Log file opened at 2/28/02 11:53:24 AM

<brenda> well jean it means if obnoxious people come in that get offensive we cant get rid of them

<brenda> which has happened in the past

<brenda> like hackers

<crowfafk> oooo we can't have that!! gotta keep all our personal biznes private!

<brenda> trouble makers

<brenda> not private

<brenda> but if they come looking for trouble janet can handle them especially if we have ops

<crowfafk> k, i'll not do that again then! And will tell my h not to put me in if i'm gonna be first. I'll tell him to wait until someone else is in there first.

<crowfafk> he does it sometimes when i'm out.

<brenda> and we also try not to op everyone except during convention unless we know them

<brenda> ty jean

<Janet> Hi!!

<Janet> Jean is here! yay!

<brenda> hey janet

<crowfafk> oh right! there may be bad guys!!

<Janet> Labell! CAK! Lib! Alla y'all! yay!

<LiBsTeR> hey Janet <slurp>

<labelle> Howdy

<Janet> I brought in the class page so if you wanted to go look at things before class you could.

<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<cak> hiya

<crowfafk> thanks for the big greeting janet! sure wish i could stay but i didn't know this was convention week when i scheduled a whole pack a medical tests, so i'm off again for a couple of hours.

CindyC wonders about the peson who just came and went in cyberstampers... got whispered note that they wanted to get to know me... lol i just ignored..

<Janet> Who was it, Cindy?

<crowfafk> rofl! you have an admirer cindy! wonder what that was all about!

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<brenda> roflol

<brenda> hey deb cowan

<Janet> Howdy, Deb!

<CindyC> maybe innocent.. who knows.. lol

<secondstar> hi!

<crowfafk> janet, before i leave, that opening page for this class, the one with the negative images, are those stamped that way?

<crowfafk> i love that look

<Janet> Jean, yes, they are, that's showing the differences in the paper. The image there is a gg designs one

<crowfafk> tell us about how you stamped these

<Janet> Oh! I need to add my watercolor of the Second Star on the Right sunflowers. I'll ask my daughter to bring that back over here to scan before Saturday

<Janet> on the first page, that's just stamped.

<Janet> I haven't done anything to them yet, they're just stamped

<crowfafk> but what ink did you use? I love that look just the way it is!

<secondstar> ??url

<crowfafk> hi second star!

<Janet> that was memories artprint brown

<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> the new Brilliance pads are great with watercolors. If you heat set them, they don't run

<crowfafk> i have memories ink, but is "artprint" a different brown than just the Memories brown?

<Janet> You're asking me?? LOL my pad says "artprint brown"

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<crowfafk> lol! mebbe then, i'll just go read my pad!

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> OKAY!

<crowfafk> well, thx janet, looking forward to seeing this class when i return, and brenda has cured me of coming in early and holding everyone's hats so they can't have any. will not do that annnnny morrrre.

<Janet> IF YOU NEED VISUALS, THE CLASS PAGE IS AT http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> HURRY BACK, JEAN!

<brenda> i didnt fuss jean

<kristi> ty

<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<sweetp> hi everybody!!!

<Janet> BEFORE WE GET REALLY GOOD AND STARTED, EVERYBODY GO GET THEIR PAINTS AND PAPER

<Janet> AND MASKING TAPE

<Janet> THIS IS A HANDS-ON CLASS :)

<kristi> my comp crashed - a "friend" sent me thos fancy, stationaried e-mail with music and such attached and it crashed me :-(

<crowfafk> oh no, brenda was a dear, better n i deserved, that's for sure-- she never said a word til i asked and then was her usual dear self in replying-- thanks brenda, you have a good heart! see you all later then, bye oh and buy!

<brenda> bye jean

<Janet> TAKE CARE, JEAN

<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/ IS THE CLASS PAGE IF YOU NEED THE VISUALS

<Janet> ARE WE READY TO PAINT???

<kristi> yep

<brenda> yes

<Kristin> yes!

<LiBsTeR> yes ma'am!

<labelle> yeah

<vicki> yes

<Janet> OKAY!!

<Janet> FIRST THING IS TO TAPE DOWN YOUR PAPER...

<Janet> I LIKE TO TAPE MINE TO SOMETHING THAT i CAN MOVE, LIKE A CUTTING BOARD

<LiBsTeR> good idea!

<Janet> SO I CAN ROTATE PROJECTS

<Janet> I ONLY HAVE ABOUT 12" CLEAN ON MY DESK

<labelle> me,too

<brenda> wow lot of space

<brenda> i am less than that right now

<Janet> IF YOU HAVE A BIG CLEAN DESK IT MAY NOT BE THAT BIG A DEAL. FOR ME THERE'S ONLY CLEAN SPACE ENOUGH FOR ABOUT ONE CARD SIZED PAPER

<kristi> I don't think I have that much right now

<Janet> SO IF YOU HAVE A CUTTING BOARD OR A GOOD STIFF MAGAZINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE TAPE YOUR PAPER TO THAT

rabbitsmom using tv trays now

<vicki> I never have more than 10"

<Janet> SO YOU CAN SET PROJECT 1 ASIDE AND GO ON TO THE SECOND AND THE THIRD

<sweetp> yea

<kristi> me too rabbitsmom

<Janet> YOU TAPE DOWN YOUR PAPER SO IT DOESN'T BUCKLE OR RIPPLE ON YOU

<vickieb> dumb qquestion- watercolor paper or what?

<kristi> I have a project goingo n each on, LOL!

<Janet> WATERCOLOR PAPER IS PREFERRED FOR SURE

<vicki> what kind of tape?

<Janet> MASKING TAPE IS WHAT I USE, IT'S NICE AND INEXPENSIVE

<Janet> AND IT IS WATER TIGHT MORE OR LESS

<Kristin> Do you have to water down the paper before you tape it? I think I read that somewhere..

<kristi> ooooo, Janet - can I mention something???

rabbitsmom crafts all over house = no guests alowed

<kristi> LOL

<Kristin> LOL

<Janet> IF YOU'RE USING A THINNER PAPER, LIKE RICE PAPER (i LOVE TO WATERCOLOR ON RICE PAPER) YOU WET IT, STRETCH IT, TAPE IT DOWN, THEN LET IT DRY

<Janet> MENTION SOMETHING, KRISTI, SURE!!

<kristi> you get really kewl edges if you cut the tape with your decorative edge scissors before taping down your paper

<janet> YES YOU CAN!

<rabbitsmom> neat idea

<vickieb> do we wet it?

<janet> OR I USUALLY JUST SCORE IT AND THEN RIP IT, THAT MAKES A GOOD FEATHERY EDGE TOO

kristi takes note to try watercoloring rice paper

<janet> NOT YET, VICKIE

<vickieb> ok

<janet> JUST TAPE IT DOWN, ALL THE WAY ON ALL SIDES

<janet> NOT ONLY DOES THIS HELP WITH THE BUCKLING (IT MAY BUCKLE UP A BIT BUT THEN WILL DRY BACK FLAT)...

CindyC is now known as cindycBBS

<janet> BUT YOU GET THAT NIFTY WHITE BORDER AROUND IT

<janet> WHILE YOU ALL ARE TAPING DOWN, LET ME TALK A LITTLE ABOUT PAPER

<Janet> WATERCOLOR PAPER COMES IN DIFFERENT WEIGHTS, THE HIGHER THE NUMBER THE HEAVIER THE PAPER

<Janet> IF IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT WEIGHT IT IS, IT'S PROBABLY 90 LB PAPER

<Janet> LOOK FOR 140 LB PAPER, IT'S HEAVY ENOUGH NOT TO RIPPLE WHEN IT GETS REALLY WET

<brenda> k

<brenda> hot or cold?

<Janet> AND WATERCOLOR PAPER COMES IN DIFFERENT TEXTURES TOO

<brenda> press

<Janet> DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE WANTING, BRENDA

<brenda> k

<Janet> THE VERY FIRST PAGE ON THE CLASS PAGE AT http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/ SHOWS PAPER

<Janet> HI, SERENE, WE'RE JUST TAPING DOWN NOW

<Janet> AND I'M TALKING ABOUT PAPER WHILE PEOPLE ARE TAPING

<vickieb> hey Serene-hi

<Serene> hi y'all

<Serene> vickieb as in vickiebarth?

