<secondstar> CLASS SAMPLES ARE AT http://secondstarontheright.com/embossing.htm
<brenda> awesome samples
<deb> oh wow
<secondstar> ty
<jaxstamper> ok, everyone else needs to stop going to the page, I can't get it to load!!!! LOL!!!! Just kidding....
<deb> lol
<secondstar> NOT REALLY VERY MANY SAMPLE THIS TIME
<deb> tha's ok
<jaxstamper> oh my gosh, it just loaded.....really awsome photos and samples
<secondstar> CAUSE I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT
<Kanga> great work!
<Lory> ok i closed it yall can have it now
<deb> lol
<secondstar> INSTAED AF DESCRIBING HOW TO DO A SINGLE PROJECT
<secondstar> I'M GOING TO TRY TO SHARE EVERYTHING I'VE LEARNED ABOUT EMBOSSING
<brenda> neato debc
<Aussie_Pam> sounds good to me
<Kanga> share away!
<arielart> Good! I have the embossing tool but get lost.
<secondstar> AND IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SHARE
<Teri> Hey Sara, it's Faststamper from RH
<secondstar> JUMP IN HERE!
<Kanga> lol
<secondstar> OK - HERE WE GO
<arielart> I have a hard time embossing. It is supposed to be easy but not for me.
<April> lol
<secondstar> THE FIRST SAMPLES SHOW SOME PIECES I DID WITH MELTED EP
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/embossing.htm
<secondstar> AND EITHER MOLDS OR DIRECT ON THE STAMP
<jaxstamper> where do you get the molds?
<secondstar> I USE 5 MINUTE MOLD PUTTY TO MAKE THE MOLDS
<brenda> where do you get the putty from?
<cak> my question too. And--is it the same as the Gedeo?
<secondstar> YOU CAN BUY IT AT http://dxmarket.com/micromark/products/81853.html
<secondstar> it is very similar to gedeo
<deb> I think we have some vendors here who might sell those products
<secondstar> it takes a minute or two longer to set up
<secondstar> but is much cheaper
<Susie> Sorry I am late. I got stuck at Home Depot.
<deb> lol
<cak> can you heat set the non-gedeo stuff? (I'm like a terrier with a rat sometimes)
<Marion> I'm late too. Family came home late for dinner. Sorry.
<secondstar> haven't tried heat setting it
<cak> it probably doesn't take that long anyway though
<cak> (since it's called 5 minute mold putty)
<secondstar> I MELT THE EP ON A LITTLE GRIDDLE I BOUGHT AT FRED MEYER
<secondstar> THE MEASURING CUPS YOU SEE IN THE PHOTO ARE TEFLON COATED
<jaxstamper> where do you get those?
<Teri> Do they have to be Teflon coated?
<secondstar> I GOT THEM AT LINEN'S AND THINGS
<glitrbug> Aren't you smart. that way you can do several colors
<Susie> So are the griddles cheap? (and measuring cups?)
<Kanga> what type of Ep do you use? Fine, UTTE, ?
<secondstar> THEY HAVEN'T HAD THEM AGAIN FOR A WHILE
<secondstar> IF ANYONE FINDS THEM - SHARE!!
<Teri> How's the store coming along
<secondstar> YOU CAN USE ANY EP
<Teri> oops
<Susie> URL?
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/embossing.htm
<secondstar> I FIND THAT BY MELTING IT ON THE TEFLON SHEET YOU USE MUCH LESS
<secondstar> JUST PUT A BLOB ON THE SHEET, LET IT MELT AND THEN LIFT THE SHEET AND POUR INTO THE MOLD
<secondstar> BEING CAREFUL NOT TO BURN YOURSELF
<AliciaG> i have asbestos fingers
<labelle> do you use a mold release?
<rabbitsmom> that lets me out
<secondstar> NO - THEY POP RIGHT OUT
<labelle> tx
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/embossing.htm
<Susie> I am confused, you use teflon sheet and heat gun to melt. Or teflon sheet on your griddle?
<secondstar> IF YOU WANT TO USE A STAMP - COVER IT WITH SOME CLEAR EMBOSSING INK
<secondstar> TEFLON SHEET ON GRIDDLE
<cak> secondstar, what temp is this best to do? Or do the griddles only have Off and On?
<Kanga> Where do you get the teflon sheet?
<secondstar> MINE HAS A THERMOSTAT
<lois> thanks\
<secondstar> I SET AT ABOUT 375
<Susie> Need a griddle then I guess. Cann you use it for food ever again? SInce the teflon sheet is there? I think my husband will kill me if I have any more stuff though.
