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<MAGGIEB> everone run to the potty and pour a glass of wine!

<kat> i can see a path to the potty door!

<MAGGIEB> not as many on tonight as last night

<MAGGIEB> 52 people in class last night when i got home after 11!

<MAGGIEB> wowo

<cak> it's still a tad early

<MAGGIEB> what a sight

<MAGGIEB> oh, i dont need 52

<MAGGIEB> lol

<kat> work tomorrow maggie

<MAGGIEB> brb phone

<Cher> 52??

<MAGGIEB> figures

<deb> hi christina

<deb> where you ben?

<deb> been?

<AliciaG> will do!!

<AliciaG> <timetostamp> yo

<AliciaG> doh

<cak> Lea's class I believe--they really turn out for Lea

<MAGGIEB> why do people wait til you are ready to teach to call???

<deb> lol

<MAGGIEB> lol

<MAGGIEB> yikes

<MAGGIEB> and i am home alone

<AliciaG> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatchers.html

<MAGGIEB> and cannot see the caller id from here

<MAGGIEB> geesh

<Cher> hi Janet!

<MAGGIEB> hey janet!

<kat> hi janet

<Janet> hi

<karen> hi janet

<Janet> howdy

<deb> hi janet

<MAGGIEB> we will wait a couple mins and then dive in okay?

<paperpushe> Hi Janet!

<AliciaG> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatchers.html

<cak> Your preference!

<MAGGIEB> BEFORE WE ACTUALLY START I HAVE TO SAY THAT I OWE THIS CLASS TO CYBERSTAMPERS......

<MAGGIEB> I FOUND YOU ALL DURING YOUR FEBRUARY CONVENTION....

<MAGGIEB> HEH HEH

<deb> yeah maggie

<cak> (and the rest is history!)

<MAGGIEB> AND DURING THAT CONVENTION I TOOK CLASSES LIKE WE ALL DO

<MAGGIEB> YEP THATS FOR SURE CAK!

<MAGGIEB> I WANT TO SAY I AM AM NOT AN EXPERT AT THIS

<MAGGIEB> I OWE IT TO THE FACT THAT I TOOK A CLASS FROM ALICIAG AND LEARNED HOW TO EMBOSS HER WONDERFUL CLINKITS

<MAGGIEB> AND OTHER CLASSES FROM OUR OWN MIZ JANET.....

<AliciaG> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatchers.html

<AliciaG> =)

<MAGGIEB> WHO TAUGHT ME WIRING IS FUN

<AliciaG> Samples and Pictures at http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatchers.html

<MAGGIEB> AND I WANTED TO PRACTICE

<MAGGIEB> AND I WANTED TO COMBINE THE DIFFERENT

<MAGGIEB> TEXTURES

<MAGGIEB> OF THE TWO

<MAGGIEB> SO I DEVELOPED ....

<MAGGIEB> SUNCATCHERS!

<MAGGIEB> AND FETISHES!

<MAGGIEB> SO YOU SEE ALICIA AND JANET AT THE REAL EXPERTS!

<AliciaG> alicia who?

<MAGGIEB> SO WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THEM WITH US TONIGHT

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<deb> lol

AliciaG looks behind her.

<Janet> janet who/

<MAGGIEB> FUNNY ALICIIA

<deb> aliciadeb

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<cak> for which we need to thank *you*! and the fact that you're willing to share all this good stuff with us

<kat> yeah, maggie

<MAGGIEB> WELL I JUST SEE IT AS GIVING BACK

<MAGGIEB> I LEARNED IT HERE

<MAGGIEB> VERY DUBIOUS HONOR TONIGHT

<MAGGIEB> OF BEING THE LAST CLASS OF THE CONVENTION

<MAGGIEB> I THINK DEB SAID

<MAGGIEB> BUT NOT THE LEAST

<deb> yes

<deb> no way

<cak> lol--feel on the spot?

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<deb> a lace of honor

<deb> err place of honor

<MAGGIEB> JUST GOING TO HAVE FUN!

<MAGGIEB> DIDN

<MAGGIEB> T

<MAGGIEB> EVEN WRITE IT DOWN TONIGHT

<MAGGIEB> WINGING IT FOR FUN!

<MAGGIEB> SO HVE FUN WITH ME!

<MAGGIEB> GIVE ME QUESTIONS

<MAGGIEB> GIVE ME FEEDBACK!

<MAGGIEB> BRAINSTORM!

<phyl> love feedback

MAGGIEB LOVES BRAINSTORMING!

<MAGGIEB> LIKE IN THE ICON CLASS!

<MAGGIEB> SO .... WHILE MY FAVORITE IS ACTUALLY THE FETISHES

<phyl> i got all kinds of feedback tonight

<AliciaG> Samples and Pictures at http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatchers.html

<phyl> love fetishes

<Cher> links to fetishes?

<MAGGIEB> WE ARE GOING TO DO SUNCATCHERS TONIGHT

<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE BEYOND....

