<mel> hi y'all

<jhone> hi mel

<deb> hi y'all

<glitrbug> Hi. Looks like another good class

<deb> thanks!

<jhone> it will be

<kristi> hi!

<deb> I love to make Christmas ornaments

<deb> hi kristi

<glitrbug> Me too. I have been making some beaded netting to go over ornaments

<AliciaG> hello

<deb> hi ya

<MaggieB> hi alicia

<MaggieB> hi all

<MaggieB> hi janet

<Janet> howdy!

<deb> hi janet

<Janet> hi hi hi

<jhone> janet!

<jhone> finally!

<Janet> Jhone!

<MaggieB> hey janet maybe you can help!

<MaggieB> i am going crazy

<Janet> way cool star Jhone

<Janet> yes?

<jhone> hey, can i schedule a regular tuesday morning event?

<Janet> hi, Kat

<AliciaG> oh no MaggieB

<MaggieB> trying to make last page for tonight

<MaggieB> and heh ehe

<Janet> you bet, Jhone!

<jhone> "show and tell"

<MaggieB> my mouse is fighting me!

<MaggieB> any ideas?

<jhone> I'll write something up and send it to you

<jhone> okay

<MaggieB> already cleaned the damned ball!

<Janet> excellent, Jhone

<deb> lol

<MaggieB> i hate that

<jhone> good

<Janet> did you reboot? reinstall the mouse driver?

<MaggieB> hard to edit pics with a mouse that is giving one fits

<Janet> Hi, Joyce!

<MaggieB> thats my next step

<MaggieB> after class

<xheight> Hi everyone

<jhone> i figure if folks send me their scans by Monday midnight, I can get them up on a web page so we can talk about them

<MaggieB> ty

<deb> what is it doing?

<MaggieB> just jerky

<MaggieB> sticky

<glitrbug> Maggie, check the cord. maybe it got shifted out a bit with all the excitement

<Janet> i think that would be great, Jhone

<MaggieB> mind of its own

<MaggieB> no cord

<Janet> Hi!

<MaggieB> lol glitrbug

<deb> did you clean it?

<MaggieB> yes

<Janet> What's our page again, Deb?

<deb> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<MaggieB> just hate fighting with it

<MaggieB> especially when trying to edit pics

<glitrbug> I tend to get printouts & CD's stacked up on the desk & sometimes things shift

<Janet> OKAY! CLASS PAGE AT http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<Janet> WE LOVE MAKING TREE ORNAMENTS!

<glitrbug> Hey Libster! i wondered where you were

<MaggieB> what a fun page!

<deb> WE DO

<Janet> DEB, YOU WANT TO START?

<libster> hi gliter!

<deb> I DO

<deb> SURE

<libster> I was lost

<MaggieB> oh! tag team!

<Janet> YAY!

<deb> OK ON THE CLASS PAGE

<brendab> see i knew i was gonna need wire

<jhone> these are so cool

<deb> SOME OF THE ORNAMENTS THAT I'VE MADE THAT ARE REALLY EASY

<deb> ARE THE GLASS BALLS

<deb> SOME OF THEM I USED GLASS PAINTS IN

<deb> AND SWIRLED THEM AROUND ALONG WITH THE LEADING

<deb> THAT YOU CAN BUY TO MAKE THE STAINED GLASS SUTFF

<glitrbug> Leading?

<deb> STUFF

<deb> AND THAT'S WHAT THE GOLD SWIRLS ARE ON SOME OF THEM

<deb> YES ITS CALLED LEADING

<deb> NOT REALLY LEAD

<deb> BUT THEY USE IT FOR THE FAUX STAINED GLASS

<Janet> (MY GOLD SWIRLS ARE GOLD GLASS PAINT)

<deb> IT'S GALLERY GLASS PAINTS

<deb> THAT I USED

<Janet> AND NOW I'M GOING TO TRY LUMIERE PAINTS!

<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<kristi> did you need anything to thin them, deb?

<deb> THE GALLERY GLASS PAINTS ARE TRANSLUCENT

<deb> SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET SOME LIGHT THROUGH THEM

<deb> no

<deb> NO

<deb> DO NOT THIN THEM

<deb> THEY ARE WAY THIN ENOUGH

<Sabine> hi everyone

<brendab> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<deb> JUST SWIRL THEM AROUND

<deb> AND THEN DRAIN THEM ON SOMETHING

<brendab> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<deb> LIKE A SODA CAN

<Janet> BUT TELL ABOUT PUTTING BUCKSHOT INSIDE YOUR ORNAMENT, DEB

<deb> OR STYRAFOAM CUP

<deb> SHUT UP JANET

<deb> LOL

<Janet> LOL!

<brendab> roflol

<deb> DO k4NOT

<deb> NOT

<deb> USE BB'S IN YOUR GLASS

<deb> BALLS TO STIRL THE PAINT

<brendab> oh deb yeah what about BB's??????/

<deb> THEY WILL BREAK

<jenmist> lol

<deb> DON;T ASK ME HOW I KNWO THAT

<Janet> WE WERE DOING THESE IN CLASS LAST YEAR AND DEB WANTED HERS TO HURRY UP SO SHE PUT BUCKSHOT INSIDE THEM TO HELP THEM SHAKE UP

<deb> KNOW

<Cheri> Libby Magnello

<Cheri> 2875 Palumbo Dr #902

<Cheri> Lexington, Ky 40509

<Cheri> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<Cheri> oops

<deb> I ONLY DID THAT 3 TIMES BEFORE I DECIDED NOT TO TRY IT AGAIN <g>

<kristi> lol!

