<cak> Whew! I was thinkin' I was in the wrong place
<deb> lol
<Janet> we were messing with Jhone on her birthday
<cak> lol--well, what else would you get for her birthday?
<Janet> she gave us specials!
<kaye> hi all
<Holly> hi Kaye
<cindyc> when my mom was alive, i gave her flowers on my birthdays
<cak> so she was giving you presents on *her* birthday?? Good deal
<Holly> aw that's sweet cindy
<kat> Hi all
<Holly> that's what I said cak!
<cindyc> she gave me my birthday after all
<cak> (just don't expect it from me though)
<Redstick> Good moorning ya'll!
<LiBsTeR> STAMP 202- email Jhone
<Holly> hi candace
<Holly> it's not morning here!
<stamp202> Lib, I just did before coming here
<LiBsTeR> good
<InkyWings> good "in the middle of the night" Red!
<LiBsTeR> she asked to tell you
<LiBsTeR> :-)
<Redstick> NOT MORNING HERE EITHER, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWAKE
Redstick GRINS
InkyWings are kind of awake
RubberRabbit grins wider
<cindyc> someone want to change the topic? i can't
<LuniLadi> awake...but dead tired...just home from work
<Redstick> NOBODY CAN...THERE'S NO HATS
<cindyc> oh
<cindyc> ok
<Holly> see, I am the only one awake in here
<cindyc> ha
<RubberRabb> egad we're all hatless
LiBsTeR watches the grinning contest
<Janet> I can. anybody can.
<Redstick> THANKS, JANET! HOW'D YOU *DO* THAT? :)
<Janet> or anybody with regular IRC software
<RubberRabb> LOL
<Redstick> OHHHHHHHHHHHH....I THOUGHT HAD TO BE OPS
<Janet> /topic #rubberclassroom {insert topic here]
<cindyc> not mirc though?
<LiBsTeR> yes can do with mirc, Cindy
RubberRabbit doesn't want irc software--would mean I'd have to actually know what is going on
Redstick HAS A COLD HEAD W/O A HAT
<jenmist> I am so relieved - Jhone liked the book I made her
<LiBsTeR> lol Rabbit
<cindyc> i didn't know that
<deb> well DUH jen
<beanjean1> hi EB!
<Redstick> http://www.enchantedink.com/projects/class20.htm
LiBsTeR hands RED a purple velvet hat
<Holly> sorry, I just wanted to see if I could do it
<Redstick> PURPLE???????????????
RubberRabbit I kept my dustbunnies in my ears to keep my head warm until SOMEONE took the candles out of my ears..
<jenmist> welll - I worry
<LiBsTeR> 'when I am old, I shall wear purple"
<Holly> is that right?
<deb> well you shouldn't
RubberRabbit takes the purple hat and gives Red a green one
<cindyc> you must capitalize red... lol
<Redstick> AHHHHHHHHHHHHH....I LOVE THAT POEM!
<LiBsTeR> me too
kat wonders if cat is trying to start a fire in her ears
<LiBsTeR> that is why purple hat
<Rusty> i sent the bunnies back but they got hit by a truck trying to cross the street'
<Holly> sorry Deb
<cindyc> uh oh
kat should have said rabbit
<Janet> my topic wasn't good enough??
<deb> sorry for what?
Redstick THINKS IT'S STRANGE CAUSE SHE DOESN'T EVEN REALLY *LIKE* RED
RubberRabbit changes her purple hat for black mourning
<Holly> I thought you said I shouldn't have changed the topic
<Rusty> lol
<deb> oh no I didn't
<RubberRabb> poor lil dust bunnies
<cak> I always wondered about the source of your screen name Ms Red
<Janet> No, you can change the topic. I was just goofing.
<deb> OH I was talking to jen
<Holly> I picture Candace with flaming Red hair
<Rusty> didnt' even see it coming
<LuniLadi> Oh gorgeous sample Red...I have that sheet :)
<deb> I said she should worry about her book
<jenmist> lol
<Holly> oh, good
<Redstick> OK.....AS IF ANYONE REALLY *WANTS* TO LEARN THIS BOOK...WE BETTER GET STARTED CAUSE THERE'S ALOTTA GROUND TO COVER
<RubberRabb> ok
deb hugs holly
<Rusty> ok
<RubberRabb> I want to learn the book
<Holly> ty
<Scout> Url,Url, Url
<Holly> ready red
<LiBsTeR> great, lets go!