<AliciaG> Maggie's a fetish type girl, if you know what I mean.

<MAGGIEB> 2ND PAGE

<phyl> saw them they are awesone

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<MAGGIEB> YOU WILL SEE SOME OF EACH ON SUNCATCHERS AND BEYOND PAGE

<MAGGIEB> PATE 2

phyl thinks maggie has too many fetishes

<MAGGIEB> PAGE 2

<Janet> i love these!!

<AliciaG> Sample and Pictures at http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/beyond.html

<MAGGIEB> TY ALICIA

<AliciaG> =)

<MAGGIEB> TY JANET

<brenda> hey everyone

<MAGGIEB> SUNCATCHERS ON TOP

<MAGGIEB> AND FETISHES ON BOTTOM

<Kaye> hey brenda

<phyl> as it should be maggie

<MAGGIEB> THE SUNCATCHERS LINK TOGETHER LIKE THE ONE ON TOP LEFT

<deb> I love these

<deb> maggie made this class just for me

<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN PUT AS MANY TOGETHER AS YOU LIKE

<AliciaG> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/beyond.html

<MAGGIEB> ALL ONE HAS TO DO IS ASK

<MAGGIEB> HEH HEH MOST OF THE TIME

<MAGGIEB> RIGHT JANET???

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<brenda> is that clink its and beads?????????

<MAGGIEB> YES!

<MAGGIEB> AND WIRE!

<Janet> right

<brenda> wow

<MAGGIEB> BUT

<MAGGIEB> BEFORE THEY BECOME EITHER A SUNCATCHER OR A FETISH

<AliciaG> woo

<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE SIMPLY GLASS, GLASS BEADS, AND WIRE

<MAGGIEB> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatcherdirections.html

<phyl> mavelous

<MAGGIEB> 1/2 THE FUN IS PICKING OUT WHAT TO USE AND BUYING IT!!

<MAGGIEB> WOOHOO

<MAGGIEB> SHOPPING!

<phyl> would look nice on chain for my ceiling fan

<kat> a stampers favorite passtime

<MAGGIEB> COOL PHYL!

<AliciaG> oh we're on page 3 now

<phyl> then i can reach it

<AliciaG> Samples and Pictures at http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatcherdirections.html

<AliciaG> there we go

<MAGGIEB> YES IF YOU GO TO DIRECTIONS YOU WILL SEE THAT I LAID OUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO USE

<MAGGIEB> TY

<MAGGIEB> FOR THE GLASS

<MAGGIEB> I USE CLINKITS

<MAGGIEB> WHICH ARE LIKE SEA GLASS

<MAGGIEB> AND I LIVE ON A LAKE

<MAGGIEB> BUT BIG PCS OF SEA GLASS IN GOOD SHAPE ARE JUST TOO HARD TO FIND

<MAGGIEB> SO THIS IS BETTER

<kat> more variety of colors too

<MAGGIEB> THE CLINKITS ARE READILY AVAILABLE CUZ ALICIA MAKES THEM!

<MAGGIEB> TRUE KAT!

<phyl> where do these come from

<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE SMOOTH

<AliciaG> I have the scars to prove it

<MAGGIEB> ALICIAG

<MAGGIEB> WWW.ALICIAG.COM

<Janet> Clink its from Alicia G!

<phyl> makes them out of glass?

<MAGGIEB> AND FROSTED SO YOU CAN EMBOSS ON THEM

<Janet> I love dem bitz

<MAGGIEB> YES!

<AliciaG> yes I make them out of glass

<MAGGIEB> JUST FOR US

<phyl> omg

<Kaye> alicia is so sweet

<MAGGIEB> AND SO CHEAP!

<phyl> absolutely

<MAGGIEB> I USE GLASS BEADS

<MAGGIEB> I HAVE NO BEAD SHOP HERE

<AliciaG> hey I"m not cheap

<MAGGIEB> SO I SHOP ONLINE

<AliciaG> =)

<MAGGIEB> LOL ALICIA

<Cher> lol

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<MAGGIEB> ROFL

<Janet> I am. Cheap and easy

<MAGGIEB> I BUY BEADS ALL OVER

<AliciaG> sorry maggie, I"m goofy now

<MAGGIEB> MOST OF THE ONES YOU SEE ARE FROM ALICIA'S BEAD ASST

<Kaye> lol

<MAGGIEB> I PICKED OUT THE BIGGER ONES

<AliciaG> they are from the indian glass assortment, right?

<MAGGIEB> I LIKE BIG TRANSPARENT

<MAGGIEB> INDIAN BEAD

<MAGGIEB> YES

<MAGGIEB> THEY LET THE LIGHT THROUGH WONDERFULLY

<MAGGIEB> OR YOU CAN USE OTHER ONES TOO

<MAGGIEB> I HAVE

<MAGGIEB> USED LAPIS ETC

<MAGGIEB> THE OTHER INGREDIENT IS WIRE

<MAGGIEB> BOTH ALICIA AND JANET SELL WIRE

<MAGGIEB> AND ITS GREAT!

