<Mary_ray> I've got my sculpey in the fridge, oh teacher

<Vyx> Yikes, MaryRay, take it out!

<Mary_ray> oh, okay - i thought it would need to be cool

<Vyx> How long ya wanna wait until I start?

<Mary_ray> Vyx, I'm worried because I don't have everything I need for class. (I'm the one with the new pasta machine.)

<Vyx> What are you needing, MaryRay?

<Vyx> And I have a page up with instructions, so later on you could go back there. It'll stay up forever.

<Zarawyn> Who does the web page, Momma? Surely not you.

<Vyx> I did so.

<Mary_ray> Well, I don't have a tissue blade, translucent clay, wire, wet/dry sand paper and my clay is sculpey vs. fimo or other type.

<beanjean1> http://www.hgtv.com/HGTV/episode/0,1101,CRHO_episode_7395,FF.html

<Zarawyn> No way.

<beanjean1> hey Mary ray go check that out....

<Janet> Vyx made her own page

<Vyx> Sheesh. go check it out Sarah. www.dm.net/~vyxxan

<Mary_ray> okay, bj

<Janet> You should be okay, Mary Ray

<Janet> Hiya, Linda

<Janet> Is this your Sarah, Vyx?

<beanjean1> hey paperpusher

<beanjean1> it is janet

<Vyx> Yep, Janet. Meet my DD. :)

<Zarawyn> How do I use those Ops?

<paperpushe> Hey folks!!

<Vyx> You don't need to, kiddo.

<beanjean1> can't you tell, she's raggin' on her momma

<jenmist> hi

<Janet> Sarah, only for good, never for evil.

<Vyx> LOL

<deb> zarawyn - type /me zara

<Zarawyn> LOL I don't even know what they are.

<Vyx> Lemme know when y'all are ready.

<Janet> I'm ready!!

<Zarawyn> What else can I do?

<enchy> hey yama

<deb> nothing but messages

<paperpushe> I'm ready as I'll ever be! LOL

<enchy> hey kathyjo

<Vyx> Well, for instance, you could kick someone outta the room. Or make them "read only"

<Mary_ray> thanks BJ, one of those projects calls for "soft" fimo

<yamaANDkat> hi enchy

<deb> but start them out with /me

deb looks at zarawyn

<yamaANDkat> kathyjo says hi too

<Zarawyn> me Zara

<deb> hi yamaANDkathyjo

Zarawyn Zara

<deb> put / in front

jenmist thinks be careful, once I locked the whole room

<Vyx> hiya Yama and Kathyjo

<Zarawyn> Ah, I see.

<Janet> LOL

Zarawyn grins.

<yamaANDkat> hi vickie,,

<beanjean1> ready Vyx, when you are!

<enchy> i saw pictures of the yama baby!!!

<deb> you can do th at

<beanjean1> hi yama

<enchy> she is beUUUtiful

<beanjean1> and kathy

<deb> but don't go to the ops box

<yamaANDkat> isn't she cute enchy?

<enchy> yes

<Vyx> Okay, putting on caps NOW

<paperpushe> ty deb

<enchy> she is baeUUUtiful

<deb> yw

<Janet> okay!

beanjean1 didn't see the yamababy

yamaANDkathyjo sit back and let the teacher talk

<deb> ok - let's keep conversations to a minimum during class

<beanjean1> ok

<deb> you can use private message or chat in cyberstampers

<deb> go Vyx

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<Vyx> REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS CANE IS CONDITION ALL THE CLAY!

<Janet> How do you condition, Vyx?

<Mary_ray> what's the log command cak?

<Mary_ray> oops

<Vyx> YOU CAN DO IT AS YOU GO ALONG, DON'T HAVE TO DO IT ALL BEFORE HAND.

<Janet> Tell me how to condition again?

<Vyx> WELL, FOR SMALL BITS WORK IT WITH YOUR HANDS UNTIL IT'S NICE AND SOFT AND WARMED UP

<paperpushe> wow, that is just gorgeous, vyx!!!

<Janet> and how to tell when it's conditioned enough?

<Vaughnde> brb

<Vyx> WHEN IT DOESN'T CRACK TOO MUCH ON THE SIDES WHEN YOU PUT IT THRU THE PASTA MACHINE

<Janet> Hi, Realmswalker. class page is at http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<Mary_ray> I can't get my chat thingee to log!

<realmswalk> what room is this for?

<Janet> You'll have to ask in cyberstampers after class about that, Mary Ray.

<Vyx> SOME CLAYS CRACK NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU SOFTEN THEM UP. METALLICS (PEARLS) MOSTLY

<Janet> This is to learn how to make those polymer clay keychains and pens.

<Vyx> MARYRAY, CAK USUALLY LOGS, AND WILL SEND YOU A COPY

<Mary_ray> okay - I was just trying to save her the trouble

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<Mary_ray> oh, I just remembered the command

<Vyx> START OUT WITH YOUR WHITE CLAY, CONDITION IT. YOU CAN JUST MUSH IT A BIT, THEN START FEEDING IT THRU THE PASTA MACHINE ON THE THICKEST SETTING.

<Janet> okay, so how many small bits of clay should I have?

<Vyx> PASTA MACHINE IS A GREAT HELP WITH CONDITIONING.

<Mary_ray> how many times necessary to condition it?

<Janet is sitting on her clay now, to warm it up

<Vyx> dang it, I haven't got the stuff here...

<Mary_ray> how big a piece of white clay do we need?

<Zarawyn> Forgot your clay?

<Vyx> I'M HAVING TO TEACH THIS WITHOUT HAVING ANY OF MY STUFF WITH ME... BEAR WITH ME IF I JUST DON'T KNOW!

<jenmist> put it in your bra Janet

<Vyx> I STARTED WITH A WHOLE 2 OZ BLOCK OF WHITE.

<Janet> (Jen, that's why I'm sitting on it, no bra tonight<g>)

<beanjean1> Just est. for us Vyx

<Vyx> WELL, SMUSH IT UNTIL YOU CAN GET IT TO FEED INTO THE PASTA MACHINE. RUN IT THRU THE MACHINE, FOLD, FEED IN THE FOLDED BIT FIRST ALWAYS..

<Janet> okay. i'm getting conditioned.

<paperpushe> the folded bit first?

<Vyx> AND DO THAT 4 OR 5 TIMES. OR MORE, UNTIL IT FEELS PRETTY SOFT.

<Vyx> YOU ALWAYS PUT THE FOLD OF CLAY INTO THE MACHINE FIRST SO THAT YOU DON'T TRAP EXCESS AIR

<Zarawyn> Are the pasta machines actually for the polymer clay, or are they real pasta machines being taken advantage of in alternative ways?