<vickieb> yea

<Serene> heyyyyyyyy vickieb :)

<Janet> YOU CAN USUALLY FIND WATERCOLOR PAPER IN THREE DIFFERENT TEXTURES. HOT PRESS, COLD PRESS AND ROUGH

<vickieb> we missed you at Fred Mullets class

<Janet> COLD PRESS AND ROUGH CAN BE THE SAME

<Janet> IT DEPENDS ON THE BRAND

Serene sobs

<vickieb> sorry

<Serene> i wanted to go so bad. i signed up on the first day, and had to pull out because i had to go to yakima

<Janet> IF YOU'RE WANTING TO STAMP ON THE PAPER, HOT PRESS IS LIKE STAMPING ON GLOSSY

<cak> do most companies have the 3 textures or just the hot and cold press?

<Janet> IT STAMPS GREAT

<Janet> IT DEPENDS ON THE COMPANY. A LOT JUST HAVE HOT AND COLD PRESS

<Kristin> So that's the best?

<Janet> AND SOME CRAFT STORES JUST CARRY THE COLD PRESS

<Serene> is there a lot of difference between cold press and rough?

<Janet> NO, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO

<Serene> k

<labelle> Hot press is not easy to find, at least I don't know where to look

<Janet> THERE'S USUALLY NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ROUGH AND COLD PRESS

<Serene> i have found hot press at art stores.

<Serene> art supply stores, that is

<Janet> IN THE US, YOU CAN FIND THE HOT PRESS AT MICHAELS AND HOBBY LOBBY AND THOSE KINDS OF CRAFT STORES

<Janet> IN THE RACK OF POSTER BOARD SIZED PAPERS

<Janet> USUALLY NOT IN PADS

<Janet> IN ART SUPPLY STORES YOU CAN FIND HOT PRESS IN THE PADS

<labelle> Duh, no wonder I couldn't find it, I was looking in the pads

<cak> me too!

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Serene> i buy it in the big sheets. both hot and cold

<Serene> somehow i think it is better quality

<secondstar> doesn't the one with the french name come in pads?

<Serene> i don't know if that's the case or not

<cak> (although I did find a block of hot press in the pads one time)

<Janet> LOOK IN THE RACK, THE ONE THAT HAS THE DIFFERENT COLORS, TOO. SOMEWHERE IN THERE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND HOT PRESS PAPER

<Janet> IT DOES, AND YOU CAN FIND THAT IN THE ART SUPPLY STORES, OR PLACES LIKE DICK BLICK YOU CAN MAIL ORDER IT

<secondstar> Daniel Smith in WA

<Janet> BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO JUST HAVE A MICHAELS OR HOBBY LOBBY, LOOK IN THE RACK

<Janet> ANYWAY, HOT PRESS YOU CAN STAMP ON AND GET A GREAT IMAGE ON

<Janet> COLD PRESS IS A ROUGHER TEXTURE, SO YOUR IMAGE WON'T STAMP AS CLEAN

<labelle> For what we are doing, my cold press is ok?

<Janet> BUT!!!

<Janet> THAT EXTRA TEXTURE OF THE COLD PRESS LOOKS DYNAMIC WHEN DOING THINGS LIKE OUR PROJECTS ONE AND TWO IN HERE TODAY

<Janet> YES, LABELLE, THAT'S GOING TO BE PERFECT

<labelle> hurray!

<vicki> Hobby Lobby has artist pads 1/2 price this week

<Janet> AND THERE'S NO LAW THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T STAMP AN IMAGE AND THEN DRAW OR PAINT IN THE PARTS THAT DIDN'T STAMP SO GOOD

<Serene> hey gail

<brenda> you made it gemr

<cak> (what??!! no paint police?)

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> ONE OF THE ONES ON THE SAMPLE PAGE THAT'S MAINLY A TREE TRUNK AND A SKY IS ON ROUGH PAPER

<Janet> GAIL IS HERE! WOW! GAIL CAME TO MY CLASS

Janet BEAMS

<brenda> yippieee

<gemr> *ggg* Don't ask me how I did it. Brenda helped me. :)

<brenda> lol

<Janet> GAIL, WE'RE JUST TAPING DOWN OUR PAPER NOW

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> IS EVERYBODY TAPED DOWN?

<vickieb> yes

<Janet> (EXCEPT GAIL THAT JUST GOT HERE)

<gemr> oh, good. I didn't miss much. Watercolor paper? A whole sheet?

<Janet> OKAY!

<brenda> samples are here but you cant click the link

LiBsTeR can't move to answer, taped down

<labelle> have been!

<brenda> you will have to open another browser then type it in gail

<Janet> HOWEVER MUCH YOU WANT, GAIL, I DID CARD'SIZED SHEETS

<Janet> OKAY! GET THAT PAPER WET WITH JUST PLAIN WATER...

<gemr> ok. I have watercolor pencils. will that work?

<Janet> ALTHOUGH BEFORE YOU DO THAT, MAKE A COUPLE OF COLORS OF PUDDLED COLORED WATER IN YOUR PALETTE

<Janet> GAIL, SCRIBBLE SOME ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND USE THAT AS A PAINT PALETTE

<Janet> SO SCRIBBLE A COUPLE COLORS OF WATERCOLOR PENCIL ON A SEPARATE SHEET OF PAPER AND YOU CAN USE IT AS YOUR PALETTE

<Janet> BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FIRST IS CALLED WET ON WET

<Janet> MEANS PAINTING WITH WET PAINT ON WET PAPER

<Janet> THIS IS WHAT WILL GIVE YOU THAT FEATHERING LOOK LIKE YOU SEE IN SOME OF THE SKIES IN THE SAMPLES

<Janet> ANY TWO OR THREE COLORS YOU WANT, TOO

<Janet> IF YOU'RE WANTING A SKY WITH CLOUDS...

<Janet> THINK ABOUT THE CLOUDS YOU'VE WATCHED...

<Janet> CLOUDS USUALLY WILL HAVE A SORT OF SHADOW TO THE BOTTOM OF THEM...

<Janet> AND AN EASY WAY TO PAINT CLOUDS IS TO LEAVE WHITE PLACES AND FLOAT IN A SHADOW TO THE WHITE

<Janet> BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE WHITE WATERCOLORS

<Janet> YOUR PAPER IS YOUR WHITE

<Janet> WATERCOLORS ARE TRANSPARENT, YOU'RE AIMING TO ALWAYS SEE YOUR PAPER

<Janet> UNDER THE PAINT

<Janet> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

<labelle> yes,ma'am

<Janet> OKAY GOOD

<brenda> oh ok

<Janet> SO AFTER YOU GET SOME PUDDLES OF COLOR IN YOUR PALETTE, GO PAINT YOUR PAPER WITH CLEAR WATER

<Janet> GET IT NICE AND WET

<Janet> SOME LAZY GIRLS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO RUN THEIR PAPER UNDER THE KITCHEN FAUCET

<cak> I think so. To do the cloud shadows you wait til it's dry and then put a little water down where you want the shadows and then add paint??

<Janet> AND THEN JUST WIPE OFF THE EXCESS

<Janet> CAK, I DON'T USUALLY WAIT UNTIL IT'S DRY

<cak> lol

<Janet> I FLOAT IN SOME BLUE (OR GRAY OR GREEN OR WHATEVER COLOR MY SKY IS)...

<vicki> green sky?

<Janet> AND LEAVE PAPER BLANK IN PLACES AND RIGHT AWAY HAVE SOME GRAY OR BLUE GRAY OR WHAVER COLOR I WANT MY SHADOW AND FLOAT IT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE WHITE SPACES

<Janet> AND BECAUSE THE PAPER IS WET, IT FEATHERS IN AND UP INTO THE WHITE PLACES OF BLANK PAPER

<Janet> GREEN SKY. TORNADO IS COMING. :)

<cak> just using a titch of paint?