<cak> (hamburgers!)
<secondstar> MELT A PUDDLE OF EP ON THE SHEET
<secondstar> SET THE STAMP INTO IT
<secondstar> THEN LIFT THE SHEET OFF THE GRIDDLE AND SET ASIDE TO COOL FOR A MINUTE OR TWO
<Sara> does this work only with the thick ep?
<secondstar> I USED ALL REGULAR EP
<Sara> oh, neat! I know where to find lots!
<Sara> your samples are gorgeous!
<secondstar> THE DRAGONFLY WAS DONE WITH REGULAR CLEAR EP
<Teri> So you pur it into the mold? How long do you let it set?
<secondstar> AND I MIXED IN SOME HOLOGRAPHIC GLITTER WHILE IT WAS ON THE GRIDDLE
<Susie> ooooh, I like the dragonfly
<secondstar> LET IT SET 4-5 MINUTES
<secondstar> TILL IT IS ALMOST COMPLETELY COOL
<secondstar> THEN POP IT OUT
<Aussie_Pam> the heat doesn't hurt the stamp?
<brenda> neato
<secondstar> YOU CAN TRIM ANY OVERFLOW WITH SCISSORS
<labelle> is the dragonfly a mold or stamped image?
<secondstar> IF YOU DO IT WHILE IT IS STILL WARM
<secondstar> THE DRAGONFLY WAS A MOLD
<Aussie_Pam> Teri let me know when, I may want more too
<labelle> ty
<Susie> Was this a mold you made?
<secondstar> YES - FROM A SET OF WIND CHIMES
<Teri> What you trim off, can you use it again?
<secondstar> YES, YOU CAN USE IT AGAIN
<Susie> Oh. I was going to ask where the image came from, I love it.
<hoppyanno> oh.. good question!
<Teri> Yippee
<secondstar> JUST KEEP YOUR TIMMING IN SEPARATE BAGGIES
<secondstar> BY COLOR AND USE AGAIN
<Teri> good thought
<secondstar> SOME OF THE POWDERS I USED WERE THE TYPES WITH GLITTER IN THEM
<cak> did the glitter change how the ep reacted?
<secondstar> IT DOESN'T SHOW REAL WELL IN THE PHOTOS, BUT THEY ARE REAL SPARKLY
<secondstar> GLITTER STAYED FINE
<twodog> Sorry I'm late. Could you post site to look at again?
<secondstar> I USED THE CREATIONS UNLIMITED POWDERS THAT I SELL ON MY WEB
<Teri> On the tile image, is that done in glitter?
<secondstar> BARB USES HEAT STABLE GLITTERS
<secondstar> TO MAKE THEM
<Kanga> Is there a teflon sheet on the griddle. where do you get the sheet from?
<secondstar> THE TILE IMAGE IS FROM MY TIME TRAVEL SHEET
<cak> cool, thanks secondstar
<secondstar> I JUST MELTED A BLOB OF EP - COLOR WAS TWILIGHT
<Teri> Did you make a "mold" of the stamp or stamp directly onto the melted EP?
<AliciaG> woo tucson!
<secondstar> SET THE UM INTO IT
<tucsonbrookie> 'lo
<secondstar> THEN TOOK THE TEFLON SHEET OFF THE GRIDDLE AND LET IT COOL FOR A COUPLE MINUTES
<Teri> Can you use rub-ons on top of the image after it comes out of the mold to highlight areas?
<labelle> SS - what about the butterfly in the last photo, how did you do it?
<secondstar> TRIMED THE EXCESS OFF AND THEN HIGHLIGHTED WITH SOME GLITTER GLUE
<deb> /msg brenda I didn't find stuff - but I think someone in the mall sells that stuff
<cak> the weight of the mount will "sink" it into the ep the proper depth (and how do us um'ers do that?!)
<cak> (uh, that was a question)
<lynn> can you use pearl ex for some color
<tucsonbrookie> I'm very late and need the site to look at the samples, please
<LindaR> http://secondstarontheright.com/embossing.htm
<Scooter> So you can either melt in pot on griddle or on Teflon sheet on griddle?
<secondstar> YOU CAN USE RUB ONS, PX, POWDERED PEARLS ETC
<secondstar> YEP
<lynn> ty
<tucsonbrookie> thx cak
<Teri> If you melt in a pot, does it have to be a Teflon pot?
