<cak> Here's the teacher
<Lory> kaye, the way i knew, was I asked brenda, lol
<LiaO> what did i miss earlier?
<Janet> whew. i think i'm a little fried. LOL
<Janet> Hi, Lia. I just got here. Trivia ran late and I HAD to go potty
<LiaO> my eyeballs are fried
<LiaO> LOL
<Janet> and got another cuppa coffee
<cak> Blink break everybody!
<marla> lol
<Kaye> janet my stamps came today
<LiaO> blink break-- does that mean i can go take out my contacts?
<Janet> yay!
<Kaye> they are great
<cak> If'n you can still see withouth 'em
<Janet> so is everybody having fun at the convention?
<Kaye> big time
<Lory> hey janet, i got wire in my nifty thrifty, lol
<cindyc> yup!
<LiaO> oh, i'd have to have my glasses!
<Janet> LOL Lory!
<cak> definitely
<Janet> Janet!
<whipprstam> Janet!
<whipprstam> LOL
<Kaye> what are we doing tonight'
<LiaO> boy my craft table is already so full i can't see what's what
<Janet> okay. Someone had asked about the pi necklaces and this is easy and while you can get the kit from me, pi stones are at most bead stores so if you have a rock shop or bead store in the area, you can get these.
<Janet> http://www.weebewire.com/class/pendant/pi/
<LiaO> what is a pi stone?
<Janet> (if i put it in the topic people will see it and also i'll remember where te page is)
<Janet> it's one of those doughnut shaped stones.
<LiaO> oh! i've made them from poly clay
<LiaO> would that work?
<Janet> yes!
<Janet> you can make them from poly clay!
<LiaO> any size?
<Janet> is sparkle in here?
<Janet> any size you like
<Janet> SPARKLE!
<Janet> pay attention to me, I got a poly clay question, like where is the best place to mail order your clay from.
<Janet> (the answer is from sparkle's Quintessentials)
<Janet> They'd be pretty easy to make from polyclay too.
<cak> (everyone type her name? I think her computer dings when her name is typed?)
yamamama is sparkles mom,, and yes, seh is the best place
<Kaye> sparkle do you sell big blocks
<Janet> and you could cover it with cane slices
<Janet> she does sell the big blocks
<cindyc> we got an url yet?
<Janet> good price on premo
<cak> http://www.weebewire.com/class/pendant/pi/
<Janet> http://www.weebewire.com/class/pendant/pi/
<Kaye> sparkle are u there
<Janet> is the class url
<Janet> sparkle
<Janet> sparkle
<cindyc> thx
<MomCat> Thank you
<Kaye> love premo
<Janet> These would make great gifts, too.
<Janet> they are fast and easy to make
<Janet> and cheap!
<Janet> look really impressive
<Janet> but easy and cheap
<LiaO> sounds like a winner to me!
<Janet> (just like me)
<LiaO> LOL
<Kaye> lol
<Janet> LOL
<Kaye> you are too funny
<LiaO> so where is the place to get big packs online? did i miss that?
<LiaO> packs of clay that is
<Janet> oh my! can you picture a polymer clay doughnut stone? like in a scenic or landscape design, then wrapped like that rose quartz one?
<sparkle> ok, I'm here
<sparkle> sorry, had to do an ice cream run
<Janet> http://www.cyberstampers.com/convention/quintessentials
<Janet> We're asking about the big bricks of polyclay
<Janet> we're going to make pi stones outta clay if we don't wanna buy the gemstone ones.
yamamama ducks to avoid the big bricks being tossed from california to texas
<Janet> i sell the gemstone ones, $2 for the quarter sized ones and $4 for the silver dollar sized ones. But polyclay ones would be even cheaper.
<sparkle> I don't always have the big bricks in stock, but I can get 'em for you fast enough
<sparkle> in whatever color you want
<RRabbit23> sorry--had to go take the dog out and put him to bed.. what did I miss so far
<LiaO> i made a donut w/ black clay and translucent once and used irridescent mylar as inclusion --looked like opal
<Janet> Us speculating about making our pi stones outta polyclay
<Janet> hi, Windy. Class page is at http://www.weebewire.com/class/pendant/pi/
<Janet> (only first we're talking about making the stones outta polyclay)
<Janet> (and weebe sells a class kit of them on the kits page)
<Janet> but Sparkle there sells polyclay
<RubberRabb> oh, that sounds neat> we need to get some of Vyx's opal stones into pi shapes
<Janet> and convention special is buy how many? blocks of premo and get one free
<Janet> oh!
