<RubberRabb> Ok Janet, do me a favor and put up the website (listed as a cool website by RSM)

<Janet> okay, tell me the URL?

<RubberRabb> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<RubberRabb> it took a while to type it!

<RubberRabb> Thanks Janet

<Janet> Now we ALL have hammers.

<Janet> Good job, Stocks and stamps. That can baffle new people and you got it right off the bat.

<RubberRabb> do me a favor and post it occasionally during class.. I did a second tole so I could do the step by step

<MomCat> ty, Janet

<stocksands> did I do that?

<Janet> You did!

<RubberRabb> started it at 3pm and just finished it at 630

<Janet> Or well, you gave me a hammer and I gave everybody else one

<cak> (knowing the right people counts)

<Janet> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html is the class page

<stocksands> Is this a good thing or do you want something else by my name?

<Janet> this is a good thing :)

<Janet> Welcome to here.

<RubberRabb> I need a fresh cuppa tea, brb and then we can start

<Janet> Okay, go get yer cuppa

<Janet> and I'll welcome stocks and stamps.

<MomCat> Ooops, have to give the puter back

<Janet> stocks and stamps sounds like fun, too.

<MomCat> Have a great class!!

<RubberRabb> aah

<Janet> (except I have this mental image of people in stocks stamping just what people will put under their hands)

<RubberRabb> glad to have that fresh cuppa tea

<Chele> where is stocksandstamps from?

Chele bought 4 boxes of tea today cuz I liked the wooden boxes

<Chele> don't drink tea, but I liked the boxes

<RubberRabb> oops

<RubberRabb> just a bounce

<Janet> Chele! I did that!! at the dollar store

<deb> hi rr

<Chele> YEP!

<Janet> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html is the class page

<RubberRabb> you can send me the tea--I drink all the time

<Janet> and a thing of beauty it is too

<Chele> I bought a bunch of fake money, too <G>

<deb> when I bounce - I don't recover that fast

<stocksands> Ohio but my husbqand made the name up because I work for a brokerage firm and love to stamp

Chele will RAK RR wif some tea

<Janet> What a great name.

<RubberRabb> will love it..

<Chele> cool... what part of Ohio?

<RubberRabb> Ok, Janet, as timekeeper when do you want me to start

<Janet> my mama named me Janet becuase it was 1955 and every third mother was doing the same thing<g>

<Janet> Start when ready, RR

<Janet> you can tell me to shut up

<RubberRabb> hopefully this won't take as long as the last class I taught where everyone fell asleep!

<Janet> (I won't, but you can tell me to)

<deb> and we will keep our conversations private

<RubberRabb> OK JUST SO THAT YOU DROP THE FEAR--PAPER TOLE IS NOT PAINTING

<RubberRabb> PAPER TOLE IS THE NAME GIVEN TO LAYERING PAPER TO MAKE A THREE D IMAGE

<RubberRabb> IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE WEBSITE, PLEASE GO LOOK SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHAT WE ARE DOING

<Janet> I won the rabbits at the auction, it is soo awesome.

<AliciaG> hello

<Janet> so I have my sunflower stamp ready for tonight.

<RubberRabb> HI ALICIA; YER JUST IN TIME

<Janet> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<RubberRabb> YOU CAN PAPER TOLE JUST ABOUT ANY IMAGE

<AliciaG> =)

<RubberRabb> IF IT IS SOMETHING YOU THINK WOULD LOOK THREE DIMENSIONAL IN LIFE, YOU CAN MAKE IT 3D IN PAPER

<Janet> oh. my gg grapes would be awesome for this too

<Janet> and my Nixon

<RubberRabb> THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO DO IS TO REALLY LOOK AT YOUR IMAGE AND MAKE SURE IT IS A KIND OF IMAGE YOU CAN EASILY CUT

<kat> hi lynn

<RubberRabb> THE GENERAL DIRECTIONS FOR PAPER TOLE ARE PRETTY SIMPLE

<deb> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<RubberRabb> STAMP YOUR IMAGE SEVERAL TIMES ON CARDSTOCK.

<RubberRabb> PICK ONE OF THE STAMPINGS TO BE THE BASE IMAGE

<Lynn> Hi All:

<RubberRabb> AND THEN CUT ALL THE REST OF THEM UP AND LAYER THEM ON TOP

<RubberRabb> HI LYNN

<Janet> uhhh wait.

<RubberRabb> YES JANET

<Janet> cut which pieces and how?

<RubberRabb> OK, GO LOOK AT THE RABBITS

<cak> Yeah, you cut them all the same?

<RubberRabb> NO

<enchy> ack

<enchy> oops

<RubberRabb> OR, NOT NECESSARILY

<Janet> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<RubberRabb> HANG ON JUST A SEC

<Janet> this is too new to me. I need more of a cookbook instruction.