<secondstar> YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN GLITTER GLUE
<secondstar> I DIDN'T HAVE ONE IN THE RIGHT COLORS
<secondstar> SO I MIXED SOME EARTH FAIRIE GLITTER INTO SOME ELMER'S GEL GLUE
<secondstar> YOU WANT TEFLON
<Teri> ty
<secondstar> IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET IT BACK OUT AGAIN
<LindaR> Have you tried regualr white ELmer's?
<cak> lol (good point!)
<Teri> Thanks Deb
<secondstar> STICK A POPSICKLE STICK IN
<secondstar> WHILE IT IS STILL HOT
<secondstar> AND THEN YOU CAN LIFT IT RIGHT OUT WHEN IT COOLS
<Aussie_Pam> Teri, I'll tell you later where you can find the teflon sheets
<Teri> Cool!!
<secondstar> YOU CAN FIND THEM AT MANY COOKING STORE
<cak> glitter on a stick?
<secondstar> FRED MEYER IN THE PNW
<Aussie_Pam> maybe what you are talking about are different from what I was sold here
<Aussie_Pam> as being the latest stamping item from the US
<secondstar> FOR THE CARD I SHOW
<secondstar> I DID AN EMBOSSED BACKGROUND
<secondstar> USED A FISCARS BRAYER WITH A WEAVE PATTERN INSERT
<secondstar> BRAYERED CLEAR EMBOSSING INK
<secondstar> ONTO BLACK CS
<SusanR> url pls?
<secondstar> THEN EMBOSSED WITH TUCSON EP
<secondstar> http://secondstraontheright.com/embossing.htm
<SusanR> ty
<secondstar> MAKES A REAL INTERESTING BACKGROUND
<Teri> Weave patterned insert? Is that the roller itself?
<secondstar> IT'S A ROLLER
<Kanga> can yu go into more detail? What color of ink? Rolled after embossing?
<cak> Wow! I thought it was cheesecloth
<secondstar> THEY HAVE SEVERAL INTERCHANGEABLE ONES
<Teri> Just another roller on the handle?
<secondstar> YES
<Teri> ty
<secondstar> AND DON'T FORGET ABOUT DOING TILES WITH EP
<SusanR> so sorry...for that url...it says unable to display page?
<secondstar> I STILL LIKE COATING MAT BOARD WITH MELTED EP AND STAMPING INTO IT
<LindaR> http://secondstarontheright.com/embossing.htm
<secondstar> TY
<secondstar> ONE HINT
<jaxstamper> only one? lol
<cak> SS, you do this the regular way--embossing fluid, then ep. or do you dip these too?
<secondstar> A LOT OF THE TILES I SEE DONE DON'T FINISHE THE EDGES
<secondstar> OR PUT TAPE AND BEADS ON THE EDGE
<Teri> How do you finish them?
<secondstar> IF YOU COAT THE EDGES OF A TILE WITH INK FIRST THEN DIP INTO PODER AND HEAT
<secondstar> YOU WILL GET A NICE FINISHED EDGE
<secondstar> THEN COAT THE REST OF THE TILE
<LindaR> so you do it first and then emboss the top?
<secondstar> YES
<cak> cool! A very nice edge finish! thanks
<Aussie_Pam> hey, it worked!
<secondstar> I FOUND A GREAT SOURCE FOR FREE MAT BOARD
<AliciaG> this is the neatest stuff!
<Teri> You could use a differnt color as well, couldn't you?
<Holly> you won't mess up the sides if you finish them first?
<brenda> where debc?
<Aussie_Pam> oops,
<secondstar> U FRAME IT STORES
<brenda> ah ok
<secondstar> THEY ARE HAPPY TO GIVE AWAY THEIR SCRAPS
<brenda> how do you cuut it?
<secondstar> I CUT ON A FISCARS ROTARY CUTTER
<brenda> ok ty
<cak> is this 2 ply or 4 ply board SS?
<Susie> the paper cutter kind or the handheld?
<Sara> i've even been known to use scissors on mat board for small quantities!
<secondstar> IT'S THE BIG TABLE TOP ONE
<LindaR> me too. you usually need to do a couple of passes, but it works.
<secondstar> TRY DOING ASSYMETRIC OR TRIANGULAR TILES
<Susie> I got illustration board for this, but I was trying to figure out HOW to cut it. Might be heavier than matt board.
<LindaR> an exacto with a metal edge ruler works too.
<LuniLadi> I asked for the scraps from Joannes...they *have* to throw them out
<secondstar> THEY LOOK REALLY GREAT ON A JOURNAL TOP
<LuniLadi> Isn't that stupid
<deb> sometimes you can take several swipes through the board
<Holly> Luni so does Michaels
<deb> and it will cut
<secondstar> JOANNE AND MICHAELS SELL THEIR SCRAPS
<Holly> they put them in a compactor
<Susie> I didn't think Michael's would give out scraps.
