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<jhone> OK, I'M HERE

<stampinbea> yippeee

<jhone> I KNOW Y'ALL THOUGHT I WASN'T GONNA SHOW!

<jenmist> you are early

<stampinbea> i have tons of lumiere paints and still just dabble

<InkyWings> yeah, Lumieres are hot, and I want to know more about them

<InkyWings> lol

<jenmist> bear - send then to me, I will make stuff for you

<stampinbea> lol

<jhone> GOSH, IF I'M EARLY, HOW ABOUT I LEAVE AND COME BACK???

<InkyWings> Hi Kolle!

<Kolle> Hi!

<stampinbea> no, i am very patient and persistent. i will learn how to use them1

<InkyWings> no, no...

<InkyWings> stay Jhone

<jenmist> but I will send back with candy

<stampinbea> ooooooo candy

<jhone> IF Y'ALL WANT TO SEE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, GO TO THE URL ABOVE

<stampinbea> very tempting

<InkyWings> I've painted some shirts with lumiere, that's all I tryed with those for now

<jhone> HOWEVER, BE PREPARED ... IT LOADS very SLOWLY

<stampinbea> i don't see a url

<InkyWings> can't you post it here in the chat

<jhone> LOOK AT THE TITLE OF THE ROOM

<jhone> http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

<InkyWings> it's easier... <g>

<InkyWings> thanks...

<jhone> IT WILL TAKE SEVERAL MINUTES TO LOAD

<jhone> I WAS LAZY AND PUT IT ALL ON ONE PAGE ... SORRY

<Kolle> Oohh! I would love to learn that!

<jhone> I JUST NOW GOT THE LAST OF IT UPLOADED

<InkyWings> probably worth it??

<jhone> OF COURSE, IT'S WORTH THE WAIT! <g>

<jhone> HI TERARLA, HI ANNO

<anno> howdy, jhone!

<Kolle> I didn't know there was a calss now, has the schedule changed?

<brenda> hey jhone

<terarla> Hi, jhone

<jhone> it changed because i screwed up the schedule

<brenda> the schedule can change daily

<jhone> sorry

<brenda> be sure to keep checking it

<anno> unnecessarily, as it turned out!

<brenda> jhone dont worry about it

<jhone> YES, UNNECESSARILY

<jhone> Y'ALL SHOULD KNOW I CAN'T DO CALENDARS AND TYPE AT THE SAME TIME

<anno> that's ok..

<jhone> THERE ARE SOME NEW SAMPLES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LUMIERE GALLERY PAGE ...

<anno> now you can warm 'em all up for my class!

<jhone> SO YOU SHOULD GO LOOK AT http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

<anno> (if you make 'em hostile, I'll be waitin' for you in the hall after class)

<jhone> OR START, ANYWAY

<brenda> lol anno

<jhone> THE PAGE LOADS EXTREMELY SLOWLY

<InkyWings> wowsa... those things look realy nice Jhone!

<jhone> ANNO, WHEN HAVE I EVER MADE ANYONE HOSTILE IN HERE?

<jhone> THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE FAUX MOMI PAPERS

<jhone> BUT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THEM SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

<sparkle> ya gotta wait till they LOAD! ROFL

<jhone> TY, WINGS ... I'M GLAD YOU'RE IMPRESSED

brenda ears perk at the word paper

<keribou> I'm still loading

<jhone> THESE ARE PAPERS MADE FROM PLAIN OLD BROWN PAPER BAGS

<InkyWings> very!! Must try those things now when I got the paints at home!

<anno> I'm still workin' on the plate pieces.

<keribou> I bought lumieres from you in Sept. Jhone- now I need to do more with them

anno shakes the phone line..

<brenda> me too anno

<jhone> THE PLATE PIECES WERE A HUGE HIT AT GREENVILLE, ANNO

<brenda> hey ginni

<anno> i bet they were!

<Ginni> hey all, HI brenda

<jhone> DIANA AND SUE SOLD 180 JARS OF LUMIERES ON SATURDAY, WITH THE DEMO

<InkyWings> WOW!

<stampinbea> do you heat the pieces or just tear and use?

<jhone> BEAR, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE AFTER I DO THE PAPER

<stampinbea> ok

<anno> oh good! it went straight from plate pieces to faux momi A

<anno> so I can see one soon!

<terarla> Is this the lumiere class?

<stampinbea> the papers are beautiful

<jhone> YES, IT'S THE LUMIERE CLASS, TERARLA

<Kolle> Problem> It's not that easy getting hold of styroform plates in Norway. I had to ask at McDonalds for extra emty boxes!!

<anno> yes!

<brenda> yes terarla

<jhone> KOLLE, THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA

<anno> 180 jars? are there any left for us to buy?

<InkyWings> I just wondered too, where to find those plates... thanks Kolle! ;)

<brenda> hey fiddy

<jhone> I JUST PLACED AN ORDER FOR 150 MORE

<Ginni> hi fiddy

<InkyWings> Must be the same that they sell Kebab in??

