<LiBsTeR> lib goes to set between Janet and Brenda-mom
<brenda> janet make lib show you what she does with stamps and needle punch
<MaggieB> alicia you look soooo happy tonight!
<LiBsTeR> http://www.angelfire.com/ct2/punchneedle/rubberstamppunch.html
<MaggieB> what a big smile!
<AliciaG> thanks~!
<Janet> I saw that. That's just awesome.
<AliciaG> =(H)
<MaggieB> and waving!
<MaggieB> wow
<Janet> Alicia, how's the tooth?
<Janet> Hi, Magnolia
<magnolia> hi there
<AliciaG> well it was sore, but I took something, so it's good now!
<LiBsTeR> Alicia has hurt tooth?
<Janet> yay!
<MaggieB> LOL
<LiBsTeR> oh, good!!!
<AliciaG> I had a root canal this morning
<LiBsTeR> poor baby
<MaggieB> oh finally!
<MaggieB> oh no lib that is good
<LiBsTeR> {{{{{{{{{{{ hug }}}}}}}}}}}}}}
<MaggieB> means absess is gone
<MaggieB> woohoo
<AliciaG> yeah, yup, I should be back to my abnormal self in no time
<LiBsTeR> yes, but root canal is surgery
<LiBsTeR> serious stuff
<MaggieB> doesnt hurt
<LiBsTeR> means lotsa sympathy
<MaggieB> not my dentist anyhow
<MaggieB> but she is smiling lib!
<LiBsTeR> good!
<AliciaG> actually I didn't take the novicaine that well this morning
<Janet> I love that fabric goddess
<MaggieB> heh heh
<Kaye> hello all
<MaggieB> ty janet
<Kaye> sorry i am late
<MaggieB> had to make something for the page
<MaggieB> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/stampfabric.html
<Janet> and her pasties. I love them pasties!
<AliciaG> but anyway, we're not here to talk about me, we're here to talk about your fantastic doll
<MAGGIEB> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/stampfabric.html
<MAGGIEB> THAT THE URL BUT YOU ARENT GETTING MUCH THERE
<MomCat> cak
<MAGGIEB> I MADE A STUDIO GODDESS
<LiBsTeR> hi mel
<MAGGIEB> TO SHOW YOU JUST ONE THING YOU CAN DO WITH STAMPING AND PAINTING ON FABRIC
<mel> hi LiBsTeR :)
<MAGGIEB> SO HAUL OUT YOUR PENCILS AND PAPER
<MAGGIEB> OR JUST LOG
<MAGGIEB> ITS EASER
<MAGGIEB> EASIER
<MAGGIEB> AND THINK OF QUESTIONS.....
<MAGGIEB> AND I WILL GIVE YOU BUNCHES OF INFO
<kat> I saw the goddess up close and personal and she is great
AFKrave logs.... I hope
<MAGGIEB> TY KAT
<MAGGIEB> SHE IS FUN
<MAGGIEB> http://www.dm.net/~maggieb/stampfabric.html
<AliciaG> lucky you kat
<MAGGIEB> SHE IS PAINTED, STAMPED, WITH DIFFERENT KINDS OF INK AND PAINT
<MAGGIEB> AND WITH THAT LET ME STATE THAT TONIGHT I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT INKS AND PAINTS
<MAGGIEB> NOT DYES
<MAGGIEB> I DONT DO DYES
<MAGGIEB> AND YOU PROBABLY WONT EITHER
<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE WAY HARDER
<LiBsTeR> goodie- wanna know inks!!!!
<MAGGIEB> AND THEY ARE MORE DANGEROUS
<MAGGIEB> LIKE IF YOU PUT DYES IN AN AIR BRUSH?
<MAGGIEB> YOU BETTER BE USING A REALLY GOOD VENTILATING MASK
<MAGGIEB> CUZ DYES BREAK DOWN INTO TINY LITTLE MOLECULES AND GO IN YOUR LUNGS
<MAGGIEB> PAINT DOESNT
<MAGGIEB> AND INKS ARE ON PADS SO DONT EITHER
<MAGGIEB> SAFER
<MAGGIEB> AND EASIER
<AliciaG> ah
<LiBsTeR> wow
<MAGGIEB> SO WE WILL TALK PAINTS AND INKS
<Janet> (besides, I got ink pads<g>)
<MAGGIEB> K?
<MAGGIEB> COOL
<LiBsTeR> k
<MAGGIEB> THAT WORKS JANET
<MAGGIEB> NOW IF THEY ARE THE RIGHT ONES....
cindyc thinks maggie talks fast....
<MAGGIEB> FIRST OFF
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<Janet> well, actually that's the question, which is the right ones?
<MAGGIEB> YEARS OF HOSTING CHATS
<MAGGIEB> PAYS OFF
<MAGGIEB> WILL GET TO THAT JANET
<MAGGIEB> ON THE LISGT
<MAGGIEB> LIST
<MAGGIEB> OKAY
<MAGGIEB> SO IF YOUR PIECE IS NEVER EVER GOING TO BE WASHED OR CLEANED
<MAGGIEB> WITH WATER OR SOLVENT
<MAGGIEB> LIKE DRY CLEANED
<MAGGIEB> THEN YOU DONT HAVE TO BE CONCERNED WITH THIS CLASS AT ALL
<MAGGIEB> USE WHATEVER
<MAGGIEB> NOW
<MAGGIEB> I WOULDNT USE OIL BASED
<MAGGIEB> BUT OTHER THAN THAT YOU COULD USE WHATEVER GAVE YOU THE LOOK YOU WANT
<MAGGIEB> AND YOU WANTED TO WORK WITH
<MAGGIEB> LIKE MY ART QUILTS
<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE NOT CLEANED WITH WATER OR SOLVENTS
<MAGGIEB> EVER
<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE COVERED WITH A CLEAN SCREEN AND VACUUMED WITH A LOW POWER VACUUM
<MAGGIEB> SO I COULD REALLY USE WHATEVER I WANT
<MAGGIEB> BUT
<MAGGIEB> IF
<MAGGIEB> YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE IT CAN BE CLEANED
<MAGGIEB> THEN THIS IS THE CLASS FOR YOU
<MAGGIEB> !!!