<deb> lol

<RubberRabb> SORRY MY PHONE JUST RANG

<RubberRabb> WHEW

<RubberRabb> OK

<RubberRabb> WHEN i TOLED THE RABBITS

<RubberRabb> i WANTED THEM TO BE REACHING OUT

<RubberRabb> SO I LOOKED HARD AT THE IMAGE

<RubberRabb> YOU SEE THE EARS WILL BE FORWARD, AND SO WILL THE HANDS

<deb> did you cut them in separate pieces are as a whole

<RubberRabb> ONE RABBIT IS CLOSER

<RubberRabb> DEB, I LEFT ONE STAMPING ENTIRELY WHOLE

<deb> ok

<RubberRabb> THAT MAKES THE BACKGROUND AND THE BASE FOR BUILDING ALL THE REST OF THE LAYERS

<deb> ok - I'm too far ahead

<deb> sorry

<RubberRabb> SO IF YOU HAVE A REALLY SIMPLE IMAGE; A VASE OF FLOWERS, FOR EXAMPLE

<RubberRabb> YOU WILL STAMP THE WHOLE PICTURE

<RubberRabb> AND THEN STAMP IT AGAIN ON THE SAME KIND OF PAPER SEVERAL MORE TIMES

<AliciaG> do we reink?

<RubberRabb> YES--YOU WANT SEVERAL COMPLETE IMAGES

<RubberRabb> IT'S KIND OF HARD TO EXPLAIN, BUT THIS CRAFT USED TO BE DONE WITH MAGAZINE PICTURES

<RubberRabb> YOU'D GET SEVERAL OF THE SAME PICTURE

<kat> how many layers do you usually do

<RubberRabb> AND CUT JUST PARTS OF IT OUT TO MAKE A MORE IN-DEPTH IMAGE

<cak> Does the weight of the paper matter RR?

<RubberRabb> i PREFER CARDSTOCK BECAUSE IT HOLDS UP BETTER AND IS MORE PREDICTABLE

<brenda> sorry i am late

<Wings> me too

<deb> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<RubberRabb> BUT YOU CAN USE ANY KIND OF PAPER THAT WILL TAKE GLUE OR TAPE--IT MIGHT JUST NEED A LOT OF LAYERS TO BUILD UP THE IMAGE

<kat> hi brenda

<RubberRabb> THE RABBITS WERE A HARD PAPERTOLE (THAT'S WHAT RAVEN TOLD ME AFTER LOOKING AT IT) SO I DID ONE FARTHER DOWN THE PAGE THAT IS 'EASIER'

<RubberRabb> IT IS A SIMPLE IMAGE> A RELIQUARY ARM WITH A DOOR IN IT

<Janet> that is the coolest stamp

<deb> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<RubberRabb> POSTMODERN DESIGN MAKES IT AND I GOT IT AS A GIFT

<cak> Do you decide on how many parts you want to "tole" and then make that number of printings? (although I bet you could double up if the parts don't overlap)

<RubberRabb> MY THOUGHT WAS TO MAKE IT A PAPERTOLE SHRINE

<deb> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<RubberRabb> YOU CAN MAKE IT SHALLOW OR DEEP, HOWEVER YOU WANT

<RubberRabb> I MADE THE RABBITS SHALLOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THAT MUCH VELVETEEN PAPER

<cak> So the number of layers = depth/shallowness?

<RubberRabb> BUT I MADE THE RELIQUARY ARM DEEP BECAUSE I COULD GET SEVEN IMAGES ON ONE SHEET OF CARDSTOCK

<deb> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<deb> oh yes

<deb> if you enlarge the pic you can see easier

<deb> hi q

<deb> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<brenda> that is neat looking

<TheQueen> hi d

<RubberRabb> YES, CLICK ON ANY OF THE PICTURES AND THEY WILL GET LARGER

<RubberRabb> NOT A WHOLE LOT LARGER (i DIDN'T WANT YOU TO BE WAITING ALL NIGHT FOR IMAGES TO LOAD)

<RubberRabb> BUT LARGE ENOUGH TO SEE WHAT I DID

<RubberRabb> I PICKED THE PARCHMENT PAPER BECAUSE IT LOOKED OLD

<RubberRabb> AND I STAMPED IN BRILLIANCE INK COFFEEBEAN BECAUSE IT HAS A LIGHT SHEEN

<AliciaG> I have yet to use any of those

<RubberRabb> SO I STAMPED ONE ARM WITH SOME SPACE AROUND IT--THAT ONE IS THE BASE IMAGE--ALL THE REST WILL BE PILED ON TOP.

<cak> do you always use the same paper for all the layers?

<RubberRabb> I THEN STAMPED ALL THE REST OF THE IMAGES..

<RubberRabb> YES, CAK--IT MAKES A MORE UNIFORM PICTURE

<cak> (and don't you wish *I*, at least, would fall asleep?)

<Wings> how many layers do you use

<RubberRabb> YOU DON'T WANT TOO MUCH VARIETY SINCE THE LAYERS ARE ALREADY 'BUSY.'

<cak> gocha

<cak> go*t*cha

<RubberRabb> AS MANY AS YOU WANT, WINGS

yamaANDkathy puts cak to sleep

<RubberRabb> LOL

<brenda> RR if you were going to have flowers in the picutre could you use different colors and textures to do the layers?

<RubberRabb> NO, CAK STAY AWAKE AND ASK QUESTIONS

<Wings> how many did you use on the hand??

