<brenda> Log file opened at 6/22/02 8:53:59 PM

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<MysticMermaid> Wow, isn't this something? Keep 'em coming!

<LindaR> great pix on the website

<MysticMermaid> thanks, linda ... i took those myself

<brenda> babette fantastic samples

<MysticMermaid> well, you know ... we try

<MysticMermaid> OK ... LET'S BEGIN

<MysticMermaid> WELCOME TO THE CLASS ABOUT HOW TO RECYCLE YOUR FREEBIE CD'S

<LindaR> i love the image cube you used. it's on my workspace right now to use in the altered book i'm working on.

<MysticMermaid> THIS IS A TECHNIQUE I LEARNED FROM BEVERLY SEYMOUR WHILE SHE WAS DEMO'ING IN THE POSTMODERN DESIGNS BOOTH

<MysticMermaid> I LOVED IT SO MUCH

<MysticMermaid> Linda ME TOO ... THAT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE POSTMODERN DESIGN CUBES ...

<deb> babette

<deb> let's wait just a second

<deb> for the stragglers coming over from social hour

<MysticMermaid> YES ok ...

<christiesobsession> url?

<MysticMermaid> IWAITING

<deb> and do we have a URL

<deb> and they can begin loading it

<glitrbug> I love postmodern design. I spent almost all my money at their convention booth last summer

<MysticMermaid> OKEEDOKEE ... WAIT ... WAIT ...

<SCstamper> hi all

<Kanga> i love postmodern design too! awsome stamps!!!!!

<Rusty> are we hummng the theme from Jeopardy?

<glitrbug> And spinning in circles

<Rusty> cool

<cak> waiting--something we aren't very good at, eh?

anno waits quite well, thank you.

<SCstamper> before class starts i'd just like to say soemthing

<madkapkid> is there an url for what we are doing tonight?

<deb> we can probably get started now

<MysticMermaid> DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE THAT IS FROM SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES?

<anno> does mars count?

<phyl> i am from mars

<SCstamper> this is my first class here, so i am talking out of line, or something just tell me so

<phyl> lol anno

<oceanne> I cant believe I just got rid of all my old AOL discs

<anno> me and my long lost sister phyl..

<debbiesdiecuts> hello y'all

<SEIJRA> did i miss anything yet

<SCstamper> i have a 4 inch stack of cd's!!!

<anno> I have a 15yo who collects aol disks..

<anno> I will never run out!

<anno> rofl..

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<SCstamper> i'm a kelpoto for free cd's

<Somebunny> my 15 yr old collects them too

<oceanne> might as well collect cds from aol... they are free and they keep coming

<MysticMermaid> WELCOME EVERYBODY ... LET'S PLAY WITH THOSE OLD CD'S ... WE WILL MAKE FUN ART THAT WE CAN WEAR!

<Rusty> i have a stack about a foot high...use them to make necklaces

<MysticMermaid> OR THAT WE CAN ADD TO COLLAGE WORK - WHATEVER.

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<anno> aidan plans to paper his dorm room with 'em, and he's got a 3 year head start! Ok.. I'll hush now..

<MysticMermaid> FIRST WE WANT TO GET OUT ALL THE MATERIALS WE WILL NEED.

<Marion> Don't worry. They're free and around here they are in the grocery stores.

<debbiesdiecuts> oh...those are cool pins

<MysticMermaid> I ASSUME MOST OF YOU HAVE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE URL AND SEE THAT I'VE PUT A PICTURE OF ALL THE SUPPLIES YOU WILL NEED

<deb> I have

<SEIJRA> i am looking now

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<MysticMermaid> HEAT GUN - GOOD STURDY PLIARS - OLD CD - WORK SURFACE LIKE AN OLD MAGAZINE - KITCHEN SHEARS OR STURDY SCISSORS

<Somebunny> great pics and instructions there

<SCstamper> i am looking now, but i've done cd's before, so i'll be good

<SEIJRA> thanks brenda

<MysticMermaid> WATERPROOF DYE INK LIKE ANCIENT PAGE - EMBOSSING POWDER (I LIKE GOLD) A RUBBER STAMP OF AN IMAGE YOU LIKE (I PREFER FACES OR FISH)

<MysticMermaid> FISH BECAUSE OF OBVIOUS REASONS !!! LOL

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<cak> lol

<MysticMermaid> AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO ADD A JUMP RING WITH BEADS YOU WILL NEED AN AWL OR AN ICE PICK

<MysticMermaid> READY? HERE WE GO .......

<Cher> a Dremel or drill work well too for the hole

<MysticMermaid> WARM YOUR CD WITH YOUR HEAT GUN WAVE IT OVER THE CD WHERE YOU WILL BE CUTTING

<MysticMermaid> I USUALLY GO BY THE SIZE OF PIN (OR PIECE OF ART I'M MAKING) AND THE IMAGE i'M USING

<MysticMermaid> THEN SLOWLY ... SLOWLY ... SLOWLY ... CUT IT

MysticMermaid> I SAID THIS 3 TIMES TO EMPHASIZE THAT SO YOU WILL NOT GET SPLINTERS IN YOUR CUT

<SEIJRA> or does it have to be clear on both sides

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL FIND THAT SOME CDs WILL SPLINTER WHERE OTHERS DON'T.

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<phyl> wb phyllis

<MysticMermaid> Seijra - IT DOES NEED TO BE CLEAR ON AT LEAST ONE SIDE.

<phyl> what do you use to cut them?

<SEIJRA> can we use the free aol cds or does it have to be clear on both sides

<mj> the silver stuff usually flakes off for me when I heat cd...is that ok?

<MysticMermaid> NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR CD SHARD CUT ...

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL USE YOUR KITCHEN SHEARS OR STURDY SCISSORS, Phyl

<SEIJRA> ok cool thanks babette

<phyl> thanks

<MysticMermaid> mj DON'T HEAT IT TOO LONG

<phyllis> do you heat the clear or other side- dsorry I was disconnected. Did you cover that?

<mj> k - thx

<MysticMermaid> BY THE WAY ... HERE ARE TWO INTERESTING THINGS TO NOTE

<MysticMermaid> 1) THE CD-R MEANS WRITEABLE AND THEY ARE USUALLY SILVER

<MysticMermaid> AND THE CD-RW MEANS THEY ARE RE-WRITEABLE ... COSTS MORE ... AND THEY HAVE A GREAT BLUE TINT TO THE BACKSIDE

<phyl> and cost a years salary to boot

<MysticMermaid> 2) IF YOU WANT AN INTERESTING LOOK ... TAKE PACKAGE SEALING TAPE - YOU KNOW THE KIND THAT IS ABOUT 2" WIDE

<MysticMermaid> AND THEN STICK IT TO THE BACK OF THE CD WHERE THE ADVERTISING IS AND YOU CAN JERK OFF SOME OF THE

<anno> sometimes the advertising is really cool, though...

<MysticMermaid> ADVERTISING. WHERE YOU PULLED OFF THE ADVERTISING YOU WILL SEE A TOTALLY CLEAR PLACE

<anno> depending on the ad campaigne..

<MysticMermaid> KINDA WILD

<flyingfish> I use a palm sander and sand em

<anno> campaign..

<cak> cool

<MysticMermaid> OK ... NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS CD THAT HAS BEEN CUT TO SIZE ... WE HAVE ANOTHER PLACE TO CUT.

<brenda> TO EMPHASIZE THAT SO YOU WILL

<brenda> NOT GET SPLINTERS IN YOUR CUT

<SCstamper> is that how you got the neat different look on the samples at the bottom of the page? the tape trick?

anno will be glad when this gizmo gets spellcheck..

<phyl> lol

<phyllis> Are we stamping on the silver side or the ad side?

<MysticMermaid> WE WILL NEED TO CUT THE CENTER OUT

<brenda> ty

<phyl> how do you cut out a hole?