<secondstar> FRAMING STORES WILL USUALLY GIVE THEM AWAY
<deb> michael's sells them
<Holly> my Michaels only sells the big pieces
<Holly> they trash the little ones
<deb> some stores are different
<secondstar> I OFTEN GET BIG PIECES THAT ARE GREAT FOR HANDMADE BOOKS
<deb> hobby lobby does not give theirs away or sell them
<LuniLadi> not the little ones deb...they *throw* them out
<Teri> Print shops give away their scraps
<LuniLadi> what a waste
<stampink> Michael's will sell 5 x 7 or larger
<Aussie_Pam> you get nothing for free down here in aussie land!
<secondstar> OK- A TIP ABOUT STICKY POWDER
<stampink> They are required to throw the rest away
<Teri> All sorts of paper products from them!!
<Holly> I love my print shop, they save everything for me
<secondstar> I HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH IT NOT WORKING
<cak> Oh! that heat to make sticky stuff? I"ve been afraid to use it
<secondstar> DID YOU KNOW IT HAS A SHELF LIFE?
<Susie> I just got some, haven't tried it yet.
<Holly> I love the sticky powder
<Teri> I can't get it to work
<brenda> nooooo
<Susie> nooo
<Holly> you just can't heat it too long
<brenda> didnt know that
<Teri> it dies??
<cak> no I didn't!
<Teri> oops, does
<secondstar> IF IT IS OLDER THAN 6 MONTHS IT DOESN'T WORK AS WELL
<Susie> I guess you got to hope the store hasn't had it too long then.
<cak> (it dies is, apparently, appropriate too)
<secondstar> AND DON'T OVER HEAT
<brenda> k
<pmstamper> How can you tell if overheated?
<Holly> pm, it loses it's sheen
<LindaR> any idea why it won't work after 6months?
<secondstar> YOUR BEST BET IS TO BUY IT FROM AN INTERNET DEALER WHO SELLS LOTS OF IT
<labelle> any tips for using up "old" sticky powder
<cak> I guess that's when one of those cute little weeny heat guns would be better?
<Kanga> what is sticky powder
<Teri> Wonder if there is an expiration date on the bottles
<secondstar> DON'T KNOW WHY - BUT KNOW IT WON'T WORK
<Holly> lol cak
<Aussie_Pam> guess I had better check mine. It's ooooold
<secondstar> I USE MY MARVY GUN
<secondstar> THE MILWAUKEE TOASTS IT
<Holly> I'll bet a lot of you people who have bought some and not used it will run home and open it tonight
<cak> lol
<Aussie_Pam> you bet!
<Teri> ROFL
<secondstar> THE POWDER I SELL ON MY SITE IS MADE FRESH EACH TIME WE ORDER IT
<Holly> that will be about the only thing we stampers don't hoarde!
<Kanga> what is sticky powder?
<secondstar> YOU USE IT LIKE EP
<LuniLadi> ty brenda
<secondstar> BUT IT GETS CLEAR AND STICKY AFTER YOU HEAT IT
<Holly> kanga it's an ep that you heat up and it gets tacky so you can stick foil and glitter and powdered pearls on
<Susie> Didn't realized you carried it Deb. Had a hell of a time tracking some down.
<Kanga> ty
<Teri> SS, the card with the pots, they look 3D. How are they done?
<secondstar> I'M CARRYING A FULL LINE OF EP, STICKY POWDER AND GLITTER NOW
<cak> Yay!
<secondstar> I STAMPED THE POTS ON ACETATE WITH BRILLIANCE
<secondstar> FOILED THE BACKS
<secondstar> AND USED MOUNTING FOAM TO RAISE THEM OVER THE BACKGROUND
<labelle> very kewl
<Teri> This is so cool!!
<secondstar> ALL OF MY POWDERS AND GLITTERS ARE ON SALE DURING THE CONVENTION
<labelle> tell us more ---
<Terribear> I agree tell us more
<secondstar> IF YOU HAVE SEEN THE CREATIONS UNLIMTED BOOTH AT SOME OF THE CONVENTIONS
<AliciaG> ooh
<secondstar> THESE ARE THE SAME POWDERS
<LuniLadi> Oh they are *gorgeous*
<secondstar> WHEN I'M NOT DESIGNING STAMPS FOR SECOND STAR
<Teri> SS, do you have a store in Federal Way or just a website?