<MAGGIEB> FIRST
<MAGGIEB> YOU WANT TO SELECT YOUR FABRIC
<kat> great for clothing
<MAGGIEB> YES!
<AliciaG> ah
<MAGGIEB> NATURAL FABRICS WILL WORK BEST
<MAGGIEB> LIKE 100% COTTON, SILK, ETC
<MAGGIEB> 100% COTTON WORKS BEST
<Keribou> wash them before you stamp in case they shrink?
<MAGGIEB> YOU WANT TO SELECT A NICE TIGHT WEAVE
<AliciaG> can we use scraps from clothes that have stains
<MAGGIEB> COMING TO THAT
<MAGGIEB> YES
<MAGGIEB> GOOD COVERUP
<MAGGIEB> THE MORE THREADS PER INCH THE BETTER
<cak> how about protein-based fabric, like wool?
<MAGGIEB> CUZ IT WILL STAMP BETTER
<MAGGIEB> CUZ FLATTER AND TIGHTER SURFACE
<cak> (nevermind, we aren't dying are we?)
<MAGGIEB> LIKE DIFFERENCE IN WATERCOLOR PAPERS
<AFKrave> (great use for old bed linens)
<MAGGIEB> NO NOT DYING
<MAGGIEB> OR DYEING EITHER
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<MAGGIEB> SO IF BUYING MUSLIN?
<cak> lol (I sure hope not)
<MAGGIEB> NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE
<paperpushe> lol maggie
<AliciaG> ah
<MAGGIEB> THE NEXT TIME IN YOUR FABRIC STORE
<MAGGIEB> BETWEEN THE CHEAPY ONE AND THE BEST ONE
<pacific> wool is naturally waterproof...don't know if it would take the ink well...
<MAGGIEB> LOT MORE THREADS PER INCH
<MAGGIEB> SHOULD PACICIF
<MAGGIEB> AND THE MORE THREADS?
<MAGGIEB> THE BETTER RESULTS
<MAGGIEB> SO YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE
AFKrave eyeballs the tight weave duvet cover...
<MAGGIEB> $$ OR QUALITY
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<LiBsTeR> LOL
<MAGGIEB> OK
<MAGGIEB> NOW YES YOU DO WANT TO WASH THE FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> IF IT IS GOING TO BE WASHED EVENTUALLY
<MAGGIEB> YOU WANT TO NOT ONLY SHRINK IT
<MAGGIEB> BUT IT WILL TAKE THE SIZING FROM MFG IT OUT
<MAGGIEB> WHICH WILL HELP THE PAINT/INK ADHERE
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN ADD AN ADDITIVE IF YOU HAVE IT CALLED SYNTHRAPOL
<MAGGIEB> WHICH IS WHAT DYERS USE
<Janet> oh! sheets! expensive sheets on clearance sale!
<MAGGIEB> TO MAKE SURE ALL THE SIZING AND OILS ARE OUT OF THE FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> THOSE WOULD STAMP WONDERFULLY JANET
<MAGGIEB> AND YOU CAN MAKE THEM INTO CURTAINS TOO!
<kat> how about vinegar
<Janet> high thread count, natural fabric. and cheap on clearance!
<MAGGIEB> NEVER USED IT KAT
<MAGGIEB> WONT HURT
<MAGGIEB> BUT DONT REALLY NEED IT
<MAGGIEB> YES MAAM JANET!
<MAGGIEB> SO WHAT PAINTS OR INKS SHOULD YOU USE????
<MAGGIEB> WELL.....
Janet eyes the sheets on the bed
<MAGGIEB> I DID SOME RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE UP TO DATE
<MAGGIEB> AND TALKED TO SOME COMPANIES ON THE PHONE
<LiBsTeR> lib eyes Janet's sheets, too
Janet eyes the pharmacist's dress shirts
<MAGGIEB> NOW
<kat> better Janet's sheets that ours
<MAGGIEB> VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT
<Janet> lol
<LiBsTeR> amen!
<Janet> okay.
<MAGGIEB> WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO USE
<MAGGIEB> HEATSET IT!!
<MAGGIEB> WHEN DRY
<MAGGIEB> AND DONT LAUNDER FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN STAND IT!
<MAGGIEB> 10 DAYS IS GOOD
<MAGGIEB> HEATSET HEATSET HEATSET
<AliciaG> heh
<MAGGIEB> VERY IMPORTANT
<MAGGIEB> AND I WILL PROBABLY SAY THAT MORE THAN ONCE
<MAGGIEB> TONIGHT
<MAGGIEB> CUZ IF YOU DONT?
<LiBsTeR> wash fabric, stamp, heat set - don't wash for at least 10 days- is that right?
<MAGGIEB> YOUR HARD WORK WILL GO DOWN THE DRAIN
<Janet> you're saying if I stamp a shirt to wear the same day I stamp it, to not spill lunch on it?
<MAGGIEB> YES
<MAGGIEB> YES
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<MAGGIEB> AT LEAST DONT WASH IT RIGHT AWAY JANET
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<MAGGIEB> SO
<MAGGIEB> THESE ARE SOME PRODUCTS YOU CAN USE
<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE NOT ALL THE PRODUCTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE
<MAGGIEB> THIS IS ONLY AN HOUR CLASS!
