<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<cak> Not too shabby for me. (thanks for the url deb)
<deb> I ordered lots of both LOL
<deb> I love these stamps
<deb> I dare say they are one of my new favorites
<gale> Mine too, deb.
<deb> so glad they are in the mall now
<gale> Wow-deb!
<Olena> samples look really neat
<secondstar> IS JANET HERE
<deb> not yet
<anno> welcome, labelle!
deb says but deb is here > )
<LuniLadi> Hi deb!
<secondstar> SHE'S GOING TO LAUGH AT ME
<anno> janet?
<deb> she's not allowed to laugh at you
<deb> I said so
<anno> we could hide...
<secondstar> MY CLASS INCLUDES WIRED BEADS
<Olena> what is clear embossing ink, is it the one that is blue inside?
<deb> lol
<deb> yes oleana
<anno> make a new room... (noclasshere?) and all hide from her..
<deb> or pink
<deb> or clear
<deb> lol anno
<anno> or not..
<secondstar> USUALLY CLEAR - SOME ARE TINTED BLUE OR PINK
<gale> I have blue, pink and clear.
<Olena> thank you
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<LuniLadi> deb, how's your head?
<gale> I can never make up my mind.
<sparkle> ROFL...she won't laugh Deb, 'causethen people will need more wire from her!
<anno> the one I have right now is GREEN.
<Olena> are they different, gale??
<anno> which is kinda alarming.. when you're expecting it to be clear.
<gale> The blue and pink are tinted. I like the pink and clear the best.
<deb> no
<deb> they aren't different - just tinted so you can see where you stamp
<Olena> I see - thanks
<gale> The blue isn't as good as far as quality, but that's the brand.
<jenmist> I use versamark usually now
<secondstar> VERSAMARK WILL WORK FINE
<Olena> you use versamark instead of embossing?
<gale> I like versamark too. But I love my top boss
<deb> WOW debbies rule tonight!!
<secondstar> I ALWAYS FORGET THAT
<deb> 3 of us here > )
<secondstar> I USE TOP BOSS
<anno> I like tsukineko's one bestest.
<deb> Debbie-let us know when you are ready to start and we'll stop chatting
<secondstar> DEBS RULE
<anno> what used to be called "emboss", but who knows what they call it now.
<Debbie> yeah!
<secondstar> I THINK WE CAN GO
<anno> or..
<anno> I dunno what it's called.
<anno> now that I think about it.
<deb> ok guys - conversation sto a minimum
<secondstar> HAS EVERYONE FOUNF THE CLASS INSTRUCTIONS?
<Olena> yes
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<Rusty> yes'
<anno> no...
<cindyc> y
<LuniLadi> oh debc, your samples are beautiful
<anno> ty
<secondstar> TY
<MaggieB> yep
<deb> I love those samples
<LuniLadi> mmmm...soooo soft and gorgeous
<secondstar> THIS ONE IS FAIRLY SIMPLE
<Debbie> pretty!!!
<Dickk> Beautiful page.......Now maybe I'll drag out all that wire I bought.
<deb> > )
<secondstar> I START WITH MAKING MY OWN TAGS OUT OF CARD STOCK
<gale> I think I might make me a wig jig. I love the look of that wire.
<jenmist> we'll have a race on that dickk
<anno> obviously I need more than the one fresco pad I have!
<deb> I only have a white one
<gale> LOL. You need them all.
<gale> I have all of the old colors.
<Dickk> Dickk still hasn'nt changed it to Scout
<anno> I bought the only one addictedtorubberstamps had, last time I shopped there..
<MaggieB> old colors? arent fresco pads fairly new?
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<gale> Yes-but they recently came out with new colors.
<MaggieB> ohhh
<gale> I only have the older ones.
LuniLadi has about 8
<secondstar> STAMP ON THE CREAM TAG WITH CLEAM INK OR VERSAMARK
<gale> I think 10 old colors and 8 new ones?
<secondstar> I USED THE OLDER COLORS FOR THESE - THEY ARE MUCH LIGHTER
<cindyc> cream ink? hmmm don't have no cream.. i need some!