<MAGGIEB> I ONLY USE THE INEXPENSIVE KINDS

<MAGGIEB> NOT SS OR REAL GOLD

<MAGGIEB> SO ITS FUN TO PLAY WITH

<AliciaG> but we could use the fancy stuff if we want

<MAGGIEB> SURE CAN

<MAGGIEB> I WOULD PLAY FIRST WITH CHEAPY FIRST THO

<MAGGIEB> AND JANET IS RUNNING A SALE

<AliciaG> yeah, janet's practice stuff, right?

<MAGGIEB> WHERE SHE WILL SEND YOU THE EQYAL AMT

<Janet> always!

<MAGGIEB> YEP!

<MAGGIEB> SO YOU CAN PRACTIVE

<MAGGIEB> IT ONLY TAKES A LITTLE PRACTICE

<MAGGIEB> SO.......

<Janet> yep, buy silver and i send ya equal foots in practice wire of brass or copper

<Janet> and i think i'd make these of copper on purpose so they'd tarnish cool

<MAGGIEB> YOU WANT TO START WITH YOUR GLASS

<MAGGIEB> REALLY COOL JANET

<MAGGIEB> I LIKE BRASS, COPPER,

<MAGGIEB> 20 GUAGE IS GOOD

<MAGGIEB> SO START WITH YOUR GLASS

<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN USE WHATEVER SIZE YOU WANT

<MAGGIEB> AS YOU SEE

<MAGGIEB> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatcherdirections.html

<MAGGIEB> I MAKE A BUNCH AT A TIME

<AliciaG> Samples and Pictures at http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/beyond.html

<AliciaG> doh

<MAGGIEB> PAGE 3

<MAGGIEB> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatcherdirections.html

<AliciaG> sorry

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<AliciaG> wrong buffer

<MAGGIEB> ITS OKAY

<MAGGIEB> SMILE, HAVE FUN!

<MAGGIEB> LAST CLASS.......

<MAGGIEB> HECK

<MAGGIEB> POUR A GLASS OF WINE!

<MAGGIEB> BEER EVEN JANET!

<deb> lol

<AliciaG> it's the home stretch of the convention, I'm running on fumes here

<deb> hic

<AliciaG> heh

<MAGGIEB> SO YOU TAKE YOUR GLASS CLINKITS

<Janet> my brain has gone fishing

<paperpushe> beer fumes? Alicia?

<MAGGIEB> AND FIRST YOU WANT TO CLEAN THEM

<MAGGIEB> USE SOME ALCOHOL

<MAGGIEB> NOT BEET

<MAGGIEB> BEER

<MAGGIEB> RUBBING ALCOHOL

<Janet> vodka would work

<deb> heh

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<MAGGIEB> WHO WANTS TO WASTE VODKA??

<MAGGIEB> NOT ME

<Cher> vodka always works!

<evey71> just had a look-these are right up my alley-love the look to pieces -LOL

<phyl> Breath on them janet

<MAGGIEB> AND A COTTON BALL

<MAGGIEB> LOL PHYL

<Janet> LOL

<MAGGIEB> AND SWIPE THEM DOWN

<MAGGIEB> AND LET DRY

<MAGGIEB> WILL DRY RIGHT AWAY

<MAGGIEB> THEN

<MAGGIEB> YOU MIGHT WANT TO SWIPE THEM WITH AN ANTI STATIC BAG

<MAGGIEB> THEY MAKE THOSE

<AliciaG> appaloosa art stamps carries one called "faith's magic"

<MAGGIEB> BUT I USE CORNSTARCH IN A LITTLE MUSLIN POUCH TIED OFF WITH A RUBBER BAND

<MAGGIEB> OR ALICIA SAYS YOU CAN SWIPE WITH A DRYER SOFTENER SHEET

<MAGGIEB> THEY ALL WORK

<AliciaG> yeah

<MAGGIEB> BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?

<MAGGIEB> I FORGET SOMETIMES

<AliciaG> me too

<phyl> what?

<MAGGIEB> AND NOT BAD

<AliciaG> and they come out fine

<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE FINE

<MAGGIEB> THEN YOU WANT TO SELECT WHAT TO STAMP

<MAGGIEB> IF YOU ARE GOING TO STAMP ANYTHING

<MAGGIEB> SOMETIMES I DO

<MAGGIEB> SOMETIMES I DONT

<MAGGIEB> YOU DONT WANT TOO DETAILED

<MAGGIEB> UNLESS YOU USE DETAIL POWDER

<MAGGIEB> LOOK AT YOUR STAMPS

<MAGGIEB> AND LOOK FOR A PART YOU MIGHT WANT TO USE

<MAGGIEB> OR BUY SOME TINY ONES!

<MAGGIEB> ITS THE CYBERSTAMPERS RULE OF ACQUISITION!

<MAGGIEB> HEY ANNO!

<phyl> how big are the big clinkits?