<paperpushe> Ah, that makes good sense!

<Vyx> PASTA MACHINES MEANT FOR PASTA BUT USED FOR CLAY ONLY

<cak> Vyx, can you get the clay *too* soft for this?

<Vyx> NOPE

<enchy> my kinda project

<Janet> "taken advantage of" LOL... we abuse small appliances in here all the time.

<Mary_ray> my white is getting some gray lines -- maybe from old black clay having been in machine?

<cak> (not that *that's* usually a problem)

Zarawyn grins.

<Vyx> I CAN'T GET A GOOD LONG RECTANGLE NO MATTER WHAT I DO, SO I ENDED UP STRETCHING MY CLAY TO BE THE APPROX. SIZE I WANTED.

<Janet> (and it's a real pasta machine, not that i've ever made pasta or anything, though)

<Vyx> MARYRAY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

<Mary_ray> okay, what size do we need?

<Vyx> BUT NEXT TIME, TRY TO CLEAN YOUR MACHINE BETTER. :)

<paperpushe> I just got an atlas for clay and never knew what to do with the beast...this is great!

<brenda> sorry i am late

<Janet> we're conditioning now, Brenda

<brenda> yippie then

<brenda> i didnt miss much

Mary_ray will need cleaning instructions later

<Vyx> AFTER YOU CONDITION, GO TO A FAIRLY THIN SETTING AND YOU WANT A LONG PIECE ABOUT 10 INCHES LONG. 3-4 INCHES WIDE.

<Mary_ray> how thin?

<Scout> Saw a thingie today at a garage sale that was labeled past machine, but it didn't look like ones I've seen on Carol Duvall, etc. so I was afraid to buy it.

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<Vaughnde> gotta go...got company. Talk to ya'll laterz

<Vyx> THICK ENOUGH TO WORK WITHOUT IT FALLING APART. THIN ENOUGH TO STRETCH IT A BIT TO GET THE RIGHT SIZE.

<Vyx> SCOUT, THERE ARE FUNNY ONES THAT ARE NO GOOD FOR CLAY. YOU DON'T WANT ONE OF THOSE.

<Janet> like a #4 setting? there around the middle?

<Vyx> YES, AROUND THE MIDDLE

<Janet> okay

<Scout> I guess I'll have to find one in a store and compare it with ones I've seen used on clay.

<Vyx> MY MACHINE DOESN'T HAVE NUMBERS, AND THE THINNEST 4 SETTINGS THE ROLLERS TOUCH SO...

<Vyx> I NEED A NEW MACHINE. :)

<Vyx> dang it, now it's fruit flys in here!

beanjean1 had a brand new one...SIGH

<Janet> okay. i got my long stretch of white. now what do I do?

<Vyx> ONCE YOU GET YOUR WHITE CLAY OUT IN A SORT OF RECTANGLE SHAPE, START CONDITIONING YOUR TRANSLUCENT CLAY

<Mary_ray> My white is long enought but not wide enough, probably need to condition another block of white

<Vyx> WAIT... I'M MISSING A STEP HERE... NEXT CLAY IS A PEARL CLAY. WHITE PEARL

<Janet> okay.

<Mary_ray> what if I don't have translucent - what can I subsitute?

<Vyx> MARYRAY, TRY STRETCHING IT WIDER. OR FOLD IT LAPPING, AND RUN IT BACK THRU THE MACHINE.

<Janet> now if I don't have white pearl can I just skip that part and mine wouldn't look like yours but that's okay?

<Vyx> MARYRAY, SKIP THE TRANSLUCENT CLAY IS ALL. JANET, JUST SKIP THE PEARL.

<Janet> okay

<Janet> (i was gonna, I forgot to get some)

<Vyx> IT WON'T BE AS FANTABULOUS, BUT IT WILL STILL LOOK REALLY NICE, I PROMISE.

<deb> lol

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> okay and i'm layering these on top of each other?

<Vyx> WHICHEVER CLAY YOU ARE USING FOR THE NEXT LAYER, CONDITION IT JUST LIKE BEFORE AND TRY TO GET IT THE SAME SIZE AS THE FIRST LAYER.

<Vyx> YEP, WE ARE GONNA LAYER EM.

<Zarawyn> ...fantabulous...

<Vyx> i know that isn't really a word. :)

Zarawyn crosses her eyes.

<Vyx> LOL

<enchy> umm fantabulous IS a word

<enchy> in enchyland

<Vyx> while we are conditioning... I'll tell y'all how my dd was taking me to dinner... and I ended up paying for it!

<Zarawyn> ACK!

<Janet> you mean moms aren't supposed to always pay?

<Vyx> Okay, she did pay for 1/2 of it

Janet has been doing it wrong then

<cak> I thought that was an honored child-parent tradition--

<brenda> vyx caps please???????

<Vyx> Hey, I was doing all this sewing for her.

<Vyx> oh, sure Charlotte

Zarawyn has shame written all over her face.

<Vyx> WAS JUST TALKING NOT PART OF THE LESSON IN REGULAR

<Vyx> ER, BRENDA

<enchy> when you have a BOYChild - they pay

<brenda> oh ok

<Mary_ray> I think I got the white piece ready - it's not a perfect rectangle, a little curvy -- is that okay?

<Janet> okay. so i'm layering alla my colors now?

<Vyx> THAT'S FINE.

<Vyx> AFTER YOU GET TWO CLAYS ON THERE, GET OUT YOUR BRAYER AND BRAYER EM. WANT A NICE BOND, NO AIR BUBBLES.

<Zarawyn> What's a brayer?

<Janet> okay. i can do that

<Vyx> IT'S A ROLLER THING WITH A HANDLE. LIKE GRANDMA HAS THAT WE USE FOR PIZZA DOUGH.

<Janet> sarah for you, use a rolling pin, to continue the small appliance abuse

<Zarawyn> Ah... I would, Janet, but I'm not taking part in this activity. ;)

<cak> but don't use it for food after comandeering it for pc though

<enchy> fill a pop bottle with water and use it if you don't have a rolling pin or a brayer

<Janet> you sandbagger<g>

<Zarawyn> I don't have any clay or a pasta machine or anything.

<Vyx> SHE HAS RUBBER STAMPS SHE DOESN'T USE. :)

<Zarawyn> Gosh, Mom.

<deb> we have to USE them????

<cak> (and this is different from us because--??)

<enchy> this is the child with the sleeves?

<enchy> this zarawyn girl?