LuniLadi really has 11...lol
<sparkle> 8 of each luni I think
<deb> ,e tpp
<deb> er me too
sparkle has 'em all, they're all GORGEOUS
<gale> LOL. Wrong keys?
<secondstar> OOPS - CLEAR EMBOSSING INK
<deb> lol
<Debbie> how do they compare to the new ones by Ranger?
<sparkle> the new ones are bolder, brighter colors
<sparkle> I haven't seen Ranger's new ones (yet)
<gale> They aren't pigment (the fresco)
<Dickk> As far as the "old" colors, have they made them "new and Improved", therefore not the same as they were before?
<secondstar> AND EMBOSS WITH CLEAR POWDER
<Debbie> I've seen pictures
<gale> Aren't ranger's pigment ink?
<sparkle> Dick...they're just additional colors, not N&I <G>
<Dickk> I hate it when I see "New and improved" on anything these days. Means "not as good"
<cak> SS, I presume you use the regular ep, not UTEE?
<Debbie> I thought they were like the frescos
<MaggieB> ranger makes adirondack etc, and those are dye inks
<sparkle> Deb, do you recommend detail over regular?
<gale> You must have memories ink. lol.
<secondstar> COVER THE ENTIRE TAG WITH THE LIGHTEST COLOR - IN THIS CASR mEDICCI mARBLE
<sparkle> or whatever clear you happen to grab?
<secondstar> ANY CLEAR FOR THIS
<deb> oh I actually have that one!!
<secondstar> ITS A BOLD STAMP
<secondstar> THE LIGHT COLOR SHOULD CLOSELY MATCH THE
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<secondstar> COLOR OF THE CARD STOCK
<gale> Design elements?
<secondstar> THE FIRST COLOR ACTS AS A MEDIUM FOR THE OTHERS
<JonaFromGe> do you mean direct to paper?
<secondstar> THEY BLEND MUCH MORE SMOOTHLY
<secondstar> YES - DTP
<secondstar> USE A SOFT CIRCULAR MOTION
<secondstar> I USE COSMETIC SPONGES FOR THIS
<secondstar> NEXT USE ONE OF THE COLORED INKS
<secondstar> AND DAB ON WITH A SPONGE, BUT ONLY WHERE YOU WANT
<secondstar> THE COLOR TO BE
<MaggieB> cosmetic again or sea sponge?
<secondstar> THEN DO IT AGAIN WITH THE LAST COLOR
<secondstar> COSMETIC
<MaggieB> ty
<secondstar> YOU WANT A FINE GRAIN
<Debbie> maggie I'm talking about the antiquities by ranger
<LuniLadi> shoot, I just discovered I have 2 roses and 2 med. tides!
<Debbie> had to go find the ad
<MaggieB> lol luni you must like those colors!
<Debbie> Deb always 3 colors?
<secondstar> YOU CAN USE OTHER COLORS
<Debbie> doesn't muddy up?
<LuniLadi> yep..same with stamps...buy twice..lol
<secondstar> LAVENDER BLOOM AND SISTINE SKY WORK WELL
<cak> SS--this is over the heated ep surface?
<secondstar> DOESN'T SEEM TO
<Debbie> thanks
<JonaFromGe> is there a colorchart for the frescopads anywhere?
<secondstar> THE FIRST LAYER MUTES THE OTHERS
<secondstar> SO THEY APPEAR MUCH SOFTER
<gale> at the stampa rosa website
<secondstar> YES - OVER THE MELTED EP
<secondstar> CAN USE ANY #
<cak> OK--was hoping I hadn't missed something! Thanks
<secondstar> I GO BACK WITH A CLEAN SPONGE AND "BUFF" THE MELTED EP
<secondstar> MAKES THE DESIGN POP OUT
<gale> I love this technique. I like any dtp.
<secondstar> ON THE TAG AND THE PANEL FOR THE BOOK
<cak> cool!
<secondstar> I ADDED SOME VEINING
<labelle> book, what book?
<secondstar> WITH A STAMPENDOUS MARBLING CUBE
<gale> I wonder-would stamper's anonymous crackle cube work?