<vicki> never seen a tornado!

<Janet> YES, JUST USING A BARELY THERE GRAY, MOSTLY WATER IN MY BRUSH

<Janet> EVEN JUST USING DIRTY WATER

<cak> (recycling!)

<Janet> HI, LYNN, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF PROJECT 1 AT http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> WE ARE TAPED DOWN

<Janet> WE HAVE GOTTEN OUR PAPER REALLY WET

<Janet> AND WE ARE FLOATING COLORS INTO THE WATER ON OUR PAPER

<Lynn> thanks - I'm glad I didn't miss the whole thing!

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> THE FEELING HERE IS THAT YOU ARE MANIPULATING THE WATER RATHER THAN PAINTING THE PAPER

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> AM I MAKING ANY SENSE AT ALL?

<brenda> yes lots

<LiBsTeR> yes

<Janet> ONCE YOU START TO DO IT, IT WILL MAKE SENSE

<sweetp> yea - i'm getting it

<Janet> THE PAINT FEATHERS OUT

<brenda> i have taken this class several times

<Janet> AND WHERE YOUR COLORS TOUCH, IT BLENDS

<Janet> LOL BRENDA

<brenda> and this time i am understanding it

<Janet> I DO IT DIFFERENT EVERY TIME

<brenda> this is the good one

<Janet> IT REALLY HELPS TO BE PAINTING ALONG

<brenda> roflol

<Janet> PAINTERS?? HOW IS THIS GOING FOR YOU?

<vicki> this one has green skies

<Janet> COOL!

<labelle> cool clouds

<Janet> AS YOU'RE PAINTING I'LL TELL YOU MY FAVORITE QUICK AND EASY CARD

<brenda> yes

<Janet> I DO A WASH LIKE THIS (THIS IS CALLED A WASH, WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW)

<Janet> IN WHATEVER COLORS I FEEL LIKE

<brenda> more than one color?

<Janet> WHEN IT'S COMPLETELY BONE DRY (YES, MORE THAN ONE COLOR, USE AS MANY COLORS AS YOU FEEL LIKE)

<Janet> BUT DON'T USE THEM STRAIGHT OUT OF THE PAN OR TUBE, GET THEM INTO A PUDDLE OF WATER ON YOUR PALETTE FIRST

<Janet> THEN FLOAT THE COLORED WATER

<Janet> ON YOUR PAPER

<brenda> ok

<Janet> I LIKE TO BUY EMBOSSING POWDER. I LOVE EMBOSSING POWDER. THE WILDER THE COLOR THE BETTER.

<Janet> I ALMOST NEVER EMBOSS MY STAMPING

<brenda> ok

<Janet> SO I HAVE A PREMIERE COLLECTION OF EP I NEVER USE

<brenda> lol

<labelle> me, too

<Janet> SO I PAINT CARDS WITH WATERCOLOR WASHES

<Janet> I PROBABLY HAVE 20-30 OF THESE IN A BOX (SOMEWHERE, NEED TO FIND THEM AGAIN)

<Janet> AND WHEN SOMEONE IS SICK OR I REALIZE I'VE MISSED A BIRTHDAY OR NEED A CARD REAL QUICK

<Janet> I PULL ONE OF THESE, STAMP TEXT ON IT, EMBOSS IT WITH ONE OF MY MANY COLORS OF EP

<Janet> AND CALL IT A POSTCARD. SLAP A STAMP ON THE BACK AND OFF IT GOES

<cak> (these are so much fun and quick that you can make a lot in one sitting--if you've got the room)

<sweetp> ooooooo ahhhhhh

<cak> sounds like sweetp's feathering going well

<Janet> IF YOU GET THE BLOCK OF PAPER, YOU CAN TAPE THE EDGES AND RUN MASKING TAPE DOWN THE MIDDLE TO MASK OFF LIKE FOUR CARD-SIZED AREAS

<Janet> PAINT IT ALL AT ONCE

<Janet> WHEN IT'S DRY, YOU'VE GOT FOUR CARDS

<Janet> ALL DIFFERENT

<Janet> JUST CUT THEM APART

<sweetp> cooool

<sweetp> I'm using the mental feathering technique

<Janet> STAMP WHAT YOU WANT ON THEM

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> OR BLOW ON IT, THAT WILL FEATHER THE PAINT IN THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO

<Janet> HAVE FUN!

<brenda> i love idea of four cards at once

<Janet> THE KEY HERE IS TO HAVE FUN!

<brenda> yes

<sweetp> fun, fun, fun!

<Janet> SHAKE SPLASHES OF PAINT ON YOUR WET PAPER, WATCH IT FEATHER OUT

<Janet> THIS IS FUN STUFF!

<Janet> IT WILL DRY LIGHTER THAN IT LOOKS NOW, TOO

<Janet> SO DON'T BE WORRIED YOU'VE PAINTED SOMETHING REALLY GARISH

<Janet> IT WILL DRY LIGHTER

<Janet> AND IF IT IS JUST REALLY BRIGHT?

<Janet> STAMP SOMETHING IN BLACK ON TOP AND IT WILL BE DYNAMIC!

<Janet> ONE YEAR I DID CHRISTMAS CARDS THIS WAY (FOUR AT A TIME)

<cak> lol (design at work)

<Janet> AND STAMPED GOLD EMBOSSED ANGELS IN THE SKY

<Janet> GOT LOTS OF COMPLIMENTS

<cak> sounds lovely

<Janet> SOME OF MY ANGELS WEREN'T STAMPED ALL THAT CLEANLY EITHER

<Janet> THOSE HAD "IMPRESSIONS OF ANGELS AT THIS HOLY SEASON" ON THE BACK

<sweetp> and here I am spending hours on X-Mas cards!

<Janet> (I HAVE NO SHAME)

rabbitsmom forgets to send out Xmas cards every year

<sweetp> lol

<Janet> HOW IS THE PAINTING COMING??

<cak> (you have brains, not shame--a very good thing)

<Janet> WE ARE ALMOST READY FOR YOUR FIRST BIT OF MAGIC THIS HOUR

<Janet> LOL

<vicki> you're supposed to SEND them????

<Janet> LOL!!

<sweetp> lol

<Janet> WHEN YOU'RE PLEASED WITH YOUR WASH BUT WANT SOMETHING A BIT EXTRA?

<rabbitsmom> I've been told

<gemr> Why is some text in purple?

<Janet> OR WANT A SNOWY SKY?

<Janet> THAT'S AN ACTION, GAIL. ADVANCED CHAT<G>

<Janet> SPRINKLE A BIT OF SALT ON YOUR WET PAINTING

<gemr> All I've got are streaks of color. Doesn't look like anything else.

<Janet> THEN THROW A FEW GRAINS OF SALT ON THERE

<gemr> Advanced chat? I can't even handle normal chat. How did I do that?

<brenda> more water gail

<Janet> ANYWHERE THE SALT LANDS, IT WILL SUCK UP SOME OF YOUR PAINT

<Janet> YOU CAN'T REALLY CONTROL WHAT THE SALT DOES

<cak> (advanced chat = letting the program do it for you and taking credit for it)

<Janet> YOU CAN CONTROL WHERE IT LANDS, BUT SOMETIMES IT PULLS UP A LOT OF PAINT AND YOU GET WHITE DOTS

<Janet> SOMETIMES IT MAKES CRYSTAL LOOKING AREAS

<Janet> THIS IS THE MAGIC PART

<Janet> YOU PUT THE SALT ON IT AND IT'S MAGIC WHAT HAPPENS

<cak> it's a wonderful effect

<gemr> I guess it's pretty, but all it looks like is a rainbow without the curve. *g*

<Janet> (IT'S REALLY CHEMICAL, SALT PICKING UP THE PIGMENT, BUT IT'S MAGIC TO ME)

<Lynn> how do you get the salt off without making a mess?

