<Janet> it is now officially All Saints Day on the east coast :)

<^raVen^> Happy All Saints Day!!!!!!!!

<Janet> and I wanted to do this first thing, this is my favorite of the church holidays (beyond the biggies of course)

<Legs> is that like the first day of Dia de los Muertos?

<MaggieB> janet these are wonderful!!!

<Debi-Ellen> which one is the PAPERCLAY one?

<C_Lion> the day of the dead

<Lory> mmm should i be here with a topic of saints

<Legs> where is the url, mommy?

<RubberRabb> Happy beginning of the blue moon month

<Janet> and MY samples are Christian icons, but the point of making your own icons is for them to reflect your own heart

<Debi-Ellen> http://www.dm.net/~janet/icons

<Kaye> i am loading so slow tonight

<Legs> ty

<Janet> http://www.dm.net/~janet/icons/

<^raVen^> heya Jean!

<Legs> get off, kaye and reconnect..that always helps me a LOT

<Kaye> not really

<Janet> okay. I GUESS I SHOULD PUT ON THE CAPS NOW

<JonaFromGe> Thats great

<crowfAFK> hey there raven, can't stay, h using computer, wahh, but am loggin for later, see ya all

<Kaye> i have old phone lines

<RubberRabb> yes, indeed Janet--great icons

<cak> (we love it when you get authoritative)

<Kaye> too far from dallas

<C_Lion> crow, I need crow feathers

<^raVen^> I love these icons..... i need to carve some

<JonaFromGe> Janet can you explain Saintsday for me please

<Janet> MY SAMPLES ARE AT http://www.dm.net/~janet/icons/ BUT I THINK WHILE I LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO ADMIRE MY SAMPLES, THE REAL VALUE HERE IS EXPLORING WHAT MIGHT BE AN ICON OR WORTHY OF A SHRINE TO YOU AND THEN WAYS TO MAKE THAT A REALITY

<Janet> SURE, JONA.

<RubberRabb> I did a shrine this summer

<Libster> WOW! This is gonna be GREAT!

<Janet> ON NOVEMBER 1, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO MY CHURCH'S TRADITION, WE HONOR ALL THE SAINTS OF GOD

<RubberRabb> and shipped it away--it was wonderful to get rid of it

<Debbie> beautiful Janet, expecially the top one

<Janet> AND IN MY CHURCH'S TRADITION, ANY BELIEVER IS NUMBERED AMONG THE SAINTS OF GOD

<^raVen^> oh! is the madonna a photo?

<RubberRabb> Janet, the stuff I've read is that All Saint's Day is also a day to recognize all the saints who don't have their own proper feast day

<Janet> ONE OF MY BEST ICONS REFLECTED MY PERSONAL BELIEF AND PUT MY GRANDMOTHER'S FACE IN AN ICON

<Janet> SO!

<Legs> do all Christians have All Saint's day or just Catholics?

<Janet> LET'S TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE ICONS/SHRINES FOR US PERSONALLY, AND SOME POTENTIAL MATERIALS FOR THEM

<Kaye> mostly catholics

<RubberRabb> Janet, did you get my message--all saint's day is a day to recognize any saint that doesn't have a registered feast day

<Janet> (LIB, INITIALLY ME TOO)

<RubberRabb> Episcopalians have saints too

<Janet> I DIDN'T SEE THAT, RR, BUT YES, THAT'S WHAT IT IS IN MY CHURCH'S TRADITION

<Legs> well, they s just fake catholics

<Kaye> ok rr

<^raVen^> does st. francis have a feast day?

<RubberRabb> LOL

<Legs> ok, almost Catholics

<Janet> SOME SAINTS HAVE SPECIAL DAYS OTHER DAYS, THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY!

<MomCat> St. Francis of Assissi is my favorite saing

<MaggieB> halloween is just hallowed eve of saint feast day actually

<Legs> might as well be

<Lory> and i was worried bout me being here,lol

<Janet> =I= AM MY FAVORITE SAINT. :)

<Kaye> lea just trying to pick a fight

<Kaye> lol

<Lory> mine too janet

<RubberRabb> I like St. Agatha--patroness saint of breast cancer survivors

<Libster> calm down chilluns!

<Janet> BUT POINT OF THIS CLASS IS FOR EACH OF US TO IDENTIFY WHAT WOULD BE ICON-WORTHY TO US

<Lory> thats cool RR

<Janet> AND THEN HOW WE MIGHT MAKE IT.

<Legs> who is the saint of papercrafts?

<Janet> OH!

<RubberRabb> there IS a saint of paper

<MaggieB> who would lea up?lol

<Legs> cool

<Janet> BEFORE WE LOSE EVERYBODY LET ME GIVE AWAY THE PRIZES i HAVE TO GIVE, OKAY?

<RubberRabb> but I can't remember..

<Libster> OK- like my husband?

<Lory> nixon

<^raVen^> there is a patron saint of *everything*

<Janet> WHILE YOU ALL ARE THINKING OF WHAT YOU MIGHT ICON-FY

<JonaFromGe> great

<Legs> are we losing everybody?

<^raVen^> it's very interesting

<RubberRabb> sure Janet

<Janet> ACTUALLY WE'RE NOT LOSING ANYBODY BUT I WANTED TO GIVE THE PRIZES

<Kaye> i want some

<MaggieB> i have a voodoo quilt with icons all over it

<Libster> ROFL!

<Legs> before you forgot

<^raVen^> i'm not catholic but am fascinted by all the catholic 'stuffs"

<Janet> THE OTHER NIGHT I FORGOT TO GIVE MY PRIZES, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN THIS TIME<G>

<Legs> right

<RubberRabb> I did a shrine this summer to sufferers of Lymphedema--did an arm wrapped just like my arm

<Libster> LOL!

<Kaye> just send those to me

<MaggieB> oh janet!

<C_Lion> a shrine to Bastet patron saint of cats

<Lory> got a scan of it RR

<RubberRabb> by the time I was done it gave me the heebeejeebies and Drake wouldn't come into the room

<^raVen^> cool RR

<Lory> sounds cool

<Legs> send all scary junk like that to me, Rabbit

<Lory> dont go scaring drake dog

<Janet> THE TOP EXAMPLE IS A STAMP FROM STAMP CAMP, WHO DIDN'T TAKE ACONVENTION BOOTH THIS TIME (SHE'S OUT OF TOWN, IF YOU GO TO A LIVE CONVENTION YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE HER) BUT SHE IS IN THE VENDOR MALL TO SHOP AT ALL YEAR ROUND...

<RubberRabb> so I shipped it off to Brainwaves and some poor woman got an arm

<Legs> I groove on it...the weirder the better

<RubberRabb> Stamp Camp has beautiful stamps

<Legs> what is brainwaves?

<Janet> AND SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO WIN THAT TOP STAMP?

<Lory> no comment

<Legs> ys!!!!

<Legs> yes!!

<MaggieB> sure!

