trying to remember like I did for the first one.

<MaggieB> promise?

<Owen> But what kind?

<MaggieB> heh heh

<Janet> I PROMISE TO BE KIND (TO YOUR FACE<G>)

<deb> hey

<MaggieB> MIZ JANET!

<Janet> LOL

<sparkle> lol

<MaggieB> weird how after teaching nationally this online class gives me the heebie jeebies

<MaggieB> just new

<Janet> SO YOUR HOMEWORK FOR NEXT WEEK (I'M SUCH A HARD ONE) IS TO PLAY WITH YOUR COLORS AND TEXTURES AND FILLS, TO PLAY WITH YOUR OUTLINE CHOICES...

<MaggieB> different

<MaggieB> oh fun!

<MaggieB> cool

<Vyx> I'll be playing with more fonts, too!

<MaggieB> i will play with my class logo!

<Janet> IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME, TEACHING ONLINE. SCARIER, BUT ALSO EASIER BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR PANTS

<Vyx> rotf

<MaggieB> lol

<MaggieB> thanks janet

<Janet> (AND I NEVER DO)

<deb> lol

<MaggieB> i needed to know that

<deb> TMI

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> LL

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> AND ALSO PLAY WITH DRAWING SHAPES.

deb pokes a french fiy in janet's mouf

<MaggieB> how do we do that????

<Janet> SEE THE CIRCLE TOOL? AND THE SQUARE DEALIE TOOL?

<MaggieB> oval?

<Janet> POKE AROUND ON THOSE.

<Vyx> outline> magenta hairline fill> fountain blue to yellow. It looks good, but I like colorful stuff.

<Janet> YEP OVAL TOOL

<MaggieB> dont see a circle

<Janet> WOW VYX, THAT WILL NOT PUT YOU TO SLEEP

<MaggieB> square and oval

<Janet> OVAL IS GOOD

<deb> I was GONNA suggest a camera so we could see janet's screen but NOT NOW

<Vyx> I see ellipse, rectangle and polygon tools...

<deb> janet would MOON us

<Janet> AND NEXT WEEK I'LL TEACH YA HOW TO CHANGE THOSE TO DIFFERENT SHAPES

<Janet> I'M LOVELY SITTING HERE. IN MY SLEEPERS, CUP OF COFFEE AT ONE HAND, OVERFLOWING ASHTRAY AT THE OTHER

<Janet> AND TOTAL CHAOS BEHIND ME

<Janet> BUT MY HAIR IS CURLY!

<Vyx> I have a big spiral on top of my stuff now.

<deb> TMI

<sparkle> curly?

<MaggieB> why is it all texans smoke still????

<Janet> YEAH, AMAZING, HUH.

<sparkle> what'd TB do to scare that much?

<MaggieB> spiral?

<MaggieB> how did you do spiral?

<Janet> WE HEAR THAT IT ISN'T GOOD FOR YA AND WE THINK "WE'LL SHOW YOU"

MaggieB LOVES spirals!

<Vyx> Yeah, polygon shape I held down the button and a little menu came out.

<Janet> SPIRAL IS UNDER THE POLYGON TOOL I THINK

<kat> the spiral tool

<Owen> So maybe I don't want to move home to Texas.

<Owen> I could never smoke again.

<Janet> ALL THOSE SHAPE ONES HAVE MORE CHOICES BEHIND THEM

<MaggieB> but it just rides in the air

<Janet> OWEN, YOU'D DO SOMETHING ELSE INSTEAD

<Owen> Well of course.

<Janet> MAGGIE, YOU SLIDE YOUR MOUSE OVER TO THE ONE YOU WANT TO PICK IT

<MaggieB> never mind

<Owen> I have plenty of bad habits.

<MaggieB> dd it

<Owen> Just not that one.

<Janet> THEN RELEASE IT HWEN IT'S ON YOUR CHOICE

<Janet> YAY!

<Janet> SO HOMEWORK IS TO PLAY! PLAY WITH COLORS. PLAY WITH FILLS. PLAY WITH SHAPES.

<MaggieB> cool

<Janet> LEAVE NO MENU BUTTON UNPOKED!

<MaggieB> fun homework

<MaggieB> ok

<deb> lol

<MaggieB> there are sooo many of them

<Vyx> And Revert revert revert if you mess it up so bad you can't do an undo. :)

<Janet> I KNOW!

<Janet> YEAH, AND IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE, SAVE IT.

<MaggieB> but that is what is scary

<MaggieB> k

<Janet> AND OPEN IT AND RENAME IT AGAIN TO A NEW DIFFERENT NAME

<MaggieB> oh k

<MaggieB> so you give yourself options

<Janet> NEXT WEEK WE WILL PLAY WITH OUR SHAPES AND ALSO GET INTO MUCKING WITH THAT SHAPE TOOL

<MaggieB> woohoo

<deb> janet - can you reduce MY shape???

<MaggieB> with a diet???

<MaggieB> lol

Janet CLICKS ON DEB'S LOVE HANDLES

<MaggieB> sorry

<MaggieB> lol

<deb> oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that tickles

<MaggieB> you walked right into that one deb!

<Vyx> I've lost 10 lbs, speaking of diets.

<MaggieB> very good vyx!

<deb> I think I gained 5 back

<Janet> ME DOUBLE CLICKS AND MOVES DEB'S BUTT CURVES UP TO HER BUST

<MaggieB> thats ok too

<Janet> (DON'T YA WISH i COULD DO THAT IN REAL LIFE?)

<deb> OH MY GOD

<deb> now I can't breathe

<Vyx> But can I credit the diet when I've also started smoking again?

Janet WATCHES DEB FALL OVER FROM BEING TOP HEAVY

<MaggieB> well should we all move to fresco class???

<deb> lol

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> VYX, LIFE IS A CHOICE.

<deb> ok ok

<MaggieB> no time to get a drink!

<deb> thanks janet

<Janet> YES, LET'S MOVE TO FRESCO CLASS!

<MaggieB> ty janet

<MaggieB> great class

<MaggieB> as usual

<Janet> (YOU'LL HAVE TIME TO GET A DRINK, FRESCO TEACHER IS YOU. SURPRISE)

<Vyx> Thanks for a great class, janet!

<MaggieB> and yes you made it easy

<kat> thanks janet

<Janet> HAVE FUN! DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!

<Vyx> lol

<MaggieB> not me

<MaggieB> will do

<cak> Yes, thank you once again Janet

<MaggieB> see you in fresco class

<Janet> Thank you all. I'm gonna go to craftclass before I get my drink refill

<Owen> nite

<Owen> Later.

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