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<cak> looks like a discussion tonight!

<brenda> yippieeeeeeeee

<Janet> hi!!

<Janet> I'm so glad to see so many teachers here tonight. :)

<cak> Hi--I thought Midnight and I would be lonely tonight, but people are starting to filter in

<beanjean1> rofl

<brenda> roflol

<brenda> janet teachers?

<Vyx> hat us, Midnight

beanjean1 goes to check her pics....did she add any new ones?

<Janet> Yes, Brenda. Tonight is "cheap and easy" discussion hour.

<LiBsTeR> Hi Kat

<kat> hi all

<Vyx> Hiya Kriz, hiya kat, hiya crow

<crowfafk> dang, wish i could stay but h. needs the computer-- jean, logging, have fun!

<Vyx> rehi amy

<brenda> bye jean

<kat> bye crow

<Janet> so who has the first idea forus??

<beanjean1> bye jean

<Vyx> You do, I hope! LOL

<Janet> Kat?? I know you always have something new.

<brenda> dominoes are soooooooooooo much fun

<vicki> janet, you have to start

<Vyx> Not me, not for cheap...

<Janet> LOL okay.

<kat> You can use drywall tape instead of magic mesh

<Vyx> I got some prismacolor pencils today and I'm in loooovvvveee.

<Vyx> Hiya Lynn

<kat> hi lynn

<Lynn> Hi

<LiBsTeR> aren't they cool, Vyx? I love mine

<Janet> Oh! good suggestion, Kat. Everybody got that???

<brenda> how does the drywall tape work kat?

<Vyx> Yes, wonderful!

<Janet> It works just like magic mesh, the drywall tape?

<Vyx> Mesh drywall tape, I've seen that at the hardware store.

<brenda> can you use it for glitter and foil?

<Vyx> You can paint it what ever color you want.

<Vyx> You can stipple thru it...

<brenda> neat

<kat> yep

<Janet> and it's not expensive at all.

<kat> fun stuff

<brenda> ok that is on my list of must have from hardware store

<Vyx> Not compared to the real magic mesh.

<kat> especially if you have some around the house

<Janet> Brenda sent me to the hardware store the next to the last time I went. (the very last time it was to replace my dear departed dremel)

<brenda> not right now

<brenda> for what janet?

<Vyx> hiya Scout

<Janet> For spackling. When you stamped into it.

<brenda> ooooohhhhh yes

<Scout> Hi, everyone!

<brenda> but not stamping

<brenda> for stenciling

<Janet> OH yeah. (like I bought the spackling but haven't done it yet)

<cak> just any weight of spackling will do?

<brenda> and you can color it with dye inks

<Janet> How do you do that?

<neetzl> Can you spackle onto paper without it cracking?

<brenda> i did it n cardstock

<Scout> just dont make an explosion card out of it

<Janet> just spackle with a stencil?

<brenda> just layed the stencil down and rubbed it across

<brenda> yep

<Vyx> I'd think... don't lay it on too thick. it cracks on walls if you lay it on too thick.

<brenda> if you want color mix it in a little container ahead of time

<cak> (sounds like Scout's voice of experience)

<Janet> no, this was a nice thin layer of it and the look was really awesome

<brenda> well a stencil isnt thick vyx

<brenda> so it isnt going to be too thick

<Janet> a little prisma glitter in there and wow.

<brenda> yep

<Vyx> what's an explosion card? LOL

<brenda> glitter while wet

<Scout> CAK, I just imagined it unfolding and all the stuff falling on your lap.

<Janet> LOL I can see that, too.

<cak> if you cut your own stencil out of the thin fun foam, woudl that be too thick?

<cak> lol

<brenda> it might be cak

<vicki> yes fun foam would make it too thick

<brenda> i like to use the sheets that are for quilters to cut stencils

<brenda> use a hot knife to cut with

<vicki> you can use the brass stencils, too

<Vyx> You cut your own stencils?

<brenda> or the plastic

<vicki> just wash em right away

<brenda> just make sure to remove the stencil before it dries

<brenda> you can vyx

<Vyx> What kind of things do you use to cut your own stencils?

<kat> You can also use the plastic that comes in bacon to cut your own stencils

<brenda> draw with magic marker

<vicki> sharp objects

<brenda> and then cut with hot knife

<Vyx> I meant pictures?

<brenda> yes

<brenda> ot coloring book shapes

<Vyx> Ah, coloring books... okay!

<brenda> magazine shapes

<Vyx> I bet those'd be good for shrink, too.

<Janet> It's almost summer, we eat more bacon in the summer when the tomatos are good. I think I'm gonna cut me some stencils

<brenda> just about anything

<brenda> yes vyx

<April> 8

<Scout> an explosion card is one where you take a big square, fold it up so that it is a smaller one (once diagonally, each way, some folded across regularly and then tuck in all the corners so it makes a square again. Then glue the back side onto a regular card and when they open it up, this big square unfolds and..

<April> 8tfed2ws

<Vyx> You fill it with confetti so it explodes all over?

<Vyx> April?

<brenda> my explosion cards dont work

<Scout> then if you put confetti in it, all of that falls in your lap, as opposed to dried spackle.

<brenda> april ?

<Vyx> LOL, I need some confetti.

<Scout> Was that a good enough explanation?