<rabbitsmom> that's what you did on the tree sample

<Janet> LYNN, YOU WAIT UNTIL IT IS TOTALLY DRY

<Janet> LIKE TOMORROW

<Janet> THEN YOU BRUSH THE SALT OFF OVER A TRASH CAN

<Janet> THIS IS THE HARDEST PART

<Janet> NOT TOUCHING YOUR SALT UNTIL IT IS TOTALLY DRY

<sweetp> patience is a virtue....

<sweetp> that I don't have

<rabbitsmom> not mine

<Janet> SO IF YOU WANT TO GET SNOW OR SPECKLES OR SOME OF THE EFFECTS LIKE YOU SEE IN THE SAMPLES

<Janet> PUT A LITTLE SALT HERE AND THERE ON YOUR WET PAINTING

<gemr> ok. now I have an uncurved rainbow with salt on it. Now what? *g*

<Janet> THEN SET IT ASIDE, WE ARE FINISHED WITH PROJECT 1

<Janet> SET IT ASIDE AND TAPE DOWN ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER

<Janet> (AND TONIGHT OR TOMORROW BRUSH OFF THE SALT AND BE AMAZED)

<Janet> IF YOU CLICK ON PROJECT ONE, THERE'S A SNOWY SKY AT THE VERY BOTTOM

<Janet> THE PHARMACIST PAINTED THAT

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> I WANTED TO TAKE A MOVIE OF HOW THE PAINT FEATHERS OUT ON WET PAPER

<gemr> how can I click on project 1 w/o losing you guys?

<Janet> AND HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THE CAMERA AS I PAINTED AND HE GOOFED UP

<Janet> SO I MADE HIM PAINT SO I COULD DO THE CAMERA

<cak> lol

<Janet> AND THAT BOTTOM SNOWY SKY IS WHAT HE GOT

<cak> he did good though

<sweetp> that's so pretty

<Janet> HE DOES =NOT= DO ART AT ALL!!

<Janet> HE HELD THE PAINTBRUSH LIKE IT WAS AN ICE PICK

<Janet> HE WAS VERY FUNNY TO WATCH

<Janet> BUT THAT IS PROOF THAT ANYBODY CAN DO THIS, EVEN PHARMACISTS UNDER DURESS

<cak> (gemr, you may not be able to since you're using the chat page. You might try opening another browser window, but come back if the program dumps you)

<sweetp> the friday 13th painter....

<Janet> THAT'S WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE!

<Janet> HELD THE BRUSH LIKE IT WAS A WEAPON OR SOMETHING

<sweetp> scary music in my head.....

<Janet> AND COMPLAINED THE WHOLE TIME HE WAS PAINTING

<sweetp> lol

<cak> I bet he liked what he did though

<Janet> SO SET THAT ONE YOU'VE JUST SALTED ASIDE AND TAPE DOWN ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER

<Janet> HE WAS SO IMPRESSED!!

<Janet> HE WAS SHOWING IT OFF LATER

<LiBsTeR> lol

<Janet> YESTERDAY HE CALLED FROM WORK, ASKED WHERE =HIS= PAINTING WAS, HE WANTED TO SHOW THE CLERKS AT WORK

<cak> LOL

<sweetp> lol

<Janet> (APPARENTLY ECKERDS HAS INTERNET NOW)

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<brenda> lol janet

<Janet> SO TAPE DOWN ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER

<Janet> AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MASK OFF THE GROUND TO MAKE SNOW

<Janet> YOU CAN MASK OFF THE GROUND WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS

rabbitsmom just saw the cat inspecting your work , cute

<Janet> I LIKE TO USE RUBBER CEMENT

<Janet> THAT CAT

<Janet> HE HAS TO LICK EVERYTHING

<sweetp> yumm

<Janet> IF YOU HAVE RUBBER CEMENT, PAINT IN YOUR GROUND

<rabbitsmom> must be fun

<Janet> WITH THE RUBBER CEMENT

<Janet> IF YOU HAVE THE LIQUID FRISKET THEY SELL AT THE ART STORE, THAT WORKS WELL

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> IF YOU DON'T HAVE EITHER ONE, CUT CURVES IN A PIECE OF MASKING TAPE AND USE THAT

<Janet> THEN MASK UNDERNEATH YOUR CURVES WITH OTHER PIECES OF TAPE

<Janet> AND YOUR GROUND IS MASKED

<Janet> LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'VE GOTTEN THAT FAR

<Janet> (Y'ALL ARE SO QUIET, ARE YOU ASLEEP OR PAINTING?)

<labelle> mask the bottom of the paper, only leaving sky?

<brenda> i am here

<sweetp> mentally masking

<ladyred> Janet I just brought up your site the one your talking about is in projects or samples

<Janet> YES! MASK THE BOTTOM, LEAVE THE SKY

<Janet> WE'RE DOING THE SECOND PROJECT NOW. IT IS UNDER THE PROJECT LINK

<Janet> AND IF YOU CLICK THE WINTER SCENE THAT IS PROJECT 2, YOU CAN SEE THE STEPS

<ladyred> k

<Janet> WHEN YOU'RE MASKED OFF

<Janet> PAINT THE SKY JUST LIKE WE DID THE WASH IN PROJECT 1

<Janet> THEN TELL ME WHEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR SKY DONE

<ladyred> I love that card

<Janet> THIS IS EASY TO DO

<ladyred> I don't have the stuff to make it .....yet......lol

<sweetp> yet........

<Janet> WATERCOLOR PAPER, WATERCOLORS (PRANGS FROM THE GROCERY STORE WORK JUST FINE), SALT, MASKING TAPE, RUBBER CEMENT

<Janet> A TREE STAMP

<Janet> OR A SNOWMAN STAMP

<Janet> OR ANYTHING YOU MIGHT WANT IN A SCENE

<Janet> YOU DN'T EVEN HAVE TO DO SNOW

<Janet> I'VE DONE THE SAME THING THEN PAINTED THE GROUND AS FIELDS OF GRAIN

<Janet> FIELDS OF GOLD (SING IT IN YOUR HEAD lol)

<Janet> GAIL IS BACK!

<Janet> SKIES DONE YET?

<labelle> hmm, doesn't look much like anything

<Janet> OR ARE YOU STILL MASKING THE GROUNDS

<Janet> IT WILL

<Janet> ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR SKY DONE, YOU'LL WANT TO MAKE THAT TREE LINE AT THE HORIZON LINE

<gemr> I got lost. :( I was trying to see the samples, and I lost the chat room. :)

<Janet> AND THIS IS THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THAT

<Janet> GET GREEN OR GRAY, GRAY GREEN IS GOOD

<Janet> NOT PURE ANYTHING! THERE'S NO STRAIGHT OUT OF THE PAN COLOR IN THE NATURAL WORLD

<Janet> SO MIX UP A NICE COLOR YOU LIKE FOR A TREE LINE AT THE HORIZON LINE...

<Janet> AND MAKE DOTS OF PAINT RIGHT ON YOUR MASKED LINE

<Janet> WHERE THE DOTS ARE PARTLY ON THE PAPER AND PARTLY ON YOUR MASK

<Janet> AND IT WILL LOOK BAD

<Janet> BUT DO IT

<Janet> WHILE YOUR SKY IS STILL WET

<Janet> SO YOUR TREE LINE WILL START TO FEATHER UP A LITTLE BIT INTO YOUR SKY

<Janet> WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR DOTS ON

<Janet> GET YOUR SALT

<Janet> AND MAKE LITTLE MOUNDS OF SALT ON YOUR DOTS

<Janet> USE YOUR FINGERS TO MAKE LITTLE PILES OF SALT RIGHT ON THE TREE LINE DOTS

<Janet> WHEN THIS DRIES...