<Kolle> Any take-out places has things in styroform

<Fiddy> jello

<jhone> HI FIDDY

<InkyWings> greta

<stampinbea> what about meat trays?

<InkyWings> great... eh

<jhone> MEAT TRAYS SHOULD WORK, TOO

[the logger got disconnected for a bit here]

<kristi> ty

<brenda> http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

stampinbear thinks> bear saves everything!

<jhone> WHILE IT IS WADDED, DUMP IT INTO A BOWL OF WATER, OR THE KITCHEN SINK FILLED WITH WATER

<jhone> WET THOROUGHLY AND REMOVE

<InkyWings> waahhhh.. water??

<jhone> DRAIN IT TILL IT ISN'T DRIPPING

<InkyWings> ok, you're the teacher... lol

<jhone> WATER -- YOU HAVE WATER OVER THERE, RIGHT? <g>

<InkyWings> nahhh, let me see...

<InkyWings> ;)

<anno> you have a problem with water, inky?

<InkyWings> think I can find it

<jhone> GOOD

<anno> so far we're usin' free paper bags and free (nearly) water..

<InkyWings> otherwise I'll take snow - just got that thing outside

<anno> this is a nice cheap class so far!

<kristi> paper bags??? sweet!

<jhone> WHEN THE PAPER ISN'T DRIPPING ANY MORE, LAY IT OUT ON A TABLE

<kristi> sorry I was late - I'm actually working today

<jhone> UMM, MAYBE YOU SHOULD COVER THE TABLE WITH WAX PAPER OR SOMETHING REASONABLY WATER/PAINT PROOF

<anno> I like freezer paper..

<jhone> NO PROBLEM, KRISTI

<brenda> ooooooh sounds like we are going to get messy

<brenda> fun

<kristi> can you do a quick recap of the steps I missed??? :-)

<jhone> NEXT COMES THE FUN PART ....

<anno> you can put it shiney side down, then you might get something useful outta the unshiney side once you're done!

<anno> smoosh bag, make flat. smoosh, flat. smoosh, flat. smoosh, drench, drain, flat.

<anno> thats it, so far.

<jhone> PICK OUT A COUPLE 2 OR 3 COLORS OF LUMIERES THAT YOU THINK LOOK GOOD TOGETHER

<kristi> kewl - ty anno

<Ginni> thanks anno

<jhone> AND DROP A COUPLE DROPS HERE AND THERE ...

<jhone> DON'T USE TOO MUCH PAINT OR TOO MANY COLORS OR YOU'LL GET MUD

<jhone> YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE, SO ERR TO THE STINGY SIDE

<InkyWings> drops... how do one make drops from that jar??

<Ginni> k

<jhone> BESIDES YOU DON'T WANNA WASTE IT

<anno> shiney sparkely mud!

<jhone> A SPOON, A SYRINGE

<InkyWings> oh, thanks

<jhone> STICK YOUR FINGER IN

<jhone> A FOAM BRUSH

<InkyWings> nahhhhhh ;)

<jhone> <G>

<brenda> oh fun

<jhone> AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR DROPS STRATEGICALLY PLACED, COMES THE MAGIC PART

<InkyWings> no need to paint the nails after that

<jhone> USING YOUR BRAYER, SMOOTH THE PAINT AROUND

<jhone> HAVE FUN

<Ginni> rofl cool

<InkyWings> yeah

<brenda> http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

<jhone> IF IT NEEDS MORE COLOR IN A SPOT, ADD SOME

<brenda> oh neato

<Kaye> hello sorry i'm late

<anno> I thought you were gonna tell us to smoosh it up again!

<jhone> IF IT STARTS TO DRY BEFORE YOU'RE READY, MIST IT WITH A LITTLE MORE WATER

<jhone> NOPE, EASIER AND PRETTIER TO BRAYER IT

<brenda> wow

<sparkle> acrylic or rubber brayer?

<brenda> easy

<jhone> DOESN'T MATTER, SPARKLE

<kristi> good q sparkle

<Kaye> what is the class url

<anno> acrylic is easier to wash..

<jhone> http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

<InkyWings> is it easy to clean the brayer?

<brenda> http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

<jhone> KAYE, WE HAVE CUT A HEAVY BROWN PAPER BAG INTO MANAGEABLE PIECES

<InkyWings> hmm, maybe I shall get one of those acrylic things for this kind of work

<brenda> http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

<jhone> WADDED THE PIECE UP, STRAIGHTENED IT OUT

<jhone> WADDED AGAIN, THEN DROWNED THE PAPER WITH WATER

<Ginni> this is so cool

<anno> the acrylic one is good for rolling out a small bit of polyclay if you're pasta-machine-impaired, too.

<jhone> THEN STRAIGHTENED IT OUT, PUT ON WATER PROOF SOMETHING FLAT

<Sue> ty

<InkyWings> no, no pasta-machine over here

<jhone> AND DROPPPED PAINT, THEN BRAYERED IT

<kristi> is 8.5 X 11 manageable or is smaller better?