<MysticMermaid> SO WARM IT IF YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO ... I OFTEN DON'T SINCE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO SPLINTER HERE

<MysticMermaid> WHEN YOU HAVE THE CD CUT AS A SLICE OF PIE

<cak> why do you cut out the center--is it thicker than the rest?

<MysticMermaid> THEN YOU WILL HAVE A PLACE NEAR THE POINT OF THE 'PIE' THAT IS CLEAR. CUT THIS OFF.

<Froggie> Phyllis, I think the silver side

<MysticMermaid> YOU CUT OUT THE CENTER 'CAUSE IT IS UGLY

<phyl> lol got it

<phyllis> k

<cak> lol--good enough reason

<phyl> good explanation

<MysticMermaid> OK ... LET ME STOP AND SEE IF I HAVE GOTTEN ANY QUESTIONS ...

<MysticMermaid> DID I MAKE MYSELF TOO CONFUSING

<phyl> what is the thing about the splinters?

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<MysticMermaid> SO WE HAVE THIS CUT CD WITH THE CLEAR STUFF DISCARDED NEAR THE MIDDLE

<cak> not to me--seems very clear, heat, cut out the ugly parts

<MysticMermaid> phyl YOU WILL GET SPLINTERS AS YOU CUT THE SILVER PART OF THE CD IF YOU DON'T HEAT UP THE CD FIRST OR IF YOU CUT TOO FAST

<MysticMermaid> TRY ONE YOU WILL SEE

<phyl> ok i got it thanks

<MysticMermaid> ALSO - SOME CD'S SPLINTER WHERE OTHERS DON'T ... GO FIGURE

<phyl> cheap grade

<MysticMermaid> NOW WE WILL GET OUR STAMP AND INK IT UP AND STAMP IT ON THE SHARD

<MysticMermaid> GIVE IT TIME TO DRY OR HELP IT ALONG WITH YOUR HEAT GUN BY WAVING IT OVER THE WET IMAGE UNTIL IT IS DRY

<MysticMermaid> THIS PART IS TRICKY FOR ME ...

<MysticMermaid> I'M SURE YOU ALL WILL DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME

<phyl> ha ha ha ha

<phyllis> LOL

<brenda> yeah right

<brenda> i never do anything roight first time

<MysticMermaid> TAKE THE CD AND PUT IT IN THE STURDY PLIARS IN YOUR **LEFT** HAND

<phyl> i never do anything right

<cak> oh yeah (but I'll mess up every other attempt after the first)

<MysticMermaid> OK - YOU LEFT-HANDERS, YOU KNOW YOU GOTTA REVERSE WHAT I'M EXPLAINING TO YOU.

<phyllis> after it's stamped?

<cak> we do

<MysticMermaid> TAKE YOUR HEAT GUN IN THE RIGHT HAND

<MysticMermaid> YES ... phyllis ... AFTER IT IS STAMPED AND DRY

<MysticMermaid> HOLD THE CD TIGHTLY AND BEAR DOWN ON IT - GENTLY WHILE HEATING THE BOTTOM PART OF THE CD WITH YOUR HEAT GUN

<Susie> which side do we stamp on?

<MysticMermaid> SOMETIMES I GET SO CLOSE WITH MY HEAT GUN THAT I ALMOST BURN MY NEWSPRINT PAD

<phyl> excuse me?

<MysticMermaid> WHAT phyl?

<Burningrubber> the shiny side

<phyl> bear down on it? with what?

<phyl> i am lost here

<MysticMermaid> THE CD HAS AN ADVERTISING SIDE WHICH IS THE COLORED SIDE ... AND THE OTHER SIDE IS REALLY CLEAR PLASTIC BUT LOOKS SILVER

<phyllis> push on the cd as it's heating to melt it?

<MysticMermaid> AS THE BACKSIDE OF THE ADVERTISING IS SHOWING THROUGH THE CLEAR PLASTIC.

<phyl> are you trying to bend it or what?

<MysticMermaid> YOU MAY NEED TO SCRATCH ONE TO SEE THIS ... OR PULL SOME OF IT UP WITH TAPE SO YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN.

<MysticMermaid> ANYWAY ... YOU HAVE STAMPED ON THE CLEAR SIDE ... SHOWS SILVER THROUGH THE CLEAR PLASTIC

<MysticMermaid> WE ARE HOLDING THE CD WITH PLIARS IN THE LEFT HAND AND HEAT GUN IN THE RIGHT HAND

<Susie> Ok, is obvious. Found a CD. Although this AOL CD has areas on the "ad" side that are an awesome gold, no writing!

<MysticMermaid> WE WILL BEAR DOWN ON THE CD ON OUR NEWSPRINT PAD

<MysticMermaid> YES ... WE ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TO BEND THE CDs SIDE.

<phyl> ok got it thanks

<cak> dimensional CDs!

<MysticMermaid> PLEASE SEE THE EXAMPLES ON THE WEBPAGE - PERHAPS THAT WILL EXPLAIN IT WHEN YOU SEE IT.

<phyl> k

<Susie> OK, I looked at the final image, you are curling the edges up. COOL!

<phyllis> So the edgeds curl?

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<MysticMermaid> AS YOU HEAT THE PLASTIC THE EDGE STARTS TO CURL

<Susie> Look at the finished one.

<beanjean1> thanks

<MysticMermaid> THE MORE YOU HEAT, THE EASIER IT IS TO BEND ...

<cak> MM, does it always curl to the front (or back)?

<MysticMermaid> SO YOU BEAR DOWN JUST LONG ENOUGH TO START THE BENDING.

<debbiesdiecuts> that is just too cool babette

<MysticMermaid> cak IT CURLS TO THE BACK MOSTLY. BUT I FINAGLE IT AND MAKE IT GO BOTH WAYS.

<MysticMermaid> THANKS, DEBBIE

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<cak> thanks

<MysticMermaid> IF YOU ARE REAL CAREFUL YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THE PART IN THE MIDDLE BEND AS WELL.

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<debbiesdiecuts> can you punch holes with a hole punch...like the pliers type

<MysticMermaid> THAT WAY WHEN YOU SEE YOUR IMAGE ON THE INSIDE THE IT WILL HAVE A RAINBOW EFFECT WHEN THE LIGHT HITS IT JUST RIGHT.

<MysticMermaid> WE WILL GET TO THE HOLE IN A MINUTE DEBBIE.

<debbiesdiecuts> k

<cak> I love that unpredictability of color!

<MysticMermaid> NOW THAT YOU HAVE A BEND ON *ONE* SIDE ... CAREFULLY DIP IT INTO THE GOLD EPOWDER

<MysticMermaid> NOW I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE SENSE 'NUF TO PUT YOUR EMBOSSING POWDER IN A CONTAINER THAT YOU CAN DIP SOMETHING INTO

<phyl> i do?

<cak> lol (we're glad you told us though)

<MysticMermaid> AND I'M ALSO ASSUMING THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE WORKED WITH A HEAT GUN AND REALIZE THAT IT BLOWS HOT AIR

<phyllis> and turned off the heat gun

<phyl> like dh

<MysticMermaid> SO IF YOU DON'T WATCH OUT ... YOUR HOT AIR WILL BLOW THE EMBOSSING POWDER ALL OVER YOUR TABLE

<phyllis> Do you use fine, regular or UTEE

<MysticMermaid> ASK ME HOW I KNOW THAT ... NO, DON'T ASK ... LOL

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<cak> lol

<MysticMermaid> SO, YOU HAVE BUCKLED ONE EDGE. YOU HAVE 3 MORE TO GO

<Seesa> We want all the gory details!