<RubberRabb> I USED AS MANY AS WERE ON ONE SHEET OF CARDSTOCK--THIS WAS FIVE LAYERS

<RubberRabb> THE OTHER TWO OF THE SEVEN WERE CUT UP

<RubberRabb> OK. SO I'VE STAMPED MY MAIN IMAGE AND THEN THE REST OF THEM.

<RubberRabb> COLOR THEM ALL

<RubberRabb> ALL OF THEM--NO CHEATING

<RubberRabb> YOU NEED THEM ALL TO MATCH

<brenda> LOL

<RubberRabb> SO COLOR THEM ALL THE SAME OR AT LEAST SIMILAR

<RubberRabb> SEE THE SECOND PICTURE I HAVE UP THERE WITH ALL THE ARMS CUT OUT

<RubberRabb> THEY'RE ALL COLORED IN

<RubberRabb> I USED A GEL PEN--I STARTED WITH BRONZE BUT DECIDED IT WASN'T GLOWING ENOUGH, SO I SWITCHED TO GOLD GEL PEN

<RubberRabb> YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ANAL, JUST COLOR IT ALL

<RubberRabb> WHEN I DID THE RABBITS, THE RABBITS WERE DONE WITH COLORED PENCIL WITH LOTS OF COLORS AND LAYERING OF COLORS

<RubberRabb> BUT THE ARM IS JUST SIMPLE GEL PEN

<deb> wow

<RubberRabb> YOU CUT OUT THE ARMS--ALL OF THEM EXCEPT THE BASE ONE

<RubberRabb> USE GOOD SHARP POINTED DETAIL TYPE SCISSORS--MY FAVE RIGHT NOW IS JUDIKINS

<RubberRabb> BUT ANYTHING YOU CAN CUT RIGHT ON THE LINE WITH WILL WORK

AliciaG has a problem cutting on the line

<RubberRabb> IF YOU WANT A LITTLE HELP CUTTING DETAILS OUT OF PAPER, YOU HOLD THE SCISSORS STILL AND MOVE THE PAPER

<cak> RR, have you ever used an x-acto knife to cut things out? or can you not get an accurate enough cut?

<RubberRabb> CAK I USE AN XACTO TO CUT INSIDE HOLES

<RubberRabb> BUT I GET BETTER CONTROL WITH SCISSORS FOR OUTSIDE DETAIL --I GREW UP DOING DECOUPAGE

<RubberRabb> SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH SCISSORS

<Janet> i love my x-acto knife

<RubberRabb> IN FACT, ON THESE ARMS, I USED AN XACTO TO CUT OUT THE INSIDE HOLES

<cak> Sounds good--do whatever works!

<RubberRabb> DO WHATEVER YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND CAN BE ACCURATE WITH

<RubberRabb> YOU NEED THESE THINGS TO MATCH

<RubberRabb> NOW, FOR THE DOORWAY IN THE ARM

<RubberRabb> YOU LEAVE THE BACKGROUND STAMPING ENTIRELY ALONE--NO CUTTING HERE!

<RubberRabb> THAT'S THE BACK OF YOUR DOORWAY

<Janet> did you say yet when to color what layer?

<RubberRabb> THREE OF THE ARMS YOU WILL CUT THE HOLE OUT COMPLETELY--RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE DECORATIVE BORDER

<RubberRabb> YES JANET, YOU COLOR ALL THE LAYERS BEFORE YOU CUT THEM OUT--COLOR THEM ALL EXACTLY THE SAME

<RubberRabb> THEN YOU CUT THEM OUT

<Janet> oh okay

<RubberRabb> EXCEPT FOR YOUR BOTTOM LAYER/BASE WHICH STAYS IN ONE PIECE

<Janet> that I don't color?

<AliciaG> ah

<RubberRabb> NO JANET--NO CHEATING--YOU GOT TO COLOR THEM ALL

<deb> lol

<Janet> sigh. coloring isn't one of my skills

<RubberRabb> ONE REASON IS THAT IF YOU SCREW UP A CUT ON ONE OF THE LAYERS, YOU CAN USE ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES IN ITS PLACE!

<Janet> ohhhh then okay. because I'm sure to screw up a cut

<cak> Have you ever colored the base layer duller/grayer to mimic shadow?

<RubberRabb> THIS WAS EASY--JUST COLOR ALL THE OPEN CARDSTOCK WITH A GOLD GEL PEN

<RubberRabb> NOPE--YOU DON'T NEED TO

<RubberRabb> THE LAYERS MAKE THE SHADOWS

<cak> (yay!)

<RubberRabb> I COLOR ALL MINE EXACTLY THE SAME

<Janet> (I think I need to do thepainting tole stuff, I can paint better than I can cut)

<RubberRabb> SO WHEN I DID THE RABBITS, ALL THE JACKETS GOT DONE, THEN ALL THE PANTS, THEN THE FEET, THEN THE LEGS AND ARMS AND HEADS AND EARS, ETC.

<RubberRabb> TOLE PAINTING IS HARDER THAN THIS, JANET

<brenda> oh you did them in parts???????

<sparkle> janet, try painting all the layers

<sparkle> you can paint!

