<MAGGIEB> OK.....
<MAGGIEB> SO THOSE THAT ARE ACTUALLY HERE
<altogether> hey janet!
<MAGGIEB> WANT THE URL????
<annie> great
<MAGGIEB> FOR THE CLASS?
<keribou> yes
<kat> yes
<altogether> sorry I'm late
<brenda> yes
<annie> yes
<MAGGIEB> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/abclassintro.html
<kat> we are just getting started
<MAGGIEB> THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE PAGE THAT WILL LIST THEM ALL
<MAGGIEB> SO YOU ACCESS THEM ANYTIME
<MAGGIEB> I PUT THE EDITED LOGS UP AFTER THE CLASSES
<MAGGIEB> SO THAT YOU CAN ALWAY GO BACK AND CHECK STUFF
<MAGGIEB> OR IF YOU MISS SOMETHING OR A CLASS.....
<MAGGIEB> ANYHOW, ALL THE STAMPS AND INKS I USED FOR THIS CLASS
<MAGGIEB> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/abclass4.html
<MAGGIEB> WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE 4TH
<MAGGIEB> BUT CAN BE USED ALONE TOO
<MAGGIEB> ARE FROM ENCHANTED INK
<MAGGIEB> RED IS THE GREATEST
<MAGGIEB> AND SO IS HER STAMPS!
<MAGGIEB> DEEPLY ETCHED
<MAGGIEB> GREAT TO USE
<sparkle> and they have pretty color indexing on the mounted ones!
<MAGGIEB> I USED RANGER INKS FROM HER TOO
<MAGGIEB> THAT TOO!
<MAGGIEB> TY SPARKLE!
<MAGGIEB> OKAY....
<Janet> (my credit card is up on EI's hall of fame, I think)
<MAGGIEB> SO I DECIDED I WANTED TO WORK WITH THE FUN FISH STAMPS THIS TIME
<kat> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/abclassintro.html
<MAGGIEB> AND I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO START THE CLASS BY TELLING YOU WHAT DIDN'T WORK
<MAGGIEB> CUZ SOMETIMES THAT HELPS EACH OTHER TOO.....
<MAGGIEB> IS THAT OK?
<keribou> oh good- I like to hear that Maggie
<annie> great
<cindyc> yes!
<keribou> saves me time and a mess
<altogether> Absolutely
<kat> sure, It will save us making all the mistakes
<MAGGIEB> SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER I HAD SAID I WOULD TEACH BUBBLED PAPER.....
<MAGGIEB> WELL BUBBLED PAPER WOULDN'T WORK FOR ME!
<MAGGIEB> HERE IS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.....
<MAGGIEB> YOU TAKE WATER AND BUBBLE SOAP... I USED MR. BUBBLE BUBBLEBATH WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO WORK
<MAGGIEB> YOU USE 1/2 AS MUCH BUBBLEBATH AS WATE
<MAGGIEB> WATER
<MAGGIEB> SO TO 1 CUP WATER YOU USE 1/2 CUP BUBBLEBATH
<MAGGIEB> TO THAT YOU ADD .....
<MAGGIEB> WELL IT SAID A FEW DROPS OF
<MAGGIEB> FOOD COLORING, WATER BASED PAINT, OR DYE INTO THE WATER
<MAGGIEB> WELL I STARTED OUT ADDING SOME DYE INK.....
<MAGGIEB> FROM MY REINKERS FROM ENCHANTED INK
<kristi> that doesn't seem like much, given the volume of water/bubble
<MAGGIEB> YOU THEN TAKE STRAW AND BLOW BUBBLES SO THAT THEY FILL THE TOP OF THE WATER
<MAGGIEB> SUPPOSEDLY THE BUBBLES ARE FULL OF THE INK AND WHEN THEY BURST THEY LEAVE BUBBLE MARKS ON THE PAPER
<kat> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/abclassintro.html
<MAGGIEB> WELL.... IT DIDN'T WORK
<MAGGIEB> SO I ADDED MORE DYE INK
<MAGGIEB> IT DIDN'T WORK
<kat> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/abclassintro.html
<MAGGIEB> WELL WITH THE COST OF DYE INKS I TRIED FOOD COLORING.... LOTS OF FOOD COLORING....