<Janet> THE SALT WILL HAVE SUCKED UP MOST OF THE COLOR OF THE DOTS

<Janet> AND MAGICALLY MADE LITTLE BRANCHES, SORT OF

<Janet> IT WORKS

<Janet> YOU'LL HAVE TO TRUST ME ON THIS, BEFORE YOU PUT THE SALT ON, THE DOTS LOOK PRETTY ICKY

<Janet> TELL ME WHEN YOU'VE GOT THAT DONE

<vickieb> done

<Janet> (HI, DEBBIE, WE'RE DOING PROJECT 2 ON http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/projects.html )

<debbie_in_> hi

<labelle> okay

<Janet> THE SAMPLE DOESN'T LOOK AS GOOD AS YOURS WILL EITHER

<Janet> I WAS DOING THE SCANS BETWEEN EACH STEP AND I DIDN'T SALT MY TREES FAST ENOUGH BECAUSE I WAS SCANNING TOO

<Janet> NOW SET THAT ONE ASIDE

<Janet> WHEN IT IS DRY, REALLY DRY...

<Janet> YOU'LL TAKE OFF YOUR MASKING AND BRUSH YOUR SALT OFF...

<Janet> THEN USE YOUR DIRTY PAINT WATER TO PAINT IN THE SNOW

<Janet> MAYBE PAINT SHADOWS IN IT

<Janet> BUT PAINT THE SNOW

<Janet> DON'T TAKE OFF YOUR TAPE THAT IS HOLDING DOWN YOUR PAPER, JUST TAKE OFF WHATEVER YOU'VE USED TO MASK OFF THE GROUND

<Janet> THEN WHEN YOUR GROUND IS DRY, STAMP IN WHATEVER YOU LIKE IN THE FOREGROUND

<labelle> did you stamp the trees?

<Janet> I STAMPED THE TREES

<Janet> THAT'S THE REALLY SMALL STAMPSCAPE TREES STAMP

<Janet> FOR OUR SECOND HOUR OF WATERCOLORS, WE'RE GOING TO PAINT IN A STAMPED IMAGE

<Janet> AND TALK ABOUT PROJECT 3

<Janet> (PAINTING A STAMPED IMAGE IS PROJECT 4)

<labelle> I'm ready

<Janet> SO LET'S TAKE A QUICK STRETCH AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING STAMPED TO PAINT, GO STAMP AND EMBOSS SOMETHING

<cak> Janet, may I ask a question about that tree line?

<Janet> SURE

<cak> do you use more pigment when putting the dots down?

<cak> (since so much is being salt-sucked?)

<Janet> I USUALLY DO, A LITTLE MORE PAINT AND A LITTLE LESS WATER

<Janet> THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS PRETTY ICKY BEFORE YOU SALT IT

<cak> thanks!

<Janet> NOW ON OUR STAMPED IMAGE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE NEARLY SO MUCH WATER SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAPE IT DOWN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO

<debbie_in_> Janet what kind of paper or stock are you watercoloring on

<Janet> ALTHOUGH, DEPENDS ON YOUR IMAGE, IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT A WATERCOLOR BACKGROUND WITH, YOU MAY WANT TO TAPE IT DOWN AND DO A WASH ON THE BACKGROUND

<Janet> MOST OF MINE I USED 140 LB HOT PRESS WATERCOLOR PAPER

<debbie_in_> great. thats what I use too

<Janet> SOME OF THE STAMPED IMAGES STARTED OUT AS JUST EXPERIMENTS AND THEY WERE STAMPED AND PAINTED ON INDEX CARDS

<Janet> AND A COUPLE WERE ON JUST PLAIN OLD CARDSTOCK

<debbie_in_> i use my 110# card stock for experiments

<Janet> IF YOU USE A LOT OF WATER, CARDSTOCK WILL GO LUMPY ON YOU

<Janet> THE LOVELY OPHELIA (THE LINK TO PROJECT 4)

<Janet> I JUST WANTED TO SEE HER

<Janet> THAT'S ON AN INDEX CARD

<debbie_in_> she is lovely

<Janet> I WAS CLEANING MY DESK, OR TRYING TO, YESTERDAY AND RAN ACROSS THAT I'D STAMPED THE DAY MY STAMPSMITH ORDER CAME

<cak> I love your Ophelia!

<Janet> AND THE WATERCOLORS WERE STILL OUT FROM SATURDAY

<Janet> SHE IS SO EASY TO WATERCOLOR!!!

<brenda> opelia looks great watercolored

<debbie_in_> what medium of watercolor are you using...tube, pencil, cake

<Janet> UHHH THIS IS EMBARRASSING

<Fiddy> crayola brand?

<Janet> THE BLUE OF HER IS TUBES

<Janet> WORSE, LC

<Janet> I COULDN'T FIND MY GREEN TUBE OF PAINT

<Janet> I COULDN'T FIND MY PANS OF WATERCOLOR

<Janet> I FOUND MY GREEN MARVEY MATCHABLE INK PAD

<brenda> lol

<cak> lol

<Janet> SO PART OF HER IS PAINTED WITH GREEN MARVEY INK PAD

<cak> (any port in a storm!)

<Janet> I JUST WANTED TO SEE HOW SHE'D LOOK

<Janet> AND I DIDN'T WANT TO STAND UP

<debbie_in_> this sounds like my kinda watercoloring then...i use what I can reach LOL

<Janet> WHY I TAKE NO EXCUSES FOR NOT PAINTING IN WATERCOLOR CLASS. INK PADS WILL WORK

<cak> (sounds like my kinda *everything*)

<Janet> MARVEY MARKERS WILL WORK, JUST SCRIBBLE THEM ON A PAPER PLATE AND USE IT AS A PAINT PALETTE

<sweetp> me too

<sparkle> (i'm at work, that's my excuse for not painting)

<sparkle> <G>

<Janet> NOW DYE INKS WILL FADE OVER TIME, SO DON'T BE PAINTING MASTERPIECES WITH THEM

<Janet> BUT THEY WILL WORK!

<cak> lol--we'll try to contain ourselves

<sweetp> Sparkle - I'm mentally painting while I slave :)

<Janet> (THAT EXCUSE WILL WORK, SORT OF. I KNOW HOW WELL YOU HAVE YOUR BOSSES TRAINED)

<sweetp> :)

<Janet> SO DOES EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR STAMPED IMAGE HERE READY TO START PAINTING AGAIN?

<sweetp> I have mine trained to stay away!

<debbie_in_> well, I cannot get to my stamping area at the moment...

<labelle> lead on, pls

<vickieb> I'm ready

<Janet> OKAY!

<Janet> HERE'S A CONCEPT FOR YOU, KEEP THIS IN YOUR HEAD AS YOU DO YOUR IMAGES...

<gemr> yes, I have a stamped image and I'm back . . . again

<Janet> BECAUSE WATERCOLOR IS TRANSPARENT...

<Janet> YOU'RE PAINTING WHAT MAY SEEM BACKWARDS...

<Janet> YOU'RE PAINTING LIGHT TO DARK

<Janet> YOU'LL PAINT LIGHT AREAS FIRST AND KEEP PUTTING ON VERY SHEER LAYERS OF WATERCOLOR TO ARRIVE AT DARKER AREAS

kristi must just think backwards

<Janet> SO PICK AN AREA TO PAINT FIRST...

<Janet> THE STEP BY STEP PAGE OF THIS IS AT http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/project4.html

<Janet> AND I DID GRAPES THERE

<vickieb> do we get our paper wet first

<Janet> AND PAINTED THEM GRAPE BY GRAPE

<Janet> VICKIE, WITH A STAMPED IMAGE, COLORING THAT IN, YOU'LL PICK AN AREA TO PAINT AND JUST PAINT THAT AREA WITH WATER FIRST

<Janet> THIS IS A VERY COOL THING...

<vickieb> ok

<Janet> WHATEVER YOU PAINT WITH WATER IS WHERE THE COLOR WILL GO WHEN YOU START PUTTING COLOR IN

<Janet> AND SO IF YOU PAINT CLEAR WATER "IN THE LINES" THEN YOUR COLOR WILL STAY WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO

<Janet> WITH MY GRAPES i PAINTED ONE GRAPE

<Janet> THEN ANOTHER GRAPE NOT TOUCHING THE FIRST

<Janet> AND MOVED AROUND THE BUNCH

<Janet> ONLY PAINTING GRAPES WHERE NOTHING WAS WET AROUND THE GRAPE I WANTED TO WORK ON

<Janet> MAKE SENSE?