<brenda> i am going to try this

<jhone> KRISTI, YOU COULD ACTUALLY CUT THE BOTTOM OF THE GROCERY SACK AWAY AND THEN CUT THE SIDES INTO 2-3 PIECES AND DO FINE

<InkyWings> Me too, probably tonight.... can't go to bed before I've tried. LOL

<jhone> I THINK WHAT DETERMINES WORKABLE FOR YOU IS WHERE YOU CAN PUT IT WHILE YOU DRIP AND THEN IT DRIES

<kristi> kewl - that means gift wrap for the smaller packages like CDs and stuff! :-)

<jhone> THIS PAPER IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE LOOKING ... AND SO EASY A KINDERGARTEN CLASS COULD DO IT

<InkyWings> what a great idea Kristi!

<anno> 8.5x11 will wrap a cd!

<jhone> REMEMBER TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF COLORS OR YOU'LL GET YUCKY MUDDY COLORED PAPER

<InkyWings> I shall paint small t-shirts for x-mas gifts, maybe I shall wrap them in that paper too... lol

kristi thinks> I hope the future inlaws aren't lurking

<anno> better one color than too many, huh?

<jhone> THE PAPER IS ALSO NICE AND STURDY ... MAKE GOOD BOOK COVERS

<Ginni> this is awsome

<kristi> yes!

<Ginni> my brain is working overtime!!!!

<InkyWings> if you paint with watercolor they say - never mix more then 3 colors - maybe that goes for this too?

<jhone> I THINK 2 OR 3 COLORS IS PROBABLY THE OPTIMUM

<kristi> could you tell us which colors you used in which samples, just so we have an idea??

<jhone> INKY, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD RULE OF THUMB

<Ginni> thanks jhone!!!!!!!!

<brenda> i just got to see the paper

<jhone> KRISTI, I DIDN' TMAKE THE SAMPLES

<Kaye> is one color at a time good

<brenda> gorgeous jhone

<InkyWings> I think so, and mostly it is right. ;)

<kristi> ok

<anno> 2 would be more interesting..

<anno> probably red and green is not a good choice of 2..

<jhone> SORRY I CAN'T GIVE YOU DEFINITE RECIPES

<jhone> ANNO, THERE IS NO RED LUMIERE

<InkyWings> sometimes when you mix two you get the third color for free...

<anno> russett is pretty darned close to red..

<jhone> IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF PAINT WHEN THE PAPER IS WET

<kristi> russet and olive would make brown...

<jhone> SO START WITH JUST A FEW DROPS

<InkyWings> ok, good to know

<jhone> YEAH, RUSSETT IS AS CLOSE TO RED AS THEY HAVE

<Ginni> I gotta get more!!!!!

<jhone> IF YOU ADD ONE OF THE REAL METAL COLORS, LIKE GOLD OR SILVER, TO 2 OF THE OTHER COLORS,

<kristi> I took care of that problem during Jhones social, lol!

<jhone> I THINK YOU'D GET SOME AWESOME COMBOS

<kristi> I think you're prolly right

<Ginni> rats I missed it kristi

<jhone> WHICH REMINDS ME, KRISTI, I WILL EMAIL YOU AFTER CLASS

<InkyWings> Heh, I need to order more colors too, those 10 I've got is too less to play with. ;)

<jhone> SORRY ... I'VE BEEN UNPACKING AND SLEEPING SINCE I GOT HOME FROM THE CONVENTION (NOT AT THE SAME TIME)

<anno> Etymology> Middle English, from Old French rousset, from rousset, adjective, russet, from rous russet, from Latin russus red; akin to Latin ruber red -- more at RED

<kristi> oh, no problem, Jhone - I'm sure you are swamped!

<jhone> INKY, IF YOU ORDER PAINT FROM ME, REMIND ME TO SEND YOU SOME STYRO PLATES!

<kristi> very interesting anno

<jhone> GINNI, I'M ABOUT TO REPEAT THE SPECIALS, SO YOU DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING

<InkyWings> ok, we'll see about that

<Ginni> hi magnolia

<kristi> I have to see if the DF will let me buy any styro - he's almost a tree hugger, lol!

<magnolia> hi

<Ginni> yipeeeeee!!!!!!!!!

<magnolia> sorry i'm late

<kristi> hi magnolia

<Sheryl> Hello

<magnolia> hi

<jhone> KRISTI, LOOK AT IT THIS WAY: YOU ARE RECYCLING STYROFOAM

<anno> http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

<InkyWings> at least you don't throw it away!!

<Ginni> hi sheryl

<kristi> that's what I say - I'm gonna try that approach on him - maybe wash up a take out box and try that

<kristi> first

<jhone> THAT IS TRUE RECYCLING, KRISTI

<Sue> I just got the page loaded-those samples are from a brown paper bag?? Awesome!

<Kaye> you can't get the styro pates over there inky?