<MAGGIEB> IT DIDN'T WORK
<MAGGIEB> IT DIDN'T WORK
<MAGGIEB> IT DIDN'T WORK
<brenda> lol
<MAGGIEB> FRUSTRATING
<kristi> I think I'll stick with bubble wrap then :-)
<MAGGIEB> I THOUGHT BUBBLED PAPER WOULD BE COOL
<MAGGIEB> WHAT A SEGUE KRISTI!!!
<MAGGIEB> TY
<kristi> LOL!
<MAGGIEB> SO I DECIDED TO EXPLORE OTHER TEXTURES!
<MAGGIEB> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/texturestudy.html
<MAGGIEB> WHICH I DID
<MAGGIEB> CLICK ON THAT LINK FOR MY TEXTURE STUDY
<MAGGIEB> THE TOP ONE IS DONE WITH SCRUNCHED UP WAXED PAPER... DRY WAXED PAPER LIKE THEY PUT SANDWICHES IN AT A DELI
<kristi> Ooo, I love all of those - I use them quite regularly
<MAGGIEB> CUZ THAT IS WHAT I HAD
<MAGGIEB> AND THE SECOND ONE IS WITH SCRUNCHED UP FREEZER WRAP
<MAGGIEB> THE 3RD IS WITH PLASTIC WRAP
<MAGGIEB> IT IS SMOOTHER
<MAGGIEB> NOT AS HARD EDGED
<MAGGIEB> THE FREEZER PAPER IS THE MOST HARD EDGED
<cak> Maggie, did you apply ink with these or remove ink from the paper with these?
<MAGGIEB> THE WAXED PAPER ABOUT THE MOST MEDIUM
<annie> sorry - but how do you click on the site and still stay here???
<cak> ooops, nevermind--you had to be applyhing
<MAGGIEB> I DABBED EACH ON A DYE INK PAD CAK
<MAGGIEB> GOOD QUESTION
<MAGGIEB> SOMEONE HELP ANNIE OUT??
<MAGGIEB> THANKS!
<MAGGIEB> ANYHOW THE LAST IMAGE SHOWS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU USE SMALL BUBBLED BUBBLE WRAP AS A STAMP
<MAGGIEB> I JUST WOUND SOME UP TO HOLD ONTO IT AND STAMPED WITH IT
<MAGGIEB> COOL BUT I THOUGHT TOO CARTOONISH
<brenda> annie you have to copy the addy and paste it into another browser window
<MAGGIEB> FOR WHAT I WANTED
<kristi> yeah - it's too regular
<annie> thanks
<MAGGIEB> SO I DECIDED TO USE THE PLASTIC WRAP
<MAGGIEB> FOR A RANDOM, SMOOTH FINISH
<kristi> have you tried layering with different colors and the different textures?
<kat> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/abclassintro.html
<MAGGIEB> IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACKGROUND OF http://maggieb.netfirms.com/ABclass4Pg1Lg.html
<MAGGIEB> YES
<MAGGIEB> YOU WILL SEE THE BACKGROUND
<MAGGIEB> I STARTED WITH USING LETTUCE
<MAGGIEB> ADIRONDACK COLORS AGAIN
<MAGGIEB> I LOVE THEM
<MAGGIEB> AND RANDOMLY STAMPED WITH THE SCRUNCHED PLASTIC WRAP ALL OVER THE PAGE
<MAGGIEB> THEN I DID IT WITH PESTO WHICH IS A DARKER GREEN
<MAGGIEB> ONLY MORE RANDOM
<MAGGIEB> AND FINISHED WITH STREAM WHICH IS KIND OF AQUA....