<Janet> there ya go! I'll paint all the layers.

<Janet> (then I have to cut watercolor paper, but at least they'll be colored good<g>)

<RubberRabb> YOU KNOW YOU CAN CHEAT ON PAPER TOLE> TAKE A FAVORITE CHRISTMAS CARD AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE FIVE OR SIX OF THEM AND CUT THEM UP AND LAYER THEM--THEY'RE ALREADY COLORED

<brenda> and besides we dont want you cutting

<Janet> LOL

<brenda> oh neat idea

<AliciaG> kewl

<cak> I bet the coloring in parts helps keep the coloring consistent from layer to layer

<RubberRabb> ANYWAY, NOW YOU HAVE CUT OUT SIX OF THE SEVEN ARMS YOU STAMPED ORIGINALLY, ALL COLORED IN, AND HAVE CUT THE OPENING IN THREE OF THEM

<Janet> okay!

<RubberRabb> TAKE ONE OF THE REMAINING THREE ARMS AND CALL THAT ONE THE TOP

<RubberRabb> THIS ONE WILL HAVE THE DOOR

<RubberRabb> YOU WANT TO CUT THE DOOR FIRST> A STRAIGHT SLIT DOWN INSIDE THE FRAME AND THEN CUT THE TOP AND BOTTOM

<RubberRabb> SO YOU HAVE TWO DOORS THAT OPEN IN THE CENTER

<RubberRabb> ARE YOU WITH ME ON THIS

<deb> sorta

<RubberRabb> IT'S AN "H" ONLY ON IT'S SIDE

<cak> yep! just cutting a opening-in-the-middle doorway

<RubberRabb> HI RAVEN SISTER MINE

<RubberRabb> DEB, DO YOU GET THE DOOR CONCEPT?

<deb> yep I think so

RavenAFK gets caught peening in on the way to the potty :-)

<RavenAFK> Hi Buunyo' mine!

<RubberRabb> YOU WANT TWO DOORS ON THE TOP ARM

<RubberRabb> YOU WERE WHAT, RAVEN? PEEING ON THE WAY IN?

<RavenAFK> OMG......

<deb> lkol

<RavenAFK> practically

deb closes her eyes

<RubberRabb> rofl

<TheQueen> lol

<brenda> roflol

deb hands raven some buttwipe tissue

<RavenAFK> LOL!

<TheQueen> sometime we MUST get that Raven housebroken

<enchy> ewwwwwwww

<RubberRabb> OK, NOW WE'VE CUT THE DOORS, YOU WANT TO TURN THAT TOP PIECE OVER

<RubberRabb> WE NEED TO COLOR THE BACKS OF THE DOORS

RavenAFK sticks her bird butt otta the window

<TheQueen> hi ench

<RubberRabb> SO YOU DON'T GET BARE CARDSTOCK (OR BARE RAVEN BUTT) WHEN YOU OPEN THE DOOR

<Janet> yikes!

<RubberRabb> YOU TAKE YOUR INKPAD AND PAT IT ON THE BACK OF THE CARDSTOCK

Janet flashes on that mental image of bird butt

<RubberRabb> IT WOULD BE SHOCKING, JANET, ESP IN A RELIQUARY

<Janet> indeed!

<kat> what color inkpad

<RubberRabb> PAT THE INK RIGHT OVER THE DOOR OPENING--THE COFFEEBEAN ONE YOU USED TO STAMP WITH

<AliciaG> ok, I'm fading fast, I think I'm gonna turn in early. Thanks for the class, goodnight!

<RubberRabb> NIGHT ALICIA

<deb> nite AliciaG

<RubberRabb> OK, NOW YOU HAVE STAMPED AND COLORED YOUR IMAGES, CUT THEM OUT, CUT THE DOORWAYS, CUT THE DOOR IN THE TOP ONE AND COLORED THE BACK OF IT

<AmyLPR> told you I'd be back

<RubberRabb> SET ALL OF THEM ASIDE EXCEPT THE TWO THAT ARE LEFT WITHOUT HOLES OR DOORWAYS

<AmyLPR> ty

<RubberRabb> THESE ONES ARE GOING TO BE CUT ALL TO PIECES

<RubberRabb> WE WANT THE BOTTOM RIM OF THE ARM FROM BOTH ARM PIECES

<RubberRabb> WE WANT THE HINGES FROM BOTH ARMS

<RavenAFK> Oh this card is awesome!!!!

<RubberRabb> (THERE ARE THREE SETS OF HINGES)

<RubberRabb> THX RAVEN, DID IT THIS AFTERNOON

<RubberRabb> BETWEEN THREE AND SIX

<RubberRabb> SO IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG

<Janet> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html is the class page, Amy

<RubberRabb> ANYWAY, YOU WANT THE BOTTOM RIMS, THE HINGES, THE LITTLE HINGES ON THE OUTSIDE EDGE

<Janet> I have another question.

<AmyLPR> ty

<RubberRabb> THE FRAME FROM AROUND THE DOORWAY AND THE BRACELET ON THE WRIST

<RubberRabb> WHAT JANET?

<Janet> I'm doing these flowers, should I cut the metals off the middles or leave the flower heads whole?

