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<MomCat> Brenda, on my way to Carson today, I figured out how to express the difference between layering and collage!

<brenda> how diane?

<deb> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html

<MomCat> Layers, =frame= the picture.

<brenda> ok

<MomCat> Collage elements are =part= of the picture.

<brenda> right

<brenda> good way to put it

<Scout> How was carson, MomCat? Was the building construction in the way?

<brenda> i am telling my secret to how to learn collage tonight

<MomCat> Great, Brenda!

<brenda> it is simple

<MomCat> Scout, it's great! and still on tomorrow.

<brenda> cause i always do simple

<louann> we like simple

<MomCat> I didn't notice any building construction.

<Scout> Yah, I know, but my pocket is still recovering from last weeks spending.

<MomCat> lol

<brenda> lol scout me too

<cak> (for which I am always grateful--brenda's simple is always enlightening)

<brenda> ty cak

<LiBsTeR> hey cak! :-)

<MomCat> Brenda is the first one to make Joseph's coat look like something I want to do.

<brenda> i just try to make it where people can do anything i teach without getting frustrated

<brenda> ty diane

<MomCat> YW

<brenda> you are all swelling my head again

<brenda> OK ARE WE READY?

paperpusher sneaks over in the corner

<Carole> yes

<GailWink> What are we doing???

<LiBsTeR> libster sneaks over to the corner with paperpusher

<cak> I am!

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html

<brenda> FIRST I AM GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT COLLAGING

<brenda> I DID SAMPLES OVER AND OVER FOR PROBABLY A MONTH

<brenda> EVERYTIME I WOULD SHOW THEM

<brenda> I WOULD ASK ARE THESE COLLAGE?

<brenda> AND THEY WOULD SAY NO

<brenda> I GOT VERY FRUSTRATED

<brenda> SO I SAT AND JOINED A TAG SWAP

<brenda> I GUESS TO INCREASE MY FRUSTRATION OR BECAUSE OF TEMP INSANITY

<brenda> BUT ANYHOW

<LiBsTeR> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html class url

<brenda> I WAS LOOKING AT THIS TAH

<brenda> TAG

<brenda> AND IT JUST POPPED INTO MY HEAD

<brenda> THAT WHEN YOUR IMAGES ARE TOO BIG TO FIT

<brenda> YOU HAVE TO TURN THEM

<brenda> YOU CANNOT LAYER THEM

<brenda> SO I TRIED IT WITH SEVERAL TAGS

<brenda> AND IT WORKED WITH THEM

<brenda> BUT WOULD IT WORK WITH A CARD

<LiBsTeR> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html class url

<brenda> SO I GOT BIG IMAGES

<brenda> COLORED THEM

<brenda> CUT THEM OUT

<brenda> PILED THEM ON THE CARD

<brenda> ARRANGED

<brenda> MOVED

<brenda> SWITCHED

<LiBsTeR> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html class url

<brenda> JUST KEPT PLACING TILL IT KIND OF FLOWED INTO EACH OTHER

<brenda> GUESS WHAT

<brenda> COLLAGE

<brenda> EASY

<LiBsTeR> yeahhhhh!!!!!

<brenda> BEFORE I WAS USING TOO SMALL OF IMAGES

<brenda> YOU CAN USE SMALL BUT FOR COLLAGE YOU DO NEED SOME SIZE ALSO

<brenda> AND STRART WITH TOO MUCH

<brenda> THEN TAKE HALF OFF

<brenda> LOOK AT IT

<brenda> THEN REMOVE SOME MORE

<brenda> THAT SOUNDS CRAZY

<brenda> BUT IT WORKED

<brenda> I SWEAR

<LiBsTeR> LOL makes sense to me

<brenda> OK FIRST CARD ON THAT PAGE

<brenda> WAS DONE WITH MOSTLY RADIENT PEARLS

<brenda> THEN I HIGHLIGHTED THE ANGELS WINGS WITH A LITTLE READY TEX GOLD WATERED DOWN

<brenda> THE REASON BEING IT KIND OF JUST ADDED A LITTLE MORE OOMPH

<Sher> Is there a sample url page please

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html

<deb> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html

<brenda> TY DEB

<brenda> THE SECOND CARD

<Sher> ty

<brenda> THE ANGELS AND FLOWERS WERE RADIENT PEARLS

<brenda> BUT THE FRAME I DID RUBONS WITH A STENCIL BRUSH

<brenda> THE WORD ARE I DID ALSO WITH RUBONS

<brenda> ARE=ART

<RubberRabb> sorry I'm late!