<Janet> SHE DIDN'T JUST DO IT ONCE

<deb> LOL

<cak> lol

<Janet> SHE DID IT TWICE!

<deb> SIGH

<Cheri> I don't know where that came from

<cak> (deb's an optimist)

<deb> 3 TIMES JANET

<Janet> THE GLASS ORNAMENTS BREAK!

<brendab> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<deb> STARTED OUT WITH 3 BBS'

<Janet> THREE??

<deb> THEN 2 BBS

<deb> THEN 1 BB

<deb> THEY ALL BROKE

<deb> SO DON'T TRY THAT AT HOME

<Sabine> what are BB«s

<glitrbug> DEB! three broken

<deb> LOL

<Janet> DO NOT PUT BUCKSHOT INSIDE YOUR GLASS ORNAMENTS

<deb> LIKE IN A BB GUN

<libster> LOL

<deb> OK

<deb> NEXT BALLS

<MaggieB> sabine, pellets from guns make out of lead

<deb> I TRIED METAL CRAFT PAINT

<Sabine> okay, ty

<deb> THEY ARE VERY VIBRANT

<MaggieB> are we going in order here?

<deb> AND I LIKED THEM BEAUSE THEY WERE OPAQUE

<Janet> YOU JUST SQUIRT PAINT, GLASS PAINT OR ACRYLICS OR LUMIERES INSIDE, AND SWIRL THE PAINT AROUND AND THEN LET THEM DRAIN OUT AND DRY

<MaggieB> i am not sure which you are talking about deb

<deb> VERSUS THE TRANSLUCENTS

<deb> UM LET ME LOOK MAGGIE

<deb> SEE THE BLUE GOLD ONE

<Janet> I DID LEARN THAT IF YOU WASH YOUR CLEAR GLASS ORNAMENTS OUT WITH A VINEGAR AND WATER SOLUTION, THE PAINT WILL DO BEST THAT WAY

<deb> THAT IS THE METAL CRAFT PAINT WITH THE GOLD LEADING

<deb> OH YES THAT'S A GREAT TIP I FORGOT THAT

<Cheri> will the lunas work too?

<MaggieB> are you always puting the paint inside???

<Janet> AND YOU CAN DUMP GLITTER INSIDE THE ORNAMENTS AND SHAKE IT UP AND IT STICKS TO THE TRANSPARENT PAINT AND THOSE LOOK JUST AWESOME

<deb> THE BALL AT THE TOP CORNER IS ONE JANET DID WITH THE GLASS PAINTS

<Janet> THE LUNAS WILL WORK TOO

<deb> SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE OPAQUENESS

<evey71> do we have a pic to see?

<deb> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<deb> I ALSO TRIED

<Janet> AND IF A BALL DOESN'T TURN OUT THE WAY YOU WANTED IT, AFTER IT IS DRY, STUFF IT FULL OF TINSEL. THAT MAKES IT LOOK GREAT.

<evey71> thanks

<deb> DABBING WITH A SPONGE

<MaggieB> so the really sheer one on top right is glass paint and all the rest are not?

<deb> THE METAL CRAFT PAINT ON THE OUTSIDE AND THEN USING EVO GLITTER TO ROLL IT IN

<deb> YES

<Janet> THE ORANGE ONE UNDER THAT ONE IS ALSO GLASS PAINT, STUFFED WITH TINSEL

<deb> THE SHEER IS THE GALLERY GLASS PAINTS

<MaggieB> you mean lik ethe long strands janet?

<deb> MOST OF MY BATCH WERE DONE WITH THE METAL CRAFT PAINTS AND ACRYLIC PAINTS

<Janet> THE BLACK ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE HAS GLITTER IN IT

<Janet> YES, LIKE THE LONG STRANDS OF TINSEL

<glitrbug> I like that

<jhone> janet, that black one is gorgeous!

<deb> NEXT I WANT TO TRY THE LUMIERES ON THE GLASS

<Janet> THAT IS BLACK ACRYLIC WITH GLITTER SHOOK AROUND INSIDE IT

<deb> I USED THE TINY GLITTER ON THE OUTSIDE ON MINE

<deb> AND USED SPARINGLY

<jhone> have you tried doing spray adhesive and then pearl ex dumped into the ball?

<deb> NO THAT SOUNDS COOL

<Janet> THE COOL SWIRLING DESIGNS, THAT JUST HAPPENS NATURALLY WHEN YOU PUT MORE THAN ONE COLOR PAINT IN THE BOTTOM OF THE ORNAMENT AND THEN ROLL THE ORNAMENT SLOWLY AROUND TO GET THE PAINT TO COAT THE SIDES

<deb> SLOWLY

<deb> YOU DON'T WNAT MUDDY COLORS

<xheight> how do you get the spray adhesive around the top of the ball?

<jhone> well, it works if you can keep the adhesive from going on the outside of the ball

<Janet> I BET DRIES CLEAR GLUE AND PEARL EX OR GLITTER WOULD LOOK VERY COOL TOO

<jhone> if you spray enough in there, then roll the ball quickly, the adhesive will spread a little

<Janet> SPRAY A LOT AND THEN IT IS RUNNY

<jhone> and some runs from where it catches at the mouth

<Cheri> I tried this once, I left the ornament upside down over night and all the paint came out, what did I do wrong?

<xheight> I see, thanks jhone

<InkyWings> OK, are those ornaments clear from the beginning??