<Janet writes down April's password

<April> \]==ertyuiop[]\q34567890-=sdfghjykl;'

<cak> how come brenda? or perhaps I should ask how do they fail?

<Vyx> And to learn the confetti flinger thing.

<brenda> vyx buy a small punch and make your own confetti

<April> bzxcvbnm,./

<Vyx> Maybe the bunny is walking on the computer!

<cak> lol april!

<brenda> cak i am folding impaired

<vicki> april, wacha doin"????

<Janet> she's either got the bunny on the keyboard or else a whale of a lotta line noise

<beanjean1> you know there IS a kind of spackle that has something in it so it's LESS likely to crack

beanjean1 is thinking what it's called....

<April> -*/*;;'

<brenda> what kind bj?

<Janet> No, Jean, what???

<Scout> Oh, Brenda, anything folding I love.....tea bag, oragami,.....just gives me a kick to figure it out.

<Vyx> Crack proof spackle maybe? LOL

<Vyx> Hiya Deb

<brenda> hey deb

<kat> hi deb

<Janet> hey Deb!

<vicki> you could also mix it up with some glue

<deb> hi ya

<brenda> neat idea vicki

<deb> had to take a kid to town

<vicki> pva glue

<Janet> spackle and glue?

<beanjean1> it has an additive like ummm

<beanjean1> yes that might work vicki

<Scout> I love ummmmmmm

<beanjean1> there was an article in a mag about that stuff

<Scout> with salt

<Vyx> Do you also have to go get him later Deb?

Lynn thinks> I could help you learn to fold.

<beanjean1> could it be Vinyl?

<Vyx> or do you just get to leave him there. lol

<brenda> oh i wish so lynn

<Lynn> Lynn was trying to send to brenda!

<vicki> sure, pva means poly vinyl

<Vyx> folding is pretty easy, but I learned origami when I was a kid.

<beanjean1> ok, maybe that was it

<Janet> I'm folding-impaired, too.<g>

<brenda> i had someone that sent me a teabag folding sample

<beanjean1> If I remember b4 this is over I'll tell you

<Vyx> With diagrams there are rules, dashed this way fold towards you, or fold away, and never turn the paper over unless it says to.

<Scout> I didn't think you two were impaired on anything..

<brenda> she did each step separately so i could see how it was done

<deb> nnnope

<brenda> who scout?????????/

<Vyx> Brenda is brayer impaired too, or so she says.

<cak> did it help brenda?

<Janet> I am folding-impaired and calendar-impaired

<brenda> i am very bads with brayer

<neetzl> What is ummm?

<Scout> brenda and janet

<brenda> cak i can do the basic teabag now

<Janet> we've got a brayer class scheduled sometime soon

<brenda> but it is not real pretty

<brenda> scout

<Vyx> OTOH... I've never actually seen a card in person that Janet has done, so maybe she IS impaired...

<brenda> i am a basic stamper

<brenda> i always do easy stuff

<Scout> yeeessss?

<cak> (a lot of it is just repetition--especially the folds that need some accuracy)

<beanjean1> hey anybody see the vest card on Carol Duvall?

<Vyx> But Brenda has sent me stuff, very nice, very simple... and just about my speed, too!

<Janet> Oh! my "cheap and easy" suggestion for tonight was iced tea

<deb> whoa I looked up and thought that said - "I am a basic stripper"

<deb> whew

<brenda> lol deb

<Lynn> Saw the vest! Must do it soon!

<Janet> vest card and basic stripper?

<brenda> ty vyx

<beanjean1> you want me to do a class?

<April> ]that vest card is cool i have the book that it is from, iam going to try..

<Vyx> YES!!!

<vicki> what about iced tea??

<Scout> You mean the one on Carol Duvall this week?

<brenda> vest?????????????

<Janet> oh yes, Jean, that would be great!

<beanjean1> it would be a GREAT father's day card

<deb> yes

<brenda> i havent seen it

<April> yupp!

<Janet> Oh. Iced tea. It makes the best backgrounds!!

<neetzl> What's the name of the book with the vest?

<brenda> iced tea???????/

<Scout> Did it a few months ago from the book. Turned out really cute.

<Lynn> Vest card was an explosion card!

<Vyx> I haven't either but if Jean is gonna teach I wanna be here.

<Janet> and you can make your own exotic looking paper with it.

<cak> use it like watercolor?

<Vyx> Hiya Rabbit!

<beanjean1> ok deb I'll get with you or brenda (and and WON'T show it now ;-)

<vicki> found that out by accident??

<RubberRabb> Happy Birthday VYX!!

<brenda> exotic????????/

<brenda> today is vyx's birthday?

<April> yupp.it is a nice one..

<Vyx> ty Rabbit!

<Janet> actually I've done it like that, too. and painted with coffee. But I was thinking iced tea background paper

<brenda> happy birthday vyx

<beanjean1> and April too!

<April> Hi RR, didnt see you here!

<Scout> Happy birthdayt, vyx

<brenda> happy birthday april

<RubberRabb> Now I have to send YOU a belated birthday card.

<April> THANK YOU!

<Janet> Vicki, yeah, or close to. I had this school assignment watercolor once that I splashed coffee on.

<Scout> Happy birthday April

<Vyx> ty Brenda

<April> ty!