<cak> http://www.enchantedink.com/projects/class20.htm
<Redstick> YA MAKE IT IN 2 PARTS
<Redstick> THE COVER
<Redstick> AND THE ACCORDION INSIDE
<Redstick> MAKES SENSE TO START THE COVER SINCE IT'S CLAY, AND LET IT COOK WHILE YOU DO THE INSIDES
<deb> WOW
<deb> gorgeous
<Holly> that is really pretty
<Redstick> WHATEVER POLYMER CLAY YOU WANT TO USE...CONDITION IT WELL AND ROLL OUT TWO PCS SOMEWHAT BIGGER THAN THE STAMP YOU WANT TO USEE
LiBsTeR hugs the book, it is so purty
<RubberRabb> ooh ooh that's my stamp!!
Holly has not done much with clay
<vicki> is she efficient, or what?
<InkyWings> RR - I like that one
<Redstick> THIS CLAY THINGIE IS SUPER EASY
<InkyWings> and I love the book!
<beanjean1> hey red, is on you cd catty?
<Rusty> very nice
<beanjean1> oops this project...
<Redstick> YOU WANT TO USE A GOOD INK...LIKE BRILLIANCE OR ARCHIVAL OR HEAT SET...SOMETHING THAT WILL DRY WHILE THE CLAY BAKKES
<jenmist> I gotta order that CD
<kaye> yes you do
<Redstick> YES...ALL 20 PROJECTS ARE ON THE CD CATALOG
<beanjean1> oh cool!!!!!!!!!!
beanjean1 already ordered it!
cindyc sees a fun Spring coming.....
<kaye> it is only $4
beanjean1 sits back and relaxes.....
<Redstick> SO...YOU INK UP YOUR STAMP AND STAMP ON ONE PC OF CLAY...YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO PRESS ALL THAT HARD...CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COLOR OVER THE INK
<Redstick> DON'T REINK....BUT STAMP ON THE 2ND PICE
<Redstick> YOU AREN'T GOING TO *SEE* THE INK ON THIS ONE WHEN THE BOOK'S DONE...BUT YOU WANT BOTH COVERS TO BE THE SAME SIZE
<cak> (and it's a rather elegant touch I think)
<Holly> but it's okay if it leaves some ink on the second piece?
<Redstick> USE A CRAFT KNIFE, OR KITCHEN CHOPPER OR WHATEVER
<Redstick> SURE HOLLY...THE INK WILL BE HIDDEN
<Redstick> AND CUT BOTH COVERS OUT OF THE CLAY....MAKE THE BORDER AROUND THE IMAGE ABIT 1/8" TO 1/4"
<Redstick> THEN FOLLOW THE PACKAGE DIRECTIONS AND BAKE EM
<Redstick> OH
<Redstick> AND SET A TIMER :)
<Rusty> i'm sorry, did you say how thick the pieces should be?
Redstick KNOWS FROM EXPERINCE
<cak> lol
<Rusty> did you use a past machine?
<Redstick> AH....NO I DIDN'T
<Rusty> burnt clay stinks!!!!!
<Redstick> I USED A PASTA MACHINE SET ON 1, THE THICKEST
<Rusty> thanks
<Redstick> SO...BOUT 1/4" DEEP
raven s eyes brighten as she sees a TEA book she needs to make!
<Redstick> SO THE COVERS ARE DONE :)
<Rusty> yah
<Redstick> NOTHING FANCY THERE
cindyc likes tea
<Redstick> IF YOU WANT YOU CAN MAKE A LITTLE CHARM LIKE THE BUTTERFLY OUT OF EXTRA CLAY
<Redstick> NEXT COMES THE INSIDES...
<Redstick> YOU'LL NEED 3 PCS OF C/S
<Holly> I love this!