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<LiBsTeR> lol
<MAGGIEB> GET IN THE HABIT OF READING LABELS!
<MAGGIEB> IT SHOULD TELL YOU IF YOU CAN USE IT ON FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> OR WHAT IT IS MADE OF
<MAGGIEB> AND I WILL GIVE YOU A WORKAROUND LATER IN CLASS ANYHOW.....
<MAGGIEB> SO STAY TUNED!
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<MAGGIEB> OK
<MAGGIEB> NOW LETS TALK STAMP PADS
<MAGGIEB> ALREADY INKED READY TO USE
<MAGGIEB> FOR STAMPING
<LiBsTeR> woo hoo!!
<MAGGIEB> TSUKINEDO MAKES FABRICO IN 32 COLORS AND 2 MULTI PADS
<MAGGIEB> ALL MADE FOR FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> COLORBOX CRAFTERS INK IS OKAY FOR FABRIC [STAMPED THE GODDESS'S FACE WITH THE BLACK]
<MAGGIEB> AND IT COMES IN 32 COLORS AND BUNCH OF MULTIS
MotF cathy sees her hubby bank book going...down...down...down
<MAGGIEB> DR. PH MARTIN INK PAK IS GOING TO BE BRAND NEW
<AliciaG> woo
<AliciaG> I love that ink!
<MAGGIEB> AND DUE OUT THEY TELL ME IN THE 1ST QTR OF 2002
<AliciaG> they're coming out with new colors
<AliciaG> ?
<MAGGIEB> SO WATCH FOR THOSE
<MAGGIEB> 12 COLORS
<MotF> Question please.
<AliciaG> can we use the old ones?
<Janet> Brilliance??
<MAGGIEB> DONT KNOW ABOUT BRILLIANCE
<MAGGIEB> ONLY IF IT SAYS IT IS FOR FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> ONLY IF
<Janet> it's permanent ink, in theory that should work?
<MAGGIEB> OLD ONES ALICIA?
<MAGGIEB> WHICH?
<AliciaG> the ones out now
<MAGGIEB> NO
<MAGGIEB> NOT FOR FABRIC
<Janet> says tissue and wood
<AliciaG> oh
<MotF> Colorbox Ink = Colorbox Wheel Inks Pads?
<AliciaG> ok
<MAGGIEB> THEN NOT FOR FABRIC JANET
<MAGGIEB> NO
<MAGGIEB> NOT THOSE MOTF
<Janet> what will happen?
<MAGGIEB> THEY WILL WASH OUT
<MAGGIEB> WONT BOND WITH THE FABRIC
<MotF> 'k, thanks.. I picked up the wrong colorbox :(
<MAGGIEB> AND WILL WASH OUT
<Janet> they don't wash out when I use 'em for watercoloring
<MAGGIEB> CRAFTERS INK BY COLORBOX
<Janet> but paper is different than fabric?
<MAGGIEB> ON PAPER???
<MAGGIEB> YES!
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<Janet> okya
<MAGGIEB> VERY
<paperpushe> did I hear paper?
<MAGGIEB> ANOTHER COMPANY IS RANGER
<Janet> LOL I was just thinking of paper as really stiff cotton
<MAGGIEB> AND THE ONLY ONE THEY MAKE THAT IS FOR FABRIC IS ACTUALLY
<MAGGIEB> LOL JANET
<LiBsTeR> lol
<MAGGIEB> A DAUBER BOTTLE
<MAGGIEB> IT COMES IN 12 COLORS TOO
<MAGGIEB> NOW.....
<MAGGIEB> REMEMBER THAT THE REINKERS FOR THESE WILL WORK TOO!
<MAGGIEB> CUZ ITS THE INK THAT YOU ARE USING
<Janet> oh! so i could paint with reinkers?
<MAGGIEB> YES!
<LiBsTeR> can use the reinkers to paint with?
<LiBsTeR> LOL Janet!
<MAGGIEB> OR PUT IN CONTAINER AND WATER DOWN
<MAGGIEB> BUT
<MAGGIEB> IF I WERE WATERING DOWN?
<MAGGIEB> I WOULDNT USE WATER
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN BUT BETTER YET?
<Janet> OH. How about Tria alcohol-based inks? when I accidentally spill them on pants they never wash out.
<MAGGIEB> USE FABRIC MEDIUM TO "WATER" IT DOWN
<MAGGIEB> NO
<MAGGIEB> OIL BASED
<MAGGIEB> CAN EVENTUALLY EAT THE FABRIC
<Janet> ah okay
<MAGGIEB> I WOULDNT USE THEM
<MAGGIEB> BUT YOU CAN STIPPLE
<Janet> so eventually my tria stained pants will just have holes.
<AliciaG> ah
<MAGGIEB> ETC WITH THE PADS
<MAGGIEB> MIGHT
<LiBsTeR> like the fabric medium that you can get at JoAnn's for 99¢ ?
<MAGGIEB> MIGHT NOT
<MAGGIEB> YES
<MAGGIEB> ITS CHEAP
<MAGGIEB> AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE SAFE
<MotF> that stuff is great
<MAGGIEB> A LITTLE WATER IS OKAY
<MAGGIEB> BUT FABRIC MEDIUM IS BETTER
<MAGGIEB> SAFER
<Janet> I have another question.
<MAGGIEB> K
<MAGGIEB> SHOOT
<MAGGIEB> OH OH
<Janet> at some point I bout a big bottle of Jacquard No Flow. It looked like something I NEEDED. What do I use it for?