<Lory> sister mary rubber

<JonaFromGe> yes

<Janet> THE ONE DONE IN GOLD LEAF?

<Libster> sure!

<RubberRabb> yes

<Janet> LOL

<RubberRabb> yes

<Legs> I love it

<RubberRabb> please

<Janet> OKAY!

<^raVen^> yea!

<Janet> FIRST PERSON TO TELL ME WHO IS THE PATRON SAINT OF ELECTIONS WINS IT!

<Libster> I win!

<cak> (I do too)

<Legs> Nixon

<Lory> nixon

<RubberRabb> nixon

<MaggieB> lol

<JonaFromGe> Mary

<Janet> (NICE TRY BUT NOT NIXON)

<RubberRabb> James

<MomCat> Thomas

<Libster> Theresa

<indigojone> st francis

<Lory> actually jeb bush

<JonaFromGe> what is election?

<glitrbug> floridita

<CRAZYCLAUD> BUSH

<^raVen^> francis

<Legs> erections or elections????

<Libster> Paul

<Legs> Clinton!

<MaggieB> lea!

<C_Lion> matthew

<indigojone> peter

<JonaFromGe> James John

<Debbie> lea!!

<cak> (whose the saint of lost causes?)

<CRAZYCLAUD> PETER

<Libster> Matthew

<glitrbug> St Michael

<Janet> SPECIFICALLY THIS IS A BISHOP WHO HAD HIS APPOINTMENT DISPUTED.

<Kriztina> chad

<MomCat> jude

<glitrbug> st Jude

<C_Lion> peter

<Libster> TuTu

<indigojone> john

<Janet> AND HIS REACTION TO THAT GOT HIM SAINTHOOD

<^raVen^> jason

<Legs> haha, Lib

<Janet> AND KRIZTINA IS RIGHT!

<JonaFromGe> John paul

<RubberRabb> St Thomas of Aquinas

<MomCat> Nicholas

<Janet> FOR REAL. THIS IS ST. CHAD

<RubberRabb> cool

<Legs> saint Chad?

<MaggieB> chad?

<cak> LOL!

<Janet> SAINT CHAD

<C_Lion> rofl

<indigojone> ??

<^raVen^> that's right.... NOW i remember

<Libster> only bishop I know is TuTu!

<glitrbug> No way

<MaggieB> chad isnt even a catholic name!

<Legs> was he like a preppy saint?

<Janet> I KID YOU NOT

<Lory> chad just is not a saintly name

<RubberRabb> What a hoot

<glitrbug> that is so funny

<Legs> it sounds either preppy or way gay

<enchy> chad?

<RubberRabb> Chad is so a saint

<Legs> the gay, preppy saint

<MaggieB> no way

<Janet> KRIZTINA, WRITE MARYRUBBER@AOL.COM AND CLAIM THAT PRIZE!

<Kaye> lol

<enchy> what was his reaction?

<CRAZYCLAUD> YOUR URL AGAIN IS

<RubberRabb> St. Chad

<cak> (Christa an election is where people vote to select leaders/representatives)

<Libster> Chad is in Florida, ain't he??

<Kriztina> excellent! ty

<JonaFromGe> Janet I still need you addy to send you the cakes

<Debbie> can you be a gay saint?

<enchy> chad?

<Janet> LOOK IT UP IN THE SAINT DATABASE, MAGGIE

<Lory> st chad keeper of the plad

<MaggieB> my favorite is the one on the right janet where is the image from?

<Lory> plaid

<MaggieB> saint database???

<Janet> DEBBIE, IN MY BELIEF SYSTEM YOU CAN.

<enchy> janet are you making this up?

<RubberRabb> what is the saint database, Janet

<Libster> sure she is

<Janet> THE REST OF THE IMAGES ARE FROM THE STAMPSMITH.

<Legs> they said there was a saint for *everything*

<Janet> HAVE YOU ALL GONE TO HER CONVENTION BOOTH?

<Lory> no i dont think janet would play around with saints

<RubberRabb> yes

enchy thinks janet likes to tease us heathens with her stories

<Debbie> guess so

<Lory> ok that sounded bad

<glitrbug> yes

<Libster> yes, the other day

<Kriztina> do you just call it the icon stamp or saint stamp? or icon mosaic stamp?

<MaggieB> stampsmith has these?

<^raVen^> that photo-like face is Stampsmith?!

<Janet> SHE HAS A WHOLE PLATE OF HOLY CARD STAMPS

<MaggieB> cool

<Legs> is there like a saint for Witches?

<Libster> don't ask me to remember anything

<Janet> THE OTHER ONES ARE ALL STAMPSMITH STAMPS

<Janet> THE PLATE IS CALLED BLESSED ARE

<MaggieB> i dont remember seein the one on the right

<RubberRabb> St. Joan of Arc, who was burned as a witch

<glitrbug> Yes, I need that one

<Lory> yeah lea, sabrina

<C_Lion> for talking to the Virgin

<Legs> sabrina...........Hoot! Hoot!

<glitrbug> It's hard to find one of those

<MaggieB> janet are you catholic?

<Lory> i know that answer

<Legs> is there a saint for cats especially or just the animal saint guy?

<RubberRabb> Janet, do you have the url for the saint database?

<Janet> AND THE FIRST PERSON TO TELL ME WHAT HOLIDAY WE JUST FINISHED CELEBRATING (OR SOME FOLKS JUST FINISHED CELEBRATING) 17 MINUTES AGO... THIS IS IN THE PAGAN TRADITION. WHICH HOLIDAY?

<Legs> Francis or whatever

<MaggieB> hallowed eve

<Lory> samhain

<Libster> sam hain

<Janet> I CAN FIND IT, ASK ME TOMORROW

<Legs> Samhain

<RubberRabb> Samhain

<glitrbug> holloween

<Janet> LORY!

<cak> samhain

<^raVen^> samhain

<Janet> THAT WAS QUICK!

<Debbie> hallows eve

<glitrbug> samain

<RubberRabb> LOL we had that question last night Janet

<Janet> LOL

<^raVen^> wow... and i THOUGHT i was typing fast!

<Janet> OKAY!

<Legs> bur how do you PRONOUNCE it?

<cak> (Is there a demon database--I'm looking for the name of the demon of Sloth based on hopelessness)

<Lory> i still have on my miss witch t shirt

<Janet> LOL CAK

<RubberRabb> She en

<Libster> sam hang

<Lory> cak...the name is lory

<Janet> THAT'S ME. SLOTH AS A WAY OF LIFE :)

<cak> No! There really was one! Middle Ages

<glitrbug> I have me witches hat

<Legs> I think its like sow-en

<Legs> accent on the sow

<Lory> i know

<RubberRabb> that's right Legs

<Janet> SO!

<Libster> In Ky we say sam hang

<RubberRabb> I knew the end was en

<RubberRabb> sow-en

<Janet> LET'S TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE MATERIALS FOR SHRINES AND ICONS, SHALL WE?