<sparkle> buy 3 get one free...
<Janet> yes! the faux opals made into pi stones and wire wrapped!
<sparkle> and if you mention janet's pi class, free shipping
<Janet> you can even get the powdered pearls you need to make faux opals at Quintessentials
<Janet> woo hoo!!
<LiaO> any color clay?
<Janet> you sell all the premo colors right?
<sparkle> any color...even if I have to re-order it 'cause I'm out <G>
<Janet> (some wire class. LOL. but I never thought about makign these outta polyclay and i'm excited about that, I gotta try it now)
<RubberRabb> can I ask a question about clay even though we're in a pi class
<Janet> sure. I'm a clay wannabe
<Kaye> i love the colors for the powdered pearls
<Janet> and now sparkle is paying attention. LOL
<sparkle> rofl
<Janet> oh me too. love those pearls
<RubberRabb> what is the difference between premo fimo sculpey 1-3 etc
<sparkle> well, it was CHoklit ice cream
<sparkle> premo is the strongest, easiest to condition
<Janet> oh well in that case you're excused.
<Kaye> premo is the strongest
<sparkle> fimo maintains the absolute best detail but is a pain to work
<Kaye> sculpey III is for the kids
<Janet> sculpey 3 melts in the summer in Texas when you're trying to work with it
<sparkle> and sculpey III sucks <G>
<Janet> hi, Windy
<Janet> hi, phil
<phil> hi
<windy> hi janet
<RubberRabb> uh oh--so I should use my sculpey III for molds?
<sparkle> yes..
<Janet> i have trouble with my fimo, getting it soft enough to work with
<Kaye> oh yeah
<RubberRabb> for the lack of anything better to do with it?
<Janet> yeah, utee molds.
<Janet> or when the nieces come visit, that's what they like to work with
<LiaO> i like using old hard fimo to make faux turquoise, lapis, etc.
<Kaye> you have to use a food processor
<Janet> (cuz that's all I'll give 'em)
<RubberRabb> oh, ok--thanks--that's what I needed to know
<Janet> we should have a faux stone outta clay night!
<RubberRabb> so premo is the stuff to buy nowadays
<Janet> Vyx taught us how to make cool faux opals
<Kaye> yes
<LiaO> did i get us on the wrong track? :-|
<Janet> Premo is especially what to buy this week, buy 3 get one free
<Kaye> no prob
<sparkle> rofl..there's no wrong track when it comes to shopping!
<RubberRabb> because I cannot dedicate anymore kitchen tools to crafts
<Janet> LOL I love the polyclay.
<Kaye> they have great colors
<Kaye> what else are kitchen tools for
<Janet> RubberRabbit, I solved that. I dedicated ALL my kitchen tools to crafts. And I just eat out or carry in. No more cooking!
<sparkle> then, rabbit, you e-mail me and say "please sell me one of those acrylic rods for rolling clay you've not gotten on the webpage yet"
<RubberRabb> LOL
<Kaye> how much i need one
<cak> ooo, you still have more Sparkle?
<sparkle> LOL..I think I still have a few left
<sparkle> lemme count
<Janet> how much for an acrylic rod, Sparkle?
<Janet> throw one in my order?
<cak> (but not mine please)
<sparkle> lol..they're $8 incl. shipping
<sparkle> and now there's 1 left
<Janet> oh, while she's counting i'll tell my special for class, which is free shipping of any pi kit
<Janet> okay, i owe ya another $8
<Janet> i just sent you major bucks today too.
<sparkle> lol
<sparkle> yep
<Janet> (I really AM a clay wanna be)
<RubberRabb> well, right now I need to just get fixed for wire and finish all that paper tole I'm supposed to do..
<LiaO> how much are the pi kits? easy enough for 11 yr olds to do?
<Janet> very easy!!
<RubberRabb> and I have a nice pi stone in lapis that I'd like to learn how to do something with
<Janet> $4 for the small pi kit that's the quarter shaped stone and $7 for the large pi kit
<RubberRabb> with the wire Janet is sending me
<Janet> comes with the stone and the wire
<Janet> i am sending you lots of wire!
<RubberRabb> my pi stone is about silver dollar size
<LiaO> Janet> very Kewl!
<RubberRabb> don't know if it is real lapis or not but it is pretty
<Sandy> Getting late..got to get up for school tomorrow...good night
<cak> (night Sandy
Janet> then you need about 12-18" of wire. probably 20 gauge
cindyc says g'nite... and thx for the memories....
<RubberRabb> ok
<RubberRabb> night cindy
<cak> (night cindy)
<Janet> let's pretend you have a quarter-sized stone.