MotF bang
<MAGGIEB> SHE IS TYPING TOO LONG
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<Janet> LOL
<Janet> (I had to find the bottle to tell the name of the stuff
<MAGGIEB> MOST JACQUARD ARE OK FOR FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> THAT IS WHAT THEY DO
<paperpushe> Lumiere and Neopaque? How bout those?
<LiBsTeR> mostly for silk, right?
<MAGGIEB> IS THAT A RESIST JANET?
<MAGGIEB> GETTING TO PAINTS NEXT
<MAGGIEB> JANET?
<Janet> says antifusant
<MAGGIEB> RESIST OR PAINT?
<MAGGIEB> ANTIFUSANT?
<cak> I think it's a treatment to keep thin "paints" from feathering?
<MAGGIEB> NOT SURE JANET
<MAGGIEB> MAYBE
<LiBsTeR> I think it is a resist
<MAGGIEB> CHECK THEIR SITE JANET
<MAGGIEB> GOOD SIGHT
<MAGGIEB> SITE
<LiBsTeR> supposed to stop paints from flowing into each other
<MAGGIEB> IT MIGHT BE RESIST
<MAGGIEB> WHICH IS COOL TO WORK WITH
<Janet> it says used to inhibit the spreading of dyes on fabric. particularly useful for drawing or writing with dye filled felt tip markers or fabric pens on silk. But I don't have a clue.
<MAGGIEB> CHECK IT OUT JANET AND LET US KNOW K?
<MAGGIEB> RESIST
<Janet> yeah
<MAGGIEB> THAT WOULD INHIBIT ONE INK OR PAINT FROM FLOWING INTO ANOTHER ONE
<MAGGIEB> LIKE BATIK
<MAGGIEB> THAT WOULD BE COOL
<MAGGIEB> PLAY WITH IT!
<Janet> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
<LiBsTeR> <--------- I win!
<MAGGIEB> JANET YOU HAVE EVERYTHING!!
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<Janet> I knew I bought it for a reason. I just couldn't remember the reason.
<LiBsTeR> LOL
<MAGGIEB> WELL PLAY WITH IT OR SEND IT TO ME!
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<MAGGIEB> NOW PAINTS
<MAGGIEB> THE VERY FIRST ONE ON MY LIST
<MAGGIEB> IS FROM JACQUARDPRODUCTS.COM
<MAGGIEB> OF ALL PLACES!
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<Janet> lol
<MotF> we are making a transcript, right?
<Janet> we are
<MAGGIEB> YES
<Janet> (write cak@dm.net for it)
<paperpushe> good thing lol
<MAGGIEB> AND WILL POST IT ON MY CLASS SITE TOO
<cak> I'm logging (as are alot of others)
<MAGGIEB> FOR DOWNLOAD
<Kaye> jacquard makes the best stuff
<MAGGIEB> JACQUARD MAKES QUALITY PRODUCTS FOR A LONG TIME
<MAGGIEB> LIKE TEXTILE COLORS
<MotF> thanks
<MAGGIEB> NEOPAQUE
<MAGGIEB> YW MOTF
<MAGGIEB> AND LUMIERE!!!!
<MAGGIEB> YES LUMIERE!
<Janet> Lumiere!!
<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE OK FOR FABRICS!
<AliciaG> great
<Janet> woo hoo!
<paperpushe> yeah!!!
<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE KINK OF THICK AND YOU CAN USE THEM THAT WAY TO STAMP
<MAGGIEB> OK
<Kaye> lumiere are awesome on fabrics
<MAGGIEB> LIKE THE LEGS ON MY DOLL THAT ARE TEXT COVERED?
<LiBsTeR> woo hoo!
<Janet> (I also bought textile color, I had big fabric plans at the same time I had money, apparently. wish I could remember)
<MAGGIEB> I BRUSHED ON LUMIERE BRASS ONTO A STAMP AND STAMPED IT THAT WAY!
<MAGGIEB> LOL JANET
<LiBsTeR> libster does happy dance just ordered lumieres from Jhone!
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN USE A FABRIC BRUSH
<MAGGIEB> OR A COSMETIC SPONGE
<MAGGIEB> FOAM BRUSH
<MAGGIEB> WHATEVER YOUR HAVE
<MAGGIEB> NOW
<MAGGIEB> BRUSHES
<MAGGIEB> FOR FABRICS
<MAGGIEB> THEY DO ACTUALLY MAKE FABRIC BRUSHES
<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE VERY STIFF BRISTLES
<MAGGIEB> AND GOOD ART SUPPLY STORES WILL HAVE THEM
<Janet> why stiff?
<MAGGIEB> SO YOU CAN KIND OF SCRUB THE COLOR INTO THE FABRIC IF YOU WANT TO
<MAGGIEB> BUT IN MY TOWN
<MAGGIEB> YOU CANNOT FIND THEM
<LiBsTeR> how do you hold your fabric still, Maggie?
<MAGGIEB> TAPE IT DOWN
<MAGGIEB> WORKS
<LiBsTeR> k
<MAGGIEB> IF WIGGLING
<Janet> I had an embroidery hoop. Once. Somewhere.
<MAGGIEB> I CANNOT FIND BRUSHES HERE THAT SAY FOR FABRIC
<LiBsTeR> libster smacks her fabric if it wiggles
<MAGGIEB> OH DONT BOTHER WITH A HOOP
<MAGGIEB> JUST TAPE WITH MASKING TAPE
<MAGGIEB> WORKS GOOD
<MAGGIEB> LOL LIB
<Janet> I know where my masking tape is!!