<Redstick> THE 1ST ONE THE SAME HEIGHT AS YOUR STAMP AND 4 TIMES THE WIDTH
<Redstick> THE OTHER TWO THE SAME HEIGHT AS YOUR STAMP AND 2 TIMES THE WIDTH
<Redstick> MAKE SURE IT'S THE SIZE OF YOUR STAMP....NOT THE SIZE YOU CUT THE COVERS
<Redstick> THAT'S WHY WE MADE A LIL BORDER AROUND THE CLAY COVERS
<Redstick> SO THEY'RE A *TINY* BIT LARGER THAN THE INSIDES
<Redstick> TAKE THE LONG STRIP AND FOLD IN HALF.....YOU'LL HAVE 2 SECTIONS 2 X THE WIDTH AND THE SAME HEIGHT AS YOUR STAMP
<Redstick> THEN FOLD EACH END BACK TO THE MIDDLE GOING TO OPPOSITE WAY
<Redstick> TO MAKE AN ACCORDION
<Redstick> NOW TAKE THE 2 SMALLER PCS AND FOLD IN HALF....THEY'LL BE THE SIZE OF YOUR STAMP
<Redstick> YOU'LL PROLLY WANT TO TRIM THE FORE EDGES A TINY BIT WITH A CRAFT KNIFE SO THEY DON'T STICK OUT WHEN YOU NEST THEM IN THE ACCORDION
<Redstick> OF THE SMALLER PCS...NOT THE ACCORDION ITSELF
Redstick GRINS
<LiBsTeR> lol
<Redstick> EVERYBODY WENT TO SLEEP, RIGHT?
<LiBsTeR> I am reading
<deb> nope
<deb> just keeping up
<kaye> no i am here
<RubberRabb> no> I've been reading along with the instructions
<cak> (good thing you caught us before we did some real damage with that knife)
<Rusty> nope
<RubberRabb> this is how you know you are running a good class
<Susie> still here, flipping back and forth between instructions.
<RubberRabb> they all get very very quiet
<LuniLadi> no. I'm here
<Redstick> OK....HERE'S THE ONLY HARD PART TO EXPLAIN...
<deb> uh oh
<cindyc> we have to or deb will yell
<LuniLadi> thank goodness you have diagrams...lol
LiBsTeR concentrates
<deb> ; )
<Redstick> AND THE ILLUSTRATION ON THE WEB MAKES IT EASIER
<Froolap> blink
<LuniLadi> amen
<cindyc> †
<Redstick> YOU WANT YOUR LONG ACCORDION PC TO SIT ON THE TABLE IN FRONT OF YOU LIKE A ***W***
<Redstick> *NOT* AN m
<LiBsTeR> ok good explanation!
<deb> ok - open on top
<Redstick> YEP OPEN ON TOP
<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/projects/class20.htm
<Redstick> THE TWO LITTLE PCS THAT LOOK LIKE CARDS...SLIP DOWN INTO THE VALLEYS
<Rusty> works for me
<RubberRabb> like the illustration going with step number seven not step number six
<deb> ook - that makes sense
<Redstick> AND YER GONNA SEW THEM IN PLACE
<cindyc> can we use our machines?
<Redstick> UH HUH....YEP....YER GONNA SEW
<deb> uh oh
<Redstick> SURE IF YOU WANT TO CINDY :)
deb is sewing impaired
<cindyc> gulp
<cindyc> good... whew
<RubberRabb> sewing books doesn't count like sewing fabric
<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/projects/class20.htm
<deb> oh whew!
<Rusty> except for the sharp needles'
<Redstick> THIS BINDING STITCH IS ONE OF THE SIMPLEST...THE PAMPHLET STITCH
cindyc can almost sew a strait line on the machine...
<RubberRabb> more like baby embroidery--where the holes are already there for you
<Redstick> IF YOU DID THE OTHER LITTLE CLASS WITH ME, YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW TO DO IT
<Holly> baby embroidery makes it sound easy
<RubberRabb> it IS easy
<Holly> I love the second book
<Redstick> IN THE MIDDLE OF EACH OF THE INSET PAGEES YOU ARE GOING TO PUNCH 3 HOLES..
<Redstick> USE A PUSHPIN
<Redstick> EASIEST THING FOR A C/S BOOK
<RubberRabb> or a needle tool
<RubberRabb> if that is handy?