<RubberRabb> cigar boxes

<cak> and can we make an anti-icon?

<Libster> I wanna do a shine fr my DH and my Maine Coon cat

<RubberRabb> already been done cak

<Libster> 2 different shrines

<Janet> I PERSONALLY HAVE USED BOARDS (FOR HANGING UP PLAQUES) AND POLYMER CLAY AND PAPER (OF COURSE) AND ALTOID TINS AND CIGAR BOXES

<Legs> no saints were killed in the making of this icon

<^raVen^> I found WONDERFUL little wood cabinets at the dollar store in the christmas stuff

<Janet> ONE OF MY BEST ONES WAS A SHRINE TO THE LAW, IT WAS FOR MY DAUGHTER

<cak> (and that means we shouldn't do it again?)

<RubberRabb> that guy who put crap on pictures of the virgin mary

<Janet> LOL

<RubberRabb> LOL

<Lory> i hear that sliding lid cigar boxes are good

<Legs> sliding lid wine boxes??

<Janet> SLIDING LID CIGAR BOXES ARE EXCELLENT FOR THIS

<RubberRabb> I have one of those from a certain mom that even has a window

<Kaye> where is best place to get cigar boxes

<Lory> did you have a get out of jail free card in it janet

<Janet> (IN FACT, I MADE A SHRINE WITH ONE AND AN ICON WITH THE LID OF IT AS A SEPARATE PIECE)

<Legs> cigar store

<^raVen^> I've made some beautiful tin nichos out of old solvent cans

<Kriztina> lots of times perfume gift sets sold this time of year come in really nice usable boxes

<Janet> I DO HAVE A GET OUT OF HELL CARD FREE

<RubberRabb> I'm saving it for a good shrine to St. Agatha

<Legs> whut kind of solvent, raven?

<cak> those nice wooden triptychs would be nice too

<Janet> OCCASIONALLY BOTTLES OF WINE COME IN MARVELOUS BOXES, TOO

<RubberRabb> I saw a cool little shrine done in an altoids tin

<Janet> OH YES, WOODEN TRIPTYCHS! I LOVE THOSE!

<RubberRabb> you put a magnet on the back and put it on the refrigerator

<Kaye> thanks miss smart ass

<^raVen^> doesn't matter... just those tin cans turpentine or paint remover comes in

<cak> (only appropriate for 2D stuff though)

<Janet> LOL

<RubberRabb> open the tin and there were even tiny candleholders inside

<glitrbug> I have been looking for a tripyptch to make one of my godfather

<Legs> the squarish tins, Raven?

<RubberRabb> whiskey comes in wood boxes too at Christmastime

<Janet> I FOUND SOME INEXPENSIVE WOODEN ONES AT THE LOCAL CRAFT STORE.

<Libster> what tin has little candleholders, RR?

<^raVen^> yea... with the spout in the top middle.... to use for a candle holder

<Lory> ok yall buy me whiskey and you can keep the boxes

<glitrbug> They just don't seem to have them here anymore

<Janet> I THINK WE ARE JUST PROVING THE POINT THAT IT IS OUR RELIGIOUS DUTY TO NEVER THOW AWAY ANYTHING, RIGHT?

<cak> Of course, you could always build your own box/display

<^raVen^> right!!!

<RubberRabb> you used tiny wooden beads as the candleholders and put birthday candles in the holes of the bead as candles

<Legs> like rubber cement comes in..or the thinner

<Libster> Wow! neat!

<glitrbug> Ha ha Janet, if you just new how much shit I take for being a pack rat

<RubberRabb> so your tiny Altoids tin opens to a shrine with candles inside it

<^raVen^> you have to freeze water in them first... to support the can when you cut it open

<cak> There are an awful lot of nice envelope patterns too

<Legs> you can't say shit in her, Bug

<Lory> what do you cut with raven

<Janet> YOU CAN PAINT PAPER DOILIES IN METALLIC AND USE THOSE TO LOOK LIKE A TRADITIONAL CARVED SCROLLWORK ON THE SIDES, THAT ALWAYS LOOKS COOL

<glitrbug> sorry

<Legs> great idea, Raven!!

<CRAZYCLAUD> PLEASE GIVE YOUR URL AGAIN

<Legs> I was JOSHING, Bug!!!!

<^raVen^> a utility knife

<cak> So something/one that functions as a touchstone or something/one worthy of being

<Janet> I DID MAKE ALL MY NIECES LITTLE SHRINES IN ALTOID TINS

<Janet> http://www.dm.net/~janet/icons/

<cak> ooops

<Legs> shit! shit! shit!!!

<Janet> TOLD THEM THEY WERE POCKET SHRINES

<glitrbug> I work in a very pc office. Yech

<Janet> LEA, YOUR'E CRUISING.

^raVen^ slaps Leg's mouf

<Lory> thats one

Janet PUTS LITTLE RED X MARKS ON HER LEA SHRINE

<Janet> LOL

^raVen^ gives Janet a voodoo doll to include

<Legs> uh oh...I am shakin'

<Janet> DID YOU ALL KNOW YOU CAN USE STAMPS ON POLYMER CLAY, RIGHT?

<MaggieB> did you know raven that people that practice voodoo are catholic?

<^raVen^> yes

<Kaye> lea's got a mouth like a sailor

<Libster> I didn't know

<MaggieB> most people dont

<Libster> I know about using paper clay

<Janet> YOU CAN ALSO USE ACRYLIC PAINTS ON POLYCLAY, I'VE SUCCESSFULLY USED THE LUMIERE PAINTS ON UNCOOKED POLYCLAY, LOOKS WAY COOL ON BLACK CLAY

<glitrbug> all the really out there religious stuff is catholic.

<Lory> i hadnt noticed kaye, lol

MaggieB wishes she had that ammo when she studied with nuns until 12th grade!

<^raVen^> the other half of my mixed up blood stew are french

<RubberRabb> I got a cool shrine back in trade for my spooky arm I mailed out

<MaggieB> you paint the clay before you bake it janet?

<Libster> Lib reminds herself to never eat at Raven's-- blood stew-- YUCK

<Janet> SO YOU COULD LUMIERE UP POLYCLAY, STRETCH IT AND THEN MASH A STAMP INTO IT, COOK IT

<Legs> AND can't you transsfer junk to the uncooked clay or even paper clay with my favorite beverage?

<Kaye> you can do a painted mokumegane with lumiere (sp)

<RubberRabb> it was a book that had been gutted and remade into a book all about shrines

<Janet> USE RUB N BUFF ON IT

<Janet> ALL SORTS OF THINGS ON IT

<RubberRabb> with a shrine inside it, too

<Janet> OH YES! MAKE ALTERED BOOKS LIKE SHRINES

<^raVen^> poly clay is the bestest all around everything ingredient

<MaggieB> what is polyclay? you mean fimo?