<cak> yep

<Janet> SO LIKE WITH THAT OPHELIA I PAINTED THAT DRAPE OF HERS FIRST WITH CLEAR WATER, THEN PICKED UP SOME BLUE PAINT IN MY BRUSH

<Janet> AND JUST RAN THE TIP OF MY BRUSH ON THE LINES

<Janet> AND THAT BLUE FEATHERED OUT INTO THE AREAS

<Janet> AND MADE A NATURAL SHADOW

<brenda> http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/project4.html

<Janet> SO THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE AIMING FOR

<Janet> PAINT WATER IN THE AREA YOU WANT ONE COLOR...

<Janet> THEN PICK UP PIGMENT IN YOUR BRUSH AND JUST RUN YOUR BRUSH TIP ON THE LINES

<Janet> AND THE COLOR WILL FEATHER INTO YOUR AREA YOU'VE PAINTED WITH CLEAR WATER

<Janet> TRY IT

<Janet> REPORT BACK HOW THAT WORKS

<cak> Janet, about how long does it take for one area to dry before you can paint next to it?

<Janet> YOU'RE NOT USING A WHOLE LOT OF WATER, SO NOT THAT LONG, MAYBE 5-10 MINUTES

<Janet> HI WIZZ

<Janet> WE'RE PAINTING IN STAMPED IMAGES NOW

<cak> oh! quick!

<Janet> NOW YOU MIGHT WANT ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT WATERCOLORING TOOL HERE...

<vickieb> this is so cool

<Janet> A PAPER TOWEL!

<Janet> IF YOU DECIDE SOMETHING IS TOO DARK ?

<Janet> TAKE THE TIP OF YOUR PAPER TOWEL AND SUCK UP SOME OF THE COLOR IN THE MIDDLE

<Janet> INSTANT HIGHLIGHTING!

<cak> I might even be able to do this

<Janet> WITH THOSE GRAPES

<Janet> I PAINTED WATER IN THE GRAPE

<Janet> THEN PAINTED PURPLE AROUND THE EDGES

<Janet> THEN KEPT PAINTING PURPLE AROUND THE EDGES UNTIL IT WAS AS DARK AS I WANTED

<Janet> (LAYERS OF WATERCOLOR)

<Janet> AND OCCASIONALLY MY PAINT WOULD FEATHER TOO DARK IN THE MIDDLE

<Janet> AND I'D GRAB UP MY PAPER TOWEL

<Janet> AND TOUCH THE MIDDLE WITH A CORNER OF IT

<brenda> http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/project4.html

<Janet> MAGIC

<Janet> THIS IS SO EASY

<labelle> So, the grapes are all one color of purple, just applied in layers?

<Janet> NOW WITH THE OPHELIA?

<gemr> LOL easy for you to say . . . :)

<Janet> YES, THEY ARE!

<Janet> OPHELIA AT THE BOTTOM OF http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/projects.html

<gemr> is there a pic of the grapes?

<brenda> http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/project4.html

<Janet> INKY, OPHELIA AT THE BOTTOM OF http://cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/projects.html

<brenda> there ya go gail

<Janet> YES, CLICK OPHELIA TO GET TO THE GRAPES

<gemr> okay, Ophelia. You guys are too fast for me. LOL

<Janet> WHICH IS THE URL BRENDA JUST SAID

<Janet> WELL, WITH OPHELIA'S FACE I WANTED SOME PINKISH IN HER LIPS

<Janet> SO WHILE THAT FACE WAS STILL DAMP

<Janet> I PICKED UP PINK IN MY BRUSH AND JUST TOUCHED THOSE LIPS

<Janet> YOU'LL GET A FEEL FOR THIS

<Janet> HOW DAMP YOUR PAPER IS AND HOW MUCH THE PAINT WILL SPREAD

<Janet> AS YOUR PAPER GETS DRIER, THE PAINT SPREADS LESS

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> HI, KAY

<Janet> E

<kaye> hey janet

<kaye> sorry im late

<Janet> HOW IS THIS GOING FOR YOU ALL?

<vickieb> this is great

<Janet> HI HEATHER.

<Janet> WE'RE PAINTING IN IMAGES NOW

<Janet> PROJECT 4

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Keribou> ty

<Janet> NOW IF YOU HAD AN IMAGE YOU WANTED A PALE WATERCOLORED BACKGROUND ON?

<Janet> YOU WOULD HAVE PAINTED THE WHOLE BACKGROUND (AND THE IMAGE IN THE BACKGROUND COLOR) FIRST

<Janet> LET THAT DRY, THEN STARTED IN PAINTING THE IMAGE

<gemr> I think this is going to be fun, but need LOTS of practice :)

<Janet> YOUR LAST FINAL DETAILS?

<Janet> YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO WITH AN AMOST DRY BRUSH AND STRAIGHT PAINT ON DRY PAPER

<labelle> can you point out where you've done that?

<Janet> PLAYING WITH IT IS THE BEST WAY TO REALLY KNOW HOW THE PAINT REACTS

<gemr> On the plant pictures, how did you keep the stems so narrow?

<Janet> SURE LET ME LOOK

<Janet> THANK YOU GAIL!

<Janet> ON THE PLANT PICTURES I PAINTED THE STEMS WITH ALMOST DRY BRUSH AND ALMOST STRAIGHT PAINT ON DRY PAPER!

<labelle> wherefore art the plant pictures?

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> ON THE SAMPLE PAGE

<gemr> ok. What size brush should I be using? Mine may be too skimpy.

<Janet> GAIL, DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF AREA YOU ARE PAINTING

<Janet> THE BACKGROUNDS I USE A BIG PAINTBRUSH

<Janet> BUT THE DETAILS I USE A SMALL ONE

<gemr> duh! can you tell I'm new at this. . .

<Janet> THOSE PLANT STEMS I THINK THAT WAS A 0 SIZE BRUSH

<Janet> THE REALLY FINE DETAILS I USE THE PAINT BRUSH THE CAT ATE

<secondstar> Janet, can you tell us about best brushes to use?

<kaye> questions are good gemr

<Janet> THERE'S ABOUT SIX HAIRS LEFT IN THAT ONE

<Janet> I PERSONALLY LIKE THE ROUNDED RED SABLE BRUSHES

<Janet> THEY ARE NOT CHEAP

<gemr> :) That's good. I usually have lots. :)

<Janet> AND THE CATS LOVE TO EAT THEM

<secondstar> thought that was probably what i needed

<Janet> PAINT WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT AND WHAT IS COMFORTABLE TO YOU

<kaye> my cats steal my brushes

<Janet> SOFTER BRUSHES ARE EASIER TO USE WITH WATERCOLORS

<secondstar> goodie - now an excuse to splurge and buy them :)

rabbitsmom keeps her dry brushes in a pencil case to keep pets off them

<Janet> MY CATS ARE BAD ABOUT STEALING MY PAINT BRUSHES

<secondstar> atffy only steals my fibers

<Janet> THE GINGER CAT THAT'S ON A LOT OF MY CLASS PAGES LIKES TO LICK THINGS TOO

<rabbitsmom> my bunnies will chew anything

<gemr> would a dove blender with watercolors give you the same effect? What about that new water brush that's out?

<Janet> HE LICKS MY WET WATERCOLORS, HE DRINKS MY PAINT WATER

<Janet> I HAVEN'T PLAYED WITH THE NEW WATERBRUSH BUT I'VE HEARD IT IS GREAT

<kaye> the water brush is awesome

<rabbitsmom> who sells the waterbrush ?

<Janet> I AM A DOVE BLENDER FAILURE. I'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WITH IT THAT LOOKED GOOD. PEOPLE SWEAR BY IT, THOUGH

<kaye> hobby lobby

<Janet> APPALOOSA MIGHT

<rabbitsmom> no hobby lobby in Canada

<brenda> i love the blender with watrercolor pencils

<kaye> sorry

<kaye> look at art supply stores

<sweetp> I've seen stuff done with the waterbrushes - real cool

<Janet> AND YEAH, YOU CAN FIND THESE THINGS LOCALLY TOO

<rabbitsmom> will check AP

<gemr> I love using the dove with chalks. I think you get the same look as this . . .