<MAGGIEB> BUT
<MAGGIEB> AT MICHAELS
<Kaye> or freezer paper ironed onto back side of fabric
<MAGGIEB> I CAN FIND STIFF WHITE BRISTLED BRUSHES THAT WHILE THEY DO NOT SAY FABRIC
<kat> great idea kaye
<MAGGIEB> THAT WORKS KAYE
<LiBsTeR> right0 freezer paper what Lib uses
<AliciaG> this is so cool
<MAGGIEB> AND IF DOING SAY A T-SHIRT?
<Janet> OhI I've done the freezer paper thing. You can run the fabric throught he laser printer that way.
<Janet> (but can't wash it)
<MAGGIEB> PUT CARDBOARD IN BETWEEN THE LAYERS
<MAGGIEB> YES JANET YOU CAN
<LiBsTeR> right, cardboard VERY important
<MAGGIEB> SO MOVING ON
<MAGGIEB> VERSATEX
<MAGGIEB> MAKES GOOD FABRIC PAINT
<LiBsTeR> If you use bubble jet set, you can print on fabric with printer and it is washable
<MAGGIEB> AND GOOD AIR BRUSH PAINT FOR FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> HAVE YOU DONE IT LIB?
<MAGGIEB> BUBBLE JET SET?
<LiBsTeR> not yet, have the stuff
<MAGGIEB> WHAT IS IT?
<LiBsTeR> no fabric here
<LiBsTeR> it is liquid
<LiBsTeR> you soak the fabric in it
<MAGGIEB> AND PUT OVER THE PIC?
<MAGGIEB> BEFORE?
<LiBsTeR> then cut to size,
<LiBsTeR> iron to freezer paper
<LiBsTeR> print through printer,
<LiBsTeR> and there it is
<MAGGIEB> SO YOU PUT IT ON THE FABRIC FIRST
<LiBsTeR> you soak the fabric in it
<MAGGIEB> MAKES IT RECEPTIVE TO THE PRINTER INK
<MAGGIEB> K
<LiBsTeR> right
<MAGGIEB> YES A MEDIUM OF SORTS
<LiBsTeR> es=xactly
<MAGGIEB> NEXT WE HAVE SETACOLOR BY PEBEO
<MAGGIEB> VERY GOOD COMPANY
<MAGGIEB> ANOTHER ONE IS DEKA
<MAGGIEB> WHO MAKES PERMANENT FABRIC PAINTS
<MAGGIEB> AND DEKA SILK PAINT
<MAGGIEB> WHICH CAN BE USED ON COTTON TOO
<MAGGIEB> NOT JUST SILK
<MAGGIEB> SILK PAINT GIVES YOU AVERY SOFT LOOK
<MAGGIEB> NOW, ZIM MAKES A FABRIC PAINT.......
<MAGGIEB> BUT NOTE
<MAGGIEB> THIS IS NOT THE ZIM INK
<MAGGIEB> THIS IS ZIM FABRIC PAINT
<MAGGIEB> NOT YOUR PERMANENT INK!!
<MAGGIEB> RANGER MAKES RUBBER STAMP FABRIC PAINT
<MAGGIEB> THESE ARE ALL MADE FOR FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD
<MAGGIEB> THAT LUNA LIGHTS WILL NOT WASH OUT OF FABRIC ONCE SET BUT IT IS NOT MADE FOR THAT
<MAGGIEB> AND IF YOU WANT TO TRY IT?
<MAGGIEB> GO FOR IT
<MAGGIEB> BUT DO A TEST FIRST
<MAGGIEB> BUT
<MAGGIEB> BUT
<MAGGIEB> BUT
<MAGGIEB> IF THERE IS A COLOR YOU WANT?
<MAGGIEB> AND YOU JUST CANNOT FIND IT IN FABRIC PAINT
<MAGGIEB> HERE IS THE WORKAROUND........
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN MAKE ANY ACRYLIC BASES PAINT
<MAGGIEB> INTO FABRIC PAINT
<MAGGIEB> BY ADDING
<MAGGIEB> FABRIC MEDIUM!!!!
<MAGGIEB> COOL HUH?
<paperpushe> Cool
<AliciaG> and it will work
<MAGGIEB> YES
<MAGGIEB> SHOULD
<AliciaG> wow
<MAGGIEB> ALWAYS HAS FOR ME
<LiBsTeR> have you tried luna lights???
<Janet> wow
<MAGGIEB> NOW ARE YOU AFRAID TO STAMP RIGHT ON THE FABRIC?
<LiBsTeR> nope
<MAGGIEB> I HAVE NOT TRIED THIS
<MAGGIEB> BUT RANGER MAKES IRON ON FABRIC TRANSFER INK!
<MotF> nope.. I'm there already <G>
<MAGGIEB> THEY ARE PADS
<LiBsTeR> I was wondering how thick you make the acrylic with medium for stamping- I have always used that for painting
<MotF> but I'm using my colorwheel pads.. this is a practice.
<MAGGIEB> YOU STAMP ON PAPER AND IRION ON TO FABRIC ONCE DRY
<MAGGIEB> BUT
<LiBsTeR> there is always a but, lib thinks
<MAGGIEB> SHOULD BE ON THE MEDIUM BOTTLE LIB
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<MAGGIEB> BUT YOU DONT THIN VERY MUCH
<MAGGIEB> THIS BUT IS
<MAGGIEB> WHEN YOU HEAT TRANSFER YOU USUALLY DO NOT GET AS BRILLIANT OF COLORS
<MAGGIEB> SO TRADE OFF
<MAGGIEB> NOW....
<MAGGIEB> IN MY RESEARCH I FOUND
<MAGGIEB> A RECIPE
<MAGGIEB> FOR MAKING BLOCK PRINTING INK FOR FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> HAVE NOT HAD THE TIME [DISCLAIMER HERE LOL] TO TRY IT
<MAGGIEB> BUT I WANT TO PASS THE INFO TO YOU!