<Vyx> YEP ENCHY. WHICH WE ACTUALLY DID TODAY, AND THEY CAME OUT NICE

<deb> NO one told me we had to USE them

<enchy> great!

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<Vyx> HEY RABBIT

<Zarawyn> :P

enchy runs and kisses the bunny

<RubberRabb> Hi vyx

RubberRabbit hugs enchy

<deb> I just play a stamper in the movies

Vyx ISN'T A STAMPER BUT SHE HAS USED SOME OF HER RUBBERSTAMPS

<Vyx> LOL!

<deb> ; )

<RubberRabb> I just finished stamping some stuff

<brenda> not true deb

<cak> Vyx, you can pop any air bubbles? or is it best to just minimize them?

<deb> uh huh

<Vyx> SO, IF YOU HAVE ALL THE RIGHT COLORS OF CLAY YOU WOULD HAVE FIRST A LAYER OF WHITE, THEN WHITE PEARL, THEN TRANSLUCENT.

<Vyx> POP EM

<deb> translucent is prone to have bubbles

<Vyx> I JUST SLICE INTO THE CLAY WITH MY BLADE AND SMUSH THE AIR OUT

<cak> (thanks--I just know I'm gonna get some when I do this)

<RubberRabb> go sooners

<Janet> yay sooners!

Zarawyn thinks of pimples and winces...

<Vyx> EWWW

<enchy> OUCH

<enchy> YUCK

<deb> lol

<Vyx> WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR LAYERS OF CLAY, YOU CAN START PINCHING OFF BITS OF COLORS, AND KNEADING THEM TO CONDITION.

<deb> there will be no pimple popping in class

<Zarawyn> ...eh, sorry.

<Janet> okay.

<deb> how big vyx?

<deb> size of pea, pecan, walnut?

<Vyx> A BIG PINCH... YOU CAN GO BACK FOR MORE IF YOU NEED MORE.

<Zarawyn> What's a sooner?

<Janet> sarah. eat dirt.

<Vyx> AN OKIE

<deb> opposite of a later

<Vyx> DOUBLE PEA SIZE

<RubberRabb> I'm a sooner

Lory thinks its sooner be one thing than the other

<deb> cool thanks

<RubberRabb> Janet's a sooner

<Zarawyn> I rather prefer the taste of mud.

<Vyx> JANET IS AN EX SOONER, NOW SHE'S A TEXAN

<Mary_ray> do you pinch off colors from layers or other clay? (I know this is a dumb question)

<RubberRabb> nope she's still a sooner

<Janet> i'm sooner born and sooner bred

Chele saw that the Cockroach Hall of Fame (or something like that) is in Plano, TX

<Janet> and when i die i'll be sooner dead

<Vyx> OH, SORRY. PINCH OFF CHUNKS OF COLORED CLAY FROM ANY COLORS YOU HAVE AROUND.

<deb> or later janet

<RubberRabb> ooh spooner bread, I love spooner bread

Mary_ray is having trouble and is about to give up.

<Vyx> I ALSO USED UP SOME BITS OF MARBLED CLAY THAT WASN'T ENOUGH TO DO ANYTHING WITH.

<deb> this is kinda hard to do in class

<Janet> i have many scraps. this is where i shine (making scrap clay)

<deb> mary ray - just get the transcript and follow it tomorrow

<Mary_ray> I can't even get second layer done! you're right deb, I think I'll listen and follow directions tomorrow

<Vyx> MARYRAY, WHAT KIND OF TROUBLE?

<Vyx> PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING A CLASS LIVE.

<Mary_ray> clay is sticking to pasta machine and I can't guestimate chunk to start with to get right ending size 10" x 3"

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<deb> mary ray - just cut it to size

<Mary_ray> now I realize I don't have enough of the color I chose!

<Mary_ray> it's not big enough

<deb> so add some more

<Mary_ray> gotta start with new color - used up all I had and it's not enough

<Vyx> DON'T WORRY ABOUT IF IT COMES OUT IN ONE BIG SHEET...

<deb> ok lol

<Vyx> GO FOR IT, THAT WILL MAKE YOUR CANE A ONE OF A KIND!

<cak> Could you make just a miniature for tonight?

<Mary_ray> oh that's an idea!

<Vyx> CLAY STICKING A LOT TO THE MACHINE MAY MEAN YOU ARE TRYING TO GO TOO THIN.

<Vyx> REALLY, IF YOU CAN'T GET THE CLAY TO MAKE THAT SIZE, JUST MAKE IT SMALLER

<Vyx> (can i get back to steps?)

<brenda> yes

<Vyx> OR ANY MORE QUESTIONS?

<deb> yesh

<deb> not yet

<Vyx> RUN BITS OF CLAY THRU THE MACHINE, SAME SETTING YOU'VE BEEN USING. THEN LAY THEM ON A CUTTING SURFACE AND SLICE EM UP!

<Vyx> PICK UP SLICES AND RANDOMLY PUT THEM ON THE TOP OF YOUR LAYERED CLAY.

<Vyx> JUST KEEP DOING THAT, WITH AS MANY COLORS AS YOU LIKE... AND ANY SCRAPS OF CANES WORK WELL, TOO.

<Vyx> THEY TEND TO BE MARBLED, THE SCRAPS, AND THAT WON'T SHOW MUCH, BUT IT CAN ADD A BIT MORE INTEREST IN THIS CANE.

<paperpushe> kinda like patchwork? or can they overlap?

<Vyx> YES, PATCHWORK AND OVERLAP IF YOU WANT. I ENDED UP OVERLAPPING SOME CUZ I DIDN'T WANT TO TRY AND CUT BITS TO SIZE.

<Vyx> THINK ABOUT HOW YOU ARE RANDOMIZING... SIDE TO SIDE THE SHORT WAY IS HOW THE CANE WILL BE CUT, SO IF YOU LAY ONE COLOR ALL ALONG ONE SIDE THEN ONLY THOSE FEW SLICES WILL HAVE THAT COLOR.

<Vyx> I'M REALLY SORRY I DIDN'T GET STEP BY STEP PICTURES UP.

<deb> this is great vyx

<Janet> I can do random. I random good.

<beanjean1> vyx, you're doing great but I'm getting TIRED

<beanjean1> night all!

<Vyx> G'NIGHT JEAN

<beanjean1> have fun!

<deb> nite jena

<brenda> bye bj

<deb> err jean

<Vyx> SHOOT. DANG IT. SARAH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE LADIES THAT SENT YOU A CARD.

<Vyx> YOU COULDA SAID THANK YOU.

<Zarawyn> I know.

<Vyx> OH!