<jhone> YOU' RE KEEPING IT OUT OF THE TRASH DUMP

<kristi> yep

<jhone> I APOLOGIZE FOR HOW SLOWLY THE PAGE LOADS, Y'ALL

<InkyWings> we just discuss that we could use those things food came in instead

<Kolle> They do not sell them in Norway, anyway

<anno> sorry I missed ya in the other room, sheryl, glad you found your way over here!

<InkyWings> not here either

<kristi> and we get those at most restaurants

<Kolle> We need the help of McDonalds!

<jhone> KOLLE, IF YOU ORDER SOMETHING FROM ME, AND REMIND ME, I CAN SEND YOU SOME STYROFOAM PLATES <g>

<Sheryl> I'm sorry I had to leave in such a hurry Anno. I realized I was in the wrong room. :>

<jhone> NO CHARGE FOR STYRO

<InkyWings> ;)

<Kolle> I'll remind you!!

<kristi> it's light!

<jhone> MY FRIENDS WHO DEMOED FOR ME AT THE SHOW THIS WEEKEND HAD NEVER DONE THE PLATE PINS, AND WERE MAKING GORGEOUS STUFF IN TEN MINUTES

<jhone> IT'S REALLY EASY

<InkyWings> are you doing something more with those papers after they are brayered??

<kristi> I think it would a great package decoration and a bonus present in one for the hoildays!

<jhone> LET THE PAPER DRY AND USE AS YOU WISH, INKY

<InkyWings> just drying??

<InkyWings> ok

<jhone> YEP

<InkyWings> good

<jhone> EASY, HUH?

<Sheryl> Brayering lumineres on brown kraft paper?

<InkyWings> that's an easy one!

jhone DOESN'T TEACH COMPLICATED

<Kolle> I like the idea of using them as bookcovers

<jhone> SHERYL, USE WET, WADDED UP BROWN GROCERY SACKS

kristi thinks> lumiered paper for gift wrap, top off with a lumiere/styro pin - gorgeous!

<jhone> THE HEAVY PAPER IS BETTER, BECAUSE IT WON'T TEAR AS EASILY

<Sheryl> and brayer on the wet paper?

InkyWings loves her new paint!! ;)

<jhone> KRISTI, THAT SOUNDS COOL!

<jhone> SHERYL, WE DROPPED A FEW DROPS OF COLOR ON TEH WET PAPER, THEN BRAYERED IT

<Sheryl> oh ok! Got it Jhone!

<jhone> ANYONE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ON THE PAPER?

<kristi> Oh, and Jhone - we are trying to Arts & Crafts our house and eventually want to buy copper switchplates and such, but until them, I'm painting the old ones with Lumieres Copper!

<Kolle> Inky, I think I need to visit you some day. I think I like your paint too :-)

<Sheryl> Can you use more than one color?

<jhone> OH, DEFINITELY

<jhone> THOSE PAPERS WERE DONE WITH THREE

<Sheryl> oh ok! I haven't seen yours yet

<jhone> BUT DON'T ASK WHICH ONES, BECAUSE I DIDN'T MAKE THEM

<InkyWings> heh, Kolle - you are welcome any day!

<jhone> http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

<jhone> BE FORWARNED: THE PAGE LOADS VERY SLOWLY

<jhone> VERY SLOWLY!!!!!!!

<jhone> MORE QUESTIONS????

<kristi> are you always brayering in one direction so as to not muddy colors or are you doing it in all different directions?

<Sue> but worth the wait!

<InkyWings> did you say slow?? <G>

<jhone> ALL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS

<jhone> NOTHING PRECISE

<stampinbea> how many lumiere colors are ther?

<InkyWings> can you maybe put a thin plastic sheet over the paint to protect your brayer?

<kristi> ok

<kristi> sounds pretty easy peasy

<jhone> YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU GET, TURN THE PAPER OVER AND TRY ON THE BACK SIDE

<jhone> I DON'T KNOW, INKY

<jhone> I WOULD JUST RINSE THE BRAYER OFF WHEN I WAS FINISHED

<jhone> SEEMS EASIER

<InkyWings> I'll try - I'm worried I can't clean my brayer... lol

<kristi> your brayer should clean well as long as you don't let it dry on there

<jhone> WELL, IF THE PAINT WON'T CLEAN OFF, THEN YOU HAVE A DECORATED BRAYER

<InkyWings> ok, I'll try both!

<anno> and... if you can't clean it off, then.. it's not damaged, just decorated!

<kristi> mine is stained black from permanent black ink pads anyway, lol@

<InkyWings> heh - the only one in town

<Sue> do you drop the paint scattered all over or all in the same gegneral area?

<jhone> IT CLEANS OFF MY STAMPS, AS LONG AS YOU CLEAN BEFORE IT DRIES

<Kaye> the brayer is clean off just fine

<jhone> SCATTERED AROUND

<Sue> ty

<keribou> I bought Lumieres because Jhone hooked me on those darn styro pins- now I like the paper better!