<AliciaG> heh

<MAGGIEB> DEPENDS

<MAGGIEB> USE ALL SIZES

<MAGGIEB> FOR THE SUNCATCHERS

<luckyanno> I'm sorry I missed this much!

<AliciaG> in the regular packs the big ones are at most 2" by 2"

<MAGGIEB> I USE THE BIGGER ONES

<luckyanno> erin just got home and I hadda feed her..

<AliciaG> on average

<phyl> got it

<MAGGIEB> I SAVE THE SMALLER ONES FOR FETISHES

<Kaye> what kind of ink

<MAGGIEB> TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA?

<MAGGIEB> THE GREEN ONE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DIRECTIONS PAGE

<MAGGIEB> MEASURES A FULL 4-1/2" FROM TOP TO BOTTOM!

<MAGGIEB> SO PICK A STAMP

<AliciaG> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatcherdirections.html

<MAGGIEB> OR....

<MAGGIEB> USE A COLORBOX STYLUS AND THE DARK FOAM

<MAGGIEB> AND MAKE A LITTLE ONE USING PART OF A BIG ONE

<MAGGIEB> OR......

<MAGGIEB> SOMEONE, I THINK IT WAS CAK?

<MAGGIEB> MENTIONED AT THE VERY FIRST CLASS THAT LONG AGO FRIDAY NIGHT AT 5PM

<cak> (prolly, I have a vivid imagination)

<MAGGIEB> COULD YOU USE A SEA SPONGE?

<MAGGIEB> THAT GREEN ONE USED A SEA SPONGE JUST FOR YOU

<MAGGIEB> TO SEE HOW IT WORKED!

<cak> Wow! thanks!

<MAGGIEB> I USED PART OF THE SPONGE WITH MORE HOLES

<MAGGIEB> AND ONLY PUT IT OVER MAYBER 2/3 THE GLASS

<MAGGIEB> ASYMETRICALLY

<MAGGIEB> YW CAK

<MAGGIEB> AND IT WORKED GREAT

<MAGGIEB> I USE EITHER

<MAGGIEB> VERSAMARK

<MAGGIEB> OR EMBOSSING INK

<MAGGIEB> TOP BOSS

<MAGGIEB> BUT YOU COULD USE PIGMENT I WOULD THINK

<MAGGIEB> ALICIA?

<MAGGIEB> AND STAMP [OR SPONGE] THE IMAGE ON

<Janet> pigment works

<AliciaG> yes

<AliciaG> and you can use crafters the color strips ones

<MAGGIEB> AND THEN OF COURSE POUR ON YOUR EP

<MAGGIEB> COOL

<AliciaG> and use detail clear to keep the color of the ink

<MAGGIEB> TY

<AliciaG> you know the sets that appaloosa sells

<MAGGIEB> K

<MAGGIEB> COOL

<cak> Someone else earlier also mentioned using crumpled up plastic wrap to apply colors/inks too

<AliciaG> they're crafters right?

<MAGGIEB> THATS INTERESTING CAK

<kat> a koosh ball makes a neat design

<MAGGIEB> WILL TRY THAT TOO

<MAGGIEB> NEAT

<MAGGIEB> GOOD LADIES!

<MAGGIEB> I LOVE NEW IDEAS!

<AliciaG> heck you could probably lick the clinkit and as long as it stays wet enough get ep to stick

<MAGGIEB> BRAINSTORMING IS GREAT!

<cak> LOL

<MAGGIEB> LOL ALICIA!

<kat> good one alicia

<Cher> lol

<cak> (good enough to eat?)

<kat> roflol

<MAGGIEB> SO ADD THE EP AND HEAT IT WITH THE GUN

<MAGGIEB> BU

<deb> lol

<MAGGIEB> BUT

<MAGGIEB> DONT TOUCH THE CLINKIT

<MAGGIEB> ITS HOT

<AliciaG> very hot

<MAGGIEB> LAY IT DOWN

<kat> ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!

<MAGGIEB> TO HEAT

<MAGGIEB> AND LET IT COOL

<MAGGIEB> A COUPLE MINUTES

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<MAGGIEB> ONCE IT IS COOL

<MAGGIEB> THEN I WANT TO GET RID OF THE FROST

<MAGGIEB> THAT IT COMES WITH

<MAGGIEB> SO IT WILL REFLECT LIGHT BETTER

<MAGGIEB> SO I USE DIAMOND GLAZE

<kat> didn't think that was possible

<kat> great idea

<MAGGIEB> BUT THE CHEAPER PLAID BRAND

<MAGGIEB> STRAIGHT OUT OF TH BOTTLE

<AliciaG> do you brush it on

<AliciaG> oh

<AliciaG> out of teh spout?

<phyl> plaid brand?

<MAGGIEB> YES

<MAGGIEB> CHEAPER

<phyl> like glass paint?

<MAGGIEB> NO I DONT BRUSH

<MAGGIEB> I DID BUT DIDNT LIKE THE LOOK

<cak> Does that give you a thicker coat Maggie?