<phyl> lol

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL SEE THAT YOUR DARN PLIARS LEAVES TRACKS IN THE SIDE ... you guys are funny ... AND WE DON'T

<MysticMermaid> LIKE THAT

<debbiesdiecuts> so you are just dipping the edges in the gold ep

<MysticMermaid> THE PLIAR TRACKS I MEAN

<phyl> are they like tire tracks?

<MysticMermaid> YES ... BTW, HOW DO YOU SPELL PIARS? I DUNNO

<Susie> pliers

<debbiesdiecuts> pliers

<Seesa> pliars

<MysticMermaid> THANKS ... I NEVER SAID I COULD SPELL

<Seesa> ok so i cant speel either

<debbiesdiecuts> my pliers stay on my stamping table

<phyllis> who needs to spell when you can stamp?

<phyl> right

<MysticMermaid> ANYHOO WE HAVE THESE GREAT BUCKLED EDGES AND HOPEFULLY A KINDA BUCKLED INSIDE AS WELL

<Susie> yeah, we just need to get your a stamp that says "pliers" LOL!

<phyl> lol

<MysticMermaid> YOU CAN SIMPLY GET THE P L I E R MARKS OUT WITH A LITTLE HEAT FROM OUR HEAT GUN

<debbiesdiecuts> do i only dip the edges of the piece in the gold ep...each time

<MysticMermaid> IT TAKES THE E POWDER AND MELTS IT OVER THE TRACKS

<phyl> and it sticks to the cd?

<oceanne> you can buy toothless pliers from jewelry making suppliers

<MysticMermaid> YES, debbie, YOU WILL DIP AND THE HEAT FROM THE CD MELTS IT

<phyllis> any particular type of Ep? UTEE?

<oceanne> mine is bumpy all over

<debbiesdiecuts> ty

<MysticMermaid> oceanne YES I KNOW YOU CAN GET TOOTHLESS PLIERS, BUT YOU NEED THE TEETH THINGS TO HOLD THE THING

<MysticMermaid> WHILE YOU BEAR DOWN ON IT

<phyl> get some dentures for your pliers

<Susie> if you are melting. you will probably get marks anyway.

<MysticMermaid> YOU CAN ALSO WRAP THE TEETH IN MASKING TAPE, BUT I FIND I NEED THE TEETH TO HOLD ON TO THE CD

<SCstamper> i sell round nose pliers (leaves no tracks)

<oceanne> oh ok

<cak> I bet if you use UTEE, it might make a nice water-droppy effect?

<MysticMermaid> THE E POWDER MELTS OUT THE BAD PLACES.

<starofhearts> Is there a URL?

<MysticMermaid> BEWARE ...

<Susie> rounds don't grip well. Good for shaping, not griping.

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL PROBABLY DIP TOO DEEP INTO THE POWDER AND

<phyl> oh beware

<MysticMermaid> COVER UP YOUR IMAGE

<MysticMermaid> BEWARE

<phyllis> no, no

<phyl> yup probably

<MysticMermaid> YOU ONLY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF DEPTH ... WATCH OUT...

<cak> I bet you're not going to tell how you know that either

<phyl> lol

<MysticMermaid> NOW YOU GUYS ... YOU CAN LEARN FROM MY MISTAKES !!!

<phyl> this is good

<Susie> that's why we are here. LOL

<debbiesdiecuts> i gotta try this really soon...this is intriging me

<phyl> you make them i will learn

<MysticMermaid> I LIKE TO ADD THE BEAD THING ON MY WORK

<cak> we're just glad you're willing to make 'em first!

<MysticMermaid> SO I HAVE A HANDY-DANDY THING THAT I THINK IS AN AWL

<phyl> there ya go

<LindaR> that way we can invent new mistakes to make ourselves

<oceanne> argh... dont try to pick it up right away

<MysticMermaid> SO WHILE IT IS HOT ... I TAKE THE AWL AND POKE A HOLE RIGHT WHERE I WANT IT.

<MysticMermaid> TRY NOT TO GET TOO CLOSE TO THE EDGE AS IT WILL SPLIT.

<phyl> just poke or hammer?

<debbiesdiecuts> i dont have an awl

<phyl> ice pick?

<debbiesdiecuts> but have hole punch i use with leather

<MysticMermaid> BUT YOU GOT TO GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO HAVE AN O RING THAT WON'T BE HUGE EITHER.

<stampink> So you don't put anything over the image itself?

<debbiesdiecuts> no ice pick either

<phyl> nail?

<MysticMermaid> NO stampink YOU DON'T NEED A THING OVER THE IMAGE

<debbiesdiecuts> 16 penny nails...

<phyl> hammer that sucker

<MysticMermaid> YES ... A NAIL WILL WORK

<Susie> Yeah, I made that mistake with shrink, hole to far away. I had to make oval jumprings.

<MysticMermaid> HAMMER IT ...YES

<SCstamper> it's called a jump ring (incase you want to buy some)

<MysticMermaid> YOU WONT NEED A VERY LARGE HOLE.

<MysticMermaid> OK ... JUMP RING ... YOU ARE RIGHT.

<flyingfish> make your own jump rings

<debbiesdiecuts> would a screwpunch make the hole

<MysticMermaid> YOU GUYS ARE TOO SMART FOR ME... I JUST GRAB 'EM AND USE EM

<Susie> you can make 'em out of wire VERY easily.

<phyl> lol

<MysticMermaid> NO ... NO SCREWPUNCH

<debbiesdiecuts> ok...just asked...gee

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL RUIN YOUR EXPENSIVE SCREWPUNCH.

<phyl> oh oh

<flyingfish> twist wire around pencil and nip off the "rings" with a nail clipper

<debbiesdiecuts> oh well...then i won't be using that tool

<phyl> very good fish

<phyllis> what's a screw punch? Something I don't have??

<phyl> it punches screws

<debbiesdiecuts> i will try my leather punch just for the heck of it

<phyl> lol

<MysticMermaid> TRY HEATING THE CD A WHOLE LOT IN ONE PLACE ... SEE WHAT HAPPENS ...

<Susie> I form them around my round nose plier. Small ones you can do on a knitting needle.

<phyl> that is an awl debie

<debbiesdiecuts> if it don't work...I gotta find me an awl

<madkapkid> I am beginning to think I am TOOL impaired!!!

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL GET BUBBLES ... YES, THEY ARE WAY COOL!

<mj> hardware stores have plenty of awls

<Seesa> Madkap me too I need a trip through my brothers toolchest in the garage ;)

<debbiesdiecuts> its a punch that works like a screwdriver kinda

<phyl> the cd itself bubbles?

<madkapkid> :)

<Susie> They are 3-4 dollars. (awls)

<MysticMermaid> AS A MERMAID / FISH LOVER I'M INTREGUED (SP?) WITH THAT.

<Teri> Do hte bubbles have a hologram look?

<MysticMermaid> YES, THE CD WILL GET TINY BUBBLES

<oceanne> I used my leather punch and it works fine

<phyl> cool

<MysticMermaid> NO .. UNFORTUNATELY THE HALOGRAM LOOK IS ONLY FOR THE SILVER PART

<debbiesdiecuts> thanks oceanne

<Teri> darn'

<phyllis> a punch that works like a screwdriver//

<MysticMermaid> ONE OF THE CD'S ON THE WEBPAGE - THE LAST PART - HAS BUBBLES AT THE BOTTOM ... LOOK REAL CLOSE THEY ARE THERE..

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<phyl> and i assume that the silver part wont heat?

<MysticMermaid> ALSO TRY EXPERIMENTING WITH YOUR EMBOSSING POWDER COLORS ... YOU COULD DO SOME FUN THINGS

<MysticMermaid> GUESS THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR ME ... ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

<mj> thx

<Somebunny> thanks for a good class

<phyl> good class

<glitrbug> You could do the Microwave thing to them first for texture

<madkapkid> DO you like to use detail/reg/or UTEE EP best?