<kaye> you can use bleach in the water brush

<vicki> I love my waterbrushes

<Janet> I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IF YOU STAMP AN IMAGE WITH REGULAR DYE INK AND LET IT DRY, THEN USE THE WATERBRUSH...

<kaye> for really cool stuff

<Janet> AND PULL THE INK JUST SLIGHTLY INTO THE IMAGES LIKE SOFTENING THE SHADOWS, THAT LOOKS HAND PAINTED AND IS FAST AND EASY

<Janet> THE THEORY SOUNDS GOOD, I'VE DONE IT WITH A PLAIN BRUSH AND WATER BEFORE

<kaye> ooh have to try that

<Janet> I MAINLY JUST KNOW WATERCOLORS.

<rabbitsmom> art supply stores in canada scare me , way to expensive

<Janet> RABBITSMOM, USE THEM TO BUY JUST A COUPLE GOOD BRUSHES AND PAPER

<Janet> MAIL ORDER THE REST :)

<vicki> waterbrushes run about $10.00

<gemr> Janet, I think the chalk with the blender works the same way. The color depends on how wet the blender is.

<Janet> THAT MAKES SENSE

<rabbitsmom> I get my brushes at Michaels , use the 40% off cupons

<Janet> SO BEFORE I USE THE REST OF OUR TIME FOR QUESTIONS, HOW ARE THE PAINTINGS COMING ALONG?

<vicki> worth every cent

<gemr> I'll have to remember that the watercolors work the same as the blender with chalks. I do that a lot. :)

<cak> (deafening silence here)

<Janet> MOST STAMP IMAGES ARE SO EASY TO MAKE LOOK SHARP WITH WATERCOLORS

<Janet> (THEY'RE PAINTING!!)

<labelle> what about project #3?

<Janet> OH! PROJECT #3 IS SO EASY SO FUN

<kristi> yes, what did you stamp with??? versamark/resist??

<Janet> THAT IS JUST AN IMAGE, STAMPED WITH CLEAR INK AND EMBOSSED IN CLEAR...

<Janet> THEN WITH A WATERCOLORED WASH ON THE TOP OF THAT

<vicki> I had to stop painting, I was missing all the instruction!

<Janet> I STAMPED WITH THE OLD PINK TINTED BOSS EMBOSSING PAD BECAUSE I WANTED IT TO SHOW UP IN MY STEP BY STEP PICTURES

<Janet> BUT A VERSAMARK THEN EMBOSSED WITH CLEAR, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE LOOKED BETTER

<Janet> THIS IS A VERY QUICK AND EASY AND DYNAMIC CARD OR BACKGROUND, JUST STAMP AND EMBOSS IN CLEAR ON WATERCOLOR PAPER, THEN PAINT YOUR WASH (LIKE WE DID IN PROJECT 1) ON THE TOP

<Janet> INSTANT ART!

<sweetp> so easy too

<gemr> Ha! I'm finally getting the hang of this class thing. I know where you all are. LOL

<Janet> WOO HOO GAIL!

<brenda> yippie gail

<cak> Janet, would a just-plain versamark resist the water enough to use wihthout embossing?

<gemr> it's the little thiings that make me happy. :)

<cak> (that's the hardest part, gail)

<Janet> I ALSO DID THAT OLYMPIC BACKGROUND STAMPED AND EMBOSSED IN GOLD THEN WITH A BLUE WASH BEHIND IT, THAT WAS AWESOME LOOKING

<Janet> I DON'T KNOW, CAK, TRY IT AND REPORT BACK

<cak> I will!

<Janet> I WOULD THINK IT WOULD IF YOU DID THE WASH RIGHT AWAY

<cak> (add it to the bottom of the loooooong to-try list)

<Janet> IT WOULD MAKE A FAINTER PATTERN AND WOULD LOOK REALLY COOL, I'D THINK

<labelle> especially on cold press, huh?

<Janet> LOOK ON THE SAMPLES PAGE, ABOUT TWO OR THREE DOWN, THERE'S A MAGNOLIA (AAS)

<cak> oh yes! cold press would be wonderfully textured

<Janet> OH YEAH, ON COLD PRESS, THAT WOULD JUST BE DYNAMIC WITH THE SLIGHT TEXTURE AND ALL

<rabbitsmom> are those stamps (olympic background) avail unmounted ?

<Janet> NO, THEY ARE JUST MOUNTED, OLYMPIC COMMITTEE HAD A CONTROLLING SAY IN THAT DECISION

<labelle> durn!

<Janet> THEY SAID MOUNTED ONLY. SETS ONLY. YADA YADA YADA

<Janet> (SO I RIPPED MINE OFF THE WOOD)

<labelle> back to the magnolia ---

<cak> lol

<Janet> OH YES, BACK TO THE MAGNOLIA.

<Janet> AT THE VERY END OF PAINTING THIS, IT WAS PRETTY MUCH DRY...

<gemr> this is too much fun. Another technique to work on.

<rabbitsmom> well I want them but I can get a whole sheet of stamps or those 2

<Janet> I TOOK A TINY BRUSH (YES, THE ONE THE CAT ATE WITH THE SIX REMAINING HAIRS) AND USED ALMOST STRAIGHT PAINT RIGHT ON THE LINES OF THOSE LEAVES

<Janet> AND THE VERY LAST THING I DID ON THAT MAGNOLIA WAS THE CENTER

<Janet> AND THAT WAS THE NEXT DAY

<Janet> I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE OF THE CENTER PAINT GETTING ON MY BLOSSOM PEDALS

<Janet> PETALS

<Janet> THE ONE BELOW THAT (STAMP CAMP GAL) I DID IN ABOUT FIVE SECONDS

<Janet> SWISH SWISH WITH COLOR HERE AND THERE, CALLED IT ART

<cak> so wet the petals, draw the line of paint along the outside and let it feather in? or did you pull the color into the middle?

<gemr> all the samples are gorgeous, Janet.

<cak> (magnolia that is)

<Janet> ON DOWN THERE'S A SAMPLE ON DARK PAPER

<Janet> THAT'S POWDERED MICA (PEARL EX, POWDERED PEARLS, THAT STUFF) MIXED IN WATERCOLORS AND PAINTED ON THE DARK PAPER

<vicki> is the magnolia embossed, or just stamped?

<gemr> Is there a way I can keep the sample page open?

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> THE MAGNOLIA IS JUST STAMPED WITH PERMANENT INK

<gemr> I have it, but it minimizes every time I 'talk' :)

<Janet> GAIL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL WORK FOR YOU TO HAVE A SECOND BROWSER WINDOW OPEN

<Janet> NOT SURE, I BET IT'S GONNA MINIMIZE, YOU'RE ON AOL, AREN'T YOU?

<gemr> LOL too complicated, huh? No, I'm on prodigy.

<Janet> I BET IT'S THE SAME THING, THOUGH. PROBABLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH

<gemr> ok. it would be nice to keep the sample page open though. :)

<gemr> How did you get the 2 shades on the magnolia flowers? They're gorgeous@

<brenda> gail get mirc chat software from the download page

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> OH AND EVERYBODY ASKS ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF THE ONE WITH THE UMBRELLA DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THE SAMPLES

<gemr> I have the mirc software . . .

<Janet> THAT'S A MAP?

<TheQueen> i love project 3!!!!

<brenda> gail come to cyberstampers then for someone to talk you thru installing it

<Janet> GAIL, ON THOSE MAGNOLIA FLOWERS I JUST KEPT PAINTING, IT WAS THE SAME PUDDLE OF COLOR, BUT I DID THE WHOLE PETAL FIRST, THEN AS IT DRIED KEPT GOING BACK OVER THE LINES

<gemr> with what color, Janet?