<MAGGIEB> I ACTUALLY APPLY THE TIP OF THE BOTTLE TO THE GLASS

<kat> you could probably use future, since they seem to be using it for everything but floors

<MAGGIEB> YES CAK

<MAGGIEB> YES YOU CAN KAT

<Janet> who does floors??

<MAGGIEB> I HAVENT BUT OTHERS HAVE

<MAGGIEB> NOT ME JANET

<kat> no moi!!!!!!!

<Janet> not me

<MAGGIEB> WELL, NOT WAX ANYHOW

<Kaye> what is the plaid stuff

<kat> Dimensional Magic?

<cak> Is the Plaid stuff Liquid Laminate?

<cak> (so many names!)

MAGGIEB IS HUFFING

<MAGGIEB> I RAN TO MY STUDIO!

<MAGGIEB> IT IS

<MAGGIEB> PLAID

<MAGGIEB> ROYAL COAT

<MAGGIEB> DIMENSIONAL MAGIC

<Kaye> cool thanks

<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN GET IT AT MICHAELS

<brenda> ty

<phyl> ty

<MAGGIEB> USE YOUR 40% CPN

<MAGGIEB> LOT CHEAPER

<MAGGIEB> ONLY ABOUT $3

<MAGGIEB> WITHOUT CPM

<MAGGIEB> SO... YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO WASTE THE CPN

<MAGGIEB> WHATEVER

<MAGGIEB> I PUT THE TIP

<MAGGIEB> OF THE BOTTLE

<MAGGIEB> RIGHT ON THE GLASS

<MAGGIEB> AND SLOWLY SQUEEZE

<MAGGIEB> I ALLOW IT TO POOL ONTO THE GLASS

<MAGGIEB> AND GENTLY PUSH IT AROUND

<phyl> how do you hold the glass?

<MAGGIEB> SO IT IS SITTING POOLED ONTOP OF THE GLASS

<MAGGIEB> I DONT

<MAGGIEB> IT IS LAYING DOWN

<phyl> i see

<MAGGIEB> THANKS PHYL

<MAGGIEB> HARD TO REMEMBER IT ALL

<MAGGIEB> TY

<MAGGIEB> SO I PUT THEM ON A CARDBOARD COVERED

<MAGGIEB> WITH FREEZER WRAP

<evey71> Do you use a heat resistant pad? like on the clinkits?

<MAGGIEB> OR ALUMINUM FOIL

<phyl> then turn it over and do the other side?

<MAGGIEB> NO

<MAGGIEB> YOU HAVE TO LET DRY

<MAGGIEB> ONE SIDE

<MAGGIEB> AND THEN THE OTHER

<phyl> yup

<phyl> thanks

<MAGGIEB> I LET SIDE ONE

<MAGGIEB> DRY HOURS

<MAGGIEB> TIL I KNOW DRY

<MAGGIEB> AND THEN TURN OVER AND DO THE OTHER SIDE

<phyl> how do you know dry?

<MAGGIEB> COLOR

<MAGGIEB> IT WILL GO CLEAR

<MAGGIEB> CRYSTAL

<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN TELL

<phyl> when not wet? lol

<MAGGIEB> DONT USE HEAT GUN

<MAGGIEB> IT WILL BUBBLE

<MAGGIEB> I KNOW

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<phyl> will the glass crack? from heat?

<MAGGIEB> NOT GOOD

<MAGGIEB> NO

<kat> experience is a good teacher

<MAGGIEB> THE GLAZE ISNT AS NICE

<MAGGIEB> YEP KAT

<MAGGIEB> SO ONCE YOU HAVE BOTH SIDES DONE

<MAGGIEB> LET REALLY DRY

<MAGGIEB> GOOD

<MAGGIEB> BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO WRAP THESE PUPPIES!

<MAGGIEB> SO.......

<MAGGIEB> NOW YOU PICK WHICH ONES YOU WANT TO WRAP!

<MAGGIEB> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatcherdirections.html

<MAGGIEB> IF I KNOW I WANT 3 PIECE ONE I LAY OUT ALL MY PIECES

<MAGGIEB> EMBOSSED CLINKITS READY TO GO

<MAGGIEB> THE BEADS WHERE I WANT THEM

<MAGGIEB> AND THE WIRE I WANT TO USE

<MAGGIEB> TO SEE THAT I LIKE THEM TOGETHER

<evey71> gosh I can't believe it I have actually found and seen that page ahead of time-I must be getting good

<evey71> d

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<MAGGIEB> GREAT EVERY

<MAGGIEB> EVEY!

<AliciaG> =)

<MAGGIEB> SO HERE WE GO!

<MAGGIEB> MAKING THEM INTO A SUNCATCHER!