<Vyx> Ty scout

<beanjean1> lol janet

<RubberRabb> I didn't know your birthday was the 20th of april

<vicki> lol

<brenda> janet

<Vyx> thank you thank you all

<Janet> but the background paper that I made sorta by accident?

<brenda> how do you make the tea?

<beanjean1> did legs do some with tea in her somerset article?

<Vyx> I think so, BJ

<Janet> I like Cains tea. Usually make sun tea

<April> yupp! VYXand I are twins..

<brenda> k

beanjean1 is trying to jumpstart her brain

<RubberRabb> funny you don't look at all alike

<beanjean1> rofl

<Vyx> She was here telling us how to do faux old paper, and tea & coffee came into it.

<vicki> April never said how old she is

<Janet> Anyway, if you crumple up a piece of like typing paper?

<April> well we arent identical...lol

<April> 48

<brenda> crumple?

<Janet> so it's got crumple lines in it?

<cak> yes? (do I see crackles in our future?)

<RubberRabb> don't talk to me about tea> my electric kettle broke and I've been tealess for a week

<brenda> k

<Vyx> I know how old april is.. she's about

<Janet> get it wet

<Vyx> oh, she said.

<beanjean1> like just wad it up

<Vyx> lol

<brenda> water?

<Janet> like just wad it up, then get it wet

<Janet> with water

<cak> damp or really wet?

<brenda> k

<beanjean1> spray it wet?

<beanjean1> or dunk it?

<Janet> i just held it under the faucet

<brenda> k

<beanjean1> lol

<Janet> like making a big old spitwad

<RubberRabb> get it wet not damp

beanjean1 says what a MESS

<brenda> lol

<Vyx> She didn't say clean, she said cheap and easy, lol

<cak> (I like it already)

<brenda> me too

<Janet> well, yeah, nothing I do is clean<g>

<brenda> i love messy

<Janet> I like messy

<April> lol!Janet!

<cak> OK, so you have a sanitary spitwad

<Janet> so you got this big old spit wad, right?

<beanjean1> well, messy is ok...BUT I hate cleanup!!!

<RubberRabb> I like cheap and easy

<April> cheap and easy..and wet!lol

<beanjean1> roifl right

<RubberRabb> esp in Janet

<Janet> you can either dunk it in your tea glass?

<kaye> hello

<beanjean1> just put it in?

<RubberRabb> hi kaye

<Janet> or sort of unwad it (but it's still crumply looking) and paint your tea on there

<Lynn> hi!

<beanjean1> hi kaye

<Vyx> hiya Susie, hiya Kaye

<April> Vicki...someone wants you...lol

<RubberRabb> Janet is getting crumpled paper all wet and sticking it in her iced tea

<kaye> is there a url

<Janet> well, I did, I dropped it in there. But I have no squeemishness, I drank the rest of the tea later

<brenda> roflol

<cak> just in-and-out dunk or do you let it soak a bit?

<beanjean1> that is GROSS

<beanjean1> TMI

<Vyx> LOL, are you sure that wasn't your watercolor water?

<Janet> i just sorta dunked

<Janet> no, but I've drunk my watercolor water before, too

<RubberRabb> I guess you enjoy sizing in your tea, huh Janet?

<Janet> (that was on accident, though)

<April> oweee yuck..

<Janet> LOL

<RubberRabb> oh this explains a LOT

<neetzl> Can you use hot tea or does it have to be iced tea?

<Janet> now if you want cool flecks in it, Lea taught me that, you flick instant coffee on it

<Janet> well, you could use hot tea

<brenda> oooooh neat

<Janet> I wanted a nice pale mauve

<Janet> tea makes pinkish mauvish paper

<RubberRabb> you can also pull the teabag apart and flick the tealeaves on it too Janet

<cak> do you let it dry before unwadding or can you dry it relatively flat?

<beanjean1> AND after it dries and you spread it out, you can hit the high points with an inkpad

<Janet> or well, Cain's tea does

<beanjean1> and that's cool

<Janet> oooo tea leaves, too??

<Janet> Excellent idea!!

<RubberRabb> good tea makes a nice brown paper

<RubberRabb> that looks just like tea dyed paper

<Vyx> Speaking of Cains tea, Janet, how are you doing on that and coffee?

<RubberRabb> go for the cheap BLACK tea--the unnamed stuff

beanjean1 used to tea and coffee dye fabric all the time

<Janet> the coffee is long gone, I'm on my last box of Cain's tea, it's about time for a trip to Oklahoma :)

<RubberRabb> the only thing to remember with tea or coffee dyed paper

<RubberRabb> is that it is NOT acid free anymore

<Janet> yeah, RR?

<RubberRabb> so no using it in your good scrapbooks or near photos

<Janet> Oh, okay, I don't care about acid free anyways

<RubberRabb> well I mean the dye can bleed out

<Scout> Can you only buy cains tea in Okla? I've never heard of it.

<beanjean1> lol me either

<Janet> I figure if the book of Kells was made with urine soaked skins, I'm not gonna worry about a little acid on my works of art

[the logger was dropped momentarily here]

<beanjean1> rofl

<Janet> I bet you could iron the paper, once it's dry

<vicki> iron?