<gale> I already have that. lol
<Rusty> love those
<secondstar> AND BRILLIANCE GALAXY GOLD INK
<cindyc> loverly
<secondstar> ANY CRACKLE OR MARBLE WOULD WORK
<Debbie> I can see I'm going to have to break down and get these inks!!
<secondstar> I ACTUALLY STAMP TWICE FOR THE MARBLING
<Debbie> sooooooooooooooo pretty Deb
<secondstar> FIRST I STAMP ALL OVER
<secondstar> BUT STAMP FIRST ON SCRAP AND THEN ON PANEL
<secondstar> TO GIVE A LIGHT VEINED LOOK
<secondstar> AND THEN AGAIN WITH OUT STAMPING OFF
<secondstar> IN JUST A FEW AREAS
<secondstar> MAKES IT LOOK MORE AGED
<gale> I like the look of the veining.
<secondstar> LAST I BUFF OFF THE BRILLIANCE FROM THE MELTED EP
<secondstar> SO THE VEINING LOOKS LIKE
<secondstar> IT IS BEHIND THE DESIGN
<secondstar> I ADD VEINING TO THE SAGE TAG AND EDGE BOTH WITH GOLD BRILLIANCE
<secondstar> BY TAPPING THE EDHES OF THE TAGS AGAINST THE PAD
<deb> very elegant
<secondstar> GLUE THE CREAM OVER THE SAGE
<paperpushe> Lovely!
<secondstar> PUNCH A HOLE AND ADD FIBERS
<Rusty> do you have to seal it at all? I heard you have to with the fresco pads.
<secondstar> I DO REAL SIMPLE WIRE AND BEAD EMBELLISHMENTS
<secondstar> NEVER HAD TO SEAL IT
<Rusty> ty
<secondstar> BEEN HANDLES AT CONVENTIONS WITH NO PROBLEMS
<paperpushe> Nothing wrong with simple
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<secondstar> I HAVE A WIG JIG
<cak> I bet the buffing takes off any extraneous ink
<cak> k
<secondstar> BUT WHEN I TEACH I MAKE UP
<nancyvt> howdy everybody!
<secondstar> THE SIMPLE WOOD AND WIRE JIGS
<Rusty> hey nancy
<secondstar> FOR MY STUDENTS
<nancyvt> hey rusty, i'm late!
<nancyvt> let me go look at the samples
<Rusty> better late than never!!
<gale> I can't decide if I should buy a jig or make one.
<secondstar> JUST LOOP THE WIRE AROUND THE NAILS
<secondstar> AND ADD BEADS AS YOU GO
<gale> Are those finishing nails?
<secondstar> YES
<gale> My dh will have a new job soon. lol
<secondstar> YOU CAN MAKE THEM IN SEVERAL PATTERNS
<anno> he can do that sittin' down, gale!
<LuniLadi> I bought one gale...you can change the patterns
<gale> Yep! He's better today though.
<secondstar> THE SPIRAL WIRE AND BEAD IN THE SECOND PHOTO
<Bev> Hello everyone
<LuniLadi> I don't have time to fool around trying to make them
<gale> Are they expensive?
<secondstar> HAS DONE FREEHAND
<Bev> Has class started yet?
<anno> they have those plastic ones at michaels,
<LuniLadi> nah...I got mine in the craft store
<anno> they're fairly affordable if you have a coupon..
<Rusty> yes
<Dickk> 40% off at Michaels with coupon
<gale> I don't have a micheals. :(
<anno> my daughter has one.. once in a while I steal it!
<LuniLadi> AC Moore?
<Rusty> gotta love those coupons
<anno> oh. you need one.
<nancyvt> oo, i've seen these kinds of samples once before, i forgot i wanted to try it! now i have the instructions, yeay
<gale> Nope.
<gale> Nothing. I have nothing.
<gale> Don't you feel sorry for me?
<LuniLadi> poor gale
<Rusty> yes poor gale
<Dickk> A moment of sorrow for all those who have no Michaels.
<Rusty> heehee
<gale> It's very sad. :(
<paperpushe> Gale, you have the internet...you have everything at your fingertips LOL
<gale> True. Guess I can quit snivelling now.