<brenda> THE NEXT THREE CARDS

<RubberRabb> what have I missed so far?

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<brenda> I DID THE JOSEPHS COAT

<RubberRabb> thanks

<brenda> NOT MUCH RR

<RubberRabb> ooh I love joseph's coat

<brenda> JOSEPHS COAT IS JUST SCRIBBLE WITH FAT MARVIES

<brenda> THEN STAMP WITH CLEAR EMBOSSING INK AND EMBOSS WITH CLEAR EP

<brenda> THEN RUB BLACK INK OVER THE DESIGN

<brenda> THEN WIPE IT OFF THE EP IMAGE LINE

<paperpushe> Rabbit!

<brenda> THE COLORS DONT REALLY MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE EITHER

<deb> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html

<paperpushe> Hey Kriz!

<brenda> IT ALWAYS LOOKS AWFUL WHILE WORKING ON IT

<Kriztina> hi peeps

<brenda> I CALL IT THE UGLY CARD

<RubberRabb> Hey Kriz!

<brenda> THEN IT IS TRANSFORMED

<Glenda> hi kriz

<RubberRabb> and very scary, too-putting all the black over it

<brenda> YES IT IS RR

<Sher> what type of black ink do you use?

<brenda> YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO MESS IT UP

<brenda> RANGER ARCHIVAL BLACK

<brenda> CAN USE MEMORIES

<brenda> TIP

<Sher> what sort of paper did you color on with the marvys?

<brenda> MAKE SURE TO STAMP AND EMBOSS BEFORE PUTTING BLACK INK ON IT

<brenda> JUST MATTE CARD STOCK

<brenda> LIGHT COLOR

<Sher> very pretty

<brenda> TY

<brenda> OK THE NEXT THREE CARDS WERE SO FAST AND EASY

<brenda> THAT I STARTED NOT TO INCLUDE THEM

<brenda> BUT THEY WERE INTERESTING

<brenda> SO I DID

<deb> the next 2 sets are my faves <G>

<brenda> I TOOK THE MARVY MARKERS AND COLORED DIRECTLY ON THE STAMP

<brenda> THE COLORS WHERE I WANTED THEM

<brenda> THEN TOOK A SPRITZ BOTTLE WITH ALCOHOL AND WATER MIXED IN IT

<brenda> HALF AND HALF

<brenda> AND SPRITZED THE STAMP ABOUT 2 TO 3 TIMES

<brenda> THEN STAMPED

<brenda> THAT IS IT

<brenda> EASY

<kat> any special paper brenda

<Glenda> here's a dumb questions...marvy markers as in watercolor markers? how do you emboss?

<brenda> I JUST USED DARK MATTE CARDSTOCK

Glenda is a newbie

<brenda> I DONT USE MUCH GLOSSY

<brenda> I DIDNT EMBOSS ON THESE GLENDA

<Glenda> okay

<brenda> WATER COLOR MARKERS

<brenda> CRAYOLA MARKERS WILL ALSO WORK

<brenda> AS LONG AS THEY ARE JUICY

<deb> any kind of water based markers

<deb> don't use tria

<brenda> YEP

<deb> or studio markers

<brenda> RIGHT

<Glenda> sounds easy

<brenda> OK I SAID DARK CARDSTOCKL

<brenda> BUT THAT WAS A BEIGE CARDSTOCK

<brenda> MATTE

<kat> looks like water color

<brenda> IT IS WATERCOLOR

<deb> right

<deb> and you do it right on the stamp

<brenda> YEP

<brenda> QUICK AND EASY

<Glenda> these are the ones on the dark paper?

<deb> no

<deb> these are the next ones down

<Glenda> the ones below that?

<deb> the pastel flowers

<Glenda> okay....i see

<brenda> GG DESIGNS BOLD STAMPS ARE PERFECT FOR THIS TECHNIQUE

<brenda> NO GLENDA

<brenda> I JUMPED AHEAD

<brenda> SORRY

<Glenda> no problem...i got here late

Glenda now goes to the corner to shut up and listen

<brenda> NO ASK SO YOU WILL UNDERSTAND

<brenda> I AM FIGHTING A MIGRAINE SO MAY NOT BE MAKING MUCH SENSE

<kat> only dumb question is the one you didn't ask glenda

<kat> lol

<Glenda> those stamps are large stamps right?