<InkyWings> ROFL Keribou

<jhone> OH, BUT THE PINS WERE SUCH A HIT AT THE CONVENTION THIS WEEKEND

<keribou> I ma major paper person

<jhone> PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY TRYING TO BUY THE DARN THINGS!!!!!!!

<stampinbea> how many colors of the lumieres are there?

<Kaye> they are too cool

<Ginni> how are the pins made? is that on the site

<keribou> I still like the pins Jhone- I am just a paper and background person

<jhone> I CARRY 12 OF THE 16 LUMIERES

<InkyWings> OK, tell us how the pins are made!!

<stampinbea> thx

<kristi> which four don't you have??

<InkyWings> pliiiiis

<jhone> THE ONES I DON'T CARRY ARE SUPER SPARKLE AND THREE INTERFERENCE COLORS

<Sheryl> I got one of your pins made from the tyvek envies Jhone. Really pretty!

<Kolle> Hi Betne!

<Kolle> Bente

<kristi> oic

<Bente> Hi everyone..

<jhone> SUPER SPARKLE IS A DUD, AND I DON'T CARE FOR THE INTERFERENCE ONES

<Kaye> hey

<InkyWings> Hi Bente!

<jhone> OK ... TIME TO DO THE PINS AGAIN?

<Sue> please do

<stampinbea> please

<InkyWings> why is super sparkle a dud??

<Sheryl> yes!

<magnolia> since i missed the beginning, do you use the colors right out of the jar

<jhone> CAUSE THE SUPERSPARKLE IS SO SHEER THAT IT JUST ADDS A LITTLE LUMINESSENCE

<jhone> IT ISN'T A COLOR ON ITS OWN

<jhone> MAGNOLIA, RIGHT OUT OF THE JAR

<Kolle> http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

<magnolia> k

<InkyWings> isn't it the meaning to mix it with other colors?

<Bente> You can use it with the opaque, couldn't you

<InkyWings> like the Neopaques?

<jhone> I THINK SO, INKY, BUT THE COLORS ARE SO PRETTY THEY DON'T NEED SUPER SPARKLE

<jhone> I DON'T CARRY THE NEOPAQUES

<InkyWings> ok, just wanted to know

<InkyWings> ok, that makes sence... I think lol

<jhone> I ONLY BOUGHT THE ONES i LIKE, SO IF THEY DON'T SELL, AT LEAST I LIKE WHAT I AM STUCK WITH <g>

<Ginni> merry christmas to me!!!lol

<InkyWings> lol, that's good

<jhone> OK, TIME FOR THE PINS --

<InkyWings> sorry to inerupt

<jhone> THAT'S OK

<InkyWings> interupt...

keribou says Jhone STUCK with Lumieres- hahaha

<jhone> TAKE ONE STYROFOAM PLATE

<jhone> I HAVE FOUND THAT THE LUMIERES ARE PRETTIER IF YOU PAINT THE PLATE BLACK FIRST, BUT THIS IS NOT NECESSARY

<Ginni> k

<jhone> I USED PLAIN OLD CHEAP MICHAEL'S ACRYLIC

<jhone> HOWEVER::::

<InkyWings> Oh, I just thought of using a black plate... (those for food)

<kristi> I totally understand Jhone - just curious - my local shop carries them and I have all your colors now

<Kaye> Inky, Do you know if you can get Future Floor Finish in Norway?

<jhone> DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS BY USING A SPRAY PAINT

<Sue> hi Barb

<kristi> are you speaking from experience

<Sheryl> k

<kamperstam> Hi Sue

<jhone> SPRAY PAINT EATS THE STYROFOAM INTO AN UGLY LITTLE BLAH THING

<InkyWings> No idea... btw, I'm in Sweden - Kolle is in Norway... but it's nearly the same

<jhone> YES, FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE

<Kolle> You can't. I asked at Maxbo, they thought I was nuts!

<InkyWings> lol

<kristi> yuck!

<Kaye> sorry

<Kaye> confused as usual

<kristi> Kolle did you ask about acrylic floor finish?? that's the generic term for it

<InkyWings> heh, ok, Kolle, I won't ask either....

<jhone> AFTER THE PLATE IS BLACK, OR YOU DECIDE TO USE A WHITE ONE ... SPONGE OR BRUSH OR FINGER PAINT THE LUMIERES ON

<Kolle> Yes I did. They thougt I meant paint or bonevoks

<Ginni> ???? can u use a meat tray?

<Sheryl> randomly?

<jhone> THE MORE COLORS YOU USE, THE BUSIER YOUR END RESULT WILL BE - I PREFER 2 OR THREE COLORS

<jhone> I THINK YOU CAN USE A MEAT TRAY

<Ginni> ty

<jhone> ALTHOUGH IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE LONGER TO SHRINK, SINCE IT'S THICKER

<InkyWings> we got meat trays that are black from the beginning

<kristi> oh yeah!