<MAGGIEB> JUST REMEMBER SIMPLE, SIMPLE, SIMPLE

<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN GET ELABORATE LATER IF YOU WANT

<MAGGIEB> BUT NOT NECESSARY

<MAGGIEB> AND I AM NOT AS GOOD AS JANET ON WRAPPING

<MAGGIEB> <G>

<MAGGIEB> SO FIRST THING IS GRAB YOUR WIRE

<Janet> au contraire

<MAGGIEB> 20 GUAGE IS GOOD

<AliciaG> you're better than me

<Janet> i love your style

<MAGGIEB> YOU ARE ALL GREAT

<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN USE 22

<MAGGIEB> DONT GET TOO THIN

<MAGGIEB> UNLESS JUST EMBELLISHMENT ON TOP

<MAGGIEB> LIKE MY FETISHES

<MAGGIEB> AND DONT GET TOO THICK

<MAGGIEB> MY FIRST ONE WAS 18 GUAGE

<MAGGIEB> AND HARDER TO WORK WITH

<MAGGIEB> NOT AS MUCH FUN

<MAGGIEB> SO FIRST THING

<MAGGIEB> CUT OFF ABOUT

<MAGGIEB> OHHHHHH

<MAGGIEB> DEPENDS ON SIZE OF GLASS

<MAGGIEB> AND I LIKE TO HAVE EXTRA

<MAGGIEB> AND USE THE CHEAPY KIND

<MAGGIEB> SO MAYBE 15-18"

<phyl> more is better than less

<MAGGIEB> WELL I LIKE TO FINISH WITH SPIRALS ETC

<MAGGIEB> AND THEN YOU CAN

<MAGGIEB> IF YOU RUN OUT YOU CANNOT

<phyl> right o

<Janet> you can always cut your excess if too much. if too short you're up the creek

<MAGGIEB> AND HAVE TO BURY THE END IN THE COLLAR

<MAGGIEB> THATS RIGHT

<MAGGIEB> IF YOU USE EXPENSIVE KIND?

<MAGGIEB> DO A PRACTICE ONE FIRST

<MAGGIEB> AND FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH YOU NEED

<MAGGIEB> AND JANET HAS THAT SPECIAL

<MAGGIEB> SO YOU CAN

<Janet> absolutely

<MAGGIEB> NOW

<MAGGIEB> YOU WANT TO TAKE ONE END

<MAGGIEB> AND FOLD OVER APPROX 2"

<MAGGIEB> THIS IS GOING TO BECOME YOUR HOOK

<MAGGIEB> SEE THE WRAPPING THE HOOK?

<MAGGIEB> PIC?

<AliciaG> yup

<MAGGIEB> FOLD OVER 2"

<phyl> yup

<AliciaG> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/suncatcherdirections.html

<MAGGIEB> AND I CRIMP THE TWO TOGETHER

<MAGGIEB> SO THEY ARE SIDE BY SIDE

<MAGGIEB> THEN YOU TAKE ABOUT 1/2" OR SO

<MAGGIEB> FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE SHORT SIDE

<MAGGIEB> AND PULLING IT OUT STRAIGHT FROM THE OTHER

<MAGGIEB> 90 DEGREES

<MAGGIEB> WRAP IT AROUND THE OTHER SO THAT THEY ARE SECURE

<MAGGIEB> I DO THIS BY HAND

<MAGGIEB> EXCEPT USE PLIERS TO SECURE THE END

<phyl> oo my virgin hands

<MAGGIEB> NOW.......

<MAGGIEB> WHILE YOU SEE ALL THE PICS DOWN BELOW BEING WRAPPED WITH THE HOOK ALREADY DOWN.....FOLDED OVER

<MAGGIEB> DONT DO THAT

<cak> lol

<MAGGIEB> EASIER TO WORK WITH IT WHILE THE LOOP IS STILL JUST STICKING STRAIGHT UP LIKE PIC 1

<AliciaG> hehe

<MAGGIEB> YOU ARE LESS APT TO TWIST THE HOOK

<MAGGIEB> BELIEVE ME I KNOW

<MAGGIEB> I HAVE GOTTEN PRETTY GOOD AT NOT DOING THAT

<MAGGIEB> BUT EASY TO TWIST

<MAGGIEB> SO DONT

<AliciaG> ah, ok

<MAGGIEB> SO NOW YOU HAVE THE START OF A HOOK

<MAGGIEB> LOOK TO THE PICS OF ALL THE DARK BLUE ONES

<MAGGIEB> I PUT ONE TOGETHER THIS AFTERNOON AND SCANNED AS I WENT

<MAGGIEB> SLIDE A BEAD ONTO THE LONG END OF THE WIRE

<MAGGIEB> AND PUT IT BEHIND THE GLASS

<MAGGIEB> YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF THIS IN THE TOP LEFT PIC

<MAGGIEB> THINK SIMPLE!

<MAGGIEB> IT DEPENDS ON THE SHAPE OF THE GLASS BUT JUST THINK SIMPLE!