<brenda> WHEN YOU LEAVE MY CLASS I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS

<Glenda> lol kat

<brenda> YES GLENDA

<Glenda> i'll ask plenty of those

<brenda> VERY LARGE AND BOLD

<brenda> PERFECT FOR THIS

<brenda> AND NOT A LOT OF DETAIL

<Glenda> really interesting looking

<brenda> TY

<brenda> THAT IS WHY I DECIDED TO INCLUDE THEM

<brenda> DIFFERENT

<brenda> OK LAST ROW

<brenda> THE TWO CARDS ON THE ENDS

<brenda> NOT THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE

<brenda> DARK MATTE CARDSTOCK

<brenda> AND VERSAMARK INK PAD

<brenda> STAMP YOUR IMAGE WITH VERSAMARK

<brenda> THEN TAKE POWDERED PEARLS,FAIRY DUST OR PEARL EX

<brenda> AND JUST BRUSH IT OVER THE DESIGN

<deb> (versamark pad is clear ink)

<brenda> ADD SEVERAL COLORS

<brenda> YES DEB

<brenda> TTHEN AFTER YOU HAVE COLORED THESE

<brenda> JUST TAKE A TISSUE AND RUB THE EXCESS POWDER OFF

<brenda> VERY QUICK AND ELEGANT CARD

<Glenda> that's too easy to be that beautiful

<brenda> PEOPLE WILL THINK YOU SPENT HOURS ON THESE

<Glenda> lol...even i can do this

<brenda> YES

<brenda> THAT IS MY WAY GLENDA

<brenda> EASY BASIC SIMPLE

<brenda> NOW THE ;LAST CARD

<brenda> I DONT LIKE THIS CARD

<brenda> BUT SOMEONE ELSE DID

<brenda> SO IT IS HERE

<brenda> I PAINTED RADIENT PEARLS ON THE STAMP THEN STAMPED IT

<brenda> THAT IS IT

<brenda> NOW IS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH?

<Glenda> absolutely

<louann> did you clear emboss it?

<Glenda> can you go over the grid looking cards..the black ones..i must've missed that part

<brenda> THE LAST CARD LOUANN?

<Glenda> how are they done?

<brenda> YES GLENDA

<deb> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html

<brenda> LOUANN THE LAST CARD IS NOT EMBOSSED

<louann> yes, the RP painted on the stamp card

<RubberRabb> Enchy!!

<LiBsTeR> {{{{{{{{ ency!! }}}}}}}}}}}

<brenda> GLENDA THESE THREE WERE ALL DONE WITH JOSEPH COAT

<louann> ty Brenda

<brenda> LOUANN THE STAMP IS PAINTED THEN JUST STAMPED ON THE CARD

<Glenda> is that a special ink brenda?

<brenda> JOSEPH COAT IS WHERE YOU TAKE MARVY MARKERS AND SCRIBBLE

<brenda> NO

<Glenda> oh..okay

<brenda> JUST SCRIBBLE ALL OVER

<Glenda> scribble onto the cardstock?

<brenda> LOOKS HORRIBLE

<brenda> YES

<brenda> NOW TAKE A BIG BOLD IMAGE

<brenda> OR SEVERAL SMALL LIKE THE GRID ONE

<brenda> AND CLEAR EMBOSSING INK

<brenda> AND STAMP

<brenda> THEN CEAR EMBOSSING POWDER

<brenda> HEAT

<brenda> THEN TAKE RANGER BLACK ARCHIVAL INK

<brenda> WIPE THAT BLACK INK ALL OVER THE CARDSTOCK

<brenda> YUCKY

<brenda> THEN TAKE TISSUE AND WIPE THE INK OFF THE EMBOSSED IMAGE

<brenda> IT HAS TURNED GORGEOUS

<brenda> DRAMATIC

<Glenda> okay...i have done that with pigment ink over embossed and then wipe off

<brenda> YOU REALLY NEED BOLD DESIGNS FOR THIS

<Glenda> then emboss whole card with clear

<brenda> YOU CAN DO THAT TOO

<Glenda> this seems easier

<brenda> I JUST PREFER IT THIS WAY

<brenda> IT IS DIFFERENT LOOK GLENDA

<Glenda> very nice

<brenda> TY

<brenda> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS???????

<LiBsTeR> can you explain a rub on?

<LiBsTeR> And using a stencil brush with it?

<brenda> RUBONS ARE IN A PALLETTE

<brenda> ABOUT 7 COLORS IN THE LITTLE PLASTIC TRAY

<brenda> COST ABOUT 4 DOLLARS I THINK

<LiBsTeR> are they chalk, or paint??

<LiBsTeR> OH!!!