<Janet> (I HAVE A PAIR OF NEW PANTS I DRIPPED SPRAY ADHESIVE ON)

<deb> CHERI -

<deb> YOU NEED TO CLEAN THE INSIDE WITH VINEGAR

<jhone> janet, if you use acetone, you can usually get the spray adhesive out of fabric

<Cheri> ok, I didn't do that

<deb> IT HELPS

<Janet> CHERI, RINSE THE ORNAMENTS IN VINEGAR AND WATER BEFORE STARTING, THAT HELPS THE PAINT STICK TO THE SIDES

<Cheri> ty

<jhone> only don't do it with bare fingers if you are wearing acrylic nails

<deb> PLUS

<deb> I ROLLED MINE AROUND A LOT

<Janet> OH THANKS, JHONE! i STILL HAVE THEM SOAKING, CAN'T GET THE STUFF OUT

InkyWings wonders if one can buy clear ornaments?

<deb> BEFORE TURNING UPSIDE DOWN

<Janet> INKY, WE CAN FIND THEM AT THE CRAFT STORES HERE

<jhone> clear ornaments are at Michaels

<jhone> all the time ...

<deb> PLUS

<InkyWings> ok, just wanted to know what to look for. LOL

<deb> SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO TOUCHUP

<glitrbug> and hobby lobby

<jhone> in fact they now have SQUARE-ish ornaments that are way cool!

<deb> I MUST HAVE NOT HAD ALL OF MINE DRY WHEN I STORED THEM OVER THE SUMMER

<Janet> CHECK AT THE CRAFT STORES, OR GROCERY STORE OR, UH, WE CALL THEM DIME STORES, JUST GENERAL MERCHANDISE STORE

<xheight> where are they in Sweden inkwings?

<kristi> square-ish ones?????

<deb> AND I HAVE SOME SPOTS I NEED TO PAINT INSIDE

<kristi> oh, I gotta get me some of those!

<jhone> check michael's, kristi

<deb> OH

<deb> AND SOME OF THEM I PAINTED THE INSIDES

<deb> AND THEN STAMPED ON THE OUTSIDE

<kristi> ok

<InkyWings> Think I can order them from a catalogue company with crafts over here

<deb> WITH ACRYLIC PAINTS

<jhone> they are really neat - I've resisted so far, since we don't put up a tree

<Janet> IF YOU WANT TO STAMP ON SOMETHING ROUND???

<kristi> hey jhone - I made a t-shirt last night with the lumieres - first time and I love it!

<Janet> DON'T TRY TO STAMP ON IT.

<Janet> TRUST ME

<jhone> inky, if you can't find a supplier for them, email me and I can give you a name

<Janet> LAY THE STAMP DOWN AND ROLL THE ORNAMENT ON THE STAMP

<deb> I DID SEE AN IDEA THE OTHER DAY BUT DIDNT' GET TO MAKE IT UP

<kristi> cylindrical works, but round doesn't

<jhone> kristi, heat set on BOTH sides before laundering

<deb> AND THAT WAS TO TAKE A GLASS ORNAMENT AND MAKE PAINT DOTS

<kristi> yes, I did do that

<jhone> k

<deb> WITH THE END OF A PENCILL ERASER

<kristi> wanna see it??

<deb> THEN MAKE A MATCHING RIBBON TO TIE ON THE TOP

<deb> IT WAS REALLY CUTE

<jhone> deb, those sound cool

<jhone> sure, krisit

<kristi> http://www.kurki15.com/images/nightshirt1.jpg

<deb> YOU COULD USE ANY COLOR COMBOS YOU WNATED

<Janet> OH THAT IS COOL, kRISTI

<kristi> can't wait for the rest to come - the purple would have been awesome for this project

<jhone> i have a tiny stamp that is on the end of a pencil that is star shaped -- wouldn't that be a neat one?

<Janet> OH!

<kristi> ty, janet

<Janet> YOU KNOW THE TINY EMBROIDERY HOOPS?

<Janet> YOU COULD FABRIC STAMP THINGS AND PUT THEM IN THOSE AND HANG THOSE!!

<brendab> oh neat idea

<kristi> yeah, you could

<brendab> i love that idea

<deb> OK

<Janet> AND THOSE ARE INEXPENSIVE

<deb> SEE THE SNOWMEN

<Janet> I LOVE THOSE SNOWMEN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE

<deb> I HAVE A CAN OPENER

<jhone> kristi, the shirt looks neat

<kristi> I am now gonna be making sweatshirts for all three g'ma and D's mom too, lol!

<deb> THAT CUTS THE LID OFF

<deb> SAFELY

<deb> AND WE PAINTE DTHEM WHITE

<deb> WIRED THEM TOGETHER

<deb> GLITTERED THEM

<brendab> so neat

<kristi> those are from the tops of cans??? too cool!

<deb> AND JUST ADDED A SCRAP OF FABRIC FOR THE CCAR

<deb> SCARF

<deb> AND THEY TURNED OUT SO CUTE

<brendab> nose??????

<deb> THEY WERE MY SON'S IDEA

<deb> WELL THE NOSE

<deb> WAS THE END OF A PENCIL

<deb> DIPPED IN ORANGE PAINT

<brendab> oh my

<Janet> SO CUTE!

<cak> they are

<deb> THOSE SCARVES WERE SUPPOSED TO LOOK SORTA LIKE A SCOUT SCARF

<xheight> excellen idea - love things from 'nothing'

<deb> AND I GAVE ONE TO EACH ONE OF THE CUB SCOUTS

<Janet> THE FROZEN ORANGE JUICE I LIKE HAS LIDS THAT DON'T HAVE SHARP EDGES, THEY COME OFF WITH THE PLASTIC STRIP. THOSE WOULD WORK GOOD!