<RubberRabb> but it won't set the color

<beanjean1> I'm not sure if just ironing it would set the color or not

<Janet> to set the color

<Janet> it won't?

<RubberRabb> if the paper gets wet, the color will migrate

<beanjean1> well, throw it in the dryer

<Janet> but it would make it flatter, after it's dried and the crumple marks are set in

<beanjean1> a commercial one...

<RubberRabb> tea dying is great stuff

<Janet> OH! that's my other suggestion. Spritz it with alchol and it looks really cool

<Janet> (I'm so easily amused)

<beanjean1> why is it that if you WANT to get a tea stain out you can't?

<RubberRabb> but not permanent on paper. you can make it permanent on fabric by ironing it

<Janet> it's just the law, Jean

<Lynn> This reminds me. You can use crumpled brown kraft paper and dye it with shoepolish.

<beanjean1> but when you want it to STAY on something

<beanjean1> it WON'T

<RubberRabb> tha'

<Janet> Lynn, tell about that????

<RubberRabb> is just Murphy's law bj

<Janet> (I have grocery bags AND shoe polish here)

<vicki> yes, lynn, what does it look like??

<beanjean1> ohh I remember seeing that too

<brenda> guess what i found today?

<Lynn> Crumple. Rub or brush brown polish. Polish with rag or kleenex.

<beanjean1> looks like old leather

<vicki> cool

<Janet> oooo I bet that looks awesome

<brenda> i found my role of brown kraft paper

<RubberRabb> or crumpled shoes

<Lynn> great for Book cover.

<Janet> I have got to try that

<beanjean1> good for you brenda!!!

<brenda> so now i need brown shoe polish

<RubberRabb> and that would be somewhat waterproof--nothing like some wax

<vicki> i did a good background with kraft paper, too

<Janet> Keribou taught me how to make faux momi paper

<RubberRabb> I found out today how to make handmarbled and painted papers more waterresistant

<Scout> remember the old Scout wrap a bottle with masking tape and dye with shoe polish?

<beanjean1> I think you can get close with a Merories chestnut inkpad

<beanjean1> and then maybe a little wax....

<Janet> How, RR? I want to know that, too.

<vicki> crumple it up, and flatten it back out

<beanjean1> yup scout

<RubberRabb> I just watched Martha Stewart with this Italian marbler> he rubs the totally dry paper with a chunk of beeswax

<RubberRabb> and then burnishes it with a piece of agate

<beanjean1> ohhh very cool RR

<Janet> ooooooo very cool to know

<RubberRabb> makes a shiny and dirt/water resistant surface

<RubberRabb> esp for desk sets

<beanjean1> could use an old white candle (a good one NOT cheap one)

<cak> a lot of bookbinders use a microcrystalline wax called Renaissance (or whatever) for that

<vicki> then with a credit card, scrape lumiere paint across it, each color in a different direction

<RubberRabb> the cans you cover with marbled paper

<brenda> agate??????????

<RubberRabb> well Beeswax polishes up nicer

<RubberRabb> agate is the stone in a lot of burnishers

<brenda> k

<RubberRabb> to polish gold leaf

<Janet> How many colors, Vicki? or however many you want?

<beanjean1> yes vicki how many colors?

<vicki> at least 2 or 3

<beanjean1> like blue, teal and silver?

<beanjean1> or more of a contrast?

<Janet> and the kraft paper is crumpled? is it wet or dry?

<vicki> and leave some paper showing

<vicki> well, i do a lot with blue and purple

<vicki> crumpled and dry

<beanjean1> oh those are cool colors

<vicki> especially with lumieres

<vicki> i love them

<beanjean1> do you let it dry inbetween colors?

<RubberRabb> I finally learned an important stamping tip today too

beanjean1 NOW needs the blue, already ahs purple!

<vicki> nah, by the time you get 2nd color open, 1st color is dry

<Lynn> What?

<beanjean1> oh ok

<RubberRabb> when you stamp, don't put any old paper underneath you to work on

<vicki> bj, any colors will work

<RubberRabb> put a nice fresh piece of typing paper under your work

<Janet> no?

<beanjean1> thanks vicki

<Janet> why?

<RubberRabb> that way you get the greatest 'trash paper'

<Lynn> Print!

<RubberRabb> all your colors and extra bits of print

<beanjean1> hey I heard that

<Janet> I've gotta try that now, Vicki. I have all those ingredients, too.

<RubberRabb> yeah, Kathy Martin keeps telling me that

<RubberRabb> and I finally listened

<Janet> (utoh brb cat screaming again)

<beanjean1> BUT mine wouldn't be worth saving

<vicki> don't use a good credit card, janet

<beanjean1> rofl vicki

<Vyx> Well, duh. I've always used clean fresh typing paper under my work, but that's cuz I'm a neat freak about stamping.

<Janet> LOL I've got a few I've used all the good out of.<g>

<AmyLPRafk> how about the shaveing creamtechinique

<RubberRabb> well I always find some really cool patterns underneath my stamping

<RubberRabb> and it's always on awful paper

<beanjean1> lol RR

<AmyLPRafk> is easy

<vicki> oh amy, shaving cream is sooooo much fun

<Vyx> Or even get a big pack of plain white tissue paper... if you do a lot of lumiere or paint sponging.

<Lynn> I tried the shaving cream. Don't likr it!

