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<LiBsTeR> http://www.secondstarontheright.com/wax.htm

<LiBsTeR> that works

<secondstar> thank you!

<LiBsTeR> http://www.secondstarontheright.com/crystalcards.htm

<LiBsTeR> this too

<LiBsTeR> I think it was the www was the problem! LOL

<LiBsTeR> :-)

<secondstar> and http://www.secondstarontheright.com/crystalcards.htm

<LiBsTeR> you are welcome

<LiBsTeR> OOOO I love that first card!

<secondstar> TOO MUCH TYPING - I SHOULD HAVE NAMED MY COMPANY FUSCJIA

<LiBsTeR> lol

<secondstar> FUSHIA

<secondstar> AS OPPOSED TO MAGENTA

<LiBsTeR> But I love PeterPan, 2nd star is soooo cool!

<deb> lol

<secondstar> OR JUST PINK

<LiBsTeR> rofl

<LiBsTeR> brb

<Froolap> Hi Lib.

<secondstar> SPARKLE - ARE YOU COMING TO PUYALLUP THIS YEAR?

<sparkle> Yep!

<secondstar> i'M GOING TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A PIZZA THING ON SAT EVE

<Fiddy> a pizza thing?

<Fiddy> lol

<secondstar> EAT PIZZA, COMPARE LOOT

<Fiddy> Hey, secondstar, I 'NEED' that new floral plate

<sparkle> Igg & I are pretty antisocial <G>

<secondstar> MY MOST POPULAR NEW ONE - IT HAS SOLD OUT TWICE ALREAY

<sparkle> 'cause that'll be my 6th show of the year and I have another the following weekend

sparkle gets tired

<sparkle> Suze works us HARD

<secondstar> MY FIRST THERE AS A VENDOR

<KzooCat> Hi all

<cak> Hi Kzoo

<secondstar> WELCOME

<secondstar> http://secondstarontheright.com/crystalcards.htm

<secondstar> http://www.secondstarontheright.com/wax.htm

<secondstar> ARE WE READY TO START?

<LiBsTeR> yes ma'am!!!

<deb> yep

<cak> I am

<LiBsTeR> I love that first card!

<Sheryl> I am!

<KzooCat> yes

<LindaR> ready

<vicki> beautiful, I love the blue one

<secondstar> THERE ARE BETTER SCANS OF SOME OF THE ART WORK ON MY GALLERY PAGES

<secondstar> OK - FOR THE BASIC TECHNIQUE YOU WANT TO START WITH A PIECE OF "THERMAL ACETATE"

<secondstar> I USE INEXPENSIVE COPIER TRANSPARENCIES FROM THE OFFICE SUPPLY STORE

<vicki> it would say thermal on package?

<sparkle> it'll probably say it's for laser printers and copiers

<secondstar> IF YOU USE THE COPIER ONES, THEY ARE HEAT RESISTANT

<vicki> ty

<secondstar> STAMP THE IMAGE WITH A PERMANENT DYE INK

<secondstar> OR WITH BLACK BRILLIANCE INK

<secondstar> IF YOU USE THE BRILLIANCE YOU NEED TO USE A SPRAY FIXATIVE

<secondstar> BUT THE INK IS A LITTLE STICKY - SO YOU GET A BETTER IMAGE

<cak> You use the fixative with Brilliance 'cause it doesn't dry without heat?

<cak> (on acetate anyway)

<kaye> hello all

<KzooCat> hi kaye

<secondstar> IT WILL DRY, BUT WILL WASH OR FLAKE OFF WITHOUT FIXING

<cak> gotcha! thanks

<secondstar> TURN THE PIECE OVER - THE COLOR IS APPLIED TO THE UNSTAMPED SIDE

<secondstar> PUT A PUDDLE OF FUTURE FLOOR FINISH ( ABOUT A TEASPOON ) IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ACTETATE

<secondstar> SPREAD IT AROUND ( WITH FINGERS OR PAINT BRUSH )

<secondstar> AND SPRINKLE WITH ULTRA FINE GLITTER

<secondstar> THE NEXT STEP CAN BE DONE 2 WAYS

<cak> SS, does it need to be clear or can we go wild with the color?