<gale> lol
<cindyc> me too gale....
<LuniLadi> that's sooo true
<paperpushe> buck up my friend
<cak> SS, you just finger bent the wire in the 2d photo?
<secondstar> THE BOOK THAT MATCHES THE TAG WAS
<secondstar> A MEAD COMPOSITION BOOK
<cindyc> but rarely 40% off on internet... lol
<secondstar> COVERED WITH WALLPAPER
<paperpushe> true, but usually cheaper to begin with lol
<Rusty> nicely done'
<Dickk> Yeh, but on the internet you can't feel it, smell it, bend it to see how well it's made, ......
<secondstar> ADDED THE PANEL THAT MATCHED THE TAG
<gale> You never know-sometimes I can find some good deals. ;)
<nancyvt> the wire adds such a nice touch!
<secondstar> AND IT'S DONE
<cindyc> beautiful~!
<secondstar> I LIKE USING WIRED BEADS
<paperpushe> Beyoooteeful!
<gale> And it's beautiful
<Dickk> Really pretty
<gale> The beads really add to it.
<nancyvt> i missed it, what is somebody looking for, the wig jig thing/
<gale> wired bead, that is
<secondstar> THERE'S A SAMPLE ON MY MAIN GALLERY
<gale> Yes-the wig jig thing
<nancyvt> maybe ebay?
<secondstar> PAGE WITH A SOUTHWEST FEEL TO IT
<gale> Good idea. I'm dangerous at ebay though. lol
<nancyvt> ya never know, i find the oddest things on ebay
<Bev> http//:secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<secondstar> SO I USED COPPER WIRE AND TURQUISE BEADS
cindyc wonders if she could use her cribbage board as a jig....
<Dickk> that sounds like a great idea, cindy
<gale> Hey-cindy. You might have something there. I have a cribbage board!
<secondstar> I ACTUALLY USE MY HOME MADE JIGS MORE
<secondstar> THAN I USE MY WIG JIG
<StudioBeau> SS, did you do anything to the INSIDE covers of the Mead composition book?
<nancyvt> oh wow, a cribbage board would certainly work!
<gale> I'll probably just make my dh make me some.
<Dickk> I have yet to break the seal on my WigJig package.
<secondstar> CRIBBAGE BOARD WOULD WORK! LOL!
<sally> why
<gale> Unless I use my cribbage board. :D
<cindyc> *†*
<nancyvt> hehe
<secondstar> DON'T TELL DH I SAID THAT
<gale> I love playing cribbage.
<gale> It's been so long though. my dh doesn't play.
<gale> I should make him learn.
<secondstar> I'M WOKING ON A NEW PIECE
<gale> But then I might not get to use my board for a wig jig.
<nancyvt> have to go have some dindin so i can come back for the social, later gang
<Dickk> Another thing to watch out for at the garage sales.
<secondstar> DID THE DTP WITH FRECO
<secondstar> FRESCO
<cindyc> bye nanc
<secondstar> AND THE STIPPLED RADIENT PEARLS OVER
<secondstar> WAITING TO SEE IF IT WILL DRY
<gale> Ooooh-I bet that's nice!
<gale> Hope it dries.
<gale> Or maybe stipple brilliance pearlescents over it?
<secondstar> IT'S REALL SHIMMERY
<secondstar> I'LL POST IT WHEN ITS DONE
<cak> lol--you may be waitin' a while, eh?
<secondstar> MIGHT TRY THE BRILLIANCE NEXT
<deb> cool
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<secondstar> USED THE LAVENDER AND ROSE FRESCOS
<secondstar> WITH AURORA RP
<labelle> ss - what about the other card, the one on the right?
<gale> I love pink and purple together.
<StudioBeau> 2dStar - still curious about the inside covers of the book -- wallpaper also?
<secondstar> THAT'S DONE IN THE SAME WAY
<secondstar> WITHOUT THE VEINING
<secondstar> I USED MY FOUR SEASONS MEDALLION BLOCK
<secondstar> AND THEN LAYERED ONE MEDALLION OVER
<JonaFromGe> what is veining?