<RubberRabb> ok
<RubberRabb> I pretend real good
<Janet> and you want to wrap it all the way around like the green one on the class page
RubberRabbit pretends to hop around
<Janet> LOL
<RubberRabb> (but I'm actually exhausted)
<Janet> measure your wire and start in the middle of the wire.
<RubberRabb> and still not feeling too great
<RubberRabb> ok--so find the middle
<Janet> and just wrap it around and around your stone until you meet in the middle
<Janet> yep and wrap up one side of the stone with half and up the other side with the other side of the wire
<RubberRabb> both ends or just one end
<Janet> hi, Christa!
<RubberRabb> ok
<Janet> class page is at http://www.weebewire.com/class/pendant/pi/
<JonaFromGe> good
<RubberRabb> so the whole stone gets wrapped up
<Lory> nite all
<Janet> yep
<RubberRabb> night lorymom
<Janet> don't worry about the jaggies yet
<cak> so it may not go on smoothly?
<Janet> when you meet in the middle, twist the two wires together to secure them
RubberRabbit tries not to worry
<Janet> it will probably go on smoothly, but maybe not as tight as you want it to be
<RubberRabb> it makes for gray hares
<Janet> lol
<RubberRabb> ok
<cak> ah
<RubberRabb> so I'm pretending to wrap my stone all up both sides and twisted at the top (sounds like someone I know)
<Janet> so with one end of the wire (you probably have two inches or so left on each end) you wrap it around your pliers to make a circle/oval...
<Janet> LOL
<Janet> then with the other wire, you secure the bottom of it
<windy> goodnight
<RubberRabb> aloop?
<RubberRabb> ok, a wrapped up loop
<Janet> yes, this is so easy to do if you lay say the round nosed pliers next to the stone and just wind the wire around one of the jaws twice...
<Janet> then let the wire hang down the other side of the stine...
<Janet> stone
<Janet> then with the other wire wrap that around horizontally right next to the stone
<RubberRabb> yeah, I think I can handle that part--easier than coils
<Janet> then use your wire cutters to cut off the extra wire
<RubberRabb> ok
<JonaFromGe> Janet could you write capt
<Janet> if you're planning to wear this with a fat chain, SURE CAPS, IF YOU HAVE A THICKER CHAIN...
<Janet> YOU'LL WANT TO WRAP IT AROUND THE PLIER JAW DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF IT
<Janet> IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT LIKE AN EARRING AND WANT A DAINTY LIL LOOP, GO WRAP IT TOWARDS THE TIP OF THE JAW MORE
<Janet> THEN YOU TRIM OFF THE EXTRA WIRE, THEN USE A METAL FILE TO SMOOTH THOSE CUT ENDS
<Kaye> how did you do the white stone
<Janet> OR THEY'LL HOOK AND RUIN YOUR NEW SILK BLOUSE
<Janet> THE WHITE STONE IS ACTUALLY A REALLY PALE ROSE QUARTZ AND THIS WAS EVEN EASIER...
<Janet> YOU MAKE YOUR LOOP IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR WIRE BEFORE YOU EVEN GET THE STONE OUTTA THE BAGGIE...
<RubberRabb> eek--what kind of metal file?
<JonaFromGe> easier???
RubberRabbit doesn't know if she has a metal file
RubberRabbit knows she doesn't have a new silk blouse though
<Janet> THEN WRAP IT DOWN BOTH SIDES UNTIL YOU LIKE HOW FAR YOU'VE WRAPPED, THEN MAKE A COIL ON THE END OF IT
<Janet> VOILA, YOU'RE DONE!
<Janet> DIAMOND FILE IS THE BEST
<Janet> I GOT 'EM FOR $2 I THINK.
<Janet> NOT A GOOD DIAMOND FILE, THOSE ARE LIKE $10
<Janet> BUT ONES THAT WILL WORK, METAL FILES, FOR $2
<Janet> OR JUST GO TO THE HARDWARE STORE
<Janet> LOWE'S HAS 'EM
<JonaFromGe> Janet explain coil for me
<JonaFromGe> please
<RubberRabb> like the diamond files they sell for fingernails? that kind of diamond file?
<LiaO> Just looked at the picture --very pretty!
<Janet> OKAY. SEE THE SWIRLY BITS ON THE ENDS OF THE WIRE?