<RubberRabb> it was sort of sad> a shrine to her son who was killed by a drunk driver

<Janet> MAGIC LEAF AND GOLD LEAF ARE SO MUCH FUN TO USE IN ICONS AND SHRINES

<^raVen^> or PREMO

<Libster> that IS sad

<Lory> premo

<Legs> you got that right, Raven

<RubberRabb> but the book covered shrines--let me go get it

<Kaye> www.sculpey.com has a great transfer technique on it

<RubberRabb> had all kinds of cool ideas

<Kaye> under patriotic pins

<Janet> YES, LIKE FIMO OR PRIMO SCULPEY (I LIKE PRIMO BEST)

<Kaye> fimo is polymer clay

<MaggieB> ty

<Janet> OKAY, LET'S VIRTUALLY MAKE US A SHRINE IN HERE, SHALL WE?

<glitrbug> I still can't make myself hurt a book. Or get rid of one

<Janet> SINCE I AM IN CHARGE AND I GOT THE CAPS, I DECLARE OUR CLASS SHRINE A SHRINE TO ART SUPPLY ACQUISITION

<Libster> if I go away, it is because my PC crashed, OK?

<Janet> LOL

<RubberRabb> She had a picture of a shrine to a pet cow

<Janet> (OKAY)

<Lory> old credit card

<Libster> Janet has the POWER

<Legs> ok, I am looking at the sculpey site for the transsfer thing......what do I click on next?

<cak> Sounds appropriate

<JonaFromGe> Oh I have a trick

<Janet> SO WHAT KIND OF THINGS COULD WE PUT ON OUR SHRINE? AN OLD CREDIT CARD! YES!

<^raVen^> http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/indexsnt.htm

<RubberRabb> the photo of the cow, with tulips and a sheaf of the stuff the cow liked to eat

<Legs> ok, thanks kaye

<glitrbug> receipt

<Janet> WE COULD SORT OF MELT THE EDGES OF IT, TOO.

<cak> lots and lots and lots of stuff

<glitrbug> good idea

<Janet> RECEIPT IS GOOD!

<Janet> LITTLE CRUMPLED UP PAPER BAGS?

<Kaye> the patriotic pins

<Lory> wire

<Legs> what is your idea, Jona?

<Legs> or trick?

<JonaFromGe> if you have airdryed polymerclay you can store it in tupperware and it stays fresh for more than 18 moth:.-)

<Janet> YES, JONA?

<MomCat> Bright colored plastic bags

<Kaye> you use invent it tatoo paper

<Janet> OH GOOD TIP, JONA!

<Janet> I HAVE LITTLE BITS OF ALL SORTS OF COLORS OF POLYCLAY

<Lory> line it with really pretty paper

<Lory> marbled momi

<Legs> you mean, stamp it or whatever and then store it? I am not understanding why

<^raVen^> good tip Jona.. I have 25 pounds of air dry natural clay I need to store...

<Janet> AND IF IT DOES DRY OUT? YOU CAN USE A FOOD PROCESSOR ON IT

<Janet> OOOO YES!

<RubberRabb> How about adding some cushion and a rubberstamp handle

<glitrbug> smudges of all the pretty inks

<Janet> GOOD DEAL!

<Lory> drop a little glitter

<glitrbug> little piles of glitter

<RubberRabb> and some acetate as a window into a little room

<Janet> OR A LOT OF GLITTER<G>

<RubberRabb> with some confetti and maybe a few beads

<MomCat> confetti

<RubberRabb> inside the room

<MomCat> colored feathers

<glitrbug> Do you suppose it's not a good year for glitter in the Christmas cards to be mailed?

<Janet> WE COULD KEEP OUR SHRINE ON THE TOP OF OUR MONITORS TO BLESS ALL OUR ON-LINE PURCHASES

<^raVen^> beads... i need piles of beads and wire in my shrine

<RubberRabb> a key from a computer keyboard since we're all online

<Janet> LOL I WAS THINKING THAT EARLIER MAYBE NOT TO MAIL CONGRESS CARDS WITH GLITTER IN THEM

<Lory> a little pencil

<MomCat> or a ball from a dead mouse

<glitrbug> I am worried about that. guess I need more see thru envalopes. then they could see it's nothing to worry about

<RubberRabb> you need dried leaves and flowers and a piece of carving material too, Raven

^raVen^ ponders dead mouse balls

<Janet> WE COULD PRINT OUT A COUPLE OF FAVORITE SHOPPING URLS AND PUT THOSE IN THERE TOO

<RubberRabb> Marco's paper says one of the hot sellers now is clear envelopes so people can see what is in the letter

<Lory> cyberstamper schedule

<Janet> JUST JHONE SELLS THOSE CLEAR ENVELOPES, DOESN'T SHE?

<Legs> Marco's WOULD say something like that...

<RubberRabb> a pin of the cyberconvention

<^raVen^> oh yes! my Botticelli eraser from dean

<Janet> OH YES, THE CYBERSTAMPER SCHEDULE!

<Lory> yes she does janet

<RubberRabb> yes she does

<glitrbug> a label from a bean can for all the times we spent the grocery money

<Janet> LOL PERFECT!

<^raVen^> a macaroni for me

<Janet> (NOT THAT i'VE EVER SPENT THE GROCERY MONEY, OH NO, NOT ME, MY FAMILY =LIKES= SCRAMBLED EGGS FOUR DAYS RUNNING)

<MaggieB> a throwaway sheet from a convention

<Lory> trading pin from convention

<MomCat> part of a cutting mat

<MaggieB> good one lory

<Janet> OH YES!

<Janet> WE'RE COOKING NOW!

<cak> wish list?

<MaggieB> shredded money

<^raVen^> I think my aquasition shrine will have to live in a suitcase....

<RubberRabb> the title pages of all the various magazines

<Lory> umm too big cak, lol

<Janet> YES, WISH LIST! LET'S EXPAND THE SHRINE TO FIT IT!

<Kriztina> how can we have a shrine without some Halos in there?

<cak> lol

<glitrbug> all those post its with urls scribbled on

<Janet> GOOD ONE, KRIZ!

<cak> perfect Kriz

<RubberRabb> or mounting cushion and wood

<Lory> evo cork

<Janet> IN FACT, WE COULD PUT HALOS ON THE HEAD OF THE SHOPPING SAINT LOL

<RubberRabb> and an evo template

<^raVen^> NO Halos in my shrine! LOL!

<Lory> old paintbrush

<MomCat> evo mini-thangs

<Janet> OKAY RAVEN, YOU CAN PUT DOUBLE SIDED TAPE IN YOURS

<Lory> none in mine either raven, i am too lazy

<RubberRabb> a chesspiece for Red Castle

<Legs> you girls are sickkkkkkk

<^raVen^> rotflol!

<MaggieB> why lea??