<MAGGIEB> I RAN THE WIRE DOWN

<phyl> i always do am simple minded

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<MAGGIEB> AND CAUGHT THE CORNER OF THE TRIANGLE

<MAGGIEB> ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SECURE IT

<MAGGIEB> IF YOU LOOK IN PIC #2 IN THE TOP LINE YO SEE THE BACK

<MAGGIEB> AND THE PIC TO ITS RIGHT SHOWS YOU HOW THE FRONT WILL LOOK

<MAGGIEB> REMEMBER THIS IS ONLY 1/2 THE WRAPPING [SINCE WE HAVE TO DO A BOTTOM TOO] SO KEEP IT SIMPLE

<MAGGIEB> FOR LESS LINES

<phyl> good work on that

<phyl> good pictures

<MAGGIEB> TY

<MAGGIEB> WHEN YOU WRAP IT SECURE

<MAGGIEB> MAKE SURE

<MAGGIEB> YOU ARE HEADING BACK UP TO THE TOP

<MAGGIEB> AND THEN WRAP AROUND THE BOTTOM OF THE BEAD

<MAGGIEB> UNDER IT

<MAGGIEB> BETWEEN IT AND GLASS

<MAGGIEB> MAKING A COLLAR

<MAGGIEB> HOW BIG THE COLLAR IS IS YOUR CHOICE

<MAGGIEB> THIS WILL LEAVE YOU WITH A TAIL

<MAGGIEB> THIS IS PIC #1 IN ROW 2

<MAGGIEB> AGAIN YOU ARE SEEING THE BACK HERE

<MAGGIEB> WHEN YOU WRAP YOU WANT TO WRAP TIGHT

<MAGGIEB> BUT NOT ALWAYS AS TICHT AS I LIKE

<MAGGIEB> SO MAKE CRIMPS IN WIRE

<MAGGIEB> I LIKE THOSE ANYHOW

<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE DECORATIVE

<AliciaG> so if there is slack we just make the ziggies

<MAGGIEB> BY JUST TAKING THE PLIER

<MAGGIEB> YES

<MAGGIEB> AND JUST TWISTING

<MAGGIEB> PUT THE NOSE OF THE PLIERS DOWN

<kat> makes it very interesting

<MAGGIEB> AND TWIST

<MAGGIEB> YES I LIKE THEM

<MAGGIEB> AND SERVE A PURPOSE

<Janet> love those kinks

<AliciaG> kewl

<MAGGIEB> NOW PLAY!

<MAGGIEB> WITH THE EXTRA WIRE

<MAGGIEB> I LIKE SPIRALS

<MAGGIEB> ALWAYS HAVE

<MAGGIEB> AND PLAY WITH THEM TOO

<MAGGIEB> IF YOU JUST USE THE ROUND NOSE PLIERS

<MAGGIEB> YOU GET SPIRAL ONES

<MAGGIEB> IF YOU USE THE ONES THAT ARE NEEDLE NOSED WITH FLAT INSISES

<MAGGIEB> INSIDES

<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN GET TRIANGULAR ONES

kat thinks she will be needing jewelry tools

<MAGGIEB> YOU SEE I PLAYED

<phyl> ah neat

<Kaye> just a min

<MAGGIEB> I CRINKLED THE WIRE PLAYING!

<MAGGIEB> OH WELL

<MAGGIEB> PRACTICE

<Kaye> slow down i am taking notes

<MAGGIEB> I NEED IT TOO

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<MAGGIEB> RUNNING OUT OF TIME!

<MAGGIEB> YIKES

<AliciaG> you still have some time

<MAGGIEB> YOU SEE HOW THOSE TWO SPIRALS ON LINE 2 MAKE A DIFF IN LOOKS?

<MAGGIEB> A LITTLE

<MAGGIEB> NOW

<phyl> yup

<MAGGIEB> YOU NEED A BOTTOM

<MAGGIEB> SO TAKE ANOTHER LENGTH THE SAME AS BEFORE

<MAGGIEB> AND START WITH AN EYE

<evey71> you can have some of mine

<MAGGIEB> THERE IS A PIC OF THAT TOO

<MAGGIEB> MINE?

<MAGGIEB> I USE THE END OF A PEN

<MAGGIEB> TO WRAP AROUND

<MAGGIEB> ABOUT 3 OR 4 TIMES

<MAGGIEB> AND CRIMP TOGETHER

<MAGGIEB> TO MAKE AN EYE

<Cher> lol evey

<MAGGIEB> I DO THIS BY HAND

<Cher> i get it!

<MAGGIEB> AND FINISH WITH PLIERS

<phyl> i have four evey

<MAGGIEB> CUT OFF EXTRA IF NECESSARY

<MAGGIEB> THEN TAKE THE WIRE

<MAGGIEB> AND THREAD UP THE GLASS

<MAGGIEB> BEHIND THE OTHER WIRES

<MAGGIEB> ALREADY ON IT

<MAGGIEB> AND THEN SIMPLY WRAP IT THE SAME WAY AS BEFORE

<phyl> on the back?