<flyingfish> thanks for the fun!

<cak> these are just sooo interesting MM

<Seesa> Thanks Mystic a wonderful class now I know what to do with the coasters I make ;)

<phyllis> can you expand on the cool things with ep colors?

<Susie> The face cube is really cool.

<no-vicki> yes, who sells those cute hand charms?

<Teri> Thanks Babette

<Cher> very nice samples, directions and class! thank you!

<phyl> can you dip them in hot water instead of heating them?

<debbiesdiecuts> this was a wonderful class babette...very informative...thank you

<phyllis> You can put them in a microwave?

<MysticMermaid> I HAVE NEVER TRIED MICROWAVING THE CD, BUT I HAVE A FRIEND WHO DID AND IT SENT SPARKS ALL OVER THE INSIDE OF THE MICROWAVE. SHE SAID SHE WOULD NEVER DO THAT AGAIN.

<oceanne> I love my project!!!! how cool. Thanks Mystic~

<beanjean1> very good class babette!!!

<phyl> oh gosh

<SCstamper> can't toast them either

<keribou> and it makes fumes

<Seesa> Oh no never micorwave the cd, the film on it it like putting a metal fork in

<phyl> hot water?

<MysticMermaid> madkapkid - I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS WHETHER THE EMP PWDR IS DETAIL OR UTEE OR REGULAR

<phyllis> what about the different ep colors?

<MysticMermaid> WHAT I MEANT BY THE THE DIFFERENT COLORS IS

<stampink> Your samples look shiny in the middle. Is that just from the silver background

<Marion> If anyone cares to bother, I was told that ats of acrylic paint on the addvertising side will keep them from splintering.

<glitrbug> I used my Ex-husband's MW and it was grat fun. You just do it until you get sparks

<madkapkid> Thankyou...

<SCstamper> the cd things i make i sand the color (silver) off, and they are clear, you can microwave those so i have read

<cak> interesting Marion--sounds like a good way to get good results from the splintery ones

<MysticMermaid> PERHAPS YOU WOULD DO ORANGE AND SPARKLE WITH BLACK FOR HALLOWEEN .... MOSTLY YOU WOULD HAVE

<MysticMermaid> DIFFERENT EDGES

<MysticMermaid> OR YOU COULD DO SILVER INSTEAD OF GOLD

<phyl> yo mermaid

<MysticMermaid> TRY COPPER AND COORDINATE WITH THE COLORS OF BEADS YOU ARE USING

<madkapkid> super ideas

<manybooks> thanks - great class and beautiful samples!

<MysticMermaid> I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE I GOT THE HAND BEAD ... I WAS IN SANTA FE NEW MEXICO AT A BEAD SHOW

<MysticMermaid> BET I GOT THEM THERE.\

<phyllis> Marion, can you heat the CD after it's acrylic painted?

<stampink> Could you do clear over the whole thing and then gold on edges?

<SCstamper> phylis ndon't try that!!!

<Marion> Sorry, my computer is doing strange things. It is 2 coats of acrylic paint will keep the CD from splintering

<SCstamper> the paint bubble, and pulls from the cd

<phyl> question

<Froolap> Thanks deb. I was gonna do that but you beat me to it.

<SCstamper> then you can hardly see your image, and it looks BAD!!!

<Teri> You could get clock works and make clocks!! Great Chrsitmas idea

<MysticMermaid> phyl ... HOT WATER WOULD WORK FINE

<MysticMermaid> BE A LOT OF WORK, BUT IF YOU ARE INTO THAT ... THE HEAT GUN IS SO MUCH EASIER AND FASTER SEEMS TO ME

<Marion> I haven't tried but I think so. I'll play.

<cak> I bet it's easier to control the bending with the heat gun too

<madkapkid> I would think it would be too...

<SCstamper> i like using the stove,

<glitrbug> I want to make some for Christmas ornaments to go with the clinkits

<Sparkee> Thanks. Bye.

<phyllis> What about using the tweezer marks as a design on the the CD?

<MysticMermaid> YOU REALLY NEED A LOT OF HEAT TO BEND THE EDGE

<SCstamper> i heat it until it starts melting, then shape it with my fingers,

<MysticMermaid> TWEEZER MARKS ON THE CD MIGHT BE FUN...

<Marion> Ok, I guess not. I haven't tried heating mine, just cutting out shapes.

<SCstamper> then use the exhaust fan to pull off extra heat, and doo it again

<Teri> So when you heat the edge of the cd, it is hot enought to melt the EP?

<MysticMermaid> WHEN YOU HEAT THE EDGE OF THE CD, THE CD IS REALLY REALLY HOT

<MysticMermaid> THE EP AUTOMATICALLY MELTS ... YES, YOU BET.

<Teri> Yippee

<MysticMermaid> SO HOT IT WILL HURT YOU IF YOU TOUCH IT

<phyllis> SCstamper, is it hot when you bend it with your fingers? Ouch

<cak> very efficient!

<MysticMermaid> WHEN YOU DO THIS, YOU WILL WANT TO HAVE THE KIDS NAPPING AND THE CATS OUT OF THE ROOM THAT'S FOR SURE

<Cher> thank you mystic!!

<MysticMermaid> YOU ARE WELCOME.

<cak> lol--maybe even husbands

<Teri> Come on AOL. Send more CD's!!!

<stubby> good class Babette

<SCstamper> the stove doesn't get it as hot as a heat gun, it is fairly touchable

<MysticMermaid> NOW, I EXPECT TO SEE EACH OF YOU WITH YOUR NEW PINS ON THE NEXT TIME WE MEET TOGETHER FOR CLASS, OK?

<stampink> Thanks alot

<cak> And, yes! Thank you so much (again) MysticMermaid

<MysticMermaid> THANKS, ANDY

<cak> We'll show them proudly

<beanjean1> thanks again babette

<Kanga> thank you for the class!

<stubby> you are so good at this, you oughtto do it for a living LOL

<glitrbug> Oh goodie! Are you doing another class? I am having the best time at yours

<no-vicki> babbette, great class, thank you

<Teri> Thanks

<cak> you always have the neatest things to try (and I'm so glad you're willing to share)

<Lory> thanks babette

<MysticMermaid> YOU ARE SO VERY KIND. I EAT THIS UP LIKE CANDY ...

<phyllis> I think we should make them and send them to AOL as a thank you for the freebies. Won't they be proud?

<MysticMermaid> MY HEAD IS SWELLING, DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET OUT OF THE DOOR

<LuniLadi> thanks for a great class...I'm inspired

<cak> you do know it's mutual, right?

<Teri> Sending MM cyber candy

<cak> LOL

<no-vicki> lol

<cak> (not the head swelling, the eating up part)

<phyllis> Thanks for the great class

<glitrbug> Yes, I really love the bending part

<Marion> I really enjoyed it Thanks. It was worth staying up past my bedtime.

<glitrbug> Makes them more dimentional

<Teri> Works out frustration, heat and bend

<keribou> thanks- nice class

<cak> I agree glitrbug

<cak> Lots more interesting that way

<MysticMermaid> I BELIEVE THE NEXT PLACE WE ALL NEED TO GO IS TO #CRAFTCLASS AND LEARN ABOUT CHAMOIS

<cak> You going to join us?

<brenda> mystic thanks for a fantastic class

<MysticMermaid> I EXPECT SO, CHARLOTTE

<MysticMermaid> BRENDA ... YOU'RE THE BEST! THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP.

<brenda> yw

<cak> good! then you can join the heckling part of the classroom (it's fun)

<brenda> any time

<MysticMermaid> MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS ON THE WEBSITE SHOULD ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS - SEND ME A NOTE!

<MysticMermaid> BUH-BYE

<cak> see you in #craftclass!