<Lory> coming from you

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> COMING FROM YOU, YES, THAT IS A HIGH COMPLIMENT

Janet BOWS BEFORE LEA'S GREATNESS

<Kriztina> a pickle bag or circus bag from stampoutcute/stampcamp

<Lory> oh, empty candy wrappers

<Legs> well, I'm sick too...it takes one to know one

<Kriztina> i love those pickle bags

<RubberRabb> we're not sick, we're only pining for the fjords

<MaggieB> they are cool

<Janet> I GOT CIRCUS BAG LAST TIME

<Janet> LOL

<Lory> put a beer label in mine

<MaggieB> how about titles off a couple mags?

<Janet> OH FOR SURE, MAGGIE. FOR INSPIRATION DON'T YA KNOW

<Lory> rabbit did that i think

<Legs> we should totalup all the moolah we have spent over the last ten years....now THAT would make us sick for sure!

<Janet> (AND GOOD NEW SHOPPING URLS)

<RubberRabb> a rejection letter from one of the magazines

<Lory> noooooooo

<MaggieB> good one rr

<Janet> NO NO NO LEA, THERE ARE SOME THINGS I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW

<Lory> i cant count that high

<Janet> I DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH I'VE SPENT JUST THIS WEEK

<RubberRabb> wrapped in barbed wire

<Legs> I have been saving all my rejection letters!

<Lory> both of them

<MaggieB> lol

<Janet> LOL

<^raVen^> LOL!

<RubberRabb> all one of them

<Kriztina> how bout a oh what are those called those wheels we all had to buy many of and almost never used them

<RubberRabb> hee hee

<Legs> I have a jillion of them and they are ALL from SS except one from RSM

<Lory> rollographs

<MaggieB> thats it

<Legs> rollagraphs?

<Kriztina> yah rollographs

<RubberRabb> SS doesn't like you, huh?

<Janet> SO DID I MAKE MY POINT YET? WE CAN MAKE A SHRINE OR ICON ON ANY THEME THAT IS CLOSE TO OUR HEARTS. AND ANY MATERIAL IS FAIR GAME.

<^raVen^> I don't have any.... you don't get em when you don't submit cept when invited! LOL!

<Legs> I only bought two

<Kriztina> bought like 20 of them, i think i used one once

<Legs> I was so proud

<Lory> i am thinkin i have bout 10

<Legs> send em to kriz, Lory

<Lory> i dont have em rave cause i dont do anything to submit

<Legs> she neeeeeeeds em

<Libster> what is a rollograph?

<Kriztina> yah i need more to take up space

<Legs> when is your class, Lory?

<RubberRabb> that book I had on shrines--said one guy in Texas even turned his whole car into a shrine to saints

<Lory> i have no class

<^raVen^> I should do a shrine to my cat Tabu.... but it still hurtsd too much

<Janet> MAKE COPIES OF THOSE REJECTION LETTERS, SHRINK 'EM AND PRINT 'EM AGAIN TINY AND MAKE A SHRINE TO PERSERVERANCE?

<RubberRabb> all over the outside and inside of his car

<Janet> OR THE WRONGHEADEDNESS OF SOME MAGAZINES

<Legs> oh, Raven...did you lose your kitty?

<Kriztina> tis a wheel with rubber stamp on it libster, you pop it in this holder and just roll

<Libster> oh!

<RubberRabb> or your tolerance of the magazine's short-sightedness

<Janet> RAVEN, I HAVE SAVED THINGS FOR A SHRINE FOR MY MITS BUT I DON'T HAVE THE HEART TO MAKE IT YET

<RubberRabb> rollagraphs

<^raVen^> my favorite...... Tabu... I miss her SO much still

<Lory> omg janet and rave, i cannot even fathom the subject

<Kaye> it is hard to loose kitties

<Legs> my favoritr SS rejection is "I don't know......It leaves me cold."

<Kriztina> hi rosem

<Kaye> lost way too many myself

<Janet> HEY ROSEM!

<RosemO> hiya

<Lory> i thought all your stuff was hot hot hot legs

<RubberRabb> I would like to do a shrine to all my favorite penpals (relatives and friends now gone)

<RosemO> oops...tea water boilin...brb

<Libster> Raven- my best friend, my cat, George, died from diabeties 2 years ago- I had him for 14 years. I have a little box with 2 whiskers and his neckkerchief in it

<cak> lol (put an ice cube tray in yours Lea?)

<Legs> I lost my darling Bubba and DD within a week of each other last December and I still miss them

<Janet> OH! I'VE MADE LITTLE MINI ICONS THAT SCANNED SO BAD I DIDN'T PUT THEM ON, OF APPALOOSA'S CELTIC CROSS, I'M GONNA SEND THOSE TO MY NIECES TOO

<^raVen^> it's too too hard to make shrines to lost loves... I don't think I can do it for any of my passed babies

<Lory> put a little blanket around the letter lea

<glitrbug> I saved cat whiskers too

<RubberRabb> well, Legs at least you get personalized rejection letters!

<Libster> I still miss George a lot

<Legs> I have saved whiskers too...when ever I find one on the floor, it goes into the whisker box

<Janet> I DON'T KNOW THAT I'LL EVER MAKE THE SHRINE TO MITS, BUT I DO FONDLE THE THINGS FOR IT SOMETIMES

<^raVen^> I do have mementos like that... shed nails... teeth.. whiskers, etc

<Lory> ok i gotta go, got to get up early and get the stitches taken out of the pup in the am

<Legs> yes! I like the shed claw things too

<cak> Night Lea

<Legs> ok, Cuz

<Lory> see ya tomorrow

<Janet> ITS MORE FUN FOR ME TO MAKE THEM FOR FRIVOLOUS SUBJECTS.

<Janet> TAKE CARE, LEA

<Legs> try not to get pregnant

<Kriztina> night lory

<RubberRabb> night lory

<Janet> LOL

<Legs> night, Cak

<RubberRabb> Night Lea

<glitrbug> My friend made me a shrine years ago to my best cat. she cross stitched my kitty waiting for me at heavens gate.

<Libster> I am going to go, too- very sleepy, and tired of fighting this dad bummed mouse

<Janet> SO YOU ALL STAYED UP FOR THIS, WHAT KIND OF THINGS DID YOU WANT TO LEARN HERE?

<Lory> cant happen, if it does, we got a lawsuit

<^raVen^> yes... lets be frivolous again before I get to blatting or something

<Libster> thanks for the info!!!

<Legs> am I leaving??

<Kriztina> night libster

<cak> duh, I shoulda said night to Lory!

<Libster> night!

<Janet> OH LOL IT WAS LORY THAT WAS LEAVING

<RubberRabb> I thought you were--but never mind

<cak> Night Lib

<Kriztina> wb crazy8

<Janet> TAKE CARE, LIBS

<^raVen^> nite Lib

<RubberRabb> I missed a phrase or two--getting a bit of lag

Libster slaps RubberRabbit around a bit with a large trout

<Kaye> lea what is dd

RubberRabbit slaps Lib goodnight with the trout

<Janet> SO WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DID YOU WANT TO LEARN? OR JUST BE INSPIRED OR GET SOME IDEAS.