<deb> I WAS GOING TO TIN PUNCH THEM WITH A NAIL

<brendab> they do look like a scarf

<deb> AND CAREY WANTED TO DO SNOWMEN

<deb> SO WE DID SNOWMEN

<deb> LOTS OF SNO MEN!!

<deb> AND I FOUND LITTLE BROOMS AT THE CRAFT STORE

<jenmist> lol

<deb> AND GLUED THEM ON SOME

<jhone> deb, the snowmen are darling

<deb> OK

<deb> THANKS

<deb> OK

<deb> SEE THE STAR IN THE MIDDLE

<deb> THE WOODEN STAR

<Janet> I LOVE THAT STAR!

<deb> PAINTED WITH LUMIERES

<Janet> (I LOVE THE WIRE ONE TOO)

<deb> PEARL WHITE LUMIERE

<deb> STAMPED WITH WHITE MEMORIES

<xheight> so do I janet waiting with bated breath to hear how to

<deb> VARNISHED WITH SPARKLEY ARCYLIC

<deb> VARNISH

<deb> AND THEN WRAPPED WITH WIRE AND BEADS

<deb> VOILA

<deb> VERY FAST AND EASY

<brendab> neat

<deb> AND THE LUMIERE MAKES THEM SHINY

<deb> I LOVE THE LOOK OF THE FLAT MEMORIES WHITE ON THE SHINY

<deb> IT REMINDS ME OF BROCADE

<deb> HARD TO SEE THE STAMPED PART IN THE PIC

<deb> BUT I HAD A DEVEL OF A TIME GETTING THAT TO SHOW :)

<deb> JHNONE

<deb> YOU WNAT TO EXPLAIN YOUR WIRE STAR

<Janet> TELL US HOW TO MAKE THE WIRE STAR!!

<deb> OH AND YOU CAN GET LUMIERES FROM JHONE

<deb> AND WIRE FROM JANET

<deb> JHONE?

<Janet> AND PERMANENT INK PADS FROM QUINTESSENTIALS

<deb> YES!

<libster> jhone having GREAT deal on the lumieres

<deb> OK MAYBE SHE STEPPED AWAY

<deb> SEE THE MOON ORNAMENT

<deb> THOSE ARE CLAY

<Janet> YES TELL ABOUT THE MOON, WHAT KIND OF CLAY?

<deb> THAT WERE STAMPED AND COLORED WITH MARKERS

<deb> FIMO

<deb> OR SCULPY

<deb> ROLLED OUT THIN

<deb> BAKED

<Janet> (FROM QUINTESSENTIALS, PREMO IS ON SPECIAL!)

<deb> AND THEN STAMPED AND COLORED IN WITH MARKERS

<deb> THOSE WERE ACTUALLY GIVEN TO ME BY A FRIEND

<libster> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/justjhone.html Jhone's site

<deb> I DID NOT MAEK THEM MYSELF

<deb> AND SHE PUT A SEALER ON THEM

<deb> SO YOU COULD WIPE THEM OFF

<libster> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/ class url

<Janet> LAST YEAR SPARKLE TAUGHT US HOW TO MAKE HOLLY WITH POLYMER CLAY.

<brendab> love that too

<deb> I THINK THE LAST ORNAMENT I HAVE ON THAT PAGE

<Janet> THOSE WOULD MAKE GREAT ORNAMENTS

<deb> IS THE LITTLE CAN PEOPLE

<libster> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<deb> YOU TAKE A SOCA CAN

<deb> OR A SODA CAN

<deb> LOL

<libster> Hi fishtail- class url http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<deb> AND CAREFULLY SQUISH IT IN THE MIDDLE

<deb> AND FOLD IT FLAT

<deb> TKE OFF THE TAB

<deb> PAINT

<deb> I HAD TO USE A PRIMER FIRST

<deb> PAINT ON A FACE

<deb> AND I USED A POPCORN KERNAL FOR THE NOSE

<deb> CURLY HAIR FOR THE HAIR

<libster> How clever!!! those are soda cans??? Wow!

<deb> AND VOILA PEOPLE

<deb> YES

<brendab> neat looking

<deb> THEY USED A BUTTON WOODEN NOSE FOR THOSE

<deb> BUT ON MINE I USED A POPCORN KERNAL

<libster> those are cute!

<deb> KERNEL

<libster> very original!

<deb> THEY ARE SO EASY

<deb> AND FUN

<jenmist> angels!

<libster> they look fun!

<libster> you could make them be cats, too, don't you think?

<deb> I ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLE PATTERN PAGE OF DIFFERENTS ONES

<Cheri> is that fabric or ribbon for rw & b one?

<deb> YES

<libster> wow!

<Janet> OH YES! YOU COULD MAKE THEM BE ANYTHING

<deb> RIBBON

<Janet> AND USE UP YOUR FABRIC AND RIBBON SCRAPS

<deb> I LIKED THE CAROLERS

<deb> YES GREAT FOR USING UP SCRAPS

<Janet> I HATE TO THROW AWAY ANY SCRAP

<deb> DID JHONE COME BACK YET

<jhone> here i am

<jhone> sorry

<deb> CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR STAR

<deb> WIRE STAR

<Janet> JHONE! TELL US HOW TO MAKE THE STAR!

<jhone> sure

<deb> THANKS

<jhone> I used a fairly soft wire, wrapped it around a star shaped cookie cutter to get the initial shape

<deb> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<jhone> then I wove the wire back around, adding a seed bead every so often

<Janet> OHHHH GOOD IDEA!

<evey71> oh very clever

<Kaye> hello

<deb> WOW

<Kaye> sorry im so late

<jhone> after I had gone around the second time, I then start criss-crossing, adding beads at random

<jhone> easy

<Janet> THAT IS SOOO COOL!