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<MysticMermaid> Wow, isn't this something? Keep 'em coming!

<LindaR> great pix on the website

<MysticMermaid> thanks, linda ... i took those myself

<brenda> babette fantastic samples

<MysticMermaid> well, you know ... we try

<MysticMermaid> OK ... LET'S BEGIN

<MysticMermaid> WELCOME TO THE CLASS ABOUT HOW TO RECYCLE YOUR FREEBIE CD'S

<LindaR> i love the image cube you used. it's on my workspace right now to use in the altered book i'm working on.

<MysticMermaid> THIS IS A TECHNIQUE I LEARNED FROM BEVERLY SEYMOUR WHILE SHE WAS DEMO'ING IN THE POSTMODERN DESIGNS BOOTH

<MysticMermaid> I LOVED IT SO MUCH

<MysticMermaid> Linda ME TOO ... THAT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE POSTMODERN DESIGN CUBES ...

<deb> babette

<deb> let's wait just a second

<deb> for the stragglers coming over from social hour

<MysticMermaid> YES ok ...

<christiesobsession> url?

<MysticMermaid> IWAITING

<deb> and do we have a URL

<deb> and they can begin loading it

<glitrbug> I love postmodern design. I spent almost all my money at their convention booth last summer

<MysticMermaid> OKEEDOKEE ... WAIT ... WAIT ...

<SCstamper> hi all

<Kanga> i love postmodern design too! awsome stamps!!!!!

<Rusty> are we hummng the theme from Jeopardy?

<glitrbug> And spinning in circles

<Rusty> cool

<cak> waiting--something we aren't very good at, eh?

anno waits quite well, thank you.

<SCstamper> before class starts i'd just like to say soemthing

<madkapkid> is there an url for what we are doing tonight?

<deb> we can probably get started now

<MysticMermaid> DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE THAT IS FROM SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES?

<anno> does mars count?

<phyl> i am from mars

<SCstamper> this is my first class here, so i am talking out of line, or something just tell me so

<phyl> lol anno

<oceanne> I cant believe I just got rid of all my old AOL discs

<anno> me and my long lost sister phyl..

<debbiesdiecuts> hello y'all

<SEIJRA> did i miss anything yet

<SCstamper> i have a 4 inch stack of cd's!!!

<anno> I have a 15yo who collects aol disks..

<anno> I will never run out!

<anno> rofl..

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<SCstamper> i'm a kelpoto for free cd's

<Somebunny> my 15 yr old collects them too

<oceanne> might as well collect cds from aol... they are free and they keep coming

<MysticMermaid> WELCOME EVERYBODY ... LET'S PLAY WITH THOSE OLD CD'S ... WE WILL MAKE FUN ART THAT WE CAN WEAR!

<Rusty> i have a stack about a foot high...use them to make necklaces

<MysticMermaid> OR THAT WE CAN ADD TO COLLAGE WORK - WHATEVER.

<deb> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<anno> aidan plans to paper his dorm room with 'em, and he's got a 3 year head start! Ok.. I'll hush now..

<MysticMermaid> FIRST WE WANT TO GET OUT ALL THE MATERIALS WE WILL NEED.

<Marion> Don't worry. They're free and around here they are in the grocery stores.

<debbiesdiecuts> oh...those are cool pins

<MysticMermaid> I ASSUME MOST OF YOU HAVE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE URL AND SEE THAT I'VE PUT A PICTURE OF ALL THE SUPPLIES YOU WILL NEED

<deb> I have

<SEIJRA> i am looking now

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<MysticMermaid> HEAT GUN - GOOD STURDY PLIARS - OLD CD - WORK SURFACE LIKE AN OLD MAGAZINE - KITCHEN SHEARS OR STURDY SCISSORS

<Somebunny> great pics and instructions there

<SCstamper> i am looking now, but i've done cd's before, so i'll be good

<SEIJRA> thanks brenda

<MysticMermaid> WATERPROOF DYE INK LIKE ANCIENT PAGE - EMBOSSING POWDER (I LIKE GOLD) A RUBBER STAMP OF AN IMAGE YOU LIKE (I PREFER FACES OR FISH)

<MysticMermaid> FISH BECAUSE OF OBVIOUS REASONS !!! LOL

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<cak> lol

<MysticMermaid> AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO ADD A JUMP RING WITH BEADS YOU WILL NEED AN AWL OR AN ICE PICK

<MysticMermaid> READY? HERE WE GO .......

<Cher> a Dremel or drill work well too for the hole

<MysticMermaid> WARM YOUR CD WITH YOUR HEAT GUN WAVE IT OVER THE CD WHERE YOU WILL BE CUTTING

<MysticMermaid> I USUALLY GO BY THE SIZE OF PIN (OR PIECE OF ART I'M MAKING) AND THE IMAGE i'M USING

<MysticMermaid> THEN SLOWLY ... SLOWLY ... SLOWLY ... CUT IT

MysticMermaid> I SAID THIS 3 TIMES TO EMPHASIZE THAT SO YOU WILL NOT GET SPLINTERS IN YOUR CUT

<SEIJRA> or does it have to be clear on both sides

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL FIND THAT SOME CDs WILL SPLINTER WHERE OTHERS DON'T.

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<phyl> wb phyllis

<MysticMermaid> Seijra - IT DOES NEED TO BE CLEAR ON AT LEAST ONE SIDE.

<phyl> what do you use to cut them?

<SEIJRA> can we use the free aol cds or does it have to be clear on both sides

<mj> the silver stuff usually flakes off for me when I heat cd...is that ok?

<MysticMermaid> NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR CD SHARD CUT ...

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL USE YOUR KITCHEN SHEARS OR STURDY SCISSORS, Phyl

<SEIJRA> ok cool thanks babette

<phyl> thanks

<MysticMermaid> mj DON'T HEAT IT TOO LONG

<phyllis> do you heat the clear or other side- dsorry I was disconnected. Did you cover that?

<mj> k - thx

<MysticMermaid> BY THE WAY ... HERE ARE TWO INTERESTING THINGS TO NOTE

<MysticMermaid> 1) THE CD-R MEANS WRITEABLE AND THEY ARE USUALLY SILVER

<MysticMermaid> AND THE CD-RW MEANS THEY ARE RE-WRITEABLE ... COSTS MORE ... AND THEY HAVE A GREAT BLUE TINT TO THE BACKSIDE

<phyl> and cost a years salary to boot

<MysticMermaid> 2) IF YOU WANT AN INTERESTING LOOK ... TAKE PACKAGE SEALING TAPE - YOU KNOW THE KIND THAT IS ABOUT 2" WIDE

<MysticMermaid> AND THEN STICK IT TO THE BACK OF THE CD WHERE THE ADVERTISING IS AND YOU CAN JERK OFF SOME OF THE

<anno> sometimes the advertising is really cool, though...

<MysticMermaid> ADVERTISING. WHERE YOU PULLED OFF THE ADVERTISING YOU WILL SEE A TOTALLY CLEAR PLACE

<anno> depending on the ad campaigne..

<MysticMermaid> KINDA WILD

<flyingfish> I use a palm sander and sand em

<anno> campaign..

<cak> cool

<MysticMermaid> OK ... NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS CD THAT HAS BEEN CUT TO SIZE ... WE HAVE ANOTHER PLACE TO CUT.

<brenda> TO EMPHASIZE THAT SO YOU WILL

<brenda> NOT GET SPLINTERS IN YOUR CUT

<SCstamper> is that how you got the neat different look on the samples at the bottom of the page? the tape trick?

anno will be glad when this gizmo gets spellcheck..

<phyl> lol

<phyllis> Are we stamping on the silver side or the ad side?

<MysticMermaid> WE WILL NEED TO CUT THE CENTER OUT

<brenda> ty

<phyl> how do you cut out a hole?