<beanjean1> mine always just looks awful

<RubberRabb> yeah the shaving cream is super

<Vyx> Keep that under, and pull it out to let dry every so often.

<AmyLPRafk> wine look cool

<beanjean1> I haven't tried the shaving cream

<Vyx> I don't have any reinkers, so haven't tried shaving cream yet.

<Scout> I like the shaving cream, too. It's fun

<vicki> bj, add cheap shaving cream to your shopping list

<AmyLPRafk> use food cououring or even pint\

<beanjean1> ok I will!

<AmyLPRafk> paint

<vicki> vyx, you don't have to use re-inkers!!

<Scout> try to get one that smells good, as it smells a lot when you are working with it. Mint clears out your sinuses

<Vyx> I can use paint?

<vicki> it looks great with regular acryllic craft paint!!

Vyx has a LOT of cheap acrylic paints

<vicki> the cheaper the better!!!

<AmyLPRafk> yup, acrylic paint thinned with water

<Vyx> Wow, I had no idea. Okay, I'll take over dh's can of shaving cream and try that tomorrow, lol

<Janet> I loved the shaving cream stuff. Amy, how do you do it?

<Scout> But we tried some metallic re-inkers (copper) in it and it was too globby.

<vicki> oh, i didn't bother thinning it down

<AmyLPRafk> take a clean tray with high sides

<AmyLPRafk> fill ith shaveing cream

<Scout> at least 1/2 inches

<AmyLPRafk> drop reinkers or whatever on top

<Vyx> Drips of paint? this stuff is fairly thick, is it gonna work?

<AmyLPRafk> swirl it wit a comb or toopick or paint brush

<vicki> yes vyx

<AmyLPRafk> gotta thin it Vyx

<vicki> i didn't thin it

<Vyx> Oh, and that reminds me.. I need a big box of popsicle sticks, I'm tired of using my paint brushes to mix paint.

<AmyLPRafk> then put cs on top

<Scout> Sort of like swirling hot Friendly Plastic with a pick.

<AmyLPRafk> and gently smoosh it down

<Janet> Vyx, that's what God gave ya fingers for

<vicki> lol

<Scout> Or frosting on the top of a cake.

<beanjean1> rofl

<beanjean1> janet

<Vyx> Right, lol

<AmyLPRafk> then lift off the paper and wipe off the goo

<cak> (pallette knife would be good too)

<beanjean1> remind me NEVER to set you loose in MY craftroom, k?

<Janet> do you wipe off the goo right away?

<AmyLPRafk> i do

<Vyx> With acrylic paint, would I wait or wipe off asap?

<vicki> and remember to block out at least 2 hrs for this, as you just can't stop!!!!!

<AmyLPRafk> true

<Janet> Jean, face it, I'm a mess and I create an aura of clutter around me, sorta like Pigpen

<vicki> wipe it right off

<AmyLPRafk> right away Vyx

<Lynn> We dabbed with paper towels,,,carefully!

<beanjean1> really janet?

<Scout> don't expect your hubby to use the stuff thats left to shave with NO 1 rule

<Janet> LOL really. (surprise<g>)

<Vyx> Hell, everytime I get to stamping the day is taken over. That's why I don't stamp during the week, I'd never get to bed and never make it to work.

beanjean1 makes mental note...if janet comes to town, book her a hotel room!!!

<AmyLPRafk> lol

<Janet> Yeah, mine balked at that when I did marbling with it

<vicki> i used a dry wall scraper to take cream off

<Vyx> ROTF, Scout!

<Scout> vyx, the same thing happens to me when I sit at the computer.

<brenda> janet

<Janet> dry wall scraper!! add it to the hardware store list!

<Vyx> But he's been shaving in the shower with no shaving cream, so no big deal. And he likes the cheap stuff.

<brenda> when i finish getting moved

<brenda> i will have an extra bedroom without craft stuff in it

<Janet> am I invited to help BREAK IN the house?

<brenda> yes

<Janet> oh. without craft stuff?? can I sleep in the junk room?

<brenda> yes

<beanjean1> rofl

<cak> (I wouldn't capitalize the Break til you're invited Janet)

<brenda> it is going to be so nice

<April> lol

<Janet> I wouldn't know how to sleep if there wasn't craft stuff piled up around the bed

<Vyx> Buy some cheapo plastic scraper tools, that way if they get all icky and you forget to wash em... just toss em.

<beanjean1> does it have a bed?

<Janet> (LOL gotta point there, CAK)

<brenda> yep

<beanjean1> Vyx, I do that too

<Scout> I need someone to come to my house, clean out the craft room so I can put my rs stuff in there.

<Vyx> They'll be in the hardware store too.

<cak> I love those Vyx

<April> sounds like my craft room!

<brenda> i am finding all kinds of stuff

<Janet> I claim all plastic knives that come in with the carry in food

<brenda> for what janet?

<cak> mixing paint?

<brenda> i throw those away?

<beanjean1> i got rid of six HUGE bags of Wood stuff

<brenda> what can i save them for?

<Janet> for spreaders. mixing paint. spreading spackle

<Scout> All this stuff for crafting and sewing and now I don't do either because of computer and r.stamp. Hate to think of how much money involved in there

<beanjean1> gave it to the cub scouts

<Vyx> Y'all come over here, get my stuff moved out of my nook, then the big desk in, then all the craft stuff out...