<jhone> i got the idea from an art museum's christmas catalog

<deb> IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT EASY1

<Janet> I HAVE A HOLLY COOKIE CUTTER, I BET THAT WOULD WORK, TOO

<deb> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<jhone> had them in sterling silver

<cak> What guage wire did you use jhone?

<jhone> ummm

<Janet> 24 GAUGE?

<Janet> ARTISTIC WIRE TYPE?

<jenmist> it is prolly not that easy

<Sheryl_Pow> So Jhone, the cookie cutter stays attached?

<jhone> somewhere around that

<jenmist> my wire hates me

<cak> gotcha--

<Janet> YOUR WIRE WOULD LOVE YOU IF YOU WOULD PLAY WITH IT

<jhone> no, the cookie cutter is just for the shape

<jenmist> it fights me Janet

<jhone> I also used a soda can to get a round one

<evey71> It would have to be thin enough to fit on the seed bead huh

<jhone> and a small square box

<jhone> well, you could use larger beads

<Sheryl_Pow> oh ok, how do you get if off after you've wound the wire?

<Janet> IT FIGHTS YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T LOVE IT AND PLAY WITH IT ENOUGH. IT WOULD LOVE YOU IF YOU WOULD PLAY WITH IT ALL THE TIME. :)

<jhone> yes, you remove the shape thingy after you go around once

<jhone> I made that first one in about 45 minutes

<Sheryl_Pow> oh ok...gotcha!

<jhone> the next few took a about half an hour each

<Janet> I LOVE THAT. I AM GOING TO TRY THOSE.

<xheight> could you cut out a star out of stencil stuff and keep it in the middle?

<mel> i can see i'm going to need more wire!

<jhone> I tried using a paper shape, but it was difficult

<Janet> I BET YOU COULD! OR ANYTHING OUT OF TRANSPARENT

<deb> YOU COULD HANG CHARMS TOO

<deb> I KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET CHARMS

<cak> vellum

<deb> JHONE DO YOU KNOW?

<jhone> i found that using something that had an actual rigid shape was better

<Janet> I KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET CHARMS!

<jhone> you know, I never thought about charms on the things

<deb> SHEESH JHONE

<brendab> lol

<deb> LOL

<cak> (cut out the insides after shaping on the cookie cutter?)

<jhone> heck ... the little stars would be neat

<xheight> vellum may not be stiff enough

<deb> WOULD BE DARLING

<deb> NOW YOU HAVE TO SEND ME ONE

<Janet> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HANGING CHARMS OFF THE WIRE TREE

<deb> HEH

<jhone> ok, i'll put you on the list

<xheight> good idea cak

<deb> OH YES AND CHARMS ON THE TREE FOR JANET

<jhone> stars are the only shape I have

<libster> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/ class url

<deb> > )

<jhone> so far <G>

<deb> OK - JANET -

<deb> WE ARE READY FOR THOSE WIRE TREES

<Janet> I HAVE A HOLLY COOKIE CUTTER. I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS WITH THAT AND GREEN WIRE

<Janet> OH.

<Janet> WIRE TREES

<deb> AND ICICLES

<Janet> EASY

<Janet> ICICLES

<jhone> wire trees!

<Janet> EASY

<brendab> she always says that

<deb> i know

<deb> lol

<Janet> LOL THEY ARE!

<libster> <----------- thinks nothing is easy

<brendab> not for me

<sparkle> oh, a charm suspended in one of the balls would be cool

<Janet> THE WIRE TREE IS VERY EASY

<deb> OH COOL SPARKLE!

<libster> you could make a charm tree for your window to have all year

<evey71> cool-now all I have to do is type to you and try and keep up Hey girlz can do anything. did you get the web page for ornaments?

<Janet> IT IS ABOUT 26" OF WIRE, I USED RED, GREEN AND GOLD COLORED BRASS WIRE (24 GAUGE) TWISTED TOGETHER

<libster> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/ class url

<Janet> AND YOU FIRST BEND OVER ABOUT SIX INCHES OF WIRE (THIS BECOMES YOUR TREE TRUNK AND BASE)

<brendab> is this what i am getting janet?

<jhone> is the tree flat or 3D?

<Janet> MAKE AN L SHAPE (THE TREE IS 3-D)

<Janet> THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING, BRENDA

<brendab> ty

<Janet> WITH ONE PART OF THE L BEING ABOUT 5-6" LONG AND ALL THE REST STICKING UP ON THE OTHER SIDE

<Janet> PUT YOUR PLIER TIPS RIGHT ON THE BEND AND WIND THE LONG PART AROUND THE VERY TIPS TO MAKE A CIRCLE

<Janet> THEN KEEP WINDING THE WIRE AROUND THAT CIRCLE TO MAKE A COIL

<Janet> (SO IT LOOKS LIKE A RAG RUG? LIKE THAT?)

<Janet> UNTIL YOU'RE OUT OF WIRE

<xheight> do you mean the tips of the pliers?

jhone thinks her tree would look like a pin cushion

<Janet> SO YOU HAVE A COIL OF WIRE WITH ONE END STICKING DOWN OUT OF THE MIDDLE

<nancyvt> hello!

<nancyvt> is there a url for samples?

<deb> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<libster> hi nancy

<Janet> YES, HOLD THE BEND, RIGHT AFTER YOU MAKE THAT FIRST BEND, WITH THE TIPS OF YOUR PLIERS AND USE YOUR FINGERS TO BEND THE WIRE AROUND THE TIPS SO YOU HAVE THAT FIRST CIRCLE

<cak> I presume you don't have to be terribly anal about your coil?