<jhone> RANDOMLY PAINT THE COLORS ON ... SEE THE SAMPLE PLATE AT http://www.jhone.com/lumgallery.html

<InkyWings> something good over here

<kristi> and other colors two I have seen - too bad we don't buy meat, lol!

<jhone> IF YOU WANT TO ADD SOME EMBOSSING POWDER OR GLITTER WHILE THE PAINT IS WET, YOU CAN

<InkyWings> oh, cool!

<jhone> I FOUND THAT EP WITH SOME GLITTER IN IT WAS PRETTY COOL

<Kolle> Det hender at tomater kommer pŒ slike brett, Kristi

<jhone> AFTER THE PAINT IS DRY

<InkyWings> OH, I'm so glad I joined this class Jhone!

<anno> finally.. a use for that glittery EP!

<jhone> THIS IS THE HARD PART

<kristi> what Kolle?? LOL@

<jhone> THIS IS THE REALLY COMPLICATED PART, Y'ALL

<jhone> YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION

<Sheryl> ut oh lol

<InkyWings> ok

kristi stares intently at the screen

<Kaye> ok

<jhone> YOU NOW TAKE THAT PLATE THAT YOU HAVE PAINTED AND GLITTERED OR EP'D

<Kolle> :-)

<jhone> AND YOU TEAR IT INTO CHUNKS

<jhone> <g>

<InkyWings> like those in the picture

<InkyWings> =

<InkyWings> ?

<jhone> IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT SHAPE

<cak> does it matter how big the chuncks are jhone?

<anno> so this is a good activity for high stress days..

<jhone> THE BIGGER THE CHUNK, THE LARGER YOUR PIN WILL BE

<Kaye> great idea anno

<InkyWings> makes sense... lol

<jhone> THE SMALLER THE CHUNK, THE MORE LIKELY YOU'LL HAVE A BEAD RATHER THAN A PIN

<kristi> I think so anno - I'm gonna have to insist we go out to eat and get styro take out boxes and I must paint tonight, lol!

<jhone> WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR CHUNKS

<jhone> YOU TURN ONE PAINT SIDE DOWN (WE ONLY PAINT ON ONE SIDE)

<jhone> START HEATING THE CHUNK USING YOUR HEAT GUN

InkyWings thinks she need to print this out to remember... lol

<Kolle> The fumes - are they toxic?

<jhone> HEAT AROUND THE BACK SIDE OF THE EDGES FIRST - THIS USUALLY CAUSES THE EDGES TO CURL TOWARD YOU

<jhone> WHICH WILL KEEP THE THE WHITE EDGES FROM SHOWING ON THE FRONT

<jhone> YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T NOTICE ANY FUMES

<jhone> SOMEONE ELSE SAID THEY NOTICED BAD ONES, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT BRAND OF PLATE OR SOMETHING

<Ginni> --its a plastic so I would recc ventaltion

<anno> can you breathe through your nose, jhone?

<jhone> YES, USUALLY, ANNO

<kristi> we used to shrink decorated styrofoam cups in our oven to make little hats when I was small - it didn't smell

<anno> just checking!

<InkyWings> is our nose still there???

<InkyWings> lol

<jhone> <g>

<cak> burning styrofoam is *not* good for you---be sure you have good ventilation

<jhone> WONDER IF THE STYRO MELTING IS WHY MY GRAY HAIR IS SHOWING SO BADLY ALREADY

InkyWings opens the window

<Ginni> very important

<jhone> AFTER YOU GET THE EDGES SHRUNKEN, TURN THE PIECE OVER

<jhone> Oh!

kristi thinks> I'm gonna have to get me space heater so I can open the window in the studio

<jhone> USE A SKEWER OR LONG TWEEZERS

<jhone> OR HEMOSTATS TO KEEP THE CHUNKS FROM BLOWING OFF THE TABLE WHILE HEATING

<kristi> you're fav - hemostats, right?

<kristi> lol! you beat me to it

<jhone> AND DO not ATTEMPT TO TURN IT OVER WITH BARE FINGERS

<sparkle> or acrylic nails?

<Kolle> Studio!!! I'm envious

<jhone> BARE FINGERS WILL NOT BE BARE LONG - THEY WILL HAVE STICKY STYROFOAM STUCK ON THEM

<Ginni> ouch

<InkyWings> oach

<jhone> DIDN'T HURT MY ACRYLIC NAILS

<kristi> brand new - Kolle - still full of unpacked boxes - from July, lol!

<jhone> DIDN'T EVEN STICK

<kristi> ooo, good excuse to go get a manicure, lol!

<jhone> ACTUALLY, THE PIECES DIDN'T REALLY GET THAT HOT, BUT THEY WERE HOT ENOUGH TO BURN RIGHT AT FIRST

<jhone> HEAT UNTIL YOU LIKE THE SHAPE AND TEXTURE OF THE PIECE

<jhone> IF YOU DON'T STOP, THOUGH, YOU WILL WIND UP WITH AN UGLY LITTLE TURD

<Bente> Will they stop shrinking at one point, or just keep on going??