<paperpushe> me/ trying to organize her randomizing! LOL

<Janet> lol

<paperpushe> oops

<Zarawyn> Um... I thought about it but I didn't know what you had already told her in my place.

<cak> Vyx, how about other "coloring" agents, like gold/metal leaf? or small glitter?

<Vyx> I EVEN OPENED A LOT OF NEW COLORS THAT I HADN'T USED FOR THIS CANE.

<Janet> okay, i just randomized like four colors over my white and translucent rectangle, it's getting a lil fat, is that okay?

<Vyx> I LOOOOVVVEEE THIS CANE

<Vyx> GOOD IDEA CAK, GLITTER WOULD BE GREAT IN THIS!

<Janet> glitter??

<deb> can you bake glitter?

<Janet> powdered pearls??

<Vyx> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT METAL LEAF, NEVER HAVE USED IT.

<brenda> oooh leaf is good

<deb> foil works good

<Janet> metal leaf bakes great, i've used it for other canes

<Vyx> GLITTER BAKES FINE, AT LEAST THE KIND I GET IN THE RUBBERSTAMPER SECTION AT MICHAELS.

<deb> cool

<Vyx> JANET, YOU ARE GONNA PUT IT THRU THE PASTA MACHINE AGAIN.

<Janet> oh good. because i couldn't roll it up this fat

<Vyx> I THINK ANYTHING THAT WOULD ADD COLOR OR INTEREST COULD BE ADDED AT THIS LAYER.

<Vyx> NOW I HAVE TO TRY GLITTER IN MY NEXT ONE!

<Vyx> BRAYER THE COLORS INTO THE PREVIOUS LAYERS. JUST TO EVEN IT OUT A BIT.

<cak> I couldn't tell if it would show or not

<Vyx> THE WHOLE SHEBANG IS GOING TO GO THRU THE PASTA MACHINE, THIS TIME AT THE THICKEST SETTING.

<Vyx> HI q

<Vyx> hi Q

<brenda> hey queen

<Vyx> YOU ARE GOING TO BE GLAD YOU DID THE FIRST 2 OR 3 LAYERS ON A FAIRLY THIN SETTING.

<RubberRabbit Hops into Queen's lap

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<Zarawyn> I'm getting sleepy, Momma. I'm outta here.

<TheQueen> hi Brenda, hi Okies <G>

<deb> lol

<Vyx> OKAY KIDDO, G'NIGHT

<Janet> boomer sooner!

<Zarawyn> Night, all.

<TheQueen> pfffffft

<brenda> bye zarawyn

<Janet> nice to meet ya, sarah. come play with us again

deb crosses her arms and tapps her foot and glares at Q

<TheQueen> DEB!

TheQueen hugs {{{{{{{ deb }}}}}}}

<cak> Come back again please!

<deb> hrmph

<Zarawyn> Have fun, Mom. See you tomorrow!

<Janet> (and tell us about The Dress too)

<deb> hey q

<deb> bye Zarawyn

<Zarawyn> I'll get a pic for you, Janet.

<Vyx> I'M GONNA HAVE PICTURES OF THE DAMN DRESS. :)

<Janet> yay!

<Janet> okay, so i pick up this mess and feed it into the pasta machine? do I brayer it first?

<Janet> so it sticks together some?

<Vyx> I AM ALWAYS FORGETTING TO CHANGE THE SETTING ON MY PASTA MACHINE. MAKE SURE YOU ARE SET TO THICKEST SETTING. :)

<Vyx> YEP, BRAYER THE MESS.

<cak> lol--sounds like something I'd do--good reminder

<Vyx> dang it, mothras AGAIN

<Vyx> FEED THE LAYERED CLAY THRU ON THICKEST SETTING. IT'S GOING TO GET REALLY LONG!

<cak> (like a moth to the flame--guess who's the flame)

<cak> does it matter how wide it gets?

<Vyx> THERE IS A NICE BIG LIGHT UP ON THE CEILING... SHEESH.

<Vyx> IT SHOULDN'T GET TOO MUCH WIDER, BUT NO, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

<Vyx> 3 INCHES IS NARROW ENOUGH THAT IF IT DOES WIDEN IT SHOULD STILL BE NARROW ENOUGH TO GO INTO THE MACHINE OKAY.

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<cak> thanks

<brenda> hey liz

<Janet> mine just got like 40" long

<liz> hi i know i am late right

<Janet> it's everywhere

<Vyx> YEP, IT MAKES ONE REALLY LOOOOONG PIECE OF CLAY!

<Janet> the page is excellent, Liz, has all the insturctions on it

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<Vyx> JUST NO PICTURES ON THE PAGE YET

<Janet> it's on the pasta maker and across the desk and across the top of the keyboard now

<cak> we're on step 7 right now

<liz> ok i will copy right now thanks you guys, you are always lifesavers

<Janet> (so part of my inclusions are gonna be dust pieces too)

<Vyx> LOL JANET

<Janet> (and ashes)

<Vyx> EWW

<brenda> LOL janet

<Vyx> CUT OFF ONE SHORT END AND ROLL THAT BIT OF CLAY INTO A SNAKE

<Mary_ray> I'm lost I think

<cak> (at least you won't have to clean 'em us this way)

<Janet> yeah. ewwww but hey, after i slice it the ashes won't show

<Mary_ray> I put color on my last layer and put through pasta machine

<Mary_ray> now I roll it up?

<Vyx> YOU ARE ALL CAUGHT UP, MARYRAY

<Vyx> CUT OFF ONE SHORT END, A NARROW END I MEAN.

<Mary_ray> what do you mean when you say cut off one short end?

<Vyx> SO THAT YOU HAVE A STRAIGHT EDGE

<brenda> vyx the white will be on the outside of the roll????????

<Vyx> ONE OF THE ENDS THAT WENT INTO THE PASTA MACHINE

<Mary_ray> okay then i roll?

<Janet> Vyx, so I'm rolling it with it on the thickest setting? i mean I don't make it any thinner? (if I do I'm gonna have to stand up and start laying it on the sofa too)

<Vyx> BRENDA, YEP

<deb> lol

<brenda> ok ty

<Vyx> NO, JUST ONCE THRU THE MACHINE IS ALL WE NEED!

<Janet> (thank goodness)

<brenda> lol janet

<deb> janet is wearing hers as a stole

<Janet> i'm serious. this puppy is at least 40" long

<Vyx> MARYRAY, CUT OFF THE END, MAKE A LITTLE SNAKE WITH THAT BIT OF CLAY YOU CUT OFF.

<cak> (might've had to get a cat in there is it got much longer?)