<Redstick> ONE HOLE GOES IN THE MIDDLE, APPRX 1/2 WAY FROM THE TOP AND BOTTOM
InkyWings has to remember where she put all the needles
<Redstick> SURE...WHATEVER YOU HAVE
RubberRabbit smiles
<Redstick> BUT DON'T GO OUT AND BUY A BOOK PUNCH
<Redstick> CAUSE A PUSHPIN WILL DO :)
RubberRabbit doesn't want to punch out books
<Rusty> but they dont' punch back
LiBsTeR pities the poor defenseless books
<Redstick> THE OTHER TWO HOLES GO ABOUT HALF WAY BETWEEN THE MIDDLE HOLE AND THE TOP/BOTTOM EDGE OF THE BOOK
<Holly> but you don't have to be anal and measure right?
<Redstick> THERE'S REALLY NO MEASUREMENT...CAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT SIZE STAMP YOU STARTED WITH
<LuniLadi> does it have to be 3 holes?
<Redstick> JUST DIVIDE THE HEIGHT IN HALF...THEN DIVIDE THOSE TWO SECTIONS IN HALF
<Redstick> IT HAS TO BE AN ODD NUMBER..
<Holly> oh, okay. gotcha
<LuniLadi> ty
<Redstick> THE PAMPHLET STITCH HAS TO BE AN ODD NUMBER OF HOLES
<Redstick> NOW...IT'S DECISION TIME
<Rusty> oh no
<Redstick> YOU GOTTA DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT SOME STRINGS HANGING OFF THE SPINE....
<Redstick> OR IF YOU WANT TO HIDE THE ENDS INSIDE THE BOOK
<cindyc> hanging
<cindyc> g
<Redstick> IF YOU WANT STRINGS OON THE OUTSIDE....YOU'LL START STITCHING ON THE OUTSIDE
<Redstick> IF YOU WANT THE ENDS ON THE INSIDE, YOU'LL START STITCHING ON THE INSIDE
<cindyc> i like good sense
<Redstick> YOU MIGHT WANNA USE A BULLDOG CLIP OR PAPER CLIP TO HOLD THE LITTLE SECTION TO THE ACCORDION WHILE YOU SEW
<Redstick> AND CREWEL OR TAPESTRY NEEDLES WORK GOOD FOR BOOKBINDING
<Redstick> CAUSE THEY AREN'T REAL SHARP
<Janet> i can thread those too
<Redstick> NO SENSE PUNCHING HOLES IN YER FINGERS WHEN YOU DON'T NEED TO
<Rusty> good janet lol
<cak> lol (another important consideration)
<Redstick> AND THEY HAVE A BIG EYE....YES
<Janet> only needles i can thread
<RubberRabb> which is nice for using fancy fibers
<Redstick> FOR LITTLE BOOKS LIKE THIS, I USE BUTTON/CARPET THREAD
<Redstick> IT'S STRONG, BUT NOT TOO BIG
<Redstick> WALLY WORLD HAS IT IN SEVERAL COLORS TOO
<Redstick> OR YOU CAN USE THE TINIEST CROCHET COTTON..
<RubberRabb> tatting thread would be good
<RubberRabb> strong and thin
<RubberRabb> made for knots
<Holly> Oh I am so anxious to try this.
<Redstick> SO.....THREAD THE NEEDLE...A PC ABOUT...OH ABOUT 4 X THE HEIGHT OF YOUR BOOK
<Holly> I just have to find a roller since I don't have a pasta machine or a roller
<Redstick> GOODWILL...ROLLING PIN
<Janet> or one of those lucite rods works well too
<Redstick> IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE THREADS ON THE OUTSIDE...START ON THE OUTSIDE...IN THE *MIDDLE* HOLES
<Redstick> IF YOU WANT THEM ON THE INSIDE, START ON THE INSIDE...*MIDDLE* HOLE
<Redstick> EITHER AWAY....THE SEQUENCE OF HOLES IS THE SAME
<Redstick> MIDDLE FIRST....THEN TOP
<Redstick> THEN ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM WITH A LONG STITCH
<Redstick> THEN BACK THROUGH THE MIDDLE
<Redstick> MIDDLE*TOP*BOTTOM* MIDDLE
<Redstick> BOTH THREAD ENDS WILL BE EITHER INSIDE OR OUTSIDE
<LuniLadi> God red you just did a great job of explaining that
<Redstick> BUT YOU WANT ONE OF THEM TO BE ON ONE SIDE OF THE LONG STITCH AND THE OTHER TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LONG STITCH
<LuniLadi> I was sure Iwasn't going to get it....lol
<Redstick> CAUSE YER GONNA TIE THE KNOT OVER TOP OF THE LONG STITCH
<Redstick> THANKS, LUNI :)
cindyc is rubbing bum
<Redstick> I'VE MADE A FEW BOOKS WITH THIS STITCH :)
<LuniLadi> oh yw...you did...I *got* it :) :) :)
<cak> lol
LiBsTeR thinks she gonna make a few, too!