<RubberRabb> YOU CAN DO EITHER ONE, JANET

<Janet> the PETALS (not metals)

<Janet> or both maybe? maybe some with and without petals?

<RubberRabb> ASSEMBLE THE ENTIRE FLOWER FROM SCRATCH, MIDDLES AND PETALS, OR JUST WHOLE FLOWERS

<RubberRabb> OR ANY COMBO OF THE ABOVE

<brenda> oh neat idea

<RubberRabb> THAT'S PARTOF THE FUN OF PAPER TOLE

<Janet> or maybe the back ones whole and the two main ones with the petals separate? I bet that would look good

<RubberRabb> I WASN'T GOING TO DO THE HINGES BUT DECIDED TO AT THE LAST MINUTE

<RubberRabb> BECAUSE THEY ADD JUST THAT TINY DEPTH OF IMAGE

<kat> I thought they were real hinges.

<kat> cause they look so good

<RubberRabb> OK? HAVE YOU ALL FIGURED OUT WHAT I DID WITH ALL SEVEN IMAGES? ONE IS THE BASE

<RubberRabb> THREE ARE LAYERS

<RubberRabb> ONE IS THE TOP

<RubberRabb> AND THE OTHER TWO GOT CUT TO BITS

<cak> How do you decide how many pieces to cut out?

<RubberRabb> HONESTLY I DONT

<RubberRabb> I JUST STAMP AS MANY AS I CAN FIT ON THE STOCK I'M USING AND COLOR THEM AND CUT THEM OUT

<cak> just take an image and chop it up good?

<Janet> i guess if I decide that there's a couple petals I want to be higher up I can always stamp a few more copies, huh?

<RubberRabb> IF I START LAYERING AND IT PROVES TO BE TOO THICK, I'LL MAKE IT THINNER AND MAYBE MAKE TWO PAPER TOLED IMAGES INSTEAD OF JUST ONE

<kat> do you ever curl parts of the image

<RubberRabb> YES, JANET, I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT PARTIAL IMAGES HERE BECAUSE THAT CAN GET TOO CONFUSING

<Janet> I was born confused.<g>

<RubberRabb> BUT YOU CAN DO THAT--SINCE ALL I WANTED FROM THE LAST TWO ARMS WAS STUFF FROM THE WRIST DOWN

<RubberRabb> I COULD HAVE JUST STAMPED AND COLORED THAT PART

<RubberRabb> BUT IT WAS BETTER TO HAVE ALL SEVEN IN CASE I SCREWED UP A DOORWAY CUT OR SOMETHING

<RubberRabb> OK NOW WE HAVE EVERYTHING CUT OUT, RIGHT?

<Janet> almost

<brenda> yes

<deb> janet is cutting her metals

<RubberRabb> NOW YOU GET YOUR HANDY DANDY GOLD LEAFING PEN AND COLOR THE EDGES OF EVERYTHING

<brenda> janet is cutting????

<deb sees the blow torch from here

<Janet> (cutting my last image, the petals off the centers) (putting the petal to the metal yep yep)

<RubberRabb> AND I MEAN EVERYTHING

<brenda> oh really?

<Janet> ooooooo kewlness!!

<RubberRabb> IN JANET'S CASE, SHE'LL COLOR THE EDGES OF HER FLOWERS AND FLOWER PETALS TO MATCH THE COLORS OF HER FLOWERS AND FLOWER PETALS OR LEAVES

<brenda> that is the neat look on the arm

<RubberRabb> BUT SINCE THIS IS A RELIQUARY, WE WANT A HINT OF GOLD

<RubberRabb> SO ALL THE EDGES GET COLORED--***JUST****THE EDGES

<Janet> (i wasn't gonna mention it, but i'd already grabbed for the copper leafing pen)

<RubberRabb> THE WAY YOU CONTROL THE EDGE COLORING IS TO COLOR FROM THE BACK

<RubberRabb> SO IF YOU SLIP YOU DON'T GET GOLD (OR JANET'S COPPER) ALL OVER EVERYTHING YOU HAVE ALREADY COLORED

<deb> good tip

<Janet> if I slip, can i just use the goofed one in a middle layer?

<brenda> oh neat idea

<RubberRabb> SO TURN THE PIECES OVER AND COLOR THOSE EDGES WITH THE LEAFING PEN. DON'T FORGET THE EDGES OF THE DOORS AND DOORWAYS

<Janet> (yeah, so I already slipped once)

<RubberRabb> THAT IS POSSIBLE JANET AS LONG AS YOU CAN'T SEE IT WHEN YOU LAYER IT

<RubberRabb> TURN THEM OVER AND COLOR

<Janet> we'll see

<RubberRabb> ON THE DINKY INKY PIECES, USE TWEEZERS TO HOLD THEM AND TOUCH THE EDGES TO THE PEN

<RubberRabb> THE PURPOSE IS THAT YOU DON'T WANT BARE CARDSTOCK SHOWING

<Janet> actually i'm not in bad shape because i was doing the edges before i colored part of these