<libster> LOL

<xheight> right, thanks

<Janet> THEN KEEP BENDING THE WIRE AROUND AND AROUND THAT SO YOU HAVE A COIL

<jhone> no, cak, one must be awfully anal about janet's projects!

<Janet> YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PLIER TIPS OUT AND HOLD THE COIL AS IT GETS BIGGER IF YOU WANT, TO KEEP IT FLAT

<Janet> JHONE, YOU LIE LIKE A BAD RUG!

<jhone> moi?

<xheight> ok

<Janet> THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A GOOD COIL

<deb> LOL

jhone will pout now

<Janet> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EVEN

<cak> lol

<Janet> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PERFECTLY FLAT

<Janet> WHEN YOU HAVE COILED ALL THAT WIRE AROUND

<Janet> SO YOU HAVE A BIG WIRE RUG LOOKING COIL WITH A PIECE OF WIRE STICKING OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF IT...

<jhone> and now your coil looks like a whirling dervish

<jhone> you throw it in the trash and pretend you were only playing

<Janet> YOU TUG THE COIL DOWN AROUND THE PIECE OF WIRE STICKING DOWN AND IT MAGICALLY MAKES THAT TREE!

<xheight> good description jhone

<Sheryl_Pow> lol jhone

<jhone> experience

<Janet> NO NO NO. WHIRLING DERVISH IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE!

<Janet> YOU WANT THAT!

<jhone> okay, it will look like a SICK whirling dervish with the dropsy

<Janet> AND IF YOU USED ABOUT 20" FOR THE COILING PART, YOUR TREE ENDS UP 3-4" TALL

<jhone> <G>

<Janet> AND THAT'S OKAY!

<evey71> voila I get that-

<libster> Jhone! behave! LOL

<Janet> IF YOU WANTED A PERFECTLY ROUND TREE WITH PERFECTLY SPACED COILS, YOU WOULDA GONE AND BOUGHT ONE AT THE STORE

<jhone> i'm behaving

<nancyvt> these are cute!!

<Janet> YOU WANT A COOL LOOKING ARTSY TREE!

<nancyvt> jhone, are you misbehaving?

<jhone> notme

<libster> {{{{{{{{ libster hubs jhone }}}}}}}}}}

<Janet> AND THEN THE WIRE STICKING DOWN THAT'S THE TRUNK, YOU CAN BEND A BASE ON IT SO IT STANDS UP

<brendab> lib dont tell your grandma to behave roflol

<libster> hub=big hug

<Janet> OR YOU CAN HANG IT ON A TREE WITH A HOOK

<Kaye> god does not make perfect trees

<nancyvt> that's not what i see going backwards

<xheight> love to try one with thick wire..

<nancyvt> libby, jhone is your grandmother?

<Janet> OR YOU CAN PUT EARWIRES ON IT AND MAKE A SECOND ONE AND WEAR IT AS EARRINGS

<Kaye> no tree is perfect

<Janet> SO THERE

<libster> MOM! you know how old folks get....

<Janet> AND IT'S EASY

<brendab> yes

<jhone> janet, does it lose anything if you use all one color wire?

<nancyvt> libby, you have you whole family here?

<libster> yes, nancy, jhone is my gramma- Brenda is my mom

<Janet> AND JHONE WILL MAKE A FANTABULOUS ONE TOMORROW

<xheight> super Janet, great ideas

<nancyvt> wow!

<Janet> OH NO! I MADE A BEAUTIFUL ONE OUT OF 20 GAUGE BRASS WIRE!

<nancyvt> i can't get my mother interested...

<libster> I's adopted

<jhone> k ...

<Janet> AND I MADE A BEAUTIFUL ONE OUT OF COPPER WIRE I BOUGHT AT THE HARDWARE STORE

<jhone> nancy, we all have adopted families here

<brendab> oh neat

<Janet> AND NEXT YEAR THAT COPPER WILL BE TARNISHED AND GREEN!

<xheight> that's where I was going to go too.....

<brendab> i will have to hurry that wire up here

<Kaye> cool

<xheight> no no it will look W E A T H E R E D!

<nancyvt> oh duh... i was thinking for real...

<brendab> i cant wait to try this

<Janet> WEATHERED! YES!

<Janet> BRENDA, I'M COILING YOUR CHRISTMAS PACKS OF WIRE.

<jhone> nancy!

<nancyvt> yes ma'am?

<jhone> I have NO real children

<jhone> nonono

<brendab> yippieeeeeeeeee

<Janet> (I AM SELLING CHRISTMAS WIRE KITS, I MAY BE COILING THIS WIRE UNTIL FOREVER)

<nancyvt> me neither... you wanna adopt me too?

<libster> nancy- you have private message

<libster> up at top

<jhone> sure, i'll add you

<libster> brenda is my rubbermom

<Kaye> i got one on order too

<Sabine> I saw a wire tree with beads tied to it

<jhone> somebody better keep track, though

<Janet> AND THE BALL LOOKING ORNAMENT OUT OF WIRE?

<libster> LOL

<nancyvt> oohhhh...

<xheight> can someone tell me how to do a private message>

<nancyvt> i dunno how, i'm on the web

<libster> double click the person

<libster> s name

<jhone> xheight, are you using MIRC?