<MAGGIEB> WRAP AROUND

<MAGGIEB> SAME WAY

<MAGGIEB> AS WITH TOP WIRE

<MAGGIEB> ENDING UP AT THE BOTTOM AGAIN

<MAGGIEB> AND WRAP THE COLLAR SAME WAY

<MAGGIEB> SPIRAL OR WHATEVER SAME WAY

<MAGGIEB> YOU DONT HAVE TO HAVE THE TOP AND BOTTOM

<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN HAVE TOP ONLY IF YOU WANT

<MAGGIEB> TO HANG SINGLE

<MAGGIEB> LIKE ON XMAS TREE

<MAGGIEB> IN FRONTO OF BULB

<MAGGIEB> OH YEAH

<MAGGIEB> YOU NEED TO FOLD OVER YOUR HOOK NOW

<MAGGIEB> WHEW!!!

<MAGGIEB> CAN I BREATHE NOW????

<AliciaG> sure

<AliciaG> =)

<MAGGIEB> QUESTIONS?

<kat> yes you may

<Cher> lol good job maggie!!

<MAGGIEB> DID I GET IT ALL?

<MAGGIEB> LOL

<AliciaG> I think you did!

<kat> great job maggie

<MAGGIEB> YIKES

<Janet> Just for 60 seconds, then I want your critiquing self over in #duelingmodems

<phyl> do you thread up your wire from the second wire up the back of the glass?

<Kaye> the first one we made was the bottom right

<MAGGIEB> K

<deb> awesome class maggie

<AliciaG> maggie wh y don't you give away a couple of mixed packs

<MAGGIEB> YES PHYL, RUNNING IT UNDER THE PREVIOUSLY WIRED ONES ALREADY THERE

<phyl> thanks

<MAGGIEB> YW

<evey71> Could these be hung outside temperate zone. I hang lots of suncatchers around my garden and they look wonderful these would too ?

<MAGGIEB> KAYE I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN

<Cher> and maybe some clay pieces that we can use this wire on?!!!?

<Janet> Great class, Maggie, these are sooo coool

<Janet> Clay pieces! from Alicia G!

<Cher> ;-)

<MAGGIEB> I WOULDNT HESITATE TO HANG OUT

<phyl> very nice job maggie

<MAGGIEB> BUT WOULD WIRE THEM TO WHATEVER SO DIDNT BLOW OFF

Cher is nodding at janet!

<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE GLASS

<MAGGIEB> WOULD BREAK

<Kaye> the hook one was the bottom of a chain of suncatchers, right

<brenda> loved the class maggie

<AliciaG> ok, I just put everybody's name into a bowl, I"m gonna pick two prizes ok maggie?

<MAGGIEB> YES CHER

<brenda> yippie prezszies

<phyl> yahoo

<MAGGIEB> I AM GOING TO WIRE CLAYFULS TOO!

<MAGGIEB> SURE BRENDA!!

<Cher> yeah!!!

<AliciaG> ok, I just picked two people out

<brenda> mememe

<phyl> and me me me

<AliciaG> the winners of a mixed pack from me are> glitrbug and anno!

<Kaye> yeag

<phyl> wohoo girls

<kat> wtg glitrbug and anno

<Kaye> yeah

<brenda> yippie anno and glttrbug

<deb> yeah

<Cher> yay gliter and anno!

<cak> Yay!

<deb> thanks maggie

<paperpushe> wtg!!!

<kat> great class maggie

<mel> congrats glitrbug and anno

<AliciaG> of course if they're awake

<kat> sorry to see convention end

<MAGGIEB> THE HOOK GOES ON THE TOP AND THE EYE ON THE BOTTOM AND YOU HOOK ANOTHER CATCHER INTO THE PREVIOUS EYE

<Janet> woo hoo!

<mel> yes... thanks Maggie

<AliciaG> maggie where can we email you if we have questions?

<gale> I'll take anno's prize. rofl! She isn't here

<MAGGIEB> KAYE DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

<cak> (good try gale)

<gale> I'll give it to her-I promise. ;)

<MAGGIEB> MAGGIEB@DM.NET OR BURKELL@ADELPHIA.NET

<paperpushe> thanks maggie!

<MAGGIEB> YW

<gale> Thanks maggie-great class!

<MAGGIEB> AND THANKS FOR COMING!

<Cher> awesome direction maggie!!

<MAGGIEB> HAVE FUN

<AliciaG> thanks a bunch maggie!

<MAGGIEB> TY

<cak> Thank you soo much Maggie!

<MAGGIEB> YOU GUYS ARE GREAT!

<MAGGIEB> GO TO CRITIQUE!

<MAGGIEB> WHERE IS THAT?

<Kaye> thanks maggie can't wait to try this out

<MAGGIEB> SORRY I RAN OVER

<cak> #duelingmodems

<MAGGIEB> GREAT KAYE!

<Janet> No problemo. Now y'all come over and help us critique.

<MAGGIEB> HAVE FUN WITH THEM!

<cak> See you all there

<evey71> thanks for the ideas Maggie stunning work :)

<AliciaG> thank you maggie!!

<cak> me too--see you soon!

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