InkyWings thinks the same!
<Redstick> oH.....SQUARE KNOT PLEASE :)
<cindyc> Red, your instructions are so clear... you are a great teacher
<Redstick> MUCH STRONGER
<Redstick> TY TY :)
<InkyWings> I'm so inspired by this!!
<Redstick> I TOLD EVERYONE YESTERDAY....I ALWAYS WRITE DIRECTIONS AS IF I'M TEACHING 4TH GRADERS :)
<beanjean1> ROFL red!!
<Rusty> well, it works
<LuniLadi> this is still called an accordian book...even though it doesn't open up all the way?
<Rusty> lol
<cak> (perfect for us!)
<cindyc> must be why i understand so well
<Redstick> THAT WAY I DON'T LEAVE OUT EVEN THE TINIEST STEP
<RubberRabb> only because you are always teaching fourth graders
<Janet> that's my attention span most nights
cindyc gots a forth grade edumacation....
<Rusty> haha
<RubberRabb> gradulated from kindy garden
LiBsTeR is kindygardner stamper
<Redstick> IT WILL OPEN ALL THE WAY, LUNI....UNLESS YOU TIE ALL THE THREAD TOGETHER OUTSIDE LIKE IN THE BOTTOM (RABBIT'S) BOOK
<Redstick> IT JUST HAS TWO *EXTRA* PAGES
<LuniLadi> ty red
RubberRabbit smiles
<LuniLadi> I like the threads outside to add beads
RubberRabbit so proud to see her carving gracing a Red book
<Rusty> me too
<LuniLadi> I believe in "more is more"
<Redstick> SO...YOU GOTTA SEW BOTH THE SECTIONS IN...SEPARATELY
<deb> RR - that is very nice
<cindyc> you should be rr
<Redstick> AND WHEN YER DONE...IF THE THREAD ARE INSIDE, CLIP THE ENDS OFF
<Rusty> quite good rr
<Redstick> IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE...PLAY WITH EM
<deb> I can't wait to try this
<Redstick> BUT WHATEVER YOU DO.....DON
cindyc needs more fibers
<Redstick> DON'T
<Redstick> DON'T
<Redstick> FERGET YER CLAY IN THE OVEN!!!!!!!!!
<LuniLadi> lol
<LiBsTeR> rofl!
<cindyc> lol!
<Janet> oops
<deb> lol
<cak> (you think we're not supposed to forget???)
<Susie> Oops. I already forgot about the clay ;-}
<cindyc> its make n bake an i halped
<deb> are you speaking from experience??
<Rusty> SMELLS awful
<LiBsTeR> lol cindy
<Rusty> and that's from experience
<Janet> I know that smell
<deb> lol
<Redstick> THE BAD PART...IS YA GOTTA LET IT COOL BEFORE YOU CAN PUT THE BOOK TOGETHER
<cindyc> me too
<cak> Oh No! Patience called for again!
<cindyc> so make a bunch at a time yes?
<Redstick> CLOSE UP THE ACCORDION, TURN IT OVER SO THE BACKSIDE IS RIGHTSIDE UP
<InkyWings> ok - we bake the clay - let it cool (forget about it) and do the pages when waiting for it to let cool??
<InkyWings> better then forget it when it's baking
<Redstick> YOU COULD
<Redstick> BUT THERE'S A SPECIAL CHALLENGE IN FINISHING THE INSIDE IN THE 20 MINUTES OR SO THAT THE CLAY BAKES :)
<cindyc> i would rather do the pages before sewing...