<jhone> SO STOP BEFORE IT LOOKS LIKE A TURD, OK?

<MomCat> What were they sitting on while you were heating them?

<Kolle> Ok! LOL

<Ginni> ???? can you stamp on them and leave it till its cool?

<jhone> I WAS WORKING ON SCRAP PAPER ON A GLASS TOP TABLE

<jhone> GINNI, SOMEONE WHO IS MORE COORDINATED THAN I AM PROBABLY COULD STAMP INTO THEM

<jhone> I NEVER MANAGED TO DO IT

<InkyWings> but you need to hold them with something right?

<Ginni> ty

<InkyWings> when you shrink them I mean

<cak> (that leaves me out too)

<kristi> I would imagine you have to be right quick as it wouldn't hold the heat very long

<jhone> I WAS JUST HOLDING IT DOWN SO IT WOULDN'T BLOW AWAY FROM THE AIR OF THE HEAT GUN

<Ginni> coordination is not my good suite

<InkyWings> ok

<jhone> WELL, TRY IT, GINNI

<jhone> I TRIED

<kristi> me neither GInni, lol!

<jhone> I STAMPED THE TABLE TOP

<kristi> lol!

<jhone> DROPPED THE STAMP ON MY SHOE

<jhone> AND ONE TIME, I FUMBLED AROUND UNTIL THE STYRO WAS TOO COOL TO AFFECT IT

<Ginni> jhone, you must have been sitting inthe corner watching me!!!lol

<Kolle> At least you have a nice shoe and table top! :-)

<jhone> MAYBE

<cak> hmmm, I wonder if you could hold the styrofoam down with a stamp and shrink it around the die?

<jhone> INTERESTING THOUGHT, CAK

<jhone> TRY IT AND LET ME KNOW <g>

<Ginni> me too cak

<Ginni> I canuse the stamps I dont like

<jhone> I REALLY DID WANT TO STAMP INTO THE STYRO ... BUT i JUST COULDN'T SEEM TO MANAGE IT

<cak> lol, don't hold your breath, but I'll try it as soon as I can

<Kolle> Must be an unmounted then?What about the glue?

<jhone> MAYBE SOMEONE WITH MORE COORDINATION OR LUCK CAN DO IT

<jhone> THESE THINGS ARE SO MUCH FUN, THOUGH

<keribou> Would you need to have embossing fluid or something on the stamp to keep it from sticking to the styro

<Ginni> somebody try and let us know!!

<jhone> YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GONNA GET

<Ginni> Im going to convention this weekend and these would be great pins to trade

<kristi> yeah - quick and pretty inexpensive

<jhone> I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WOULD NEED ANTHING ON THE STAMP

<jhone> GINNI, THAT'S WHAT I USED FOR TRADES LAST WEEKEND

<jhone> PEOPLE WERE CRAZY ABOUT THEM

<Ginni> ?????? does the ep heat up ok from the back?

<Ginni> cool jhone!!!!!

<jhone> GINNI, AFTER YOU DO THE EDGES, YOU TURN THE PIECE OVER AND FINISH HEATING FROM THE FRONT

<Ginni> ahhhh, ok got it ty

<jhone> THE FUN PART OF DOING THE PINS IS DECORATING WITH BEADS OR WIRE

<Sabine> hi everyone

<Ginni> hi

<jhone> OR ROXS OR GLITTER

<jhone> OR LITTLE HOLELESS BEADS

<Ginni> ???? what type of glue?

<jhone> YOU CAN PUNCH A HOLE AND DANGLE STUFF

<jhone> GLUE??

<kristi> can you make holes afterwards, or does it get kind of hard?

<Ginni> to put beads on?

<jhone> MY FAVORITE> 3D CRYSTAL LAQUER

<kristi> don't use E6000 on them, lol!

<jhone> USE AN AWL TO POKE A HOLE

<anno> what did you use to hold those dangly beads on?

<Kolle> Or diamond glaze?

<Ginni> good point kristi ty

<jhone> YEAH, NO E600 - IT WOULD EAT THE STYRO

<Kaye> you could use suze glue and her beads

<jhone> DIAMOND GLAZE IS THE SAME AS CRYSTAL LACQUER, EXCEPT IT SMELLS BAD

<Ginni> thats good to know

<jhone> HEY, A COUPLE OF MY PINS WERE TRIMMED WITH CAT HAIR ... EVEN THOSE LOOKED GOOD

<kristi> lol!

<Ginni> rofl, cool here doggy!! come let me brush you lol

<Kaye> everything i have is trimmed with cat hair

<Sue> could you paint both sides of the chunk & make a Christmas ornament?