<MysticMermaid> SO WARM IT IF YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO ... I OFTEN DON'T SINCE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO SPLINTER HERE

<MysticMermaid> WHEN YOU HAVE THE CD CUT AS A SLICE OF PIE

<cak> why do you cut out the center--is it thicker than the rest?

<MysticMermaid> THEN YOU WILL HAVE A PLACE NEAR THE POINT OF THE 'PIE' THAT IS CLEAR. CUT THIS OFF.

<Froggie> Phyllis, I think the silver side

<MysticMermaid> YOU CUT OUT THE CENTER 'CAUSE IT IS UGLY

<phyl> lol got it

<phyllis> k

<cak> lol--good enough reason

<phyl> good explanation

<MysticMermaid> OK ... LET ME STOP AND SEE IF I HAVE GOTTEN ANY QUESTIONS ...

<MysticMermaid> DID I MAKE MYSELF TOO CONFUSING

<phyl> what is the thing about the splinters?

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<MysticMermaid> SO WE HAVE THIS CUT CD WITH THE CLEAR STUFF DISCARDED NEAR THE MIDDLE

<cak> not to me--seems very clear, heat, cut out the ugly parts

<MysticMermaid> phyl YOU WILL GET SPLINTERS AS YOU CUT THE SILVER PART OF THE CD IF YOU DON'T HEAT UP THE CD FIRST OR IF YOU CUT TOO FAST

<MysticMermaid> TRY ONE YOU WILL SEE

<phyl> ok i got it thanks

<MysticMermaid> ALSO - SOME CD'S SPLINTER WHERE OTHERS DON'T ... GO FIGURE

<phyl> cheap grade

<MysticMermaid> NOW WE WILL GET OUR STAMP AND INK IT UP AND STAMP IT ON THE SHARD

<MysticMermaid> GIVE IT TIME TO DRY OR HELP IT ALONG WITH YOUR HEAT GUN BY WAVING IT OVER THE WET IMAGE UNTIL IT IS DRY

<MysticMermaid> THIS PART IS TRICKY FOR ME ...

<MysticMermaid> I'M SURE YOU ALL WILL DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME

<phyl> ha ha ha ha

<phyllis> LOL

<brenda> yeah right

<brenda> i never do anything roight first time

<MysticMermaid> TAKE THE CD AND PUT IT IN THE STURDY PLIARS IN YOUR **LEFT** HAND

<phyl> i never do anything right

<cak> oh yeah (but I'll mess up every other attempt after the first)

<MysticMermaid> OK - YOU LEFT-HANDERS, YOU KNOW YOU GOTTA REVERSE WHAT I'M EXPLAINING TO YOU.

<phyllis> after it's stamped?

<cak> we do

<MysticMermaid> TAKE YOUR HEAT GUN IN THE RIGHT HAND

<MysticMermaid> YES ... phyllis ... AFTER IT IS STAMPED AND DRY

<MysticMermaid> HOLD THE CD TIGHTLY AND BEAR DOWN ON IT - GENTLY WHILE HEATING THE BOTTOM PART OF THE CD WITH YOUR HEAT GUN

<Susie> which side do we stamp on?

<MysticMermaid> SOMETIMES I GET SO CLOSE WITH MY HEAT GUN THAT I ALMOST BURN MY NEWSPRINT PAD

<phyl> excuse me?

<MysticMermaid> WHAT phyl?

<Burningrubber> the shiny side

<phyl> bear down on it? with what?

<phyl> i am lost here

<MysticMermaid> THE CD HAS AN ADVERTISING SIDE WHICH IS THE COLORED SIDE ... AND THE OTHER SIDE IS REALLY CLEAR PLASTIC BUT LOOKS SILVER

<phyllis> push on the cd as it's heating to melt it?

<MysticMermaid> AS THE BACKSIDE OF THE ADVERTISING IS SHOWING THROUGH THE CLEAR PLASTIC.

<phyl> are you trying to bend it or what?

<MysticMermaid> YOU MAY NEED TO SCRATCH ONE TO SEE THIS ... OR PULL SOME OF IT UP WITH TAPE SO YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN.

<MysticMermaid> ANYWAY ... YOU HAVE STAMPED ON THE CLEAR SIDE ... SHOWS SILVER THROUGH THE CLEAR PLASTIC

<MysticMermaid> WE ARE HOLDING THE CD WITH PLIARS IN THE LEFT HAND AND HEAT GUN IN THE RIGHT HAND

<Susie> Ok, is obvious. Found a CD. Although this AOL CD has areas on the "ad" side that are an awesome gold, no writing!

<MysticMermaid> WE WILL BEAR DOWN ON THE CD ON OUR NEWSPRINT PAD

<MysticMermaid> YES ... WE ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TO BEND THE CDs SIDE.

<phyl> ok got it thanks

<cak> dimensional CDs!

<MysticMermaid> PLEASE SEE THE EXAMPLES ON THE WEBPAGE - PERHAPS THAT WILL EXPLAIN IT WHEN YOU SEE IT.

<phyl> k

<Susie> OK, I looked at the final image, you are curling the edges up. COOL!

<phyllis> So the edgeds curl?

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<MysticMermaid> AS YOU HEAT THE PLASTIC THE EDGE STARTS TO CURL

<Susie> Look at the finished one.

<beanjean1> thanks

<MysticMermaid> THE MORE YOU HEAT, THE EASIER IT IS TO BEND ...

<cak> MM, does it always curl to the front (or back)?

<MysticMermaid> SO YOU BEAR DOWN JUST LONG ENOUGH TO START THE BENDING.

<debbiesdiecuts> that is just too cool babette

<MysticMermaid> cak IT CURLS TO THE BACK MOSTLY. BUT I FINAGLE IT AND MAKE IT GO BOTH WAYS.

<MysticMermaid> THANKS, DEBBIE

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<cak> thanks

<MysticMermaid> IF YOU ARE REAL CAREFUL YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THE PART IN THE MIDDLE BEND AS WELL.

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<debbiesdiecuts> can you punch holes with a hole punch...like the pliers type

<MysticMermaid> THAT WAY WHEN YOU SEE YOUR IMAGE ON THE INSIDE THE IT WILL HAVE A RAINBOW EFFECT WHEN THE LIGHT HITS IT JUST RIGHT.

<MysticMermaid> WE WILL GET TO THE HOLE IN A MINUTE DEBBIE.

<debbiesdiecuts> k

<cak> I love that unpredictability of color!

<MysticMermaid> NOW THAT YOU HAVE A BEND ON *ONE* SIDE ... CAREFULLY DIP IT INTO THE GOLD EPOWDER

<MysticMermaid> NOW I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE SENSE 'NUF TO PUT YOUR EMBOSSING POWDER IN A CONTAINER THAT YOU CAN DIP SOMETHING INTO

<phyl> i do?

<cak> lol (we're glad you told us though)

<MysticMermaid> AND I'M ALSO ASSUMING THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE WORKED WITH A HEAT GUN AND REALIZE THAT IT BLOWS HOT AIR

<phyllis> and turned off the heat gun

<phyl> like dh

<MysticMermaid> SO IF YOU DON'T WATCH OUT ... YOUR HOT AIR WILL BLOW THE EMBOSSING POWDER ALL OVER YOUR TABLE

<phyllis> Do you use fine, regular or UTEE

<MysticMermaid> ASK ME HOW I KNOW THAT ... NO, DON'T ASK ... LOL

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<cak> lol

<MysticMermaid> SO, YOU HAVE BUCKLED ONE EDGE. YOU HAVE 3 MORE TO GO

<Seesa> We want all the gory details!