<RubberRabb> IF YOU AREN'T SURE WHAT COLOR TO COLOR THEM, PICK THE COLOR YOU STAMPED THEM IN

<RubberRabb> NOW, WHILE THEY'RE ALL FLIPPED OVER, YOU GET FOAM TAPE AND SUPERSTRENGTH TAPE AND PUT IT ON THE BACKS OF THE ARMS

<RubberRabb> YOU GOTTA GO LOOK AT PICTURE #3 SO YOU SEE WHERE IT ALL GOES

<RubberRabb> AND ACTUALLY, I ENDED UP PUTTING JUST A TINY STRIP OF FOAM TAPE UP THE THUMB AND PINKIE OF THE TOP IMAGE

<deb> hi dove

<RubberRabb> OK? IT IS A 1/4" WIDE STRIP OF FOAM TAPE UP THE CENTER OF EACH ARM (MAKE SURE YOU DON'T PUT IT OVER THE OPENINGS!

<deb> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<Janet> hi dove. class page is at http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<RubberRabb> AND THE REST OF THE TAPE TO THE EDGES

<cak> do you always put the foam tape up the middle and thinner tape along the sides?

<RubberRabb> USUALLY, CAK

<RubberRabb> BUT IF YOU ARE DOING PETALS

<dove2> Hi I am dove's hubby. I am just getting her on line.

<RubberRabb> YOU WANT THE FOAM AT THE TIPS OF THE PETALS

<RubberRabb> AND THE SHALLOWER TAPE NEAR THE CENTER

<RubberRabb> YOU HAVE TO GRASP THE IDEA OF THE SHAPE OF THE THING YOU ARE MAKING

<RubberRabb> IF IT IS ROUNDED LIKE AN ARM, IT WILL POKE OUT IN THE CENTER AND FADE AWAY AT THE EDGES

<RubberRabb> IF IT IS LIKE A LEAF, IT MAY BULGE IN THE MIDDLE OR EITHER SIDE OF THE VEIN

<Janet> oh yes!

<RubberRabb> SO YOU PUT THE TAPE BEHIND THE PART YOU WANT TO BULGE

<RubberRabb> IF YOU DON'T HAVE TAPE

<stocksands> is the super strength tape the same as embossable tape?

<kat> so you do curl images

<RubberRabb> YES SS

<RubberRabb> YES, YOU SORT OF SHAPE THEM--I ROUND THEM OVER MY THUMB

<RubberRabb> NO FOLDS OR BENDS, BUT JUST A MOLDING

<RubberRabb> IF YOUDON'T HAVE TAPE YOU CAN USE HOT GLUE

<kat> I thought the hand looked molded (that is a better word)

<Janet> like i'd want my petals to go up and then down sort of, so shape over my thumb close to the centers. i think

<deb> I love the hand

<RubberRabb> BUT THAT TAKES PRACTICE TO GET THE DEPTH RIGHT

<Lynn> You can use the side of a scissor blade to shape things. Pull across.

<kat> Doing other techniques, I have curled petals in the palm of my hand with my thumb (other hand of course)

<RubberRabb> LYNN YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON VELVETEEN PAPER

<RubberRabb> YOU'D SMEAR THE COLORED PENCIL

<RubberRabb> AND IF YOU USE THE BLADE ON LEAFED PARTS YOU CAN SCRAPE OFF THE LEAF

<Janet> i can do it on watercolor paper, though!

<kat> i velveteen paper the same as suede paper

<Lynn> Got cha' Thanks.

<Janet> (i hope<g>)

<RubberRabb> BETTER ALWAYS TO BE GENTLE AND JUST USE YOUR FINGERS

<kat> that should be is

<RubberRabb> THAT WAY YOU DON'T TEAR IT

<RubberRabb> DON'T KNOW KAT--THE STUFF SOMEONE SENT ME WAS CALLED VELVETEEN PAPER

<kat> ty

<RubberRabb> ALL I HAD WAS TWO SHEETS OF IT

<RubberRabb> IT HAS A NAP LIKE VELVETEEN--FURRY!

<kat> very pretty

<Janet> it's gorgeous

<RubberRabb> ANYWAY--EVERYONE GOT YOUR TAPE DONE?

<RubberRabb> OR AT LEAST SEEN IT? WE ONLY GOT A FEW MINUTES TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER

<RubberRabb> START WITH THE ONE OF THE THREE MIDDLE PIECES, TAKE OFF ALL THE COVERS ON THE FOAM TAPE AND SUPER TAPE AND PLACE IT EXACTLY ON YOUR BASE IMAGE

<RubberRabb> PRESS FIRMLY ON THE TAPE--YOU'LL SEE IT ALREADY IS MAKING AN ARM

<RubberRabb> DO THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND FINALLY WITH THE TOP PIECE.

<RubberRabb> BINGO, YOU GOTS AN ARM WITH A DOOR!