<Vyx> LAY THE SNAKE OVER THE CUT END, SO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO START THE ROLL WITH.

<Janet> (and now has ashes and cat hair and dust in it, in addition to the glitter and powdered pearls)

<brenda> oh you dont roll the long piece then?????????

<Mary_ray> what is a snake?> the cut piece?

<deb> the cut piece

<brenda> just a slice off the sshort edge

<Vyx> THE CUT PIECE. ROLL IT ON THE TABLE LIKE PLAYDOH.

<brenda> ok got ya

<Janet> ohhhhhhh i get it now. i'm making a snake out of the piece i cut off to even up the end so it will be like the middle filling of this jelly roll

<Vyx> YES!

<Mary_ray> you mean roll the cut piece -- not the whole big piece itself

<Vyx> RIGHT MARYRAY

<deb> right mary ray

<Mary_ray> duh

<Vyx> JUST THAT LITTLE PIECE YOU CUT OFF

<brenda> oooh neat

<brenda> i think i can do this

<Vyx> I KNOW I CAN BE REALLY CONFUSING

<Janet> then i jelly roll the big long piece

<brenda> yippieeeee

<Vyx> AND JELLY ROLL THE LONG PIECE. TAKE YOUR TIME!

<brenda> oooohhhhhh

<Vyx> DON'T RUSH. TRY AND KEEP ONE EDGE EVEN (LESS WASTE)

<brenda> long ways ???????

<Vyx> WE ARE STARTING OUR JELLY ROLL FROM A SHORT END, AND ENDING AT A SHORT END.

<brenda> ok ty

<paperpushe> gotta go, but I've bookmarked your site, Vyx...this is neat!

<brenda> very neat

<Vyx> TY, LOOK FOR PICTURES SOONER OR LATER.

<brenda> good way to use left over colors up

<paperpushe> thanks, vyx

<Vyx> WONDERFUL WAY TO USE UP LEFT OVER BITS.

<Mary_ray> okay so now we're rollign the big piece on top of the little snake we made, right?

<Janet> OMG this jelly roll is about the side of a baseball

<Vyx> YES, THAT SNAKE IS JUST THE CENTER, KEEPS YOU FROM HAVING A BIG AIR SPOT IN THE MIDDLE.

<deb> lol

<Mary_ray> do we just keep going around and around as many times as it takes to completely roll the piece

<Vyx> JANET, NEXT TIME GO FOR THINNER SETTINGS ON THE PASTA MACHINE. :)

<Vyx> JUST ROLL IT UP UNTIL IT'S ALL ROLLED UP.

<Janet> it's like four inches wide and now about uhh measuring like five inches tall

<Vyx> GOOD GOD

<Janet> it's a big mother

<deb> lol

<Vyx> YES, NEXT TIME JANET, THINNER SETTINGS!

<Vyx> YOU CAN ROLL YOURS A BIT, AND REDUCE IT.

<Janet> i think i can cover a set of mixing bowls with it.

<Vyx> ROTF!

<Janet> or a coffee table. yep, that's it. i'm covering a coffee table. LOL

<Mary_ray> okay, my mini roll looks pretty weird

<Vyx> WE ALL WANT TO ROLL OUR JELLY ROLL LIKE SNAKING A BIT, TO SMOOTH IT OUT AND MAKE SURE THE LAYERS ARE TIGHT.

<Janet> (if I could only fit it in the oven.)

<deb> lol

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<Mary_ray> so we roll/snake it a bit

<Vyx> MAKE TILES WITH IT, AND COVER THE COFFEE TABLE WITH THE TILES. :)

Maggie will just watch...i know i'm late..i just heard about this on a stamping list i'm on

<Janet> (mary ray, my mega roll looks very strange)

<TheQueen> hi maggie

<Mary_ray> we're a team, Janet!

<Maggie> thanks deb

<Janet> lol

<Maggie> hi queen

<deb> yw

<Vyx> WE HAVE ONLY A COUPLE MORE STEPS BEFORE WE ARE DONE AND CAN START SLICING.

<Vyx> EVERYONE HAVE A RULER?

<Maggie> just out of curiosity, what are we making?

<Vyx> JANET MIGHT NEED SOMETHING BIGGER...

deb hands janet a yard stick

<Vyx> CHRYSANTHEMUM CANE, POLYMER CLAY

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<Maggie> thanks

<Mary_ray> I have a 12 incher

<Maggie> got it

<Mary_ray> or let's say I wish I had a 12 incher

<Vyx> I CUT A PIECE OF BAKING PARCHMENT TO FIT MY RULER. FOLD IT OVER THE RULER. YOU COULD ALSO USE WAX PAPER.

<deb> lol mary rya

<Mary_ray> I have no parchment! :-( what now?

<Vyx> WAX PAPER?

<Mary_ray> yeah

<liz> hmm might be other things we could do with the roll :()

<Janet> oh my. i got it reduced to about golf ball size. and yeah, my credit card is not big enough to make creases

<Vyx> USE THAT. JUST TO KEEP THE CLAY FROM STICKING TOO MUCH.

<Mary_ray> how do you get the wax paper to stay on the ruler?

<Vyx> JUST HOLD IT! :)

<Mary_ray> oh!

<Janet> put the wax paper on the roll and moosh it in?

<Janet> (my metal ruler is long enough) (barely)

<Vyx> YOU ARE GOING TO HOLD THE RULER WITH WAX PAPER AROUND ONE SHARP EDGE, AND CUT INTO THE SIDE OF YOUR CANE, THE LONG WAY.

<Vyx> CUT DOWN 1/2 WAY.

<Vyx> MORE OR LESS, DON'T TRY TO BE EXACT.

<Mary_ray> I am cutting it lenghtwise in half, basically?

<Vyx> TURN YOUR LOG 1/4 TURN, AND CUT AGAIN.

<Vyx> YES, MARYRAY, BUT DON'T CUT ALL THE WAY THRU.

<Janet> cut to the middle?

<Janet> hi louann and glenda

<Vyx> MORE OR LESS TO THE MIDDLE. IT GETS HARDER TO JUDGE.

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~vyxxan/chryscane.html

<louann> hi

<Vyx> 1/4 TURN AND CUT, UNTIL YOU HAVE 4 CUTS.

<Vyx> THEN START AGAIN, THIS TIME CUTTING BETWEEN EACH CUT. FOR A TOTAL OF 8 CUTS.

<TheQueen> Night all

<Vyx> BYE Q

<deb> nite q

<brenda> bye queen

<liz> bye q

<Mary_ray> what do you mean by 1/4 turn?