<phyl> lol

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL SEE THAT YOUR DARN PLIARS LEAVES TRACKS IN THE SIDE ... you guys are funny ... AND WE DON'T

<MysticMermaid> LIKE THAT

<debbiesdiecuts> so you are just dipping the edges in the gold ep

<MysticMermaid> THE PLIAR TRACKS I MEAN

<phyl> are they like tire tracks?

<MysticMermaid> YES ... BTW, HOW DO YOU SPELL PIARS? I DUNNO

<Susie> pliers

<debbiesdiecuts> pliers

<Seesa> pliars

<MysticMermaid> THANKS ... I NEVER SAID I COULD SPELL

<Seesa> ok so i cant speel either

<debbiesdiecuts> my pliers stay on my stamping table

<phyllis> who needs to spell when you can stamp?

<phyl> right

<MysticMermaid> ANYHOO WE HAVE THESE GREAT BUCKLED EDGES AND HOPEFULLY A KINDA BUCKLED INSIDE AS WELL

<Susie> yeah, we just need to get your a stamp that says "pliers" LOL!

<phyl> lol

<MysticMermaid> YOU CAN SIMPLY GET THE P L I E R MARKS OUT WITH A LITTLE HEAT FROM OUR HEAT GUN

<debbiesdiecuts> do i only dip the edges of the piece in the gold ep...each time

<MysticMermaid> IT TAKES THE E POWDER AND MELTS IT OVER THE TRACKS

<phyl> and it sticks to the cd?

<oceanne> you can buy toothless pliers from jewelry making suppliers

<MysticMermaid> YES, debbie, YOU WILL DIP AND THE HEAT FROM THE CD MELTS IT

<phyllis> any particular type of Ep? UTEE?

<oceanne> mine is bumpy all over

<debbiesdiecuts> ty

<MysticMermaid> oceanne YES I KNOW YOU CAN GET TOOTHLESS PLIERS, BUT YOU NEED THE TEETH THINGS TO HOLD THE THING

<MysticMermaid> WHILE YOU BEAR DOWN ON IT

<phyl> get some dentures for your pliers

<Susie> if you are melting. you will probably get marks anyway.

<MysticMermaid> YOU CAN ALSO WRAP THE TEETH IN MASKING TAPE, BUT I FIND I NEED THE TEETH TO HOLD ON TO THE CD

<SCstamper> i sell round nose pliers (leaves no tracks)

<oceanne> oh ok

<cak> I bet if you use UTEE, it might make a nice water-droppy effect?

<MysticMermaid> THE E POWDER MELTS OUT THE BAD PLACES.

<starofhearts> Is there a URL?

<MysticMermaid> BEWARE ...

<Susie> rounds don't grip well. Good for shaping, not griping.

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL PROBABLY DIP TOO DEEP INTO THE POWDER AND

<phyl> oh beware

<MysticMermaid> COVER UP YOUR IMAGE

<MysticMermaid> BEWARE

<phyllis> no, no

<phyl> yup probably

<MysticMermaid> YOU ONLY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF DEPTH ... WATCH OUT...

<cak> I bet you're not going to tell how you know that either

<phyl> lol

<MysticMermaid> NOW YOU GUYS ... YOU CAN LEARN FROM MY MISTAKES !!!

<phyl> this is good

<Susie> that's why we are here. LOL

<debbiesdiecuts> i gotta try this really soon...this is intriging me

<phyl> you make them i will learn

<MysticMermaid> I LIKE TO ADD THE BEAD THING ON MY WORK

<cak> we're just glad you're willing to make 'em first!

<MysticMermaid> SO I HAVE A HANDY-DANDY THING THAT I THINK IS AN AWL

<phyl> there ya go

<LindaR> that way we can invent new mistakes to make ourselves

<oceanne> argh... dont try to pick it up right away

<MysticMermaid> SO WHILE IT IS HOT ... I TAKE THE AWL AND POKE A HOLE RIGHT WHERE I WANT IT.

<MysticMermaid> TRY NOT TO GET TOO CLOSE TO THE EDGE AS IT WILL SPLIT.

<phyl> just poke or hammer?

<debbiesdiecuts> i dont have an awl

<phyl> ice pick?

<debbiesdiecuts> but have hole punch i use with leather

<MysticMermaid> BUT YOU GOT TO GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO HAVE AN O RING THAT WON'T BE HUGE EITHER.

<stampink> So you don't put anything over the image itself?

<debbiesdiecuts> no ice pick either

<phyl> nail?

<MysticMermaid> NO stampink YOU DON'T NEED A THING OVER THE IMAGE

<debbiesdiecuts> 16 penny nails...

<phyl> hammer that sucker

<MysticMermaid> YES ... A NAIL WILL WORK

<Susie> Yeah, I made that mistake with shrink, hole to far away. I had to make oval jumprings.

<MysticMermaid> HAMMER IT ...YES

<SCstamper> it's called a jump ring (incase you want to buy some)

<MysticMermaid> YOU WONT NEED A VERY LARGE HOLE.

<MysticMermaid> OK ... JUMP RING ... YOU ARE RIGHT.

<flyingfish> make your own jump rings

<debbiesdiecuts> would a screwpunch make the hole

<MysticMermaid> YOU GUYS ARE TOO SMART FOR ME... I JUST GRAB 'EM AND USE EM

<Susie> you can make 'em out of wire VERY easily.

<phyl> lol

<MysticMermaid> NO ... NO SCREWPUNCH

<debbiesdiecuts> ok...just asked...gee

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL RUIN YOUR EXPENSIVE SCREWPUNCH.

<phyl> oh oh

<flyingfish> twist wire around pencil and nip off the "rings" with a nail clipper

<debbiesdiecuts> oh well...then i won't be using that tool

<phyl> very good fish

<phyllis> what's a screw punch? Something I don't have??

<phyl> it punches screws

<debbiesdiecuts> i will try my leather punch just for the heck of it

<phyl> lol

<MysticMermaid> TRY HEATING THE CD A WHOLE LOT IN ONE PLACE ... SEE WHAT HAPPENS ...

<Susie> I form them around my round nose plier. Small ones you can do on a knitting needle.

<phyl> that is an awl debie

<debbiesdiecuts> if it don't work...I gotta find me an awl

<madkapkid> I am beginning to think I am TOOL impaired!!!

<MysticMermaid> YOU WILL GET BUBBLES ... YES, THEY ARE WAY COOL!

<mj> hardware stores have plenty of awls

<Seesa> Madkap me too I need a trip through my brothers toolchest in the garage ;)

<debbiesdiecuts> its a punch that works like a screwdriver kinda

<phyl> the cd itself bubbles?

<madkapkid> :)

<Susie> They are 3-4 dollars. (awls)

<MysticMermaid> AS A MERMAID / FISH LOVER I'M INTREGUED (SP?) WITH THAT.

<Teri> Do hte bubbles have a hologram look?

<MysticMermaid> YES, THE CD WILL GET TINY BUBBLES

<oceanne> I used my leather punch and it works fine

<phyl> cool

<MysticMermaid> NO .. UNFORTUNATELY THE HALOGRAM LOOK IS ONLY FOR THE SILVER PART

<debbiesdiecuts> thanks oceanne

<Teri> darn'

<phyllis> a punch that works like a screwdriver//

<MysticMermaid> ONE OF THE CD'S ON THE WEBPAGE - THE LAST PART - HAS BUBBLES AT THE BOTTOM ... LOOK REAL CLOSE THEY ARE THERE..

<brenda> http://www.dm.net/~cak/cdfacepins.html

<phyl> and i assume that the silver part wont heat?

<MysticMermaid> ALSO TRY EXPERIMENTING WITH YOUR EMBOSSING POWDER COLORS ... YOU COULD DO SOME FUN THINGS

<MysticMermaid> GUESS THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR ME ... ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

<mj> thx

<Somebunny> thanks for a good class

<phyl> good class

<glitrbug> You could do the Microwave thing to them first for texture

<madkapkid> DO you like to use detail/reg/or UTEE EP best?