<brenda> I USE A CHEAP CHILDS STENCIL BRUSH

<LiBsTeR> I remember seeing them- they are metallic, right?

<brenda> THAT I CUT THE BRISTLES ON TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO CONTROL THE PLACEMENT OF COLOR

<brenda> SOME ARE LUSTERS

<LiBsTeR> aha, ok!!!

<brenda> SOME ARE METALLIC

<LiBsTeR> what did you use?

<brenda> I JUST USED THE CHILDS STENCIL BRUSH

<brenda> RUB AROUND

<LiBsTeR> I mean, luster or metallic

<brenda> JUST A TINY BIT OF COLOR

<brenda> BOTH

<LiBsTeR> OK

<brenda> I USED SEVERAL COLORS

<brenda> I DIDNT STAY IN THE LINES EITHER

<LiBsTeR> lol

<brenda> I AM VERY STRICT

<brenda> THIS WAS PROBABLY THE HARDEST I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH TECH

<brenda> CAUSE I STAY IN LINES

<brenda> I FRAME EVERYTHING

<brenda> SO I GOT COLLAGE

<brenda> AND WENT OUT OF THE LINES TOO

<cak> Another skill!

<brenda> YES

<brenda> LOL

<brenda> BUT WHEN I PLAYED WITH TAGS IT MADE IT EASY THEN

<brenda> I ANALYZE TOO MUCH I THINK

<brenda> HEY RED

<LiBsTeR> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html class url

<brenda> ANYMOER QUESTIONS

<deb> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/ggdesigns/options.html

<Redstick> hiya brenda

<Redstick> thanks :)

<LiBsTeR> beatcha deb! MWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

<deb> lol

<deb> yeah but I'm lsyinh foen

LiBsTeR slaps deb around a bit with a large trout

<deb> err layihgn down

<LiBsTeR> LOL

<brenda> DEB YOUR HEAD ISNT BETTER EITHER?

<LiBsTeR> you got Janet's european keyboard??

<deb> yeah a littie

<deb> little

<deb> lol

<deb> trying to type one handed

<LiBsTeR> Ooooo

<brenda> JANET SURE COULDNT TYPE TODAY

<deb> lol

<brenda> SHE SAID THEY HAD THE LETTERS MIXED UP

<LiBsTeR> libster thought maybe the coolness of the trout would make Deb feel better............

<deb> uh huh

brenda EYES LIB

<Redstick> not QWERTY huh?

<LiBsTeR> libster thinks maybe deb saw through that one........

<Glenda> brenda, i wonder how different color archival ink would look? something besides black?

<brenda> I TRIED A PURPLE ONCE GLENDA

<deb> Glenda I've tried other colors

<deb> they work too

<brenda> AND IT GIVES A VERY DIFFERENT LOOK

Glenda is definitely trying these

<brenda> BUT BEWARE I HAD SOME THAT TURNED OUT AWFUL

MomCat looks off into the wings and sees Anaconda eying Libster and the trout.

<brenda> AND SUSPECT IT WAS CAUSE OF THE COLOR CLASH

<brenda> BUT I CANT TELL FOR SURE

<Glenda> yeah, i'm sure you have to be careful what you mix

<deb> my blue ons was awesome

<brenda> CAUSE I AM PARTIALLY COLOR BLIND

<LiBsTeR> libster runs over to the corner again, and hides behind paperpusher

<Glenda> you wipe the ink on straight from the pad?

<brenda> YES

<brenda> IF YOU DONT WANT TO

<brenda> YOU CAN USE A SPONGE ALSO THOUGH

<brenda> I TRIED IT

<brenda> IT JUST TAKES LONGER

<deb> or brayer

<Glenda> yeah, a brayer

<brenda> I DONT EVER BRAYER

<brenda> I NEVER REMEMBER I HAVE ONE

<brenda> LOL

paperpusher hides lib with her copious self

Redstick sneaks up behind Wabbit and tugs on her little bunny tail

<brenda> ANY MORE QUESTIONS?

<Redstick> YES!

<cak> Do you not get opaque coverage when you cover with the black ink?

<brenda> CAK WHEN YOU USE THE BLACK IT ALMOST COVERS COMPLETELY

<brenda> BUT THEN YOU ARE WIPING THE INK OFF THE EMBOSSED PART

<brenda> SO THE DESIGNS SHOWS THRU

<brenda> CAK DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

<Scout> Those are the black/pink ones in the 3rd row, right?

<cak> Okey doke--the scans show some swipes of color and wasn't sure if it was the scan or the way the process turned out

<cak> Thank you brenda--lots of good stuff as usual

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