<beanjean1> same here scout

<Vyx> And I will cook my almost world famous brisket or ribs or something... and have a party.

<Janet> Vyx, you can do that, but the craft stuff sneaks back in next to the computer like lil homing pigeons

<beanjean1> lol vys

<brenda> it took 8 days to just clean out one room in our house

<beanjean1> oops vyx

<beanjean1> oh brenda

<brenda> it was all craft stuff

<April> lol

<beanjean1> that's BAD

<brenda> not 8 sorry 6

<April> i know how that works...lol

<Scout> what did you do with it all? No one buys it at a garage sale

beanjean1 says it'd take me 8 YEARS to clean out my sewing room

<Vyx> Oh, I have NO craft stuff next to the computer. I have a seperate desk just for craft.

<cak> if you add paper and CD/LPs, that's our house brenda

<brenda> well that also included moving the shelving too

<Janet> I have a process here. Drying dominos are on the back of the keyboard.

<Vyx> Well, and I have the dining table, too, lol

<Janet> dining room table is the paper cutter and all the paper

<brenda> dh thinks he is going to be happy to have computer in the craft room

<beanjean1> hey my dh isn't real happy when I use the dining room table

<Vyx> And I meant, move the craft stuff back to the nook... augh, it's all gotta come out if I want that big desk in.

<RubberRabb> The only craft thing in my computer room is my PageSage and a basket with cards in it to acknowledge

<brenda> he will never see me again

<Janet> oh and some other stamps from the last time I was looking for a larger clean space

<Vyx> I'm about resigned to selling the new big desk.

<beanjean1> rofl

<Scout> Every week I have two friends who come and stamp on Fri. mornings and it takes me at least an hour to get the dining room table cleaned each week so we have a place to work.

<Janet> RR... how do you do that??

<Vyx> I'd have glue and glitter and crap in the keyboard... No room here!

<RubberRabb> what do you mean how do I do that

<brenda> RR that is all/

<Vyx> I don't even have room for my mouse.

<beanjean1> she doesn't CHATR and stamp

<RubberRabb> I keep the craft stuff in the craft room

<beanjean1> oops CHAT

<Janet> my craft stuff sneaks back to the computer. I think the paints IRC at night or something

<Vyx> I'm like RR... craft stuff is over there --->

<RubberRabb> I can't work and type

<Vyx> Computer is over here.

<Janet> I can't type without something else to work on <g>

<beanjean1> rofl janet

<RubberRabb> if I work I need the whole space and all the room to let stuff dry

<brenda> dang i sit and and chat and paint and do other things here too

beanjean1 EATS and types....which is VERY bad

<April> me too

<Janet> I don't think I could chat here on a keyboard without at least a little paint or glitter or maybe one little melted corner

<Vyx> If we are doing a class where I'm trying it right with class? I set up 2 or 3 tv trays.

<beanjean1> so I've been trying to have other things

<Janet> oh I eat here, too.<g>

<beanjean1> I've gained entirely TOO much weight

<RubberRabb> I don't do that--only ever did one class along with computer and that has been Janet's painting classes

<beanjean1> god idea Vyx

<Vyx> I eat at the computer tho... and drink my coffee every morning while reading my email.

<RubberRabb> but I tape the stuff to the cutting mat

<beanjean1> I never thought of TV trays

<RubberRabb> and work out of my lap so I can put it down

<Janet> My painting classes you NEED to do along with the class, it doesn't make sense unless you're doing it

<beanjean1> and my desk isn't usually big enough

<Vyx> Yeah, I do it for the watercolor classes.

<RubberRabb> I do sort out magazines and stamp stuff in the computer room

<April> i need the tv tray..

Janet blushes, she's got three desks set up here in a U shape, and they're all piled with craft stuff, she sits in the canyon of them)

<Vyx> One tray for the taped paper stuff, as much as I can fit. One tray for the water and paints.

<RubberRabb> so if anyone needs any back issues of Somerset or RSM let me know

<RubberRabb> LOL

<April> lol

<RubberRabb> I sit down once a year and cull my files completely

<brenda> wow efficient RR

<beanjean1> that's great RR

<RubberRabb> usually this time of year when I can't concentrate anyway due to my hay fever

<beanjean1> to take the time to do that

<Vyx> Well... maybe when I'm as ancient as y'all I'll be that organized, lol

<beanjean1> ROFL

<Janet> the theory here was that one of the desks would be a work surface. next time I'm gonna set the drafting desk up at a slant so less stuff gets piled on it

Vyx ducks and runs away

<RubberRabb> I put all my stuff in notebooks under the type of instruction

<Janet> LOL point for Vyx

<RubberRabb> or under card patterns

vicki slaps Vyx around a bit with a large trout

<beanjean1> rofl RR that's just WAY too organized

<Scout> hubby has said for 45 years that all tables in the house should have peaked tops.

<Janet> Before I have to go eat, I gotta share my last cheap and easy trick.

<RubberRabb> I found some of Legs' old classes

<beanjean1> HEY

<April> good idea, rabbit!

<cak> (Janet, you can stack a *lot* of stuff on a slanted drafting table)

<Lynn> Rabbit; Do you tear articles out of magazines?