<secondstar> IF YOU WANT TO RELLY CONTROL WHERE THE COLORS GO - PUT THE CRUMPLED TISSUE ON NEXT

rabbitsmom grrrr , got dumped

<secondstar> I USE COLORS THAT GO WITH - BUT HAVE FUN AND GO WILD :)

<cak> (oh boy!)

<secondstar> THEN APPLY MORE FUTURE AND DROPS OF DYE INK

<secondstar> IF YOU WANT THE COLORS TO JUST FLOW TOGETHER

<Susie> POsh inks will work too? They are basically dye inks right?

<secondstar> PUT THEM ON FIRST AND THEN PUT THE TISSUE ON

<secondstar> PROBABLY - GIVE 'EM A TRY

<Susie> Okay, have more colors in those. ;-}

<secondstar> LEAVE THE TISSUE IN PLACE AND LET DRY

<kaye> yes susie they are dye inks

<secondstar> YOUR CAN SPEED IT UP WITH A HEAT GUN

<kaye> and they would work on this technique

<secondstar> WHEN IT'S DRY ADD A LITLE MORE FUTURE AND SPREAD THINLY - THIS MAKES THE WHOLE THING TURN TRANSPARENT

<KzooCat> more future on the tissue?

<secondstar> TRIM THE TISSUE AND ACETATE TO THE SIZE YOU WANT

<secondstar> YES - ON THE TISSUE

<secondstar> AND IT IS DONE !

<secondstar> EASY - HUH??

<LiBsTeR> yes!

<deb> wow

<Susie> Oh, so the tissue stays there? wow.

<KzooCat> wow!

<StmprKB> I am Psyched

<cak> I'll say, but beautiful!

<kaye> http://secondstarontheright.com/crystaltoo.htm

<LiBsTeR> it is amazing how pretty it is, looks so messy from the back! LOL

<secondstar> IT CAN BE MESSY WHILE YOU WORK ON IT

<kaye> the url is for the contoled one

<secondstar> BUT IT'S BEAUTIFUL FROM THE FRONT

<LiBsTeR> it sure is!

<kaye> i love messy techniques

<Susie> Suddenly I think I need to make a run to the grocery store ;-}

<LiBsTeR> lol

<secondstar> TO DO THE GLASS ORNAMENTS

<secondstar> STAMP THE IMAGE AS BEFORE

<secondstar> RUN THROUGH A XYRON MACHINE

<secondstar> WITH THE STAMPED SIDE GETTING STICKY

<kaye> do you clean the glass with anything special

<secondstar> WINDEX

<kaye> ok

<secondstar> I BUY THE GLASS PLANKS AT MICHAELS OR JO ANN

<deb> 3

<secondstar> ABOUT $1 EA

<vicki> do you seel those ornaments?

<deb> 3

<vicki> sorry

<deb> darn it

<kaye> hey janet

<secondstar> I'VE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE ASK IF THEY WERE FOR SALE

<Janet> hi

<Susie> Do you have to cut the glass after you get it, or do they have different sizes?

<LindaR> So you still stamp on acetate and then stick it to the glass?

<secondstar> I JUST SMILE AND SAY "NO, BUT I'LL TEACH YOU HOW TO MAKE THEM..."

<kaye> they come in different shapes

<secondstar> STAMP AND STICK

<kaye> with a hole and everything

<secondstar> THEN DO THE SAME TECHNIQUE WITH THE DYE INK

<secondstar> OR INSTEAD OF INKS

<kaye> http://secondstarontheright.com/ornaments.htm

<secondstar> ADD THE GLITTER AND THEN SOME PEARL EX

<secondstar> I USED COPPER AND GOLD ON THE SAMPLE

<secondstar> WHEN YOU USE PEARL EX YOU DO NEED TO PUT IT ON BEFORE THE TISSUE

<secondstar> WHEN IT'S DRY, TRIM TO FIT THE GLASS

<Janet> that is just lovely

<kaye> i love these ornaments

<kaye> i will be making these for christmas this year

<Susie> Do you back it with anything to protect it? Or is the floor wax enough?