<kaye> and hope it comes out half as good as reds
<InkyWings> ha-ha... ok Red
<InkyWings> think I'll play it safe the first time
<Redstick> I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU SLIP A PC OF SCRAP PAPER UP UNDER THE BACK PAGE BEFORE YOU APPLY THE GLUE
<Redstick> THAT PROTECTS THE REST OF THE ACCORDION FROM GETTING GLUED TOGETHER
<LuniLadi> ah, another pitfall
<cak> I'd need one under the fold too--I'm a messy gluer
<cindyc> could you xyron the sides to be folded?
<Redstick> I USE AEELENE'S (SP?) TACKY GLUE FOR THIS
<cindyc> aleene's
<cindyc> lol gots it here in front of me
<LuniLadi> doesn't warp the pages?
<Redstick> IT MIGHT BE HARD TO STOP THE XYRON ON JUST THE PART THAT GETS GLUED
<Redstick> AND IT MIGHT BE TOO THICK TO SEND IT THROUGH FOLDED
<cindyc> hmmm thot maybe you put it through folded..
<Redstick> EAPECIALLY AFTER YOU PUT THE BAKC COVER ON :)
<cindyc> prob right
<cindyc> lol
<Redstick> SO YOU DO THE BACK COVER FIRST
<vicki> would red liner tape hold on the clay?
<Redstick> AND POSITION THE ACCORDION (ALREADY GLUED) ONTO THE INKED SIDE OF THE 2ND CLAY PC...THE ONE WITH ONLY A LITTLE INK
<cak> It could be done (run through after folding and before sewing), but would it stick to the polyclay?
<Redstick> I DON'T KNOW CINDY....I THINK THE CLAY HAVE ALMOST A FILM OF OIL ON IT..OR FEELS LIKE IT
<cak> I guess there's nothing like PVA for PC, eh?
<Redstick> AFTER YOU HAVE THE BACK COVER ATTACHED (SPACED EVENLY AROUND THE ACCORDION) THEN APPLY GLUE TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE FRONT OF THE ACCORDION
<deb> Redstick I missed that - what kind of glue did you use
<Redstick> THEN CAREFULLY POSITION THE FRONT COVER
<Redstick> I USED ALEENE'S TACKY GLUE
<deb> ohyes
<deb> ok
<deb> I did see that
<Redstick> I ALWAYS DO THE BACK COVERS FIRST....THAT WAY IF THEY AREN'T *EXACTLY* THE SAME SIZE....YOU CAN OFTEN HIDE IT WITH THE FRONT COVER
<Redstick> AND YOU WANT THE STAMPED SIDE OUT..FOR THE FRONT COVER
<deb> so you don't have to make any holes in the clay
<deb> you are glueing them on
<cak> (this is a *good* tip)
<Redstick> NO HOLES
<Redstick> THE FIRST BOOK (FAIRY) OPENS ALL THE WAY LIKE A REGULAR ACCORDION BOOK
<raven> Hmmm... two perfect sized book covers sounds like a job for Evo templates too
<Redstick> THE 2ND (RABBIT'S) HAS ALL THE THREAD ENDS ON THE OUTSIDE AND SLIPPED THROUGH A BEAD AND TIED...
<Redstick> IT ISN'T A TIGHT BINDING, BUT HOLDS THE PAGES TOGETHER MORE LIKE A REGULAR BOOK
<raven> I loooove that tea book
<Holly> the tea book is my favorite too
<cindyc> did you drill a hole in the front cover top for the added fiber?
<Redstick> THERE'S COFFEE IN THERE TOO, RAVEN...BUT THOSE PAGES DIDN'T SHOW
<kaye> red so you don'
<Holly> was that one stamp or several Red?
<kaye> don't see the second stamp at all
raven will pretend there isn't coffee in there then :-)
<Redstick> IT'S ONE STAMP...RABBIT'S CARVING "i LOVE COFFEE I LOVE TEA, I LOVE MY BABY AND MY BABY LOVES ME...COFFE, TEA, MY BABY AND ME...A CUP A CUP A CUP"
<Holly> I love that!