<Legs> you just WISHED I was leaving

<RubberRabb> I do not

<Legs> ok, I wanta know if anything is sacred

<Janet> NOT ME. WHEN YOU'RE HERE I'M THE GOOD GIRL

<cak> (nu-uh. I love having you around)

<Legs> or can we pretend to be a cat and do whatever the heck we want

<Janet> I THINK ONLY IF IT IS SACRED TO YOU

<^raVen^> okay.. what could I add to a shrine to bad B horror movies?

<Janet> TOMATOES, RAVEN

<Janet> KILLER ONES

<Legs> wellllllll

<Kriztina> vampire teeth

<Kaye> Lea what does dd mean

<glitrbug> popcorn

<Legs> dd?

<cak> Plan 9 ...

<Janet> GREEN SLIME

<Legs> dead duck?

<RubberRabb> yeah, some things just don't feel right to do as shrines or stamping--but that changes from person to person

<Legs> damned dick?

<^raVen^> oh yea.... the tomato!

<RubberRabb> sometimes even from moment to moment..

<Legs> double donger?

<Kriztina> box of raisinettes or milk duds

<Janet> A PICTURE OF CLARENCE THOMAS?

<Kaye> you used it a while ago

<Legs> ok, I am not gonna say the next one I thought of

<Janet> (BAD, JANET, BAD)

<Legs> oh, you mean SS?

<cak> lol

<RosemO> ok bak

<Legs> Somerset Studio

<Kaye> no

<Legs> did I say dd??

RosemO is catching up

<Janet> NO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR DOGS

<Kriztina> lea when you talked about bubba you also sad DD , whats or who is DD?

<Kaye> when you were talking about your cat

<Legs> oh, her name was DD

<RosemO> this is a shrine class...cool...all I knew is there was a class

<Legs> stood for Demon Dreadnaught

<^raVen^> the shrine itself could look like a drive in screen... or a theatre

<Kaye> oh ok

<Janet> YES! SHRINES AND ICONS

<RubberRabb> LOL

<glitrbug> ticket stubs

<Janet> OH AND ROSEM, SINCE YOU ARE HERE... TELL ABOUT THE PAPER MACHE VESSELS YOU ALL HAVE?

<RubberRabb> I have a page in my book with a photo behind a sheet of mica

<glitrbug> sticky stuff

<Legs> her brothers name was Bealzebub, and even tho he was twice her size, she would regularly kick his ass

<Janet> THOSE WOULD MAKE GOOD SHRINE BASES

<Legs> she feared neither man nor beast

<cak> (women are pretty good at that)

<RosemO> there was an AC class I was really interested in...Novel Experience...making some shrine-like thing about some book/poem/song, portraying the story

<Kaye> thats great

<RubberRabb> yeah, but what about you, Legs

<RosemO> I'd love to do something like that

<RosemO> oh! paper mache!

<Kaye> my girls are the same way

<^raVen^> yes!!! Now that's an idea I can really warm up to.... a shrine to a poem or story

<Kaye> cats that is

<RosemO> we have treasure boxes, book boxes and mini book boxes

<RosemO> and you can fit the book boxes into the treasure boxes

<^raVen^> I have some favorite old ghost stories that's be great

<Janet> AND THE PAPER MACHE TAKES PAINT, COLOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS SO NICELY

<Legs> I fear neither man nor beast either!

<Kriztina> hi serene

<Janet> HI, SERENO!

<RosemO> and we have some custom designs that we are going to debut in the winter

<Serene> hi y'all

<RosemO> that would be great shrine bases

<RosemO> hey sereno!

<Legs> I whupped a guy bad who tried to "take advantage" of me once

<Legs> hey, Serene

RosemO believes that covers janet's questions

<Kaye> what

<cak> I could also see using them as a cleansing vessel--do a piece about something that is a part of you, but you'd prefer not (shadow)? Them burn it

<Kaye> tell us now

<Legs> its a LONG story and I have to be drunk

<Janet> SERENE, TO CATCH YOU UP, WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT WE CAN MAKE A SHRINE OR ICON TO ANYTHING CLOSE TO OUR HEARTS, AND ALL MATERIALS WE CAN THINK OF IS FAIR GAME TO USE IN IT

<cak> (I did a series of blank books specifically for burning)

<Legs> wow, cak...issues!

<Janet> OH CAK! GOOD IDEA!

<RosemO> there is the Sharon Kay Penman book Here Be Dragons

<cak> Not really icon, but kinda related

<^raVen^> I did some cleansings... used velveeta boxes....

<Legs> just get drunk more often and eventually you'll burn up the parts of your brain that remember that bad junk

<Janet> VERY RELATED. TO ME THESE ARE SO HIGHLY PERSONAL.

<RosemO> and the scene where Llewllyn forgives Joanna for her infidelity...reminds me of one of my fav songs from my fav singer, and I'd love to do something that combines them

<cak> lol--kinda a hit-and-miss proposition though (not that I use my brain much anyway)

<^raVen^> actually velveeta boxes could be covered and used as permanent shrines too

<Legs> I wanna make a bad mojo shrine for my neurosurgeon....he messed me up, I'm afraid

<RosemO> lol lea re getting drunk

<MomCat> A used copy of Here Be Dragons could be altered to be a shrine for Pip whom I still miss.

<Legs> uh uh..I am on tea tonight

<Janet> MAKE IT AND THEN SHOW HIM, LIKE A VOODOO THREAT UNLESS'N HE FIXES YOU UP

<Legs> hehhhehhheheehe

<Janet> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, DIANE

<cak> let me make a doll of him--got a guy to drop out of college with one once (burned him in the basement bathroom of the dorm and flushed that sucker)

<Legs> can you get good mojo as well as bad?

<Legs> or send it, I mean?

<Janet> I THINK YOU CAN

<Legs> ok

<Legs> I need to send some to a pal

<cak> I would think so too

<glitrbug> yes you can.

<glitrbug> I have a book on that somewhere

<MomCat> YOu can send good energy if you have it to spare

<glitrbug> you can make some good energy...outside or listening to music or birds

<Janet> I'VE BEEN READING LATELY ON THE FOLKLORE ASPECTS OF SPONTANEOUS SHRINES

<Legs> can you just think it like a prayer or should you make a physical artifact and then meditate on that or send it to the friend or what?

<Janet> THIS FASCINATES ME

<RosemO> I don't know if I could do a shrine of something that was directly very personal

<MomCat> Legs, either works

<RosemO> but one that is peripheral

<RosemO> that I could do

<glitrbug> I think for mojo you make something & send it

<Janet> AND I THINK WHAT I WANT TO DO IS CREATE SOMETHING THAT AS i WAS MOVED, I'D ADD TO IT

<cak> like the crosses, etc you see at the scene of fatal auto accidents?

<Janet> YES, EXACTLY LIKE THOSE

<^raVen^> Hey... I just found the patron saint of CATS......