<secondstar> OK - THIS IS DANGEROUS, BECAUSE SOME COMPANIES HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH IT

<secondstar> BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO A BUNCH OF ORNAMENTS

<secondstar> STAMP ON GLOSSY CS - GET A REALLY NICE IMAGE

<secondstar> AND THEN TAKE IT UP TO KINKOS AND HAVE THEM MAKE COPIES ONTO ACETATE FOR YOU

<kaye> post modern design and photoart stamps are ok for this

<Janet> and this is okay with Second Star?

<secondstar> YEP!!

<Janet> for personal use?

<kaye> or gifts?

<deb> cool

<Susie> hmm, I wonder if it is ok with most companies for personal use?

Janet breathes a sigh of relief, one more secret she doesn't have to keep anymore

<secondstar> I THINK MOST ARE OK FOR PERSONAL USE

<deb> lol

<kaye> personal use you can do anything

<secondstar> I DID LOT'S FOR CHRISTMAS PRESENTS THAT WAY

<kaye> it is when you want to sell it that it is interesting

<kaye> why wasn't i on your list

<kaye> lol

<Susie> Sounds like it is relatively fast, and they look cool. Guess what everyone is getting for Xmas? ;-}

<deb> kik

<deb> lol

<secondstar> IF YOU LOOK ON MY GALLERY PAGE THERE IS ONE ORNAMENT THAT I DID WITH GLITTER

<secondstar> INSTEAD OF THE WAX - REALLY FAST AND REALLY PRETTY

<secondstar> THERE IS ONE MORE VARIATION OF THE TECHNIQUE

<secondstar> http://www.secondstarontheright.com/crystaltoo.htm

<LiBsTeR> boy, what would we do without Captain Ron's Miracle Goo ???

<kaye> lol

<secondstar> he really did want to package and sell it :)

<LiBsTeR> rofl

<kaye> i bet

<Janet> that is gorgeous

<LiBsTeR> slap another label on, right??

<secondstar> FOR THE LAST TECHNIQUE, YOU MIX THE DYE INK WITH THE FUTURE IN A DISH OR ON A CD

<secondstar> AND JUST PAINT WITH IT

<Susie> So, for the ornaments the stamped image is in between glass and acetate right?

<deb> wow

<secondstar> RIGHT

<Susie> I run it in the Xyron backwards from what I normally do?

<Susie> OK

<secondstar> JUST KEEP BUILDING UP COLOR TILL IT'S THE WAY YOU WANT IT

<kaye> a little at a time?

<rabbitsmom> needs to open & try her Xyron

<Janet> just like watercolor! but with floor wax and dye ink. whoa. i can do this

<secondstar> YES - IT DRIES PRETTY FAST

<secondstar> SO DO ONE COLOR AT A TIME

<secondstar> JUST LIKE WATER COLOR

<secondstar> BUT TRANSPARENT

<kaye> does it take some getting used to

<secondstar> AND YOU ARE WORKING FROM THE BACK

<kaye> i wonder if you could use the pearlescent acrylics

<kaye> they would look awesome if they work

<secondstar> SINCE YOU ARE WORKING WITH FLOOR WAX

<secondstar> AND NOT ONE OF THE EXPENSIVE "GOOS"

<secondstar> PLAY WITH IT - SEE WHAT WORKS

<vicki> seems like you'd lose the transparency

<Janet> i'm thinking my mica powders would work in this mixing a paint with that and the floor wax, ya think?

<sparkle> ROFL...but I've got a quart of goo!

<secondstar> SAME AS PEARL EX - YEP

<Janet> I'm inspired.

<kaye> future is much cheaper

<Janet> (and I know where to buy the lucite shapes, too)

<secondstar> IT WORKS FINE ON LUCITE OR ACRYLIC

<stamp202> It must act like the Gallery Glass paints?

<secondstar> SOME OF THE BIGGER SHAPES MAKE REALLY PRETTY SUNCATCHERS

<vicki> does the future get real hard?

<Susie> As a suncatcher, doesn't one side look less finished? Or do you make a sandwich?

<secondstar> AFTER IT IS TOTALLY DRY IT IS HARD AND PERMANENT

<vicki> cool

<secondstar> I STAMPED ON THE FRONT OF THE GLASS FOR THE SUNCATCHER

<secondstar> BRILLIANCE INK WILL DRY ON ALMOST ANYTHING

<Susie> Right, but the back of the suncatcher won't look nice? Since you can in theory see both side.