<MAGGIEB> ONLY HERE AND THERE
<MAGGIEB> WHERE I THOUGHT I NEEDED IT
<MAGGIEB> I TOOK THIS OVER AROUND THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT TOO
<MAGGIEB> TO HELP TIE THEM TOGETHER....
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN KINDA SEE IT HERE
<MAGGIEB> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/abclass4.html
<MAGGIEB> WEATHER DID NOT COOPERATE AND HAD TO TAKE DIGITALS INSIDE
<MAGGIEB> REALLY NEED THAT NEW CAMERA, LOL
<MAGGIEB> BUT YOU GET THE IDEA
<keribou> Maggie- question
<MAGGIEB> I THEN DECIDED I NEEDED TEXTURE
<MAGGIEB> YES KERI?
<MAGGIEB> SO I DUG THROUGH ENCHANTED'S FIBERS....
<MAGGIEB> QUESTION?
<keribou> is the book that you are creating about fish- or is that just the theme of your art?
<MAGGIEB> THE WHOLE BOOK REVOLVES AROUND VARIOUS AREAS WITHIN AN ENCHANTED WORLD....
<keribou> ok- ty
<MAGGIEB> LAST CLASS WE EXPLORED THE GARDEN AND FOREST.....
<MAGGIEB> NOW WE ARE AT THE ENCHANTED LAKE.....
<brenda> k
<MAGGIEB> I RANDOMLY GLUED SOME FIBERS TO BOTH PAGES....
<cindyc> how fun
<MAGGIEB> IS USED A HAIRY STRAND FOR THE SEAWEED THAT IS STILL GROWING ON THE LEFT
<MAGGIEB> AND A BROWN STRAND WITH RANDOM LOOPS FOR THE DEAD STRANDS LAYING ON THE BEACH
<MAGGIEB> IN THE RIGHT PIC
<MAGGIEB> HARD TO SEE
<MAGGIEB> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/ABclass4Pg2Lg.html
<MAGGIEB> BUT I WANTED LAYERS
<MAGGIEB> DIFFERENT LAYERS
<MAGGIEB> TO LOOK AT AND INTEGRATE
<MAGGIEB> HENCE WHEN IT CAME TO THE STAMPING....
<MAGGIEB> SOME OF THE FISH ARE STAMPED RIGHT ON THE PAGE ON THE LEFT
<MAGGIEB> SOME ARE DONE ON PAPER, COLORED BY STAMPING AGAIN WITH THE PLASTIC WRAP, AND THEN ADDED ON TOP OF THE PAGE WITH THE LITTLE BUTTON BEHIND FOR DIMENSION
<MAGGIEB> SO THAT IS STAMDS UP
<MAGGIEB> AND AWAY FROM THE PAGE
<MAGGIEB> SO THEY ARE SWIMMING OVER AND UNDER EACH OTHER
<MAGGIEB> EVERYONE UNDERSTAND?
<MAGGIEB> GIVES ME MORE FLEXIBILITY....
<MAGGIEB> EVERYONE WITH ME???
<cindyc> yup
Redstick is right here :)
<MAGGIEB> EVERYONE?
<cak> so far, so good
<kat> yes
<MAGGIEB> K
<vickieb> yes
<kristi> yep
<MAGGIEB> WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE ALL AWAKE!
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN TALK YOU KNOW!
<MAGGIEB> THIS IS MMMMYYYY CLASS
<brenda> nope
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<kristi> LOL
<annie> yes - still looking for the page - finally found the first one!
<MAGGIEB> WELL I WANTED TEXTURE.... LAYERS.....
<brenda> i want to learn it all
<MAGGIEB> I USED REGULAR FISH IN THE SEA...
<kristi> are the shells real or did you just have a great photo for the layering on the right side?
<MAGGIEB> BUT WANTED HUMOR ON THE RIGHT BEACH
<MAGGIEB> WILL GET TO THAT KRISTI.... GUESS I DID IT GOOD IF YOU CANNOT TELL!