RubberRabbit dances to the java jive
<deb> ahhhhh
<LiBsTeR> lol
<deb> too cool
deb pats rr on the back
<Redstick> AND THANKS TO STASH TEA CO. I HAD PLENTY OF IMAGES FOR THE INSIDE :)
raven dances the tea time twist
<cak> Red, how did you attach the bead and thread in the upper right hand corner of the cover?
<Redstick> I DID DRILL A HOLE THERE, CAK WITH A STRAW BEFORE I BAKED IT
<cak> Ah! thanks
<Redstick> THAT BOOK HAS 3 INSET PAGES INSTEAD OF TWO..IT COULD HAVE SEVERAL....JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MANY FOLDS IN THE ACCORDION
<cindyc> these will make great gifts
<deb> Redstick
<deb> about what size do those measure?
<Redstick> IT'S FUN....LOOKS COMPLICATED BUT REALLY IS EASY
<Holly> cindy you can give a gift to me!
<cak> You could also sew pages in the valleys of the outside of the spine too I bet
<LuniLadi> here's a dumb question...I haven't done any books...where do you get the long paper?
<deb> not dumb
<deb> I don't know either
<LuniLadi> :)
<Redstick> RABBIT'S IS 4" TALL 2 3/4" WIDE
<cindyc> umm i wonder how and where you added the extra inset page?
<deb> thanks cndace
<Holly> you can make your paper as long as you need by gluing one accordian flap to another
<LuniLadi> you and me, you and me...deb
<cindyc> lol holly
<deb> lol
<Redstick> THE FAIRY ONE IS 3 1/2" X 2 1/2"
<deb> ok thanks
<deb> that gives me an idea
<Redstick> THANK YOU HOLLY...THAT'S RIGHT
<LuniLadi> duh
<Redstick> MAKE TWO ACCORDIONS, FLIP ONE OVER AND NEST ONE END IN THE OTHER
<Redstick> GLUE THEM TOGETHER
<deb> cool
<LuniLadi> like W M
Holly wants to know deb's idea
<Redstick> ALSO....YOU CAN SOMETIMES GET STRIPS OF C/S LONGER THAN 11" AT PRINT SHOPS
<deb> lol no - I just meant it gave me some idea of how big they were
<cak> and parent sheets of paper are pretty large. I can get some papers at a local book store
<Redstick> THEY SELL THE ENDS CUTS FROM BIGGER JOBS FOR ****REAL*** CHEAP
<Holly> Hobby Lobby has some pieces longer too in the art supply section
<cak> (very good idea)
<RubberRabb> and you can order those long strips from Marcos paper if you want really good cardstocks
<raven> and you can buy sheets of paper in tabloid size... and I forget how many inches long that is....
<deb> I got a set at the last convention
<RubberRabb> He'll custom cut anything for you if you ask
<LuniLadi> red...do you glue like W M ?
<deb> been waiting too use them
<Holly> what's W M
<deb> the folds holly
<Holly> oh!
<deb> glue the w flap to the m flap
<LuniLadi> outside or inside? when you glue?
<Holly> all I could think was wood mounted!
<deb> probalby inside
<deb> cause it wold show less
<LuniLadi> thanks
<Redstick> YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN EXTRA FOLD WHEN YOU GLUE THEM TOGETHER... SO YOU HAVE W M/
<Holly> you would have the end of one accordian butt into the valley of the other when you glue
<InkyWings> or you do like W M W
<Redstick> GLUE THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE W INTO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE M/
<deb> excellent class
<Holly> yes, very
<Holly> deb, what was your idea?
<LuniLadi> thanks guys...probably easier to do than explain
<vicki> nice, thanks, Red
<deb> no I just wnated an idea of how big they were
<deb> thanks Candace
<Holly> Luni, fold a piece of scrap paper and you will see how it works
<LuniLadi> ty Holly
<Redstick> OH WAIT!!!!!!!!!!
<cindyc> another great class
<Holly> Thanks a lot Candace. Great class as always
<kaye> What
<beanjean1> thanks RED
<Redstick> I'M GONNA SEND TWO KITS..
deb waits
RubberRabbit waiting patiently
<cak> I'm waitin'--
<Susie> Thanks. Now I really need that pasta machine ;-}
LuniLadi screeches to a halt
<RubberRabb> two kits?