<xheight> yes

<Janet> THAT ONE YOU MAKE IF YOU MAKE A COIL ON EACH END OF THE WIRE (ABOUT 20" OF IT) AND COIL THEM TO THE MIDDLE AND THEN STRETCH OUT BOTH ENDS

<jhone> thenm double click on the person's name on that list to the right

<jhone> and another screen will pop up

<Janet> THERE'S A PHOTO PAGE OF INSTRUCTIONS FOR ALL MY WIRE ORNAMENTS ON THE WEEBEWIRE SITE

<jhone> type in there and it is private to that person

<xheight> super, knew it was possible but didn't know how, thanks

<jhone> janet, did you already explain the icicle-y ones?

<Janet> OH NO, NOT YET. LOL

<Sheryl_Pow> url?

<Janet> I FORGOT THOSE

<Kaye> warning janet's web site makes you want to buy wire

<jhone> well, get started

<brendab> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<nancyvt> test...

<Janet> FOR THE WIRE INSTRUCTIONS, www.weebewire.com AND GO TO THE INSTRUCTION PAGES. THE BEEHIVE LOOKING ONE IS ACTUALLY IN THE EARRING INSTRUCTIONS

<jhone> xheight, look up ... above the title bar of this room

<Janet> IT'S CALLED A CAGE

<nancyvt> somehow i don't think that worked...

<Sheryl_Pow> thanks Janet!

<Janet> THE ICICLE ONES!

<Janet> CUT LIKE SIX PIECES OF WIRE, ABOUT A FOOT LONG EACH, DIFFERENT COLORS, OR THE SAME COLOR

<Janet> WHATEVER YOU LIKE (THESE ARE AWESOME JUST BEAUTIFUL DONE IN STERLING SILVER)

<jhone> yeah, and expensive, too, huh?

<jhone> <G>

<brendab> does this mean i have top buy sterling wire too?

<Janet> LAY THOSE PIECES OF WIRE OUT ON YOUR DESK IN THE PATTERN YOU WANT, I LIKE THESE BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE CHRISTMAS RIBBON CANDY

<Janet> ACTUALLY, LET'S SEE, SIX FEET OF 24 GAUGE STERLING SILVER, ROUND HMMMM

<Janet> $3 WORTH

<brendab> ok ty

<jhone> cool, janet

<Janet> SO YES, MORE THAN THE 60 CENTS THAT THE BRASS WOULD COST YOU

<Janet> BUT $3 FOR STERLING

<jenmist> I need to come to Texas for on hands class

<brendab> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<Janet> BECAUSE IT TAKES ABOUT SIX FEET

<jhone> that is NOT bad ...

<glitrbug> Don't forget the cross

jhone thought sterling would cost more

<jenmist> I will bring candy Janet

<Kaye> is the cross really hard

<jhone> you didn't tell us how you got the spiral, Janet

<brendab> how do you get them to stay together?

<Janet> THEN YOU TAKE A PIECE OF SCRAP WIRE AND WRAP THE BUNDLE OF WIRES AT THE TOP AND THE BOTTOM AND IN THE MIDDLE, THEN WIND IT AROUND A PEN OR BRUSH I USED A GLUE PEN

<Janet> AND BINGO. THERE YOU GO

<brendab> oh neat

<evey71> and the litttle angelic plaques

<Janet> SHAPE THEM AROUND YOUR STIPPLE BRUSHES

<brendab> wow

<Janet> THERE'S STEP BY STEP PICTURES OF THIS ON WEEBEWIRE.COM

<fishtail> Janet do you have tools on her sight as well as wire?

<Janet> THE HARDEST PART IS GETTING THE WIRES TO LAY FLAT WHILE YOU'RE WRAPPING THE ENDS. AND I USED MASKING TAPE TO MAKE THEM STAY FLAT UNTIL I GOT THEM WRAPPED

<nancyvt> i'll be dipped! i just did a private message and wasn't trying! harharhar

<Janet> I DO HAVE TOOLS TOO

<Janet> LOL NANCY

<Janet> THE THINGS YOU LEARN IN CLASS.

<fishtail> ty

<nancyvt> i was trying to ask jenmist if any of her candies were lowcal... i sent it to jhone

<cak> and tool holders too

<glitrbug> I really need the toolholder

<Janet> THE LITTLE RELIGIOUS PLAQUES AT THE BOTTOM, THOSE I STAMPED ON ACETATE (CHEAP COPIER TRANSPARENCIES FROM THE OFFICE SUPPLY STORE) WITH BRILLIIANCE PAD INK

<glitrbug> How did you color the madonna?

<fishtail> great

<Janet> AND THEN EITHER PAINTED THE BACK WITH LUMIERE PAINTS, OR JUST GLUED A CANDY WRAPPER ON THE BACK, THEN GLUED THEM TO LITTLE PIECES OF WOOD

<Sber> url please?

<cak> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<Sber> thanks!

<Janet> THAT WAS BROWN BRILLIANCE INK ON TRANSPARENCY, A LITTLE GOLD LUMIERE PAINT FOR THE HALO, THEN A CANDY WRAPPER GLUED TO THE BACK, THEN THE WHOLE THING GLUED TO A PIECE OF WOOD

<Janet> THEN I PUT GOLD LUMIERE PAINT AROUND THE EDGES

<evey71> Some of us are deciding we need a degree in keeping up with this. LOL whirrrrrlllll. Script will be on later right????

<nancyvt> i love that brown! its one of my favorite

<Sber> Wow! such pretties!