<MAGGIEB> TY
<kristi> LOL
<MAGGIEB> ANYHOW TO INJECT HUMOR.... I HAVE RED [COOKED COLOR BUT DONT TELL THEM, LOL] LOBSTERS SERVING DINNER!
<MAGGIEB> I CARRIED THEIR COLOR ACROSS THE WHOLE TWO PAGES ON THE BOTTOM BY MIMICING THEIR COLOR IN THE STARFISH
<MAGGIEB> AND MAKING THEM GO FROM ONE PAGE TO THE OTHER..... TAKING YOUR EYE WITH IT
<MAGGIEB> I WANTED EVEN MORE VISUAL INTEREST....
<MAGGIEB> SO I STARTED DIGGING INTO ALL THE GOODIES AVAILABLE FROM ENCHANTED INK.....
<MAGGIEB> I HAD ALREADY USED FIBER....
<MAGGIEB> SO I GRABBED....
<MAGGIEB> FISH STAMPS!!
<MAGGIEB> WOW
<MAGGIEB> GREAT IMAGES!
<MAGGIEB> FUN STUFF!
<MAGGIEB> SO I PICKED OUT SOME AND SLAPPED THEM DOWN!
<MAGGIEB> USED THREE CUZ ODD IS BETTER....
<MAGGIEB> MORE BALANCED
<MAGGIEB> THEN I WENT LOOKING AGAIN.....
<MAGGIEB> AND THOUGHT....
<MAGGIEB> EYELETS!
<MAGGIEB> EYELETS MAKE GREAT BUBBLES!
<MAGGIEB> MORE TO LOOK AT!
<MAGGIEB> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/ABclass4Pg1Lg.html
<cindyc> oh good one!
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN SEE THEM IF YOU REALLY LOOK
<kristi> I see them
<MAGGIEB> IT ADDS MORE FOR THE VIEWER TO FIND
<kristi> great idea ) wouldn't have thought of
<Redstick> Yes! Kewl idea :)
<MAGGIEB> THEN I DECIDED I NEEDED TO WORK ON THE RIGHT PAGE .....
<MAGGIEB> THE ONE THAT HAD THE PIC
<MAGGIEB> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/ABclass4Pg2Lg.html
<MAGGIEB> SEE THE GREEN SEAWEED???
<kristi> yep
<MAGGIEB> EVERYONE SEE THE GREEN SEAWEED?
<vickieb> y
<MAGGIEB> IT IS NOT IN THE PICTURE....
<MAGGIEB> IT IS RED'S HAND DYED TISSUE!
<MAGGIEB> REALLY COOL
<MAGGIEB> OM OUR BEACH IF YOU LOOK
<Redstick> LOL!! I *thought* that's what it was!~
<MAGGIEB> THERE IS DEAD SEAWEED.... BUT THERE IS FRESH TOO
<MAGGIEB> SO I RIPPED IT TO SHAPE IT AND STUCK IT DOWN WITH GLUE!
<MAGGIEB> LIGHTLY
<MAGGIEB> SO THAT IT STILL HAD TEXTURE
<MAGGIEB> ADDED THOSE LOOPY PIECES OF YARN OVER IT
<MAGGIEB> NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS ALWAYS THERE!
<MAGGIEB> GREAT STUFF!
<MAGGIEB> WELL.....
<MAGGIEB> REMEMBER KRISTI ASKED ABOUT THOSE SHELLS?
<MAGGIEB> ???
<MAGGIEB> http://maggieb.netfirms.com/ABclass4Pg2Lg.html
<Redstick> yep...been trying to figure it out
<MAGGIEB> CHECK THE BOTTOM RIGHT PIC.....
<cindyc> y
<MAGGIEB> SOME ARE THE PICTURE ON THE PAGE..... O
<MAGGIEB> OTHERS ARE REAL!
<kristi> kewl!