<secondstar> THE BACK SIDE LOOKS A LITTLE UNFINISHED

<secondstar> BUT THAT'S THE SIDE THAT IS TOWARDS THE WINDOW

<Janet> future does dry real thin, though

<secondstar> YES, IT'S VERY THIN

<Susie> I guess it depends if you care what the neighbors see. ;-}

<deb> lol

<Susie> I bet backing it with silver foil/leaf would be neat, since you can see through it.

<secondstar> I DID A SMALL GLASS BOX AS A CHRISTMAS PRESENT

<secondstar> FOIL OR LEAF IS NICE

<vicki> your xmas list sounds looooong

<secondstar> IT JUST WON'T BE AS TRANSPARENT

<secondstar> :)

<secondstar> ALSO DID A GLASS CANDLE HOLDER

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/crystalcards.htm

<deb> <deb> <secondstar> http://www.secondstarontheright.com/wax.htm

<secondstar> DID THE CRYSTAL TECHNIQUE ON THE INSIDE OF ONE OF THE CYLINDERS

<secondstar> THAT ARE MEANT FOR FLOATING CANDLES

<secondstar> ONE SECTION AT A TIME TILL THE WHOLE INSIDE WAS DONE

<secondstar> THEN PUT ANOTHER CANDLE IN A VOTIVE INSIDE

<secondstar> IT WAS REALLY PRETTY

<Janet> that sounds lovely

<secondstar> THEN I GAVE IT AWAY AND FORGOT TO TAKE PICTURES !!

<LiBsTeR> oh no!

<LiBsTeR> lol

<secondstar> GOT TO DO ANOTHER ONE

<vicki> get it back!!!!

<cak> tell 'em to give it back! (temporarily anyway)

<secondstar> mil HAS IT :(

<jenmist> lol

<Janet> oh. nebbermind.<g>

<cak> lol

<deb> wish I had some floor polis

<Janet> make another. :)

<deb> h

<stamp202> We could fight her for it! LOL

<deb> I'm off tomorrow

<deb> and cou ld try this

<Janet> Deb, just be careful when getting it out from under the sink, don't let anybody see you doing it, or they ask if you are FINALLY going to do the floor.

<deb> and I could work over t he floor in the laundry room and polish the floor while I'm at it

<Janet> (I sneak mine out aftermidnight)

<deb> roflol

<secondstar> JANET, IS THE PIECE THAT MARTHA DID WITH THE dr MARTINS IN THE GALLERY YET?

deb just might have to sneak to the store

<cak> no sense in raising false expectations, eh?

<rabbitsmom> you can see your floor ?

<vicki> nobody would think that about me!

<deb> oh a little piece rabbitsmom

<Janet> I think that's one of the newest pieces, let me go look.

<Janet> exactly, cak, Janets don't do floors

<secondstar> SHE SENT ME THE ORIGINAL

<deb> where the laundry isn't

<deb> and I gots lots of laundry

<secondstar> IT'S ON MY HOME PAGE

rabbitsmom has paths , that's all

<secondstar> http://secondstarontheright.com

<stamp202> Very pretty

<vicki> rabbit paths! LOL

<Janet> oh that is beautiful!

<secondstar> THE CARD ON THE LEFT BOTTOM WAS DONE WITH THE SAME TECHNIQUE BUT USING DR MARTINS INKS

<rabbitsmom> yup

<deb> wow

<deb> I love that

<cak> it's gorgeous

<kaye> i second that

<secondstar> OK - TIME FOR THE ADVERTISEMENT :)

<kaye> yes specials

Janet perks

<secondstar> 25% OFF ON ALL SECOND* FULL PLATES DURING THE CYBERCONVENTION

<jenmist> oooh ok

<kaye> i need to shop

<secondstar> AND DON'T FORGET MY ART CONTEST

<jenmist> but I cannot decide

<kaye> that is the worst part

<Janet> I already forgot, tell me about the art contest?

jenmist plots sell more caramels, more caramels

<secondstar> A $25 GIFT CERTIFICATE EVERY MONTH

rabbitsmom wants all the plates

<kaye> that would be easy to spend

<deb> on all???? plates?