<Mary_ray> I don't think my cane is wide enough for 8 cuts

<Vyx> IT MIGHT NOT LOOK WIDE ENOUGH. BUT PROBABLY IS. IF YOU LOOK AT ONE END YOU CAN SORT OF SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING.

<Vyx> GO WITH AS MANY AS YOU ARE COMFORTABLE MAKING, BUT I'D MAKE AT LEAST 5 CUTS.

<Vyx> AND 1/4 TURN MEANS 1/4 OF YOUR LOG

<Mary_ray> am I cutting another lenghtwise cut?

<Mary_ray> or perpendicular to first cut?

<cak> rotate the cane along the 'snake' axis so a fresh area is exposed?

<Vyx> LENGTHWISE CUTS, ALL THESE ARE LENGTHWISE. THINK OF ORANGE SECTIONS.

<Vyx> YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE CUTS INTO YOUR CANE SO THAT LOOKING AT IT FROM ONE END IT'S LIKE SECTIONS

<Vyx> IS THAT ANY EASIER TO PICTURE?

<Vyx> *

<brenda> yes

<cak> so the 'cuts' are from edge-to-edge, not around the cane, right?

<Vyx> RIGHT

<deb> look at the picture - see how the indentions go in on the colors

<deb> makes kinda a flower petal

<Vyx> I KNOW SOMEONE ELSES WEB PAGE HAS INSTRUCTIONS... SHOULD I FIND THAT FOR YOU ALL?

<deb> I understand by looking at hte picture

<Vyx> IT'S A BACK ISSUE OF POLYZINE

<Janet> you're making length-wise cuts

<Janet> like striping a log

<Janet> then mine oozed back together when I turned it

<Vyx> GOOD.

<Mary_ray> okay, the cuts or indentations have sort of reshaped the cane a little

<deb> so that when you slice it it will look like flowers with petals

<Mary_ray> or a lot

<deb> yes

<Vyx> YES, WE ARE RESHAPING IT

<Janet> (i need to put it in the freezer before i try to cut slices of it)

<Vyx> WE WILL ROLL IT DOWN A BIT TO SMOOTH TOO.

<Mary_ray> instead of rounded it's boxey

<Vyx> WELL, NOT ROLL IT DOWN, BUT ROUND IT UP.

<Vyx> YOU WANT TO SEAL THOSE CUTS YOU MADE.

<Mary_ray> i think I put five cuts in - it was difficult to manuever (remember this is my FIRST polymer clay attempt peroid!)

<Vyx> YEAH, THIS IS ONE CANE YOU WANT TO COOL WELL BEFORE SLICING.

<Mary_ray> how do we seal the cuts?

<Vyx> I THINK YOU ARE DOING GREAT MARYRAY

<Mary_ray> by rolling a little, you mean?

<Janet> mine sorta oozed back together

<Vyx> DO YOU KNOW HOW WE SNAKE SOME CLAY? DO THAT, ROLL IT UNDER YOUR PALMS, BUT DON'T PRESS DOWN TOO MUCH.

<Mary_ray> that's what you mean by sealing it, right?

<Vyx> YEP

<Vyx> I'M GOING TO WANT PICTURES OF YOUR RESULTS, MARYRAY

<Vyx> :)

<Vyx> THE REASON WE ROUND IT UP IS MOSTLY SO THAT OUR SLICES ARE FILLED WITH CLAY AND NOT AIR GAPS

<Vyx> gee, i should have known this would make for a long class!

<deb> > )

<deb> I can't wait to try this

<Vyx> dang good thing this isn't convention where other stuff is going on

<deb> yep

<deb> lol

<Mary_ray> Oh, I don't think you'll want picutres

<deb> lol mary ray

<Vyx> SURE I WILL. :)

<Mary_ray> I think I screwed up on how I placed the colored pieces on

<deb> and we promise not to laugh

<deb> well - I give you permissino to laugh at mine

<Mary_ray> maybe they're too clumpy or something!

<Vyx> JUST MEANS YOUR CANE IS AN ORIGINAL

<deb> definitely

<Vyx> WITH THIS CANE AND RANDOM COLORS, EVERY CANE IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

<Janet> i know my colored bits were put on funky, but once this gets firm again in the freezer and I start slicing slices off it, nobody will be able to tell that

<Mary_ray> this kinda looks like a cow skin, only it's beige and red instead of brown/black and white!

<RubberRabb> doesn't matter if this class is long, vyx; lots of good information here

<Vyx> LOL!

<deb> lol

<Mary_ray> how's THAT for a cane!

<RubberRabb> ah, a jersey red! moo

<Mary_ray> a jersey red cow from a former New Jerseian

<Vyx> YOU COULD ALSO MAKE THIS CANE WITH A SOLID COLOR INSTEAD OF BITS. WOULDN'T BE AS INTERESTING TO ME, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE NICE.

<deb> how do we cook?

<Mary_ray> i just guessed on BIT SIZE

<Mary_ray> my cane is now in fridge

<deb> fridge?

<Vyx> THE WAY I MADE THE KEYCHAINS... I JUST ROLLED UP SOME SCRAP CLAY... THE ENDS I CUT OFF THE CANE.

<Mary_ray> to cool it off before cutting?

<Vyx> YES, GOOD

<Janet> yeah, because i had hot hands and mine got mooshy

<deb> hmmmmmmmmmmmm

<Janet> and it slices better for me if it is real firm

<Vyx> THE COOLER YOUR CANE, THE THINNER THE SLICES YOU CAN MAKE.

<Mary_ray> how long should it be in fridge for good cutting?

<enchy> i put it in the frig for a bit before slicing - like cookies

<Vyx> GIVE IT 10 OR 20 MIN.

<enchy> aobut six years

<enchy> oh

<enchy> just that long?

<Vyx> LOL ENCHY

<enchy> i've had some in there for years

Mary_ray hates waiting

<deb> mary ray - don't let the kids get it mixed up with refrigerator cookies

<enchy> well months

<Mary_ray> okay, deb - good thing there are no cookies in there

<Vyx> IT CAN STAY IN THERE FOREVER, BUT DOESN'T need TO BE

<RubberRabb> I think they'll know the difference when they cook them..

<enchy> lol

<enchy> or eat them

<Vyx> WHILE IT'S COOLING YOU CAN BE MAKING THE BASE OF YOUR KEY CHAIN BEAD.

<RubberRabb> only your orthodonist will know for sure

<Janet> that's the ends I cut off my cane?

<Mary_ray> so we'll be cutting little slices off and covering the layer of solid clay we put on key chain

<Vyx> TAKE SOME SCRAP CLAY, LIKE ENOUGH TO FIT INSIDE YOUR HAND WHEN YOU CLOSE IT.