<Janet> THE OTHER WAS GOLD LEAF (LIKE THE MAGIC LEAF THAT APPALOOSA SELLS) AND THEN GOLD LUMIERE AROUND THE EDGES

<glitrbug> That is so pretty

<glitrbug> And I have been hoarding some pretty candy wrappers

<Janet> THAT MADONNA STAMP IS PART OF THE STAMPSMITH'S SET OF "BLESSED ARE" STAMPS, THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL ONES ON THAT PLATE

<Janet> THE OTHER MOSAIC SAINT IS STAMP CAMP (THEY'RE IN THE VENDOR MALL)

<Janet> CANDY WRAPPERS MAKE GREAT BACKINGS FOR TRANSPARENCY PAINTINGS :)

<Janet> I SACRIFICE FOR MY ART. I EAT THE CANDY

<Sber> Hummm I'm gonna have to carve up a madonna stamp or maybe a saint.

<Kaye> what candy?

<Janet> ALL CANDY!

<Janet> (I LIKE JEN'S CANDY BEST)

<jhone> rollos have nice foil

<jenmist> lol

<Janet> BUT THE FOIL i GET FROM ROLLOS AND MILKA AND NESTLE BARS

<nancyvt> JEN, IS ANY OF YOUR CANDY LOWCAL?

<xheight> Ferrero Roche even nicer

<Sber> Jen's gonna have to start using neato foil!

<glitrbug> Baker's chocolates have milar wrappers

<Janet> OH NANCY, IT'S ALL LOW CALORIE.

<jhone> no, jen's prices would go way up if she hadda use foil

<Janet> (UH HUH. THIS IS THE STORY I TELL MYSELF)

<jhone> we want prices to stay moderate

<Sber> broken chocolate has fewer calories

<jhone> jen makes wonderful nekkid balls

<nancyvt> NOW I KNOW YOU ARE FIBBING...

<jhone> and turtles

<Janet> OH BUT THE BROWN CUPS THAT MALTED MILKS ARE IN, FROM JEN?

<Janet> THOSE MAKE GREAT BACKINGS AFTER YOU'VE PAINTED WITH GOLD AND BRONZE LUMIERES

<jenmist> lol

<glitrbug> Chocolate for breakfast is lo-cal cause my body isn't awake yet

<jhone> who made the small moonshaped ornament in the middle and what is it??

<Janet> I THINK ANYTHING MADE WITH PURE COCOA AND BUTTER HAS GOT TO BE GOOD FOR YOU.

<Janet> THAT'S MY STORY AND I'M STICKING TO IT

<jhone> good story, janet

<Janet> THAT'S ONE OF DEBS, IS STAMPED IN POLYMER CLAY AND PAINTED

<jhone> ok

<xheight> Lindt 70% Cocoa

<deb> ANY QUESTIONS?

<glitrbug> As my grandma would say, "it's made with good farm butter!"

<brendab> http://cyberstampers.com/class/holiday/

<jhone> i'm doing stars from white polymer clay that has been lightly marbled with gold or silver

<Janet> GOOD FARM BUTTER! YES!!

<deb> SOUNDS PRETTY JHONE

<jhone> i hope they turn out

<jhone> i haven't baked any yet ...

<nancyvt> i've been making christmas ornaments all day

<Janet> AND YOU CAN GET THE WHITE AND TRANSLUCENT POLYMER CLAY AND MIX THE POWDERED PEARL MICA IN WITH IT AND IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL

<Janet> AND YOU CAN PAINT POLYMER CLAY WITH THE LUMIERE PAINTS

<Janet> SO BEAUTIFUL

<jhone> oh, janet , I didn't think about doing the powedered pearls

<glitrbug> That does sound beautiful

<Sber> you can brush on pearl ex before baking!

<deb> THANKS FOR COMING EVERYONE - NEXT CLASS IS ALICIAG

<Janet> JUST MIX THOSE POWDERED PEARLS IN THE CLAY

<Janet> IS JUST BEAUTIFUL!

<fishtail> did that lst night and it truly is beautiful

<jhone> i put gold leaf on some of the clay then mush it in with the pasta machine until it was just little flecks

<Janet> YAY! ALICIA G AND MORE ORNAMENTS MADE WITH CLINK ITS!

<deb> ARE WE IN THIS ROOM

<jhone> is alicia's class here?

<AliciaG> thank you ladies

<deb> YW

<deb> THANKS JANET

<nancyvt> i thought it was the rubberclassroom?

<Janet> OR JHONE, LAYER CLAY WITH THE LEAF AND THEN CUT SLICES FROM IT. BEAUTIFUL!

<AliciaG> yes, rubberclassroom

<Janet> THANK YOU DEB!

<nancyvt> that's what the schedule says

<jhone> I"ve done that one, janet

<deb> OK COMING OVER

<Kaye> bye everyone see you in the next class

<nancyvt> thanks deb

<Janet> Alicia is in #rubberclassroom

<fishtail> yes, thanks Janet. I tried to keep up.

<jhone> also made stretch mark clay using leaf

<Janet> Let's go there now!

<evey71> janet do you stamp into the clay aswell?

<brendab> thanks for a great class deb,janet and jhone

<Sber> okay!

<Janet> the wire instructions are on www.weebewire.com and you can always write me too

<Janet> i do, stamp right into the clay

<jhone> janet where are you going this week?

<Janet> love that polyclay!

<cak> If anyone wants a log of the class, just email me at cak@dm.net

<Janet> Belgium

<jhone> ohhhhhhhh

<Janet> (to drink)

<jhone> vacation?\

<cak> Thank you Janet and deb--I love these. Really put me in the holiday sprirt

<jhone> you are bad!!!

<Janet> yes, I am going to drink serious amounts of beer

<evey71> thanks heaps

<Janet> and i've always wanted to be in Flanders on 11-11 so I'm doing that too

<deb> yw cak

<mel> thanks for the class!!.. can't wait to make these!

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