<Kaye> i send angels to people that need them

<^raVen^> Gertrude of Nivelles

<Legs> I love to see those accident shrines

<Janet> THE LAST ARTICLE I WAS READING WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SPONTANEOUS SHRINES IN FRONT OF FIRE STATIONS IN NEW YORK CITY

<MomCat> Some times you can just send it through the air and sometimes an object works better, Lea

<RubberRabb> Lea, don't send a bad mojo thing to anyone--the rules of magic say that if it comes back it will come back against you threefold

<glitrbug> really, will have to read up on her

<Janet> BUT THOSE ACCIDENT SHRINES ARE THE SAME SORT OF THING

<RosemO> People have shrines all around them and don't know it...how do you make that unconscious shrine something intentional?

<Legs> I saw a great exhibit of photo transfers of those accident shrines

<RubberRabb> organize it

<^raVen^> http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintg14.htm

<RubberRabb> my grandmother's

<RubberRabb> s

<RubberRabb> shrine in her house was the collection of photos on the piano

<Janet> SO THAT IS WHAT MY DESK AND PILES OF STUFF ARE? SHRINES AROUND ME?

<Legs> I won't really send bad stuff, rabbit cos I BELIEVE that whatver I send out, I get back at least three times

<RosemO> um yes..to your work

<Kaye> i will try that on the dh

<Legs> I am into that whole karma thing biigtime

<RubberRabb> yeah, and if he messed you up, it will come back to HIM three times

<Janet> ACTUALLY I DO HAVE A RATHER SHRINE-LIKE AREA ON THE SHELF ABOVE MY DESK, THINGS THAT MEAN A LOT END UP THERE

<^raVen^> I believe that too... and I feel AWEFUL cuz I was SO rude to a JW today who was knocking at my door :-(

<Janet> THEN AGAIN, IT MIGHT BE RATHER FUN TO MAKE SOMETHING OF/FOR HIM AND JUST SHOW IT TO HIM. SORT OF LIKE AN IMPLIED THREAT

<Legs> I have a shrine in my studio, I guess...to all my pals who send me such fab-o things thru the mail

<RubberRabb> I have the entire upper shelves of my room as shrines--to rabbits, the folks who give me the rabbits, artwork that inspires and pictures

<glitrbug> me too. a beautiful print in magenta & blue of gorgious woman

<RosemO> when I was a kid, I moved to seattle and my stepmom promised to send me all our stuff....well, she threw it all out...and I to this day feel the loss of that...not the things, but what they represented

<^raVen^> i was way outta line but I was MAD cuz they come all the way down here in my private castle and bang on my door and flip the dogs all out crazy

<Legs> well, Raven...the JW"s get points (or so they think) just for trying to talk to you

<RosemO> my husband still battles with my inability to separate myself from my stuff..because I am afraid of losing what it could mean

<Janet> I AM THE SAME WAY, THOUGH. IT'S WHAT THE STUFF REPRESENTS. I THINK MAKING SHRINES SORT OF TURNS THAT INSIDE OUT

<Legs> ohhhh, RoseM,,,the same thing happened to me only it was my pathetic excuse of a biological father

<cak> I wonder about that too--attachment to things (or the security or potential they represnet)

<Janet> TO CREATE STUFF TO REPRESENT THE IMPORTANT THINGS INSIDE US

<^raVen^> I guess my whole house is a shrine.. I have piles of "stuff' that's just "me"

<RubberRabb> that's issue stuff--things to deal with in life--eventually everything 'leaves'

<RosemO> it created a whole obsessive packratty part of me...do you get that too Lea?

<glitrbug> Yes, me too. Can't seem to get rid of much

<Legs> well, I liked this class the bestest if for no other reason than it makes me feel like I know the people in here better now

<Janet> THANKS, LEA.

<Legs> I have it, RoseM

<Janet> I LIKED IT BECAUSE I LIKE THE SUBJECT.

<Legs> can't throw a SINGLE letter, card, present away

<RubberRabb> even if you end up with everything you ever owned around you

<^raVen^> I'm a compulsive pack-rat too... it's very sad, really

<Janet> AND IT WENT THE WAY I LIKE THINGS TO GO, WITH CONTRIBUTIONS FROM EVERYBODY AND NOT JUST ME TALKING

<RubberRabb> eventually you yourself will leave

<RubberRabb> I'm not a packratter

<RubberRabb> learned way too early that nothing is permanent

<MomCat> This is the best kind of class, to me, too.

<Janet> I AM A PACK RATTER BIG TIME

<cak> I liked 'cause of both reasons plus we're all too tired to watch our mouths as much as we might normally

<glitrbug> really, I thought all artsy people were collectors

<RosemO> well, glad you could get to that part of you rabbit

<Legs> I have cleaning sprees, but there are certain things I cannot discard

<^raVen^> I just detest waste for some reason... can't stand to think of something as useless

<Janet> I'M SURE NOT THERE YET. I HAVE ATTACHMENTS TO BITS AND PIECES OF STUFF

<RubberRabb> and the only permanent part of life is change

<^raVen^> I have big throw out sprees too.. but I never catch up

<Legs> are we supposed to be watching our mouths in here??? How come no one ever told me??

<cak> Me too raven--

<RubberRabb> oh, I do have favorite things I love to have around

<Legs> I thought the computer gave us FREEDOM!

<Janet> NOT ME, BUT I LIKE TO WATCH YOUR MOUTH.<G>

<RubberRabb> photos and items from friends and loved ones

<RosemO> my husband is a throw it out kinda person...and we drive each other nuts...probably the only real thing that we will never see eye to eye on

<cak> LOL (we aren't, but we do I think)

<Legs> marry me, janet

<Janet> GIMME A RING

<RosemO> watching our mouths?

<Janet> HEY SPARKLE

<RosemO> hah!

<sparkle> hiya

<Janet> SPARKLE HAS MADE SOME MARVELOUS SHRINES

RosemO has never been accused of not having an opinion

<Janet> (NAW, JUST WATCHING LEA'S MOUTH<G>)

<sparkle> I have?

<Kaye> hey sparkle

<sparkle> Hi Kaye

<Legs> my martini approaches.....he is SO well trained! Goodnight, ladies and 'Hos! kiss! Kiss!!!!

<Janet> I SWEAR YOU HAVE. OR ELSE YOU HAD SCANS OF SHRINES ANYWAY

<Janet> TAKE CARE, LEA

<cak> I'm not sure which is worse to have the mismatch of neater and packer or two packers.

<RosemO> night lea

<RubberRabb> night lea

<Legs> Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

<cak> Night Lea (for realy

<RubberRabb> I was just ahead of my time earlier

<RosemO> two packers...wowza...what a house that would be

<RosemO> lol

<^raVen^> DH used to be a neater... now he's as bad as me

<cak> Believe me, it's not pretty

<RosemO> chris has given up on some things

<Janet> SHOULD I GIVE AWAY ONE LAST STAMPSMITH HOLY CARD STAMP?