<Janet> CHRIS, PROJECT 3 IS JUST STAMP AND EMBOSS WITH CLEAR INK AND CLEAR EP AND WATER COLOR OVER THE TOP

<WIZZ> i can't find the examples

<Janet> UHHH

<TheQueen> i thought so janet

<brenda> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Janet> A BROWN, THAT WAS RED AND GREEN AND YELLOW AND A LOT OF WATER

<gemr> go it.:)

<Janet> THERE'S A LINK TO THE SAMPLES OFF THE MAIN PAGE

<sweetp> since it is pearl-ex do you have to spray an adhesive?

<Janet> MAINLY A LOT OF WATER

<Janet> GOOD QUESTION!!

<Janet> SINCE YOU'RE MIXING THE PEARL EX INTO YOUR WATERCOLORS?

<Janet> THE PAINTS HAVE A BINDER

<sweetp> yea

<Janet> SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE A FIXATIVE AT ALL

<brenda> watercolors have a binder dont they?

<sweetp> oooh that's cool!

<Janet> YOU CAN ALSO MIX YOUR OWN PAINT JUST THEM AND WATER

<brenda> yep

<Janet> AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU CAN PUT YOUR OWN BINDER IN, THE GUM ARABIC

<Janet> OR YOU CAN PAINT THEM AND WHEN THEY'RE DRY SPRAY A FIXATIVE

<Janet> IF YOU DON'T FIX THEM THEN THEY'LL BRUSH RIGHT OFF THE PAPER

<sweetp> coool! I have all these little pearl-ex pots waiting for me to play :)

<Janet> BUT IF YOU MIX WITH YOUR PAINTS, THE BINDER IS ALREADY IN THERE

<Janet> AND YOU CAN CHOOSE IF YOU WANT A LOT OF SPARKLE OR JUST A LITTLE HINT OF IT

<labelle> the map?

<sweetp> ty so much for the pearl-ex tips!

<Janet> THE FISH, YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL FROM THE SCAN, BUT THOSE WERE PAINTED WITH INTERFERENCE IN THEM

<gemr> that pearl x stuff is messy!

<Janet> SO IN PERSON THE FISH GO PINK OR PURPLE OR BLUE DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY YOU HOLD THEM, THEY ARE VERY COOL

<Janet> OH! THE MAP!

<Janet> THAT IS (BLUSH) WRAPPING PAPER

<cak> (EI and Appaloosa are now selling mica powders with the binder already in it I think)

<Janet> I JUST STUCK THE WATERCOLORED IMAGE THAT i'D TORN OUT ON TOP OF WRAPPING PAPER

<TheQueen> you wrap your blush?

<labelle> looks real good to me

<Janet> OH YES, THE NEW PEARL EX POTS WITH THE BINDER IN THEM, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ORDER SOME OF THOSE, THEY LOOK SO COOL

<Janet> NO, I BLUSH MY WRAP.<G>

<brenda> lol

<vicki> I have that wrapping paper! didn't recognize it!!LOL

<labelle> a true artiste

<Janet> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M GOING TO END ON TIME!!

Janet IS SHOCKED, THAT ENDING ON TIME IS A HARD ONE

<kat> I love the stanmp on the last sample

<labelle> It was so informative and I love doing the projects right with you, thanks

<gemr> This was great, Janet! Thanks for your time. :)

<Janet> THOSE FAIRIES?

<brenda> janet great classes

<Susie> Thanks!

<kat> yes

<Janet> THOSE ARE YUMMY, THEY ARE ENCHANTED INK

<Kristin> grat class!

<kat> ty

<Kristin> great

<Janet> THE ONE RIGHT ABOVE THAT?

<Janet> THAT'S JUST LIKE WE DID IN PROJECT 2

<vicki> had fun, thanks

<Janet> I MASKED OFF THE GROUND

<AmyLPR> hi

<Janet> IT'S A STAMPSCAPES TREE STAMPED ON

<Janet> HI, AMY!

<sweetp> ty for the class - I've always wanted to know how to watercolor!

<sweetp> Hi Janet

<Janet> NOW YOU KNOW!!

<rabbitsmom> great class Janet , learned alot

<Janet> MAINLY JUST PLAY WITH THEM

<Janet> YOU'LL GET A FEEL FOR THEM

<kat> Thanks Janet, sorry I got here so late

<Janet> GOOD TO SEE YOU, KAT

<cak> the trees were stamped on???

<Janet> THE TREES WERE STAMPED ON

<AmyLPR> the samples are awessome Janet

<Janet> THE ONE WITH THE TREE TRUNKS UP A BIT

<Janet> I STAMPED ON

<Janet> THE STAMPING WAS JUST AWFUL

<Janet> THE PAPER WAS TOO ROUGH FOR A GOOD IMAGE

<gemr> were all of these projects 'wet on wet'?

<Janet> SO I PAINTED THEM IN

Janet> AND THEN USED MY X-ACTO KNIFE WHEN IT WAS DRY TO SCRATCH BARK

<cak> cool!

<Janet> NOT ALL OF THEM, GAIL, THE IMAGES WERE USUALLY WET ON WET, OR WET PAINT ON DRY PAPER

<Janet> THE REALLY DARK DETAILS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS DRY BRUSH ON DRY PAPER

<gemr> so, you 'paint' with clear water first, then layer color?

<Janet> PLAY AND YOU'LL GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THINGS LOOK HOW, AND HOW EACH DAMPNESS LEVEL OF YOUR PAPER WILL PAINT

<Janet> USUALLY THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I DO

<Janet> THE CLEAR WATER PAINTED FIRST KEEPS MY COLOR WHERE I WANT IT

<Janet> SO IT DOESN'T GO DRIPPING OFF INTO MY BACKGROUND OR SOMEONE'S FACE OR SOMETHING

<vicki> have you used Peerless w/c sheets?

<Janet> IT MAKES A BOUNDARY AND THE COLOR STAYS WHERE YOU'D PAINTED WATER

<Janet> YES, THOSE ARE GREAT FOR TRAVELING, SO EASY TO PACK!

<gemr> how careful are you to 'stay in the lines'?

<Janet> I AM NOT CAREFUL AT ALL

<Janet> LINES ARE MADE TO BE IGNORED<G>

<Janet> (THAT'S MY STORY AND I'M STICKING TO IT0

<brenda> that is hard for me to do

<AmyLPR> lol

<brenda> lines are hard to ignore

<Janet> THEY'RE HARD TO STAY IN, TOO

<brenda> lol

<brenda> yep

<labelle> thanks again, ttfn

<brenda> but i am anal about lines

<Janet> THANK YOU ALL FOR PAINTING WITH ME!!

<brenda> i have to force myself to go out of the lines

<Janet> I HAD A BLAST

<brenda> ty janet

<cak> thank you Janet--I always learn something from you!

<brenda> great class

<vicki> ty,Janet

<Janet> I ALWAYS LEARN SOMETHING FROM YOU, TOO!

<cak> (sounds like brenda needs to do a wash first, *then* add the lines

<sweetp> had lots of fun!

<Janet> REALLY!

<Janet> THANKS!!

<gemr> will putting the work under a heavy book flatten the paper ?

<Janet> I'M GONNA GO FIND SOME LUNCH.

<vickieb> this was a great class - I love watercoloring and I learned lots - thanks

<Janet> GAIL, IF YOU TAPE IT FIRST, THEN LEAVE IT TAPED DOWN, IT WILL DRY BACK FLAT

<gemr> ahhh good point. :)

<Janet> EXCELLENT!

<Janet> SEE YA AT KRISTI'S!

<kristi> not for an hour, yet, Janet!

<vickieb> thanks Janet

<gemr> going out of the lines for me doesn't look feathered. It just looks messy. :(

<MomCat> It looks messy to me if I do it

<cak> I wonder if you could look at a stamp and lay down the colors where you *think* they'll be and then stamp over it

<MomCat> but kewl and artistic if somebody else does it

<vickieb> bye

<Lynn> I missed chunks of this but I can't wait to try this out - thanks Janet

<brenda> cak someone taught a class with that technique

<brenda> at least similar

<cak> I think I'd like to try--I'm subject to the tyranny of lines too

Log file closed at 2/28/02 2:11:02 PM