<RubberRabb> (new movie, a fistful of clay)

<Vyx> LOL!

<deb> lol

<Vyx> ROLL IT UP, ROLL IT UP, MARK IT WITH A B... OH WAIT...

deb thinks t his bead would be cool on a chain

<Vyx> JUST ROLL IT UP TO A ROUND.

<deb> lol

<RubberRabb> no that's pattycakes..

<RubberRabb> (and there's nobody here named patty is there?)

<deb> lol

<Mary_ray> hey wait a minute - what about the first two colors - layers of clay? I just made the red cow skin with the one layer and the bits of color!!!! I know I did something wrong here!

<Vyx> IF YOU ARE USING MUD CLAY, COVER IT WITH A NICE SOLID COLOR (THIS DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU DIDN'T USE TRANSLUCENT CLAY)

<Vyx> MARYRAY, HOW MANY LAYERS DID YOU HAVE?

<Janet> Mary ray I think it will be cool

<Vyx> FOR MY KEYCHAIN CANE I USED> WHITE, PEARL WHITE, TRANSLUCENT, AND COLORS ALL IN ONE LAYER.

<Mary_ray> I made a white layer, a tan layer, then a beige layer, but the first two layers are still sitting on the wax paper

<Vyx> OH OH

<Mary_ray> they are lost and alone

<Vyx> ERM, YEP, WE MISSED A STEP THERE...

<Janet> oh. then cut up your cow log into the top of your first two

<Mary_ray> well they're on top of each other

<Janet> it will still work

<Vyx> I WOULD SAVE THOSE LAYERS, FOR ANOTHER CANE.

<Mary_ray> what step did I miss exactly?

<Vyx> THE ONE WHERE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO PUT ALL THE CLAY INTO ONE PILE?

<Janet> hey Owen

<Mary_ray> I missed that instruction!

<Owen> Hi

<Vyx> WE WANTED CLAY LIKE THIS:

<Vyx> WHITE

<Vyx> PEARL

<Vyx> TRANS

<Vyx> COLORS

<Janet> it will still work. she can cut her cow cane into slices and layer that on top of the two forgotten ones

<Vyx> WITH THE WHITE BEING ON THE BOTTOM

<Janet> it will be cool

<Janet> really cool

<Mary_ray> and then run that through the machine?

<Mary_ray> or leave it as is?

<Vyx> YOU CAN LAY SLICES ON AND RUN THRU THE MACHINE, USE IT TO COVER PENS. MAKE NOTEBOOK COVERS.

<Mary_ray> when you cover pins and plastic type stuff, can you put all that in the oven?

<Vyx> BUT IT'S NOT WASTED, MARYRAY, YOU COULD MAKE ANOTHER CANE. JUST COVER THAT 2 COLOR LAYER WITH BITS OF COLOR LIKE YOU DID THE OTHER ONE.

<Mary_ray> decisions! decisions!

<Vyx> YOU NEED TO USE BIC STICKS OR THE PAPERMATE VERSION THAT LOOKS LIKE EM, NOT THE CRYSTAL PENS.

<Mary_ray> they can go in the oven though?

<Lory> vyx, i have a question. When you cover ink pins, do you drill a hole in it

<Vyx> THEY CAN GO RIGHT IN THE OVEN. CRYSTAL PENS MELT.

<Lory> pens

<Mary_ray> I don't even know what crystal pens are

<Mary_ray> the clear plastic, you mean

<Vyx> YOU SHOULD TAKE THE INK BIT OUT.

<Vyx> YES, THE CLEAR PLASTIC PENS MELT.

<Vyx> SO YOU DON'T WANNA USE THOSE.

<Vyx> I DON'T DRILL HOLES IN ANYTHING.

<deb> I had trouble getting the ink refill back into the pen after baking

<Vyx> I MAKE HOLES IN SLICES FOR STUFF... BEFORE BAKING.

<deb> any tips?

<Lory> ok thanks, i never did but i read somewhere that you should it helps the ink flow

<Vyx> ROLL UP YOUR FINE SANDPAPER... AND STICK IT IN THE HOLE AND SAND A BIT.

<Mary_ray> you take the ink part out of the bic pens? I didn't think they came out

<Janet> i had to x-acto carve the polyclay outta the hole, deb

<deb> they doo mary ray

<deb> ok

<deb> take the ink part out

<Glenda> night all

<deb> then bake

<Vyx> I DON'T GET CLAY IN THE HOLE. :)

<deb> I didn't either

<deb> but the ink didn't fit

<Janet> show off

<Janet> i always do

<Vyx> PAIR OF PLYERS, PULL IT OUT.

<deb> lol

<Janet> so then i have to carve it out

<Vyx> BUT GOING BACK IN... YOU CAN PRESS PRETTY DARN HARD ON IT, IT WON'T BREAK.

<deb> broke one trying to carve it out

<Vyx> NO ONE TOLD ME TO TAKE THE INK OUT, SO ALL MY FIRST PENS I MADE THEM WITH THE INK IN AND THEY ALL CAME OUT FINE.

<deb> cool

<Mary_ray> they did?

<Mary_ray> maybe that's the way to go

<Mary_ray> how long do they take in the oven. the layer is probably so thin, just 10-15 minutes?

<Vyx> ON A PEN? STILL COOK IT FOR 20 MIN. JUST BE CAREFUL OF THE TEMP.

<liz> night guys, all i can say is thanks for the information i will try this and i learned so much from all your comments

<Vyx> TOO HOT IT WILL BURN, AND THAT IS BAD. BUT OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK YOU CAN OVERCOOK IT.

<cak> Night liz

<Mary_ray> oh, a question on cutting the canes. I don't have those thin tissue blade things. What's a good around the house tool? A sharp knife or an exacto knife?

<Mary_ray> at what temp again?

<Vyx> 275

<Janet> mary ray, use a real thin piece of craft wire

<Mary_ray> I have super thin wire, possibly too thin, but I'll try it

<Vyx> STRETCH A PIECE OF WIRE SO IT'S STRAIGHT. OR USE A STRONG THREAD (HEY IT WORKS FOR CAKE)

<Mary_ray> how about an egg slicer ;-)

<Vyx> EXACTO WOULD WORK, BUT DO INVEST IN A TISSUE BLADE.

<Janet> can't be too thin, mary ray. thin wire will cut. or a piece of thread will too

<Mary_ray> can I get one of those at HObby Lobby?

<Vyx> EGG SLICER WOULD MAKE SLICES TOO THICK.