<MAGGIEB> 5 TABLESPOONS TURPENTINE
<MAGGIEB> 2 TABLESPOONS VINEGAR
<MAGGIEB> 1 TABLESPPON WINTERGREEN OIL
<MAGGIEB> 1 TABLESPOON DISHWASHING LIQUID
<MAGGIEB> POUR THOSE IN A BOTTLE AND SHAKE WELL
<MAGGIEB> 8 OUNCE BOTTLE IT SAYS
<LiBsTeR> and BOOM!!
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<LiBsTeR> LOL
<MAGGIEB> ADD OIL PAINT PIGMENTS UNTIL YOU GET A THICK CREAMY CONSITENCY
<MAGGIEB> AND NOW YOU JUST USE!
raven remembers a malatov coctail recipe that sounds an aweful lot like that! LOL!
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN USE ANY OF THE PAINTS OR INKS
<LiBsTeR> how do you use this>
<MAGGIEB> DTP
<MAGGIEB> USING BRUSHES, SPONGES, ETC
<MAGGIEB> AND EXPERIMENT
<MAGGIEB> CUZ
paperpusher worries that Raven probably knows what she is talking about
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<kat> lol
<LiBsTeR> lib scared of Raven now
<MAGGIEB> IF YOU WET YOUR FABRIC PRIOR TO PAINTING ON IT
<raven> will this recipe be on your website later, Maggie?
<MAGGIEB> IT WILL LOOK ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU DID IT DRY
<MAGGIEB> YES RAVEN
<MAGGIEB> AND
<raven> ty
<MAGGIEB> REMEMBER LESS IS MORE
<MAGGIEB> PUT ONLY A LITTLE AT A TIME
<MAGGIEB> THEY REFER TO THE HAND OF THE FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> OF PAINTED FABRIC HAVING A NICE HAND
<raven> finally a good use for my oil paint stash
<MAGGIEB> THIS REFERS TO IT REMAINING SOFT
<MAGGIEB> LET ME KNOW HOW IT WORKS OUT RAVEN
<LiBsTeR> so oil paint pigment is just oil paint in a tube??
<MAGGIEB> I DONT KNOW WHY IT SAYS OIL PAINT PIGMENTS
<MAGGIEB> IT SAYS PIGMENTS
<MAGGIEB> OIL PAINT PIGMENTS
<MotF> question.. I used a small stamp and need to color in parts.. will you tell how to do that trick later, maggie?
<MAGGIEB> SURE
<MAGGIEB> YOU USE EITHER A STYLUS TOOL FROM COLORBOX
<MAGGIEB> OR A Q TIP
<MAGGIEB> OR A COSMETIC SPONGE
<MAGGIEB> BUT LESS IS MORE
<MAGGIEB> THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY
<LiBsTeR> is oil paint pigments just oil paint in a tube??
<MAGGIEB> BEFORE I FORGET
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE
<MAGGIEB> BUT WHEN PAINTING WITH PAINT OR INK, ESP PAINT USE A LITTLE AT A TIME
<MAGGIEB> GOOD QUESTION LIB
<MAGGIEB> CAN YOU FIND OUT FOR US AND REPORT BACK ON THE LIST?
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<LiBsTeR> LOL
<MAGGIEB> I AM NOT A PAINTER
<LiBsTeR> auggh!
<MAGGIEB> SORRY
<MAGGIEB> BUT ANSWER IS OUT THERE
<MAGGIEB> YOUR JOB TO FIND IT
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<MAGGIEB> K?
<MAGGIEB> IF YOU LOOK AT MY DOLL
<MAGGIEB> HER FACE IS STAMPED WITH COLORBOX CRAFTERS INK IN BLACK
<MAGGIEB> AS IS THE ART MUSE
<MAGGIEB> OHHHHH PENS!
<LiBsTeR> looked on google and it says yes-
<MAGGIEB> I WANTED TO MENTION PENS
<MAGGIEB> TY
<MAGGIEB> YOU DIDNT HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW BUT TY LIB
<LiBsTeR> yw
<MAGGIEB> IF YOU WANT TO WRITE ON YOUR ITEM?
<Janet> thank you
<Janet> yes, I do
<LiBsTeR> i would forget if I didn't do it now
<MAGGIEB> I RECOMMEND MICRON BRAND PIGMA PENS
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN GET THESE IN QUILT SHOPS
<AliciaG> ooh I have those!
<LiBsTeR> right! They are the BEST!
<MAGGIEB> PERMANENT ON FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> AND WONT EAT THE FABRIC OVER TIME
<MAGGIEB> THE DOLLS ONE LEG IS STAMPED IN TEXT WITH LUMIERE RIGHT OUT OF THE BOTTLE
<MAGGIEB> BRUSHED ON THE STAMP
<MAGGIEB> AND THE OTHER LEG HAS STOCKINGS
<MAGGIEB> THAT ARE PAINTED DRY WITH SILK PAINT BY DEKA WHICH IS SOFT AND LETS THE UNDER COLOR SHADOW A BIT
<MAGGIEB> WHICH I WANTED
<MAGGIEB> SO SHE WATCHES OVER MY STUDIO WHEN I AM NOT THERE
<MAGGIEB> AND REPORTS IN ONLY TO ME!
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<MAGGIEB> QUESTIONS???
MAGGIEB DUCKS WHILE YOU FIRE
<LiBsTeR> LOL
<MAGGIEB> AND GETS A SIP OF WINE
<Kaye> what about tulip soft paints
<MAGGIEB> DID I COVER WHAT YOU WANTED?