<RubberRabb> oh, I see, never mind
<RubberRabb> will go to Lowes--new one just opened and I need to go see anyway
<Janet> YOU PUT THE VERY END OF YOUR WIRE ON THE VERY TIP OF YOUR ROUND-NOSED PLIERS
<Janet> AND BEND IT AROUND THE VERY TIP TO MAKE A LOOP
<Janet> THEN KEEP BENDING THE WIRE AROUND IT TO MAKE A COIL
<JonaFromGe> Jaanet you are great
<Janet> YOU CAN MAKE YOUR COIL ALL THE WAY TO THE STONE, OR YOU CAN LEAVE SOME WIRE TO BEND IN QUIRKS AROUND IT
<RubberRabb> I need to go now--thanks Sparkle for answering my questions; and thanks Janet for helping me get hooked on wire
<Janet> THIS IS EASY!!
<RubberRabb> I need to go to bed and kill this dang virus thing
<Janet> TAKE GOOD CARE, RR
<Janet> OH!
<Janet> TO MAKE THE WRAPPING TIGHTER?
<JonaFromGe> bye
<LiaO> well, you make all that curling SOUND easy; doing it is another thing!
<RubberRabb> yes
<Janet> IT MAY FEEL A LITTLE LOOSE AROUND THE STONE?
<RubberRabb> yes
<Janet> TAKE YOUR PLIERS AND MAKE KINKS IN THE WIRE
<Janet> JUST GRAB THE WIRE WITH THE TIPS AND TWIST YOUR WRIST
<Janet> IT KINKS THE WIRE AND MAKES IT TIGHTER
<Janet> AND LOOKS REALLY PRETTY
<RubberRabb> ok--that sounds like a plan--work a twisty bit in the wire
<RubberRabb> cool thanks Janet
<phil> I thought the kinks were part of the design, they are actually to hide problems
<RubberRabb> if I have any questions, I'll know where to find you
<Janet> IF YOU SEE THE FINISHED GREEN ONE, YOU SEE THE KINKS
<RubberRabb> LOL
<Janet> IT LOOKS NEAT
<RubberRabb> night all..
<Janet> PHIL, THEY ARE BOOTH
<Janet> BOTH. LOL
<JonaFromGe> night RR
<Janet> IT IS A NICE HAPPY ACCIDENT THEY ALSO TIGHTEN THE LOOSE WIRE!
<LiaO> i love happy accidents! :--)
<Janet> THESE ARE SO EASY TO DO. AND LOOK SO NEAT
<Janet> AND YOU CAN MAKE SMALL ONES FOR EARRINGS. OR BIG HUGE ONES FOR PENDANTS
<Janet> EVEN GOING TO THE BEAD STORE, THE PI STONES ARE NOT EXPENSIVE.
<cak> these are so elegant
<LiaO> gots to go; can't wait to give a whirl! Thanks, Janet; earrings sounds really good!
<Janet> MY TOO EXPENSIVE BEAD STORE CHARGES $6-10 FOR THEM
<Janet> I CHARGE $2-4 BUT EVEN FULL PRICE THEY ARE INEXPENSIVE.
<Janet> YOU BETTER MAKE THESE, LIA!
<Janet> THESE ARE FUN AND EASY.
<Janet> ANY QUESTIONS?
<cak> they sure sound easy
<sparkle> night all...I'm off to dream of stone donuts <G>
<Kaye> they sound too easy to be true
<JonaFromGe> Janet how much is SH to germany?
<cak> Night sparkel
<sparkle> they're way easy Kaye
<Janet> i'M GOING TO DREAM OF CLAY ONES!
<Kaye> night
<sparkle> night
<cak> uh, sparkle
<JonaFromGe> night sparkle
<Janet> CHRISTA, I CAN SEND THESE GLOBAL PRIORITY FOR $4.95 USD I THINK
<whipprstam> nite everyone, I've had a great time tonite
<Kaye> night
<Janet> JANET, I'M SO GLAD YOU GOT ON GOOD THIS TIME.
<JonaFromGe> ok
<cak> (night whippr)
<phil> Janet the small global priority prices have changed
<Janet> I THINK THAT IS HOW MUCH THE NON-US SHIPPING BUTTON WILL CHARGE YOU
<whipprstam> guess i could change my name back huh? DUH!
<Janet> TO $5.95?
<whipprstam> I'll be back, I have missed you all
<Janet> I'VE MISSED YOU TOO!
<Janet> US JANETS NEED TO STICK TOGETHER. :)
<phil> some are $5.00 and some are $4.00 they told me today at the PO
<whipprstam> Janets rule!!!!
<whipprstam> say goodnight Janet
<Janet> CHRISTA, THAT $4.95 IS PROBABLY CLOSE. IF IT'S LESS I'LL STICK MORE WIRE OR SOMETHING IN THERE FOR YOU.