<kaye> for what
<deb> lol
<beanjean1> great class
<Holly> susie, me too
<kaye> i want a kit
<Redstick> STAMP CLAY C/S THREAD
<kaye> me me me
<RubberRabb> wants a kit too
<deb> cool
<Redstick> I JUST HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW I'M GONNA DO IT
LiBsTeR neeeeeeds a kit
<cindyc> thread????
<Redstick> ONLY TWO
<Redstick> ONE OF EACH
<kaye> me me me me me
<RubberRabb> easy--pick me
<RubberRabb> that's one
<deb> wow
<Redstick> A FAIRY BOOK AND A RABBIT BOOK
<kaye> no me
<LiBsTeR> OOooooo
<LuniLadi> me
<Holly> pick me for the second kit!
<deb> send them with your first orders
<cak> cool
raven thwaps rabbit... you can't get your own rabbit stamp book!
<kaye> either is fine for me
RubberRabbit pouts
<Redstick> HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
LiBsTeR sobs she can't order
<LuniLadi> tough call
<Janet> I need to get to trivia. Thank you so much for the class, Red!
<Holly> nite Janet
<kaye> i already ordered
cindyc watches the mayhem....
<Redstick> THE FIRST TWO PEOPLE WHOSE EMAIL TO REDSTIC@INTERSURF.COM REACHES ME......
<RubberRabb> hee hee
<Susie> I have to have that fairy stamp. ;-}
<cindyc> go now!
<cindyc> you want to buy the whole sheet susie, trust me....
<deb> nite red
<Susie> Yeah, I was just thinking that. I have this thing for fairies too!
<deb> thanks so much
<LuniLadi> I ahbe that sheet
<LiBsTeR> This was great, Red!
<Susie> THanks for the class!
<LiBsTeR> Thanks a lot- I can use all of this!!!!
<kaye> Thanks red
<Redstick> I USED THAT ADDY SO THERE WOULDN'T BE AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE IF YOU HAVE MY OTHER MAIN ADDY IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOKS :)
<LuniLadi> thanks red!
<LiBsTeR> lol
<kaye> I have to make some books
<LuniLadi> got to go
<rabbitsmom> thanks red , great class
<Holly> thanks Candace. I really love this class.
<cak> Red, if you made an fairly deep impression of the stamp in the *inside* of both front and back covers, could you deboss (?) the end sheets into it for decoration?
<Redstick> NIGHT YA'LL THANKS FOR COMING!
<Froolap> what do we get if we are one of the two?
<cindyc> http://www.enchantedink.com/plates/index.htm
<raven> ooooh CAK! you are brilliant!!!
<cak> or would the pressure deform the front stamping
<jenmist> great class Red!!!!
<Redstick> I DON'T KNOW CAK...WORTH EXPERIMENTING....DAMPEN THE PAPER
<cindyc> hey Terribear
<raven> Cak... if the paper was thin text weight.. and maybe even a slight bit damp yet from the glue...
<cak> (I didn't want to hide that lovely image on the back
<Redstick> FROOLAP....YOU'D GET A STAMP/CLAY AND THREAD
<raven> wouldn't need hardly any pressure at all
<cak> Yeah, I think a wetter glue would help considerably
<kaye> i sent an email to the wrong address first
<Susie> Have to run, I HAVE to get the baby to bed. Thanks!
<kaye> making it hard is not nice for the slow people
<Redstick> HEHEHE..THT'S WHY i SWITCHED KAYE :)
<Terribear> hey cindyc good to see you here
<cindyc> nice to see you
<cindyc> i love cyberconventions
<Redstick> I FIGURED SOME OF THESE FOLKS MIGHT HAVE MY REGULAR ADDY IN THEIR EMAIL ALREADY
<cak> lol--I think you figured right!
<kaye> so you will get two from me and maybe others
Redstick IS GONNA HAFTA CHECK THE EMAILS CAREFULLY :)
<cindyc> on to #tirivia
<cak> lol
<cindyc> #trivia that is
<cindyc> lol
<Redstick> RIGHT....TRIVIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
<Redstick> SEE YA THERE!
<sparkle> hi Candace!
<raven> GREAT books, Candace :-) niters all
<cak> Bye all
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