<LiBsTeR> Any tips on how to get good stamping if using a stamp that is pretty detailed?
<MAGGIEB> TULIP MAKES PAINTS FOR SWEATSHIRT PAINTING ETC.... GOOD PAINTS
<MAGGIEB> LIB THATS A HARD ONE
<MAGGIEB> BUT GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP
<MAGGIEB> I ALWAYS MAKE SURE
<Kaye> they have new soft paints and a velveteen paint
paperpusher is thinking about stamping a couple of tshirts
<MAGGIEB> I HAVE A SCRAP PIECE OF THE SAME FABRIC I AM WORKING ON
<MAGGIEB> AND EXPERIMENT FIRST ON THAT
<paperpushe> You've given me courage, Maggie!
<AliciaG> when we mix acrylic with fabric medium how much do we mix together
<AliciaG> and how should we heat set
<Janet> I do have a question
<MAGGIEB> IT SHOULD SAY ON THE BOTTLE ALICIA
<MAGGIEB> BUT YOU DONT NEED MUCH AT ALL
beanjean1 wants to know> were there more samples to look at?
<beanjean1> sorry to be late
<MAGGIEB> DONT GET IT TOO THIN
<MAGGIEB> ITS OK BJ
<MAGGIEB> LOOK AROUND THE INTERNET
<MAGGIEB> THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WORKING ON FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> I STAMPED SOME ON A FOAM PAD
<MAGGIEB> SOME NOT
<MAGGIEB> DEPENDED ON THE STAMP AS TO THE RESULTS
<MAGGIEB> SO YOU NEED TO JUST STAMP ONCE ON THE SCRAP TO SEE?
<MAGGIEB> ANYONE ELSE?
<MAGGIEB> HOW COME YOU ALL GOT SO QUIET?
<Keribou> are bold stamps the best kind to work with?
<LiBsTeR> thinking
<AliciaG> oh I'm just thinking
<AliciaG> =)
<MAGGIEB> THAT FACE IS PRETTY DETAILED
paperpusher envisions her new stamped tshirts
<MAGGIEB> I LIKE DETAIL
<MAGGIEB> BUT BOLD STAMPS DO WORK GOOD
<Kaye> do you like the fabrico pads
<Janet> Maggie, I heard a rumor once
<MAGGIEB> LIKE HOT POTOTO KIND OF STAMPS YOU SEE DONE ON CAROL DUVAL
<MAGGIEB> YES JANET?
<Keribou> Maggie- I had to grab the baby part way through- did you go over what happens if you stamp and make a mistake?
<MotF> I like detail too, but they seem to been hard to do
<MotF> Love Carol Duval!
<Janet> that if you stamped and embossed with EP on fabric, then ironed it in, that it would be permanent and not wash out. Is that true?
<MAGGIEB> KERIBOU THATS A HARD ONE
<Keribou> that is my bigest fear baout doing a t-shirt
<MAGGIEB> SOME SAY YOU CAN WASH OUT PRIOR TO HEATSETTING
<MAGGIEB> OH YEAH,
<MAGGIEB> HEATSET HEATSET HEATSET!!!
<MAGGIEB> HAD TO SAY THAT AGAIN
<MotF> what temp?
<MAGGIEB> BUT I TRIED WITH THE COLORBOX CRAFTERS INK WHICH I USED AND IT DIDNT ALL COME OUT
<MAGGIEB> HOT
<paperpushe> So Maggie, do think we need to heatset?
<LiBsTeR> LOL
<Janet> lol
<cak> the variation that I heard of Janet's rumor is that you could stamp and emboss on cheap typing paper and then transfer that to the fabric
<kat> lol
<Keribou> lol
<MAGGIEB> AS HOT AS YOUR FABRIC WILL TAKE
<Janet> OH. I heard that, too.
<MAGGIEB> AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO COVER WITH A PRESSING CLOTH
<MAGGIEB> RUMORS
<kat> I have embossed on fabric and it soaks right in
<MAGGIEB> TRY THEM OUT!
<MotF> tell you something else that doesn't work with your regular iron...color transfers onto fabric.. the color washes out..
<MAGGIEB> THERE YOU GO
<MAGGIEB> I WOULD THINK IT WOULD MELT IN
<kat> it does maggie
<Janet> well and if it melted in, then that would be permanent and work
paperpusher envisions heatsetting her newly stamped t shirts
<kat> it does depend on the weight of the fabric too
<Janet> especially if later I wanted to color in with fabric paint
<MotF> kat, can you still see the design?
<MAGGIEB> BUT NO DEFINITION JANET
<LiBsTeR> I wonder if embossing would work if you used resist around the area, and had freezer paper or interfacing behind?
<kat> yes
<Janet> I'll get definition with my painting
<AliciaG> this is so cool maggie =)
<MAGGIEB> TRY IT LIB
<kat> unless you use clear embossing
<MAGGIEB> THAT IS WHERE NEW IDEAS ARE BORN!
<cak> (that's why the transfer process was being touted--doesn't smear out like doing it directly)
<MAGGIEB> TRY IT JANET!
<MotF> this is so neat! My imagine turned out pretty good!
<Janet> I'm going to try that transfer thing with a photo stamp
<MAGGIEB> BUT TRANSFERS ARE NEVER AS VIBRANT
MotF see my butterfly
<MAGGIEB> COOL MOTF!
<kat> great information maggie
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN LET US KNOW HOW IT WORKED JANET
<Janet> that's okay. I want it as background for the text I'll stamp on top of it
<mel> i have a book that also suggests either Cascade Gel Dishwashing Detergent or Clorox Clean-Up for "bleach printing" on fabrics
<MAGGIEB> VERY NICE MOTF!