<RubberRabb> was fun to re-read them all

<RubberRabb> yes sometimes

<Vyx> I probably should get organized NOW while I still have less than 200 stamps and only one iris cart...

<Janet> (LOL sounds like the voice of experience over there)

<Vyx> cuz I keep losing my RAK list...

<RubberRabb> other times I color copy them so I can trim off the excess

<beanjean1> true vyx

<cak> (it is)

<Janet> okay, let me tell my other cheap and easy idea

<RubberRabb> and just keep the instruction and the picture with the name of the artist

<beanjean1> ok janet

<RubberRabb> do tell!

<Janet> this is a GOOD one. It involves chocolate.

<Scout> only 200 stamps.....I can't remember that far back

<vicki> yes janet?

<cak> mmmmmmm

<Vyx> LESS than, Scout. LOL

<AmyLPRafk> choclate?

<beanjean1> lol scout she's just been stamping for a couple of months

<Lynn> idea?

<Janet> You know how to stamp on transparencies and then do the magic leaf on the back? looks so impressive?

<Vyx> But I only counted ums.

<RubberRabb> eat some every day

<RubberRabb> copy cat!!

<beanjean1> yes janet...

<RubberRabb> I told YOU that one Janet!!

<vicki> yes

<Janet> well... this diabetic's cheap and easy way is to save her candy wrappers and use those instead of leaf (that is so expensive)

<Scout> RR, you eat some unmteds every day?

<Vyx> ROTF

<Janet> LOL

<April> lol

<RubberRabb> no I'm the one who did the candy wrapper on the back of the acetate

<beanjean1> rofl

<RubberRabb> back in 1998 in convention

<Vyx> I have saved a big pile of foils from those hazelnut candies... what are they?

<RubberRabb> when I didn't have any gold leaf!!

<Janet> You are right!! That is RR's tip!!

<Vyx> Ferror Rocher?

<Janet> I remember now!

<Scout> what kind of candy does that diabetic eat?

<Janet> I've done it ever since.

<vicki> gone, vyx

<brenda> would foil from cig wrappers work?

<beanjean1> Terror Rocher <G>

<RubberRabb> but I did have all those halloween candies in gold and red and pumpkin

<RubberRabb> sure brenda

<brenda> neato

<Janet> Well, on good days, one mini-Reeses cup. On bad days three M&Ms

<Vyx> I saved mine to chop up and use in clay, but never did it.

<Janet> no matter how poorly I've eaten, I can't do without just a little nip of the chocolate

<RubberRabb> In fact the very card I made at the convention got published in 2000 in the Return to Asia issue of Somerset

<RubberRabb> Did it with the Hero Arts Fan

<Vyx> ROTF, with candy wrapper?

<vicki> cigarette foil is very nice foil

<Janet> That was an awesome card, I remember it.

<beanjean1> no kidding?

<RubberRabb> yep

<Vyx> Way cool!

<Lynn> Tell me about wrapper on acttate please.

<beanjean1> wow

<brenda> neato

<brenda> that was an awesome card

<Scout> Killed me not to buy girl scout cookies and eat all the extra Halloween candy since being diagnosed.

<Janet> Vicki! you are right!! Someone told that about a year ago in a class and I save cig foil ever since.

<Vyx> So I need a special kinda glue?

<beanjean1> well I need to go to bed

<RubberRabb> well everyone was using cold laminate with gold leaf

<RubberRabb> the peel and stick laminate stuff

<beanjean1> night all

<cak> (night bj)

<vicki> you can color cig foil, too

<brenda> bye bj

<RubberRabb> and putting gold leaf on the paper

<Janet> Scout, you freeze the mints, two thin mints with supper is okay

<beanjean1> this was fun janet

<Janet> if you

<Vyx> G'night BJ!

<beanjean1> thanks

<Janet> if you've eaten your veggies and all

<RubberRabb> but I didn't have any gold leaf

<vicki> nite bj

<beanjean1> byeeeeeeee

<RubberRabb> so I took the candy wrappers and put it directly on the sticky

<vicki> janet is your cig foil silver?

<Vyx> Okay, so that sticky stuff, that's what I want?

<brenda> i have some gold foil vucki

<brenda> vicki

<RubberRabb> yep clear contact paper is the cheapest stuff vyx

<vicki> wipe a brilliance pad over the silver

<Janet> yep. I got excited when my brand changed to what looked like gold foil, but it turned out it was just gold on the showing part, it's still silver the bulk of it

<Vyx> Okay! Finally, a use for all those candy wrappers... LOL!

<cak> you could just run some acetate through your xyron too, couldn't you?

<vicki> the gold stands on it's own

<RubberRabb> I've been thinking of doing it again, now i have a stash of the foil candy wrappers from easter

<Vyx> I was hooked on those chocolates for a while...

<RubberRabb> all in pastels

<Janet> oh!! you can "dye" it gold? what a great tip!

<vicki> or any color!

<Janet> Do it! I want to see the pastel foil card when you're done

<Vyx> And I still have Dove Truffle eggs saved from my post easter trip to get candy.

<vicki> it stays metalic!!

<RubberRabb> Well I have to get motivated first

<RubberRabb> No motivation right now--I hate it when trees have sex

<Janet> no kidding

<Vyx> I am clearing out the dominoes when I have all I need for the swap...