<MAGGIEB> BUT I PLACED THEM SO YOU REALLY HAD TO LOOK TO SEE WHICH ARE WHICH
<MAGGIEB> IT REALLY INTEGRATES THE PIC WITH THE UPPER LAYERS
<kristi> It's hard to tell sometimes with digital pics - the depth is lost a bit
<MAGGIEB> AND I DECIDED TO EXTEND THE SHELLS OVER INTO THE SEA ON THE BOTTOM TO TAKE YOUR EYE BACK AND FORTH
<MAGGIEB> ITS KINDA HARD TO TELL IN PERSON KRISTI!
<MAGGIEB> THATS WHAT I LIKE
<MAGGIEB> NOW.....
<kristi> that's kewl
<MAGGIEB> WHEN YOU ADD THINGS LIKE THAT....
<MAGGIEB> YOU ARE ADDING DEPTH
<MAGGIEB> TO THE PICTURE
<MAGGIEB> LITERALLY....
<MAGGIEB> I USED SHALLOW SHELLS
<MAGGIEB> BUT THEY ARE STILL RAISED
<MAGGIEB> WHEN YOU ADD THINGS LIKE THAT TO YOUR BOOK
<MAGGIEB> OH AND I USED GLOSS GEL MEDIUM TO ADD THOSE
<MAGGIEB> IN CASE YOU WONDERED
<MAGGIEB> YOU WILL HAVE A LUMPY BOOK
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN HANDLE IT A NUMBER OF WAY
<MAGGIEB> IF YOU WANT TO AT ALL
<kristi loves books that yawn open
<MAGGIEB> LOTS OF AB ARTISTS LIKE IT TO YAWN OPEN
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<MAGGIEB> GMTA
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN JUST HAVE A LUMPY BOOK
<MAGGIEB> IT IS ACTUALLY OK
<MAGGIEB> SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY END UP PUTTING THEIR BOOK IN A BOX
<MAGGIEB> OR JUST LET IT LIE OPEN
<MAGGIEB> OR TIE IT WITH A RIBBON
<MAGGIEB> BUT IF YOU DO WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
<MAGGIEB> YOU CAN CUT HOLES IN ADJOINING PAGES
<MAGGIEB> TO FACILITATE THE ITMES
<MAGGIEB> ITEMS
<MAGGIEB> I CANNOT DO THIS WITH THESE CUZ IT WOULD RUIN THE LEFT HAND PAGE....
<MAGGIEB> OR YOU CAN REMOVE A BUNCH OF PAGES OUT OF THE BOOK TO MAKE ROOM.....
<MAGGIEB> IT KIND OF DISPLACES THE BULK
<MAGGIEB> UNDERSTAND???
<MAGGIEB> EVERYONE?
<vickieb> yes
<cindyc> yes makes sense
<altogether> I'm with you
<annie> yes
<MAGGIEB> MOST OF ALL YOU HAVE TO HAVE FUN WITH YOUR BOOKS....
<MAGGIEB> LET THEM TELL YOU WHAT TO DO....
<cak> it wouldn't be appropriate for this page, but you could mount the 3D item on pages below the one you're working on and cut holes so it appears on the working page
<MAGGIEB> TAKE OUT ALL OF YOUR SUPPLIES AND PLAY
<MAGGIEB> YES YOU COULD CAK
<MAGGIEB> THERE ARE LOTS OF OPTIONS
<MAGGIEB> THE IMAGINATION IS THE LIMIT
<MAGGIEB> INTEGRATE YOUR PAGES WITH IMAGES OR ITEMS THAT SPAN AND MOVE THE EYE
<kristi> yep - 1 rule - there are no rules :-)
<MAGGIEB> THAT IS TRUE KRISTI
<MAGGIEB> HAVING FUN IS THE ONLY RULE IN MY BOOK
<MAGGIEB> LOL
<MAGGIEB> NO PUN INTENDED
<MAGGIEB> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
<brenda> nope
<MAGGIEB> I CAN LET YOU GO BACK TO YOUR RAFFLE
<brenda> i am not at the raffle
<MAGGIEB> K
<MAGGIEB> BUNCH
<cindyc> me either
<MAGGIEB> ARE I THINK....