<kat> is the foam tape thinner so it doesn't get too bulky

<RubberRabb> I BUY MY FOAM TAPE AT WALMART IN THE PAINT DEPT

<kat> ty

<RubberRabb> THE SAME THICKNESS IT'S ABOUT 1/16" THICK

<RubberRabb> IT DOES GET 'BULKY'--BUT IT MAKES YOUR ARM ROUND

<brenda> big lots carries it too

<RubberRabb> YOU MIGHT NOTICE THE VERY TOP LAYER ISN'T LINING UP PERFECTLY AT THE EDGES

<RubberRabb> WHICH IS **WHY**YOU HAD TO COLOR ALL THE LAYERS

<RubberRabb> THAT'S WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO

<RubberRabb> NOW I GLUED A KEY ON THE BASE IMAGE BEHIND THE DOORS

<RubberRabb> AND I SQUEEZED A TINY BIT OF SILICONE GLUE ONTO A PIECE OF SCRAP CARD AND USED A TOOTHPICK TO APPLY IT TO THE BACK OF THE HINGES, THE SIDE HINGES

<RubberRabb> THE FRAME AROUND THE DOORS

<RubberRabb> AND THE BRACELET AND BOTTOM RIMS

<kat> hi maggie

<Janet> http://home.mmcable.com/rubberrabbit/renrab.html

<RubberRabb> THE HINGES ARE TWO IMAGES DEEP

MaggieB waves to all~~~~~~~~

<RubberRabb> (AND I CUT THE HINGES APART AT THE HINGE--SO THOSE WERE TEENY WEENIE PIECES)

<RubberRabb> SO IS THE BOTTOM RIM

<brenda> RR do you use tweezers alot to layer these?

<RubberRabb> BUT THE FRAME IS ONLY ONE DEEP BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT PROBLEMS WITH THE DOORS OPENING

<RubberRabb> YES

<brenda> ty

<cak> You use the silicone to glue because they're such small pieces or to give it more depth?

<RubberRabb> YOU HAVE TO USE TWEEZERS FOR SOME OF THE TINY PIECES TO GET THEM EXACTLY OVER THE IMAGES

<RubberRabb> BOTH CAK

<RubberRabb> SILICONE GIVES DEPTH

<RubberRabb> AND IT STICKS LAYERS TOGETHER

<RubberRabb> JANET I RECOMMEND SILICONE IF YOU DO TINY PETALS

<RubberRabb> A SHALLOW DOT AT ONE END AND A BIGGER DOT ON THE TIPS

<Janet> would my e6000 work?

<RubberRabb> NOT AS WELL

<Janet> okay. i do have real silicone glue. (somewhere)

<RubberRabb> E6000 IS GREAT TO STICK TWO THINGS TOGETHER, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE BODY OF SILICONE GLUE

<RubberRabb> BTW WHEN YOU BUY SILICONE GLUE GET A SMALL TUBE

<RubberRabb> IT DRIES OUT FAST

<Janet> well except when you want something perfectly flat, then it seems to have body

<deb> lol

<RubberRabb> AND WHEN YOU USE IT SQUEEZE OUT JUST A TINY BIT AT A TIME

<RubberRabb> IT SETS UP REALLY QUICK

<brenda> yes it does

<RubberRabb> AND GLUING TINY PIECES WITH GLUE THAT IS SETTING UP IS A PAIN

<brenda> and i am old and slow

<deb> pshawwwwwwww

<RubberRabb> SO JUST A TINY BIT, AND USE A TOOTHPICK TO APPLY IT, AND TWEEZERS TO PLACE IT

<cak> the silicone glue doesn't set up fast?

<brenda> very fast

<RubberRabb> THE SILICONE GLUE SETS UP FROM THE MINUTE YOU SQUEEZE IT OUT--NO GOING TO THE BATHROOM

<RubberRabb> IT WILL BE SET UP BY THE TIME YOU GET BACK!

<cak> (sorry, I thought you were talking about E6000)

<RubberRabb> WHEN I GOT ALL THIS PUT TOGETHER, IT SCANNED UP PRETTY DULL

<deb> so know wher eyou want to put it before you put glue on it

<brenda> i had a hard time working with it

<RubberRabb> SO I WENT BACK AND GOT SOME OF THOSE HOLELESS PEARLS

<Janet> it looks spectacular to me

<deb> me too

<brenda> me too

<RubberRabb> AND GLUED THEM ALL AROUND THE FRAME OF THE DOOR AND ON THE BRACELET AND ON THE DOOR AS TWO DOORKNOBS

<RubberRabb> I USED THE SILICONE GLUE TO GLUE THEM

<RubberRabb> SINCE I HAD IT OUT ALREADY

<RubberRabb> SET IT ASIDE TO DRY, THEN CUT AND LAYERED THE OTHER PAPERS

<RubberRabb> PAINTED TISSUE FROM ENCHANTED INK

<RubberRabb> AND GOLD MATTE CARDSTOCK FROM MARCOS PAPERS

<RubberRabb> THEN I USED TACKY GLUE TO GLUE THE STRING OF PEARLS AROUND THE EDGE OF THE PAINTED TISSUE

<RubberRabb> AND I USED FOAM TAPE TO MOUNT THE ARM TO THE BACKING

<RubberRabb> SO THERE'S A BIT OF DEPTH THERE, TOO

<RubberRabb> WHEW

<RubberRabb> ANY QUESTIONS?