<vicki> rofl, rr

<Janet> the pecans are tassling now.

<RubberRabb> just drains all the energy outta me

<Vyx> Cuz I have this paper tole planned that I neeeed to do.

<RubberRabb> yeah I know--the elms just finished

<RubberRabb> the cedars are getting ready

<Vyx> Hiya Mizbit

<mizbit> hi

<RubberRabb> aaaaaa--chooo!

<Janet> the cedars always put me right under.

<Janet> Hey Miz bit!

<mizbit> hey janet

<Janet> So who had a cheap and easy tip they didn't share yet??

<RubberRabb> The other handy hint

<Janet> yeah?

<RubberRabb> Get a cheap notebook style address book

<yvonne> me

<RubberRabb> and keep your tips filed in it

<RubberRabb> alphabetical order

<Janet> oh. good idea!

<Janet> yes, Yvonne??

<Vyx> How about the drying flowers in the microwave, Janet... since for us southren gals our pansies are gonna die soon?

<yvonne> you can create great backgrounds

<RubberRabb> instead of all over the place

<brenda> but that is organizing

<yvonne> with hot glue

<vicki> oh rr, that's way too organized

<RubberRabb> Oh I've been drying my pansies

<Vyx> hiya Wizz

<RubberRabb> I go out between storms

<Janet> Oh, Deb scheduled a separate class for that. Nuking Nature (or do the wild thang with Janet)

<RubberRabb> and pick them

<cak> I like not having my tips organized, 'cause then I find all kinds of neat things when I look for that one tip

<yvonne> i use styrofoam blocks ads a base

<wizz> hello.. I guess I missed it all..

<Janet> How do you do backgrounds with hot glue???

<Scout> rr, where do you live? a lot of our trees are sending out pollen in San Diego, also

<deb> es we are NOT talking about nature tonight

<Vyx> Oh, right, I forgot. I was thinking it'd be in cheap and easy, lol

<RubberRabb> if you like doing that--I do recommend a Microfleur

<Janet> Nope, didn't miss it all.

<RubberRabb> Oklahoma

<RubberRabb> where I can get Cains all the time

<yvonne> you can write or doodle with hot glue on a block

<RubberRabb> but I don't

<kaye> night all

<Vyx> g'night Kay

<yvonne> then let cool, ink and stamp

<Janet> (It was gonna be, but we decided it would take too long for a discussion hour, so it's its own class now<g>)

<Vyx> er, kaye

<Vyx> with an e

<mizbit> nite

<yvonne> you can even do words

<RubberRabb> I heard you can do that glue thing on an old rubber mallet

<Vyx> I have a hot glue gun I never use, I'll have to try that.

<Janet> wow. make yer own stamp with hot glue.

<RubberRabb> and use the mallet to do the pings in your metal

<Vyx> Does it peel off the paper or what?

<Lynn> Yvonne...what kind of block?

<cak> apparently hot glue stay sticky enough even when cold to foil

<yvonne> styrofoam

<RubberRabb> cool yvonne

<yvonne> from packaging

<Vyx> cool melt hot glue?

<RubberRabb> course you can stamp with the styrofoam too

<RubberRabb> and the peanuts

<Lynn> Thanks!

<Scout> Tip...when using an old rubber mallet, put a panty hose over it and it won'd leave scuff marks

<Vyx> Oooh, and I have all these styrofoam blocks I've been saving (for what I didn't know)

<RubberRabb> peanuts make a great texture

<yvonne> i let one bubble up, looks like bubbles

<Janet> oh that's a great tip, Scout.

<Vyx> What are we using the mallet for?

<RubberRabb> I put a little rubberfoot on the other end of my tack hammer

<RubberRabb> so now I have a little rubber mallet, too

Vyx got lost

<RubberRabb> beating sense into the postman

<Janet> LOL

<Vyx> Hammers, that's a guy thing isn't it? LOL

<vicki> rr arabit's foot??

<Janet> Not around here.<g>

<RubberRabb> no--tools are now a gal thing

<RubberRabb> rabbits don't have rubber feet

<Janet> I'm the tool talk gal in this household. the pharmacist is too busy cooking to do tool things too

<RubberRabb> we gots purty feet

<vicki> dh, steals MY tools!!!

<Vyx> I have a jewelry anvil and lil hammer... haven't used em, cuz y'all got me sucked into stamping.

<Vyx> It's taken over my life.

<RubberRabb> use the rubber mallet to beat some sense into him

<Janet> LOL.

<RubberRabb> paint your tools girly pink

<April> my rabbit has beautiful feet!

<April> pretty white ones!

<Janet> that new halo pink lumiere paint would be just about right.

<Vyx> I'm the tool gal here, but I always have been.

<Lynn> Use rubber mallet for pounding flowers!

<RubberRabb> well we rabbits don't go for tanning our feet

<Scout> hubby is always borrowing my heat gun to shrink thingswith

<RubberRabb> yeah I found a piece where someone pounded flowers into their fabric

<Janet> Jen!

<April> welcome to our colt , Vyx!

<jenmist> hello

<Vyx> My father in law wasn't really joking when he said he didn't gain a daughter, he got another son... LOL

<RubberRabb> Hi Jen!!

<April> cult ...Hale, Janet!

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