<phil> they are all even money now
<Janet> GOODNIGHT JANET
<Janet> LOL
<whipprstam> goodnight Janet!
<whipprstam> LOL
<Janet> I DO LIKE EVEN MONEY BETTER.
<Janet> IT'S EASIER TO ADD
<phil> yes
<Janet> AND I HAVE A VERY LAZY BRAIN
<JonaFromGe> ok I hope I can order witha friend cause I have no cc
<Janet> AT LEAST WITH NUMBERS
<Kaye> math is evil
<Kaye> and wrong
<phil> I love math
<Janet> LOL
<JonaFromGe> for me it depeands on what for I use it:-)
<Janet> CHRISTA, IF YOU CAN'T, THEN SEND ME LIKE 5 PERCENT EXTRA AND I'LL JUST CHANGE THEM OVER IN AUSTRIA IN JANUARY
<Janet> ROSEM!
<Rosem> hiya
<JonaFromGe> I like to count how much stamps I have but I hate it if my DH comes ans counts how much money I spend on things like that
<cak> lol
<Janet> LOL
<Kaye> mine knows better
<Janet> SO IF YOU NEED TO SLIP IN THE DM, I CAN SPEND IT WHEN I'M IN AUSTRIA
<Kaye> that is dangerous
<Janet> I WISH PAY PAL WAS BETTER FOR GERMANY
<JonaFromGe> I don't send money via mail anymore I lost too much
<Janet> I DO TAKE PAY PAL
<Janet> YOU DID? THAT'S AWFUL. I'VE NEVER LOST ANY IN THE MAIL.
<JonaFromGe> but they also want a cc
<JonaFromGe> about 400$
<phil> I just got my VSN today and Nancie Waterman used my stamps for a project she did in the magazine
<Janet> OH EXCELLENT, PHIL!
<Kaye> cool
<Janet> I'M USING ONE OF YOURS FOR SOMETHING I'M TEACHING LATER IN THE WEEK.
<Janet> I WISH I COULD RMEMEBER WHAT. LOL
<Kaye> what
<phil> what day
<Janet> OHi I REMEMBER NOW. IS THE LAST MIDNIGHT WIRE CLASS I'M MAKING "STONES' OUT OF POLYCLAY AND LUMIERE PAINTS
<Kaye> cool what kind of stonews
<phil> what stamps are you using?
<Janet> I STAMPED THOSE WITH YOUR EMBLEMS
<Kaye> stones
<phil> that will be great
<Kriztina> ok i gotta go night all
<phil> night
<Janet> BLACK POLYCLAY, SMEARED WITH LUMIERE PAINT THEN STAMPED WITH PERMANENT ALCOHOL INK WITH ONE OF RED CASTLE'S EMBLEM STAMPS
<Kriztina> byeeee
<cak> Night Kriz
<Janet> AND THEN PUT ON A PENDANT SHAPED LUMP OF SCRAP CLAY
<phil> is it very large then
<Janet> ABOUT AS BIG AS THE EMBLEM STAMP :)
<Janet> AND I GOT IT SORT OF WHOPPYJAWED BUT THAT'S OKAY. THIS IS AN ARTY FARTY PENDANT
<phil> I was thinking about doing a set of the emblem stamps that are much smaller
<Janet> OH AND THEN PAINTED WITH THE LIQUID SCULPY FOR THE LAST LAYER
<Janet> OH THAT WOULD BE COOL, PHIL
<Janet> FOR EARRINGS :)
<phil> yes
<Janet> PHIL, AND ROSEM, TOO, THOSE SMALL STAMPS MAKE VERY COOL THINGS TO WIRE WRAP
<phil> but I can't get anything done because one of the fast systems at home is not working
<Janet> STAMP ON EITHER POLYCLAY OR ON CARDSTOCK, THEN PAINT WITH THE LIQUID SCULPY STUFF.
<Janet> MAKES A CAMEO LOOKING PENDANT
<Janet> VERY CHEAP. VERY COOL.
<Janet> BECAUSE THAT TLS MAKES A TRANSLUCENT SORT OF DOME ON IT
<Janet> NOT YET, CHRISTA. I CAN'T SEEM TO GET AHEAD THIS WEEK
<Janet> I DID THIS PAGE FOR TONIGHT ABOUT 15 MINUTES BEFORE TRIVIA STARTED
<JonaFromGe> Ok
<Janet> DID I ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE?
<cak> I think so---it's pretty straightforward
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