<cak> spending is easy, stopping the spending is hard

<cak> It's soooo hard to decide

<stamp202> I hear ya cak!

<secondstar> ALSO A 425 GIFT CERTIFICATE IF YOU ARE PUBLISHED USING 2ND* STAMPS

<Janet> I don't think I've ever spent JUST $25 at Second Star

<deb> me either

<deb> I think last time it was $90

<jenmist> I have been so restrained so foar but I knew Second Star would be my downfall

<Janet> but I have my Must Have plates list right here

<jenmist> mom - was some of that for me?

<secondstar> MAKE THAT $25 NOT 425

<cak> coll

<cak> cool

<secondstar> DEB CAN'T TYPE :)

<jenmist> rats

<deb> debbie - are those ALLL plates 25% off?

<Janet> (new florals are must haves)

<deb> lol jen

<jenmist> any florals

<jenmist> lol

<Janet> I already have the other ones<g>

<Janet> and USE them!!

<deb> debbie cowan

<secondstar> SEVERAL STAMPERS ARE BUSY PICKING OUT THEIR STAMPS THIS WEEK SINCE THE NEW SOMERSET "TITANIC" ISSUE CAME OUT :)

<deb> are ALL plates 25% off?

<kaye> full plates

<secondstar> ALL FULL PLATES - THE ONES ENDING IN A ID CODE "d"

<deb> ok

<rabbitsmom> hate to choose just a few , dumb budget !

<secondstar> THAT'S ONLY $16.50 PER PLATE!!

<jenmist> I am in trouble now

<jenmist> grest deal!!

<deb> I already have a list

<jenmist> great I mean

<Janet> that's only $33 for TWO plates!!

<deb> lol

<Janet> (who is gonna be able to pick just one??)

<deb> you can if you got them all last time

rabbitsmom wishes the exchange rate was better

<jenmist> how can I stop at 2?

<cak> (who's gonna be able to pick just *2)

<secondstar> I TOOK JANETS WATERCOLOR CLASS THIS AFTERNOON

<deb> lol

<Janet> I got most last time but there's new ones.

<Janet> And a fine class it was.<g>

<secondstar> BEEN PLAYING WITH THE NEW SPRING BOTANICALS

<secondstar> VERY PRETTY!!

<deb> wow

<deb> did you take pics

<Janet> Oh your botanicals watercolor soooo easy and look so dynamic.

rabbitsmom loves the floral blocks one

<secondstar> I'LL SCAN THEM AND GET THEM INTO THE GALLERY

<Janet> (this is why I need the new ones, because they make my painting look good)

<deb> cool

<deb> rof janet

<Janet> you think I'm joking? au contraire. I only buy stuff that makes ME look good.

<cak> that's c

<secondstar> GUESS IT'S ABOUT TIME TO FINISH UP SO THE NEXT CLASS CAN START

<cak> 'cause you're smart Janet

<deb> excellent debbie

<Janet> Thank you Debbie Cowan! I'm sneaking out the floor wax late tonight again!!

<deb> next event is Jhone's 50'th B'day Party

<secondstar> LOL!!

<stamp202> thanks Debbie

<jenmist> is it really in oldjhone?

<jenmist> awesome class and special!

<rabbitsmom> party ? yeah !

<deb> yesh

<Janet> It IS.

<cak> Beautiful results with a wonderfully simple technique! Thank you Debbie!

<kaye> are there any prizes

<kaye> hint hint

<jenmist> lol

<Janet> at Jhone's. Probably.

<deb> thanks debbie

<Janet> She's old, she'll never remember she gave prizes last time.

Janet snickers

<jenmist> on to the next

<jenmist> lol

<cak> lol

<Susie> Thanks for the lesson!

<jenmist> I am telling

<kaye> thanks debbie

<Janet> Thank you, Debbie. This really was inspiring.

<secondstar> BACK TO CUTTING UP RUBBER

<LiBsTeR> Thanks Deb!!!

<rabbitsmom> great class , thanks !

<Janet> (and you can look for my order later, when I decide which I can't live without)

<Susie> I can't wait til my Second* plates arrive!

<kaye> i really need to try this

<kaye> if i do i will send you pics

<cak> thanks again Debbie. I'll see you all later!

<LindaR> Thanks Deb. Some great gift ideas here.

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