<secondstar> RAISED ON MOUNTING TABS
<secondstar> USED BRILLIANCE AND A MARBLING CUBE
<secondstar> FOR VEINING
<secondstar> USED GOLD CARD STOCK FOR COVER PAPERS
<secondstar> THAT'S ABOUT ALL THERE IS TO IT
<secondstar> IT'S REALY PRETTY SIMPLE
<Dickk> Jona, think a piece of marble with little gold thread veins running thru it.
<deb> hi EB
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<JonaFromGe> what is veins my dict doesn't know this word
<EmbossinBa> hello and ty
<Dickk> blood vessels
<deb> JonaFromGermany see the tiny gold veins in the picture
<EmbossinBa> ty jona
<deb> it is the baackground
<deb> stamp
<deb> used with a gold ink
<JonaFromGe> oh I think I know
<deb> it looks like tiny gold veinds
<deb> err veins
<deb> like you see on a piece of rock marble
<secondstar> PALE GOLD LINES OVER THE COLOR
<EmbossinBa> what are we looking at?
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<EmbossinBa> ty
<deb> the cards
<deb> examples
<EmbossinBa> okay why can't i see these veins?
<deb> the gold veins on the cards eb
<secondstar> THEY ARE KIND OF HARD TO SEE IN THE SCAN
<EmbossinBa> ohhhh
<deb> I can see them fine
<EmbossinBa> gotcha
<Dickk> look at the inside of your elbow, Em! tee,hee
<deb> see the card on the left
<deb> lol dickk
<EmbossinBa> i just really needed to look at them
<EmbossinBa> i see the gold now
<gale> They show up the best in the top portion of the bookmark shaped thing on the book. (for lack of a nicer term)
<secondstar> IF YOU GO TO http://secondstarontheright.com/gallery2.htm
<secondstar> BESIDE THE HEADING DESIGN ELEMENTS
<secondstar> YOU CAN CLICK ON THE BOOK AND YOU WILL SEE A BETTER PHOTO OF IT
<secondstar> ANY QUESTIONS?
<JonaFromGe> this is great
<secondstar> REMINDER - I HAVE A SOCIAL FOLLOWING CLASS
<gale> I can see the gold edging much better on the big pic.
<secondstar> AT #SECONDSTAR
<Libster> hi gale! :-)
<gale> I'll be at the social. My family doesn't need to eat. lol. They can eat tomorrow.
<JonaFromGe> I never thought of using the fresco for dtp
<jenmist> I have to make fajitas during social
<gale> Me either. I'm glad, since I shelled out bucks for 10 pads. LOL
<secondstar> WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT TIPS AND TECHNIQUES
<JonaFromGe> eat my are allready sleeping:-)
<jenmist> I made 3 batches of caramels already
<gale> I'll take two fajitas please.
<Libster> is there a certain place where the initiial instructions are?
<gale> And some caramels too.
<Libster> sorry to be late, I slept
<deb> debcowan - your room is all set up and ready when class is over
<gale> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<sally> is the social in this place
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/frescoclass.htm
<jenmist> no
<cindyc> i hit the after halloween candy sale today.... 75 percent off.... dd is in a state of bliss
<gale> LOL. A chocolate coma.
<secondstar> AND I HAVE A TRIVIA/SCAVENGER HUNT CONTEST
<jenmist> lol
<gale> What's the room?
<secondstar> WITH A NICE PRIZE
<cindyc> oh i am bad at trivia..... lol
<jenmist> social is in #secondstar
<Libster> woo hoo!
<secondstar> GOING TO GO MAKE A MARTINI
<secondstar> AND WILL MEET YOU THERE
<Libster> ok
<deb> ok
<jenmist> I have to take pictures of all my samples for tomorrow yet
<deb> thanks
<sally> where is the social...i am not good at this computer stuff
<cak> thank you sooo much SS! Lovely subtle cards
<deb> it's in the room called #secondstar
<gale> Thanks for the class Deb. I love this technique and will be playing later tonight. :D
<cindyc> yup very nice class.... very serene.....
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