<Janet> hobby lobby has 'em

<Vyx> YES I BELIEVE THAT HOBBY LOBBY SELLS THE BLADE. NUBLADE, THAT'S THE NAME.

<Mary_ray> how thin should the slices be, speaking of thinness

<Janet> so does quintessentials here in the mall

<deb> thin

<Vyx> GOT A FINE TOOTH COMB? USE THAT TO MARK SLICES. BUT AS THIN AS YOU CAN CUT EM.

<Janet> (but i never can wait, i want it immediately)

<deb> I got MINE from Quintessentials

<Vyx> I GOT MY NUBLADES FROM QUINTESSENTIALS.

<Janet> showoffs

<deb> loll

<Janet> i got my clay from quintessentials. so there.

<deb> in fact I got ALLLLLLL my clay from quintessentials

<Vyx> SPARKLE HAD THEM CHEAPER THAN MICHAELS. I AM ALWAYS A BARGAIN HUNTER.

<deb> she's got the big pound things of transparent

<deb> and sparkle's is fresh

<Mary_ray> I think I'm going to be doing some shopping there!

<Janet> i got the pound of transparent. and last convention she had alla the colors on special. so i got lots

<Vyx> NEXT YEAR I'M GOING TO OPEN A MALL STORE AND COMPETE WITH HER. GO TELL HER SO. :)

<deb> I had some really old stuff from hobby lobby and it was hard as a rock

<deb> lol vyx

<Janet> LOL and then I'll buy from both of you.

<deb> she won't mind

<deb> she's into GLASS

<Vyx> YEAH, THAT'S MY THINKING.

<Vyx> SHES ALL BUSY WITH THE GLASS NOW.

<deb> she just keeps finding new ways to sparkle

<Mary_ray> I have a plastic key chain tag (advertisement). I'm thinking of covering it with the clay

<Vyx> OKAY, ARE WE READY TO COVER A BEAD NOW? I THINK MY MOM WANTS TO GO TO BED. lol

<Janet> I'm ready!

<Mary_ray> a bead?

<deb> yes

<deb> our clay bead

<Vyx> MARYRAY, THE KEYCHAINS I MADE ARE SOLID CLAY.

<Mary_ray> oh!

<deb> lol

<Vyx> JUST A BIG BEAD WITH SOME WIRE STUCK INTO IT FOR A FINDING.

<Mary_ray> a finding is a hook?

<deb> yes

<Vyx> A LOOP REALLY, JUST SOME WIRE TWISTED UP TO MAKE A LOOP.

<Vyx> IF YOU HAVE TRANSLUCENT IN YOUR CANE, YOU REALLY WANT A SOLID OR AT LEAST PRETTY COLOR FOR A BACKGROUND.

<Vyx> SO NO MUD SHOWING THRU.

<Vyx> OTHERWISE... MAKE A BIG BEAD, LIKE I SAID ABOUT A FISTFUL OF CLAY SIZE. ROLL IT UP. SLICE SOME CLAY, AND PUT ON THE BEAD. LAYER IT... SO IT OVERLAPS.

<Vyx> AND ROLL IT UP SMOOTH.

<Vyx> YOU CAN PUT ALL THE SLICES ON TO COVER AND THEN ROLL, OR AS YOU LIKE, WHICHEVER IS EASIER FOR YOU.

<Vyx> SOMETIMES FLAWS SHOW UP, SO YOU WANT ANOTHER SLICE ON.

<Janet> this is so cool. I just cut into mine

<Vyx> AFTER IT'S LOOKING NICE AND SMOOTH, FLATTEN IT.

<Janet> (can't even see the ashes)

<Vyx> JUST CUT INTO YOUR CANE? ISN'T THAT AWESOME?

<Vyx> i hope y'all realize it's been almost 2 hours and no cig for me now. lol

<enchy> on nooooo

<enchy> ohhh noooooo

<Vyx> THIS IS MY VERY FAVORITE CANE NOW.

<Janet> and you haven't even threatened to kill me or anything

<Vyx> SOOOO EASY, SO FANTABULOUS

<Janet> mine IS fantabulous!!

<Janet> blue and green and purple, with white and transparent

<Janet> is soooo cool

<cak> the one on your website is lovely

<deb> this is greata vyx

<Vyx> YOU WANT TO LAYER YOURS ON SOME PEARL CLAY, ANY COLOR, JANET

<deb> thanks

<cak> Are you gonna show us Janet?

<Janet> someday.

<deb> her's is probalby in the fridge

<Janet> after i get the sofa covered<g>

<deb> or she's still wearing it

<brenda> vyx thanks for a fabulous class

<deb> lol

<Janet> (it's going back in there, is still a bit soft)

<Vyx> THANKS Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE!

<deb> thanks vyx

<Janet> i just had to cut into the middle to see it

<Janet> thank you!!

<Vyx> TWO HOURS, GOSH!

<deb> nite all!

<cak> thank *you*--fabulous result from just a little work

<Vyx> INSTEAD OF GOING TO BED, WE ARE GOING IN THE SPA. :)

<Vyx> BUT FIRST I'M GOING OUT TO SMOKE DANG IT

<Vyx> MARYRAY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NEED ANY MORE HELP?

<Lory> thanks for the class vyx and the stamina with the lack of nicotine

<Vyx> Y'ALL ARE FUN TO TEACH TO.

<cak> rowdiness and all?

<enchy> this was very informative vyx

<enchy> thanks a bunch

<Vyx> THE MOST AMAZING THING WAS AOL DIDN'T KICK ME OFF YET. :)

<enchy> lol

<enchy> me neither!

<brenda> me either

<Vyx> YEAH, BUT I'M IN THE WILDS OF ARKANSAS... VERY UNUSUAL.

<Owen> Is Arkansas wild?

<enchy> lol

<Owen> Kansas isn't.

<enchy> neither is puyallup

<cak> (OK, Vyx's gotta smoke, I gotta go to the bathroom. BRB)

<Mary_ray> well, ladies I think I'm going to get the blade thing to cut mine. Wire is not easy enough

<Vyx> anyhow... i'm gonna go now if there aren't any more questions. Cook beads or flattened beads for an hour, just don't go above rec. temps.

<enchy> thanks vyx

<Vyx> curing time longer is better, but temp is really important.

<enchy> this was a great class

<enchy> then sand and sand and sand?

<Owen> Night, Vyx

<Vyx> you are all welcome, but now we know I ain't teaching this at convention! :)

<enchy> lol

<Vyx> g'night y'all, have a good rest of the weekend!

<Vyx> hugs!

<Owen> night

<enchy> i'm outta here too

<enchy> time for sleepy time

<enchy> kiss kiss

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