<kat> perfectly clear maggie
<cak> (nor am I--I haven't been keeping up with my mail)
<MAGGIEB> HARD WITHOUT INTERACTION
<kristi> I'm just happily bouncing between the two
<kristi> it's actually quire boring
<MAGGIEB> I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT OR WOULD HAVE RESCHEDULED
<brenda> maggie great class
<MAGGIEB> ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS????
<MAGGIEB> SHARING IS BEST
<kristi> over there - no chatter time because there are so many prizes to get through
<kat> I'm glad you did the class maggie
<MAGGIEB> WE ALL LEARN
<brenda> i am really learning a lot from the series
<keribou> good job Maggie
<altogether> Maggie can you talk about the gel medium a bit?
<kat> me too, i just want to get started
<cindyc> did you add any sand to the pages?
<annie> thank you, Maggie
<brenda> nite everyone
<MAGGIEB> I WILL DO ONE MORE BEFORE MY HIATUS
<vickieb> thanks Maggie
<MAGGIEB> I WOULD HAVE CINDY.... DIDN'T HAVE ANY AT HOME
<vickieb> bye all
<MAGGIEB> NIGHT BRENDA
<brenda> byeeeeeeeee
<cindyc> bye bb
<MaggieB> night all
<annie> bye
<altogether> Maggie - I have an AB question...
<MaggieB> yes altogether?
<altogether> ummm, the gel medium - do you find it looks a little shiney or messy
<MaggieB> no.... it dries very clear
<MaggieB> you can buy gloss or matte
<altogether> does it buckle papers?
<MaggieB> i like gloss for adding things
<MaggieB> not at all
<altogether> I'll have to give it a go
<MaggieB> didnt buckle my paper at all
<MaggieB> for the shells?
<MaggieB> i just put a glop on the page and stuck it in
<MaggieB> glop... that is the technical term
<MaggieB> lol
<kristi> lol
<altogether> Have to let it dry awhile I guess
<kat> love the technical terms
<cindyc> glop is universal isn't it? <W>
<kristi> it's my fav for dimensional items too
vicki makes note> get a glop spoon
<MaggieB> it dries fairly quickly
<MaggieB> but yes takes a little while
<cindyc> what is a good brand?
<kristi> vicki - get those sample spoons from the grocery stores of yogurt/ice cream shops and wash them at home
<MaggieB> lol
<MaggieB> a glop spoon?
<altogether> Yes - baskin Robbins for art supplies
<MaggieB> i use gel medium in a tube
<MaggieB> so the glop comes out the end of the tube!
<MaggieB> lol
<vicki> actually, i have a baggie full of new ones!
<keribou> or Avon reps have little spatula aplicators that they will sell you
<altogether> I have some in a pot but have been afraid of it
<kristi> oh, I have a tub from Liquitex
<kat> that's what I have kristi
<kristi> is the tube from GOlden?
<MaggieB> no from Liquitex
<annie> glop, pour, squeeze - it all works...
<cindyc> is it thin or thick?
<kristi> hmmm, I haven't seen that before - that would be handy
<MaggieB> thick
<MaggieB> it is old...
<MaggieB> dont know if sold in tube anymore...
<MaggieB> i like the tube
<kristi> bummer
<cindyc> ok thx
<MaggieB> big tube
<MaggieB> you can look for it
<MaggieB> it lasts forever
<altogether> Thanks again Maggie. Good night all.
<sparkle> maggie, thanks for soldiering through <G>
<cindyc> nite
<cak> I had trouble with my really old stuff separating (it *was* about 20 years old though)
<kristi> I haven't ever seen it before, but will keep it in the back of my head to check for whenever I'm at Jerry's, Meininger's or Art Hardwrae
<MaggieB> yw
<MaggieB> glad you could come
<MaggieB> you are all great!
<MaggieB> hope the raffle does well too
<kristi> I think you are speaking of yourself, Maggie!
<cindyc> thx for the class maggie.. g'nite all
<MaggieB> gnite cindy
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