<MAGGIEB> TY KAT
<MotF> i used just white 100% cotton scrap material.
<MAGGIEB> BE CAREFUL WITH THAT MEL
<Keribou> Maggie- I am inspired
<MAGGIEB> BLEACH CAN WEAKEN FABRIC
<MAGGIEB> JUST PLAY!
<MotF> never use 409 when around good clothing..
<MAGGIEB> HAVE FUN AND PLAY!
<Keribou> I'll use some of hubbys old t-shirts to practice
<LiBsTeR> I have a link where I painted a bit of things
<cak> something that may be help with transfer and transfer inks is to be aware of the fiber content--if its like the crayons, you need a polyester, not cotton. the dye sublimation works better
<mel> thanks... i have never tried it
<MAGGIEB> CAN YOU GIVE US THAT LIB?
<MotF> oh you all just gave me an idea!
<Janet> I was thinking of using the pharmacist's dress shirts. heh heh
<LiBsTeR> http://www.Libbyscorneroftheworld.eboard.com
<MAGGIEB> WE WOULD LOVE IT
<MAGGIEB> TY
<MAGGIEB> RIGHT CAK
<LiBsTeR> scattered around, some on blocks, some in the MiSC
<MotF> I can use this technique to add flowers to my 'bleached out' areas on my new shorts I ruined.
<MAGGIEB> ALWAYS READ YOUR LABELS!!
<MAGGIEB> AND HEATSET HEATSET HEATSET
MotF virtuals HUGS
<LiBsTeR> I had forgotten I was experimenting- so these are first trys , don't expect much
<AliciaG> heh maggie
<MAGGIEB> LOL MOTF
<AliciaG> something tells me you want us to heatset
<Janet> LOL
<Janet> Maggie, thank you so much!
<kat> ty maggie
<cak> Yes, thanks Maggie!
<MotF> lib.. you quilt.. you are my hero!
<MAGGIEB> WELL AFTER ALL YOUR WORK I WANT IT TO STAY PUT!
<LiBsTeR> lib tattoos HEATSET on her forehead
<paperpushe> thanks maggie
<Janet> I've been begging for this class and now I got it. Thank you!!
<MAGGIEB> YW EVERYONE
<AliciaG> thank you so much maggie for sharing all this with us
<MotF> question..
<MAGGIEB> YW JANET
<MAGGIEB> YES?
<LiBsTeR> Thanks Maggie!!!!
<MotF> Thanks so much, Maggie!
<pacific> thanks (> great class!!!
<MAGGIEB> QUESTION MOTF?
<AliciaG> I'm so glad I logged this
<MotF> what is this with using baby powder before you emboss on items?
<LiBsTeR> me too
<MAGGIEB> BABY POWDER?
<MAGGIEB> I USE CORNSTARCH
<Kaye> thanks maggie
<LiBsTeR> for static
<MAGGIEB> IN A MUSLIN BAG
<LiBsTeR> right?
<MAGGIEB> ELIMATES STATIC
<paperpushe> bet you could stamp that muslin bag
<LiBsTeR> cornstarch would be better!!!
<MAGGIEB> THAT HOLDS EP WHERE YOU DONT WANT IT
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN PP!
<paperpushe> lol
<MotF> I don't understand... wouldn't it NOT let the ink and embossing powder set?
<LiBsTeR> LOL
<MAGGIEB> ANTI STATIC BAG OR CORNSTARCH, WHICH KAT TAUGHT ME
<AliciaG> no thanks maggie, I pp'ed before. (sorry coudln't resist)
<LiBsTeR> LOL
<MAGGIEB> NO IT WORKS MOTF
<MotF> on anything?
<MAGGIEB> LOL ALICIA
<AliciaG> I'm bad
<Keribou> ok- baby bathtime- good nught
<MAGGIEB> ON GLASS, ON PAPER
<Keribou> 10q x 1,000,000 ,aggie
<MAGGIEB> CAN I TAKE MY CAPS OFF NOW?
<paperpushe> did someone say paper?
<MotF> yes :)
<MAGGIEB> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
<MAGGIEB> YES PAPER, ANOTHER FIBER!
<cak> I suspect the static is not strong enough to hold more than individual grains of ep, so you only get ep clinging to the ink
<MotF> and it won't come off?
<MAGGIEB> ty all for comint to class!
<MotF> Oh, I enjoyed it, Maggie.
<MAGGIEB> i would love to see pics of things you do!
<cak> the cornstarch or the ep?
<beanjean1> thanks maggie
<LiBsTeR> I LOVED this class!
<deb> thanks maggie
<MAGGIEB> ty lib
<LiBsTeR> well worth looking forward to all day!
<MAGGIEB> ty deb
<MAGGIEB> thanks all!
<Kaye> thanks great tips maggie
<magnolia> thanks to you
<MAGGIEB> i head that rumor libster!
<MAGGIEB> lol
<LiBsTeR> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ hug maggie }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
<LiBsTeR> gotta go to bed, worn out!
<LiBsTeR> Thanks again maggie!
<MAGGIEB> you and my fingers!!
<paperpushe> night lib
<MAGGIEB> lol
<LiBsTeR> night everybody!!!!!
<MAGGIEB> didnt cut and paste!
<MAGGIEB> lol
<MAGGIEB> night
<MAGGIEB> so we all off to cyberstampers?
<MotF> nighters.
<Janet> I'm off to supper1
<kat> sure
<deb> yes
<mel> Maggie... your goddess is wonderful... and the tips were so helpful... thanks!
<MotF> Race you all.
<MAGGIEB> yw
<Janet> thank you again, Maggie. this is wonderful
Log file closed at 11/6/01 10:15:05 PM