<RubberRabb> IT WAS HARDER TO EXPLAIN IT THAN TO DO IT

<deb> awesome

<cak> How do you protect these when you mail them?

<brenda> fantastic class

<Janet> put them in a shadow box frame?

<Janet> (this is where the rabbits are going to end up, in a shallow shadow box)

<deb> hand stamp

<kat> great class rr

<RubberRabb> PUT THEM IN BUBBLE WRAP AND PUT THEM IN A BOX OR BETWEEN TWO THICK PIECES OF CARDSTOCK IN A BUBBLE WRAP ENVELOPE

<RubberRabb> THE SILICONE GLUE AND FOAM TAPE ACTUALLY MAKE STURDY PIECES

<RubberRabb> BUT DON'T EVER ASK ME TO WORK WITH VELVETEEN PAPER AGAIN

<RubberRabb> ICK

<cak> how come? fuzzies?

<RubberRabb> COLORED PENCIL SMEARS ON IT!!

<RubberRabb> SO EVERY TIME I HANDLED IT, I HAD TO STOP AND WASH MY HANDS TO KEEP THE WHITE CLEAN

<deb> really?

<Janet> but the end result is so gorgeous

<RubberRabb> YEP

<Janet> I'm so lucky to have gotten this piece in the auction

<RubberRabb> GLAD YOU LIKE IT JANET

<Janet> I love it.

<RubberRabb> THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER

<brenda> one of a kind

<Janet> it's going to be hard to give it over to my mom, but she will cry real tears over it

<deb> did you sign it rr

<Janet> (I'll make sure she doesn't drip on it, though)

<deb> lol

<RubberRabb> IF YOU WANT TO SEE MORE PAPER TOLE, GO GET THE RUBBERSTAMPMADNESS FROM JULYAUG

<Janet> she signed it to my mom!! (so now I HAVE to give it)

<RubberRabb> AND FIND MY ARTICLE IN THERE

<deb> lol janet

<Janet> That's your article in RSM

<RubberRabb> I DID A SUNFLOWER IN THERE

<RubberRabb> AND I CUT OUT 100 PETALS

<deb> wow

<Janet> this will satisfy the anal part of me that likes AIG on acetate

<deb> don't think I have quite THAT much patience

<RubberRabb> THREE CENTERS OF THE SUNFLOWER AND FRINGED THE EDGES

<deb> but I could try some other image

<RubberRabb> AND THREE EACH OF THE REMAINING IMAGES> ANGEL, SLEEPER AND TULIP WITH LEAVES

<sparkle> ROFL..yes it will Janet

<RubberRabb> IT'S THE COLLAGE FROM STAMP OUT CUTE

<RubberRabb> IT'S SORT OF ADDICTING ONCE YOU START

<RubberRabb> NO EMBOSSING, NO FANCY COLORING NEEDED

<RubberRabb> JUST CUTTING AND GLUING

<RubberRabb> AND EVERYONE GOES GAGA OVER IT

<deb> do you leave the stamped black edge on it?

<RubberRabb> YES

<RubberRabb> AND i COLOR THE EDGES OF ALL THE PIECES TOO

<deb> black?

<RubberRabb> IF I STAMPED THEM IN BLACK

<RubberRabb> YES, BUT USUALLY I STAMP IN DARK BROWN

<deb> ok

<RubberRabb> SO I COLOR THEM DARK BROWN

<RubberRabb> WELL, I GOTTA GO--HAVE TO RETURN A PHONE CALL

<cak> Thank you RR--wonderful class (and wonderful patience)

<RubberRabb> IF ANYONE WANTS A SPECIAL FROM POSTMODERN DESIGN, SHE'S SELLING HER CATALOG AND VIDEO FOR $22 POSTPAID

<deb> thanks rr

<brenda> bye rr

<brenda> and thanks for class

<sparkle> we gotta get her in the mall

<sparkle> we need her in the mall

<RubberRabb> AND ADMIRE THE WEBSITE--RSM NAMED IT AS A COOL WEBSITE IN THE LATEST ISSUE

<RubberRabb> AND JANET TAUGHT ME HOW TO WRITE HTML

<Janet> WOO HOO!!!

Janet preens

<kat> thanks rr, great class

<RubberRabb> WELL, SHE NEEDS A WEBSITE BUT SHE JUST HASN'T HAD TIME YET

<cak> (Janet does good work too)

<deb> we can plug her when we get her in the mall

<Janet> This is going to be great fun.

MaggieB thinks janet should preen

<Janet> Thank you so much.

<RubberRabb> GOODNIGHT ALL --THANKS FOR BEING A GOOD CLASS

<Janet> y'all were great students at html class

<kat> night rr

<deb> nite

<MaggieB> night rr

<Janet> Thank you!!

<cak> We were? (I'm glad you thought so)

<lu> nite all - ty rr

<deb> lol cak

<MaggieB> lol cak

<Janet> I was at my most angelic

<deb> uh huh

<MaggieB> lol janet, you? angelic? rofl

<sparkle> ROFL

<Janet> working right along. I didn't even complain when I dropped like 23 petals on the floor

<cak> Yeah, yeah--leaving all the work for me

<sparkle> ROFL

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