<secondstar> I'M DESIGNING POWDERS FOR BARB
<secondstar> JUST A WEB AND THE CONVENTIONS
<Teri> Darn
<secondstar> ARE YOU IN WA
<Teri> Yep
<Marylou> How are the sticky powders different than regular ep
<Teri> 30 minutes from FW
<Holly> I gotta run, but thanks for the great class
<secondstar> EMAIL ME - I CARRY MY STUFF TO SOME OF THE LOCAL STAMP CLUBS
<Holly> nite everyone
<secondstar> ANY QUESTIONS?
<beanjean1> hi
<Teri> gotcha
<Susie> Hey Deb, when I went to look at the color charts for the EP's - the enlargements are the pics from today's class.
<LindaR> Deb, the links to the enlarged colors charts for the EP don't work any more.
<beanjean1> may I see the samples please?
<LindaR> They show your griddle pix
<Marion> Thanks. I may have lurked but I learned.
<secondstar> UH OH!
<secondstar> DEB HAS TO GO FIX HER WEB SITE
<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/embossing.htm
<cak> lol
<Susie> I think you must have put the class page in the same directory and used same names
<AliciaG> I love the samples on your site!
<secondstar> I THINK I KNOW WHAT I DID - COLORS WILL BE BACK ON LINE SOON
<Teri> okay
<deb> wonderful class Deb Cowan
<secondstar> TY
<AliciaG> thank you deb!
<LindaR> great, looking forward to seeing the colors in close up.
<Kanga> thank you for the class!
<Susie> So suggestions on what to buy to melt the EP for pouring?
<jaxstamper> those colors sound wonderful
<brenda> deb cowan great class
<arielart> Thank you, deb!
<Teri> Thx Deb
<LindaR> anothre winner deb. Got to get some of that molding compound.
<tucsonbrookie> thanks
<Susie> Do't want to spent too much, but more importantly it should take up too much space.
<twodog> thanks for the class.
<Aussie_Pam> thanks a lot Deb. I'll go check out your site a bit later.
<deb> next event is in #pagesage
<secondstar> FOR PORING - ANY SMALL PAN OR CUP THAT IS TEFLON COATED
<cak> Thank you SS--lots of good info!
<Sparkee> Thanks. Bye.
<Susie> That is not so bad. What about for heating?
<pmstamper> Thanks, sorry I missed some as I am taking a break from work. Try to catch more classes later.
<Susie> Turns out I have a teflon sheet, I never really use for baking anyway.
<secondstar> I USED A SMALL GRIDDLE
<lynn> ty secondstar some really cool Techniques:)
<Susie> Have to see if I can find one cheap then.
<Susie> Do you ever use for food again?
<beanjean1> the samples are great
<secondstar> NO!!
<Susie> OK, wasn't sure since you had the teflon sheet there.
<Scooter> Do we mention anything to get the discount on the ep from your site?
<secondstar> I GOT THIS ONE CHEAP - ABOUT $15
<LuniLadi> deb. sorry I came in late (puter problems big time)..Could you retell class specials?
<secondstar> AND SAVE IT FOR JUST EP
<Susie> I need SO many kitchen appliances for my crafts. Cause I am still looking for a cheap toaster over and pasta machine for PC.
<LuniLadi> lol
<Teri> Check out the second hand stores
<secondstar> ALL EP AND GLITTER ARE ON SALE
<Susie> Maybe walmart's has cheap? $15 would be OK, $30 is too much.
<tucsonbrookie> garage sales too
<secondstar> REGULAR $3.50
<Susie> Yeah, I need to find yardsales.
<Teri> Great bargains for "old" appliances
<secondstar> ON SALE FOR $2.95
<LuniLadi> wow...
<Susie> Ijust can never seem to find any garage sales.
<LuniLadi> only tough thing is picking...lol
<LuniLadi> till the end of the convention deb?
<cak> you got that right Luni
<secondstar> YES
<LuniLadi> thank you!
<Teri> Thanks again Deb. Gotta go cook dinner
<LuniLadi begins her list
<Aussie_Pam> bye teri talk to you later
<secondstar> GOTTA GO TO
<secondstar> TTFN
<deb> thanks deb
<Teri> I;ll e-mail you later
<LuniLadi> so long
<cak> bye!
<Scooter> Thanks for a great class!
<labelle> ty and bye
<Susie> Thanks Deb!
<Aussie_Pam> I'm outta here guys. Hoo Roo
<jena> thanks
<cak> (I'm gonna get off for a bit too--see you all later)
<LuniLadi> nite cak
<beanjean1> bye cak
<jaxstamper> thanks for a great class
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