<sparkle> we're a neater and a reformed packer

<glitrbug> 2 packers works if they have separate floors

<sparkle> ROFL

<^raVen^> but fortunately he has MUCH less stuufff

<RubberRabb> oh, that would be nice

<glitrbug> yes, to me

<RosemO> there are just some rooms that I can't let fall apart...the rest, he just has learned to not "see" what is there

<RubberRabb> I would love a holy card stamp which one?

<^raVen^> I'll take any one :-)

<RubberRabb> I have a couple holy cards

<glitrbug> the russian icon one

<Janet> I THINK WHICHEVER ONE THE STAMPSMITH IS MOVED TO SEND YOU

<RubberRabb> LOL

<glitrbug> ok, works for us

<cak> I'm not saying any more or else sparkle'll be tsk-tsking both me and DH!

<^raVen^> DH was raised catholic... he's russian.... we have the coolest russian monestary up the road here

<Janet> AND IF YOU LIKE THIS SORT OF THING, DO GO SEE THE WHOLE PLATE. AND GO SEE APPALOOSA'S CELTIC CROSS AND STAMP CAMP'S IMAGES AND THERE ARE A LOT OF SHRINE-MATERIAL STAMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE!

<sparkle> ROFL

<cak> (that was just my guilt speaking btw)

<^raVen^> LOL

<RubberRabb> nice cats at Third Coast too

<^raVen^> oh... maybe they have that Persian I'm searching for...

<Janet> OKAY. I THOUGHT OF A QUESTION... IF YOU GO TO THE VATICAN YOU CAN SEE THE COOL FANCY DRESSED GUARDS THERE. TO WIN THIS HOLY CARD STAMP FROM THE STAMPSMITH, BE THE FIRST TO TELL ME WHAT THOSE GUARDS ARE CALLED

<cak> Swiss

<^raVen^> oh geeeeesh

<Janet> WHOA

<glitrbug> papal guards

<Janet> SHE IS QUICK!

<^raVen^> i haven't a glue

<CRAZY8> rome

<^raVen^> clue

<RubberRabb> gad she's primed

<Janet> IT'S THE SWISS GUARD

<glitrbug> mercy!

<cak> Utter guess!

<Janet> SHE'S READING MY MIND, (ALL EMPTY PAGES)

<^raVen^> wow

<RubberRabb> I was just hitting teh shift key and she had it posted already

<Janet> CHARLOTTE, WRITE ESTELLE@STAMPSMITH.NET AND CLAIM THAT.

<cak> (well, I knew they were from Switzerland)

<Janet> AND WHOEVER WON THE FIRST ONE, DO THE SAME THING

<RubberRabb> whew

<cak> Yay! thank you!

<glitrbug> way to go cak!

<RubberRabb> is in awe of cak's typing speed

<Janet> I DO LOVE THESE STAMPS.

<MomCat> wtg!

<Janet> I'D RESISTED STAMPSMITH STAMPS UNTIL SHE CAME OUT WITH THE BLESSED ARE PLATE

<glitrbug> Me too. I need the holy card stamps

<Janet> IT SORTA BROKE THE FLOODGATES, I'VE GOT A LOT OF STAMPSMITH STAMPS NOW.

<Kaye> how

<cak> It musta been preordained, 'cause I haven't typed one thing (else) coorrectly tonight

<Janet> GO TO THE CONVENTION BOOTH OF STAMPSMITH, ALL THE PLATES ARE 10 PERCENT OFF

<glitrbug> Of course I have snitched holy cards before weddings

<RubberRabb> LOL

<Kaye> i really need the heavenly beauty stamp

<Kaye> i think that is the right name

<RubberRabb> I need to go wrap my arm and go to bed

<cak> Night RR

<RubberRabb> night all-this was interesting, Janet

<RubberRabb> we need more converse like this

<Janet> TAKE GOOD CARE, RRABBIT

<glitrbug> Nite

<Kaye> night

RubberRabbit hugs everyone and hops out

<Janet> AND REMEMBER THE PAPER MACHE AT APPALOOSA

<^raVen^> I need to head out too... loved this discussion, Janet!

<^raVen^> nite all

<MomCat> nite

<Kaye> night

<cak> One of my favorite photo teachers has the Guadeloupe image on a card with gold bugle bead embroidered around her (in the halo)

<cak> Night Raven!

<Janet> OH AND THE NICE GOLD TOUCHES ON THOSE? POWDERED PEARLS. THAT QUINTESSENTIALS HAS AND OTHERS HAVE TOO

<glitrbug> Ok, great class. i needed a nudge

<Janet> SO LET YOUR MIND LOOSE AND CREATE SOMETHING COOL!

<Kaye> what color

<Kaye> i just got peacock blue

<Kaye> love that color

<glitrbug> Ok gotta go to bed before I fall off my chair.

<MomCat> nite

<Kaye> night

<Janet> I USED THE GOLD AND THE MIDNIGHT PEARLS GOLD AND I WATERCOLORED WITH THAT PEACOCK ON THE WATERCOLORED ONE

<sparkle> o kaye, you need 'em ALL <G>

<cak> Night GB

<Kaye> oh yes i do

<Janet> SPARKLE DO YOU HAVE A PRICE ON ALL THE PEARLS???

<Janet> BECAUSE WHO CAN CHOOSE JUST ONE COLOR/

<Kaye> will you take children i trade

<Kaye> in trade

<Janet> (WE CALL THAT THE SPARKLE SPECIAL "I WANT IT ALL")

<Janet> ONE OF EACH COLOR.

<Janet> OH! AND IF YOU GO BUY THE PAPER MACHE OR ACTUALLY ANYTHING ELSE AT APPALOOSA?

<sparkle> uh NO CHILDREN

<sparkle> rof

<sparkle> rofl

<Janet> SAY "SHRINE ME" ON THE ORDER AND YOU'LL EARN DOUBLE ENTRIES IN THE PRIZE DRAWING

<cak> You know, that's the thing that keeps me from *really* going crazy with purchases--I can never decide what I want the most, so I don't get any (iow, I'm a sucker for package deals)

<Kaye> i need one of everything

<sparkle> I can make up a special price...

<Janet> GEE, CAK, AND I JUST GIVE UP TRYING TO DECIDE AND GET ONE OF EVERY COLOR

<Kaye> decisions are the worst thing

<sparkle> say, 10% off the total if you buy 'em all

<sparkle> (but don't ask me to do that math tonight)

<Kaye> i wish i could

<cak> lol--I'll get back to you

<cak> Ladies, it's been great, but I should be able to make some sense at work tomorrow which means I shoulda been to sleep a while back. I'll see you all tomorrow

<Kaye> Janine, where are you located?

<MomCat> night, cak

<Janine> in Sydney

<Kaye> night

<Janine> nite cak

<Kaye> Oh cool

<RosemO> night cak

<Janine> yes, we say "quiet" a lot

<Janet> take care, CAK, see ya tomorrow.

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