<jhone> SUE, YOU COULD

<Ginni> oh good idea sue

<jhone> BUT IT WOULDN'T SHRINK THE SAME WAY

<Ginni> I think Ill make pins for our yearly auction

<jhone> THE STYRO SHRINKS A LOT MORE THAN THE PAINT

<jhone> SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD MAKE TWO AND STICK THEM TOGETHER BACK TO BACK

<kristi> you might want to touch up the edges after shrinking - if you do the back

<Ginni> ??? is there about 50% shrinkage?

<jhone> OR BACK THEM WITH SOMETHING ELSE

<jhone> GINNI, IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG YOU SHRINK

<Sue> good idea-thanks

<jhone> YOU CAN SHRINK DOWN TO ABOUT 25%

<Ginni> ok ty

<jhone> BUT MOST OF THE ONES i DID, I STOPPED AT ABOUT 50-60%

<jhone> THE FARTHER DOWN YOU SHRINK, THE HARDER AND MORE CRINKLED

kristi makes mental note

<Ginni> ok ty I needed some type of guideline

<jhone> AND LESS COLORFUL

<Sheryl> Anything less than 25% becomes a "turd"(Jhone's technical term)?

<jhone> OUT OF ONE STYRO PLATE THAT IS 9" ACROSS, I GOT ABOUT 7-8 PIECES

<Ginni> great!! ty

<jhone> VERY TECHNICAL TERM, SHERYL!

<Sheryl> lol

<Ginni> wb

<Ginni> jhone you have a special on your site? I must purchase some!!!lol

<jhone> BUT YOU KNOW, IT REALLY GETS KINDA UGLY SHRUNKEN DOWN THAT FAR - OR AT LEAST THE ONES I DID, WERE UGLY

<stampinbea> thanks so much Jhone. These are great ideas

<Ginni> they certainly are!!!!

<jhone> SPECIAL GOOD THROUGH tHURSDAY MORNING IS ANY THREE FOR $13.50

<jhone> IF YOU ORDER, TELL ME THE SPECIAL

<Ginni> visa accepted?

<jhone> I LOVE VISA

<stampinbea> is there a color chart on your site?

<Kolle> Ehh. Morning? It's just a few hours away...

<Sheryl> I'm so glad I made it to your class Jhone. I'll make up the work hour some other time. LOL

<jhone> ME TOO, SHERYL

<jhone> THANK YOU FOR COMING

<Janet> sheryl is that you??

<InkyWings> This was sooo cool Jhone!

<Sheryl> Oh, but I have to stay for Anno's class too. (I'm gonna get fired for sure)

jhone IS ALWAYS AFRAID NO ONE WILL COME TO HER CLASSES OR SOCIALS

<Ginni> jhone thanks so much!!!! HI Janet!!!

<Sue> thanks for the class-I'm glad I remembered it-was well worth it!

<InkyWings> I'M glad I planned to do the stable later. lol

<Kaye> never

<Sheryl> No Janet, Its the other Sheryl LOLOL

<kristi> jhone - your classes and socials are always great!

<Janet> Hi!!

<jhone> Y'ALL REMEMBER ANNO IS NEXT

<InkyWings> Great class Jhone

<Kolle> Anno - what's your class about?

<Janet> And Ginni! how are you feeling?

<Ginni> oh cool

<jhone> SHE SAID I HAVE TO WARM Y'ALL UP FOR HER

<jhone> AND SHE HAS GORGEOUS SAMPLES

<Ginni> janet doing good thank you!!

<Bente> Great class Jhone..

<magnolia> thanks jhone

<jhone> ALTHOUGH SHE DIDN'T USE ANY JUST JHONE STAMPS

<jhone> <G>

<Sheryl> Janet, its Sheryl Powell not Sheryl Porter. LOL

<jhone> Y'ALL ARE WELCOME ... TY FOR MAKING IT SO MUCH FUN

<Janet> Hi Sheryl Powell! I haven't seen you in a while either!

<anno> here I am..

<terarla> Thanks jhone

<Ginni> anno, what is your class on?

<anno> rofl.

<anno> fat marvies!

<Sheryl> Nope, not since the last convention. :(

<Ginni> oh good!!!!!!

<jhone> ok, i'm not teaching any more

<Kaye> jhone i can't wait to try all the great things you taught us

<jhone> now I will stay and heckle anno

<jhone> <G>

<InkyWings> Sorry Anno, have to rush to the horses now, I'll be back for trickanno Treat... lol

<jhone> ty, kaye

<jhone> have fun

<Ginni> jhone Thanks!!!!!!

<InkyWings> bye all!!

<anno> see ya, inky

<InkyWings> thanks Jhone

<cak> jhone thanks for the class!

<Bente> bye Lisa..

<jhone> bye inky

<Sheryl> I can't wait to try them too! Since I haven't been able to do any work because of you all, I guess I'll leave early and play!

<Ginni> same room anno?

<anno> yep!

<Ginni> great!!!!

<jhone> anno's class is right here - easy for everyone, right?

<cak> lol--we *are* a bad influence, aren't we?

<anno> just waiting for the halls to clear out..

<Sue> have to get some work done-see you at the trickanno class, though

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