<flyingfish> thanks for the fun!

<cak> these are just sooo interesting MM

<Seesa> Thanks Mystic a wonderful class now I know what to do with the coasters I make ;)

<phyllis> can you expand on the cool things with ep colors?

<Susie> The face cube is really cool.

<no-vicki> yes, who sells those cute hand charms?

<Teri> Thanks Babette

<Cher> very nice samples, directions and class! thank you!

<phyl> can you dip them in hot water instead of heating them?

<debbiesdiecuts> this was a wonderful class babette...very informative...thank you

<phyllis> You can put them in a microwave?

<MysticMermaid> I HAVE NEVER TRIED MICROWAVING THE CD, BUT I HAVE A FRIEND WHO DID AND IT SENT SPARKS ALL OVER THE INSIDE OF THE MICROWAVE. SHE SAID SHE WOULD NEVER DO THAT AGAIN.

<oceanne> I love my project!!!! how cool. Thanks Mystic~

<beanjean1> very good class babette!!!

<phyl> oh gosh

<SCstamper> can't toast them either

<keribou> and it makes fumes

<Seesa> Oh no never micorwave the cd, the film on it it like putting a metal fork in

<phyl> hot water?

<MysticMermaid> madkapkid - I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS WHETHER THE EMP PWDR IS DETAIL OR UTEE OR REGULAR

<phyllis> what about the different ep colors?

<MysticMermaid> WHAT I MEANT BY THE THE DIFFERENT COLORS IS

<stampink> Your samples look shiny in the middle. Is that just from the silver background

<Marion> If anyone cares to bother, I was told that ats of acrylic paint on the addvertising side will keep them from splintering.

<glitrbug> I used my Ex-husband's MW and it was grat fun. You just do it until you get sparks

<madkapkid> Thankyou...

<SCstamper> the cd things i make i sand the color (silver) off, and they are clear, you can microwave those so i have read

<cak> interesting Marion--sounds like a good way to get good results from the splintery ones

<MysticMermaid> PERHAPS YOU WOULD DO ORANGE AND SPARKLE WITH BLACK FOR HALLOWEEN .... MOSTLY YOU WOULD HAVE

<MysticMermaid> DIFFERENT EDGES

<MysticMermaid> OR YOU COULD DO SILVER INSTEAD OF GOLD

<phyl> yo mermaid

<MysticMermaid> TRY COPPER AND COORDINATE WITH THE COLORS OF BEADS YOU ARE USING

<madkapkid> super ideas

<manybooks> thanks - great class and beautiful samples!

<MysticMermaid> I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE I GOT THE HAND BEAD ... I WAS IN SANTA FE NEW MEXICO AT A BEAD SHOW

<MysticMermaid> BET I GOT THEM THERE.\

<phyllis> Marion, can you heat the CD after it's acrylic painted?

<stampink> Could you do clear over the whole thing and then gold on edges?

<SCstamper> phylis ndon't try that!!!

<Marion> Sorry, my computer is doing strange things. It is 2 coats of acrylic paint will keep the CD from splintering

<SCstamper> the paint bubble, and pulls from the cd

<phyl> question

<Froolap> Thanks deb. I was gonna do that but you beat me to it.

<SCstamper> then you can hardly see your image, and it looks BAD!!!

<Teri> You could get clock works and make clocks!! Great Chrsitmas idea

<MysticMermaid> phyl ... HOT WATER WOULD WORK FINE

<MysticMermaid> BE A LOT OF WORK, BUT IF YOU ARE INTO THAT ... THE HEAT GUN IS SO MUCH EASIER AND FASTER SEEMS TO ME

<Marion> I haven't tried but I think so. I'll play.

<cak> I bet it's easier to control the bending with the heat gun too

<madkapkid> I would think it would be too...

<SCstamper> i like using the stove,

<glitrbug> I want to make some for Christmas ornaments to go with the clinkits

<Sparkee> Thanks. Bye.

<phyllis> What about using the tweezer marks as a design on the the CD?

<MysticMermaid> YOU REALLY NEED A LOT OF HEAT TO BEND THE EDGE

<SCstamper> i heat it until it starts melting, then shape it with my fingers,

<MysticMermaid> TWEEZER MARKS ON THE CD MIGHT BE FUN...

<Marion> Ok, I guess not. I haven't tried heating mine, just cutting out shapes.

<SCstamper> then use the exhaust fan to pull off extra heat, and doo it again

<Teri> So when you heat the edge of the cd, it is hot enought to melt the EP?

<MysticMermaid> WHEN YOU HEAT THE EDGE OF THE CD, THE CD IS REALLY REALLY HOT

<MysticMermaid> THE EP AUTOMATICALLY MELTS ... YES, YOU BET.

<Teri> Yippee

<MysticMermaid> SO HOT IT WILL HURT YOU IF YOU TOUCH IT

<phyllis> SCstamper, is it hot when you bend it with your fingers? Ouch

<cak> very efficient!

<MysticMermaid> WHEN YOU DO THIS, YOU WILL WANT TO HAVE THE KIDS NAPPING AND THE CATS OUT OF THE ROOM THAT'S FOR SURE

<Cher> thank you mystic!!

<MysticMermaid> YOU ARE WELCOME.

<cak> lol--maybe even husbands

<Teri> Come on AOL. Send more CD's!!!

<stubby> good class Babette

<SCstamper> the stove doesn't get it as hot as a heat gun, it is fairly touchable

<MysticMermaid> NOW, I EXPECT TO SEE EACH OF YOU WITH YOUR NEW PINS ON THE NEXT TIME WE MEET TOGETHER FOR CLASS, OK?

<stampink> Thanks alot

<cak> And, yes! Thank you so much (again) MysticMermaid

<MysticMermaid> THANKS, ANDY

<cak> We'll show them proudly

<beanjean1> thanks again babette

<Kanga> thank you for the class!

<stubby> you are so good at this, you oughtto do it for a living LOL

<glitrbug> Oh goodie! Are you doing another class? I am having the best time at yours

<no-vicki> babbette, great class, thank you

<Teri> Thanks

<cak> you always have the neatest things to try (and I'm so glad you're willing to share)

<Lory> thanks babette

<MysticMermaid> YOU ARE SO VERY KIND. I EAT THIS UP LIKE CANDY ...

<phyllis> I think we should make them and send them to AOL as a thank you for the freebies. Won't they be proud?

<MysticMermaid> MY HEAD IS SWELLING, DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET OUT OF THE DOOR

<LuniLadi> thanks for a great class...I'm inspired

<cak> you do know it's mutual, right?

<Teri> Sending MM cyber candy

<cak> LOL

<no-vicki> lol

<cak> (not the head swelling, the eating up part)

<phyllis> Thanks for the great class

<glitrbug> Yes, I really love the bending part

<Marion> I really enjoyed it Thanks. It was worth staying up past my bedtime.

<glitrbug> Makes them more dimentional

<Teri> Works out frustration, heat and bend

<keribou> thanks- nice class

<cak> I agree glitrbug

<cak> Lots more interesting that way

<MysticMermaid> I BELIEVE THE NEXT PLACE WE ALL NEED TO GO IS TO #CRAFTCLASS AND LEARN ABOUT CHAMOIS

<cak> You going to join us?

<brenda> mystic thanks for a fantastic class

<MysticMermaid> I EXPECT SO, CHARLOTTE

<MysticMermaid> BRENDA ... YOU'RE THE BEST! THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP.

<brenda> yw

<cak> good! then you can join the heckling part of the classroom (it's fun)

<brenda> any time

<MysticMermaid> MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS ON THE WEBSITE SHOULD ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS - SEND ME A NOTE!

<MysticMermaid> BUH-BYE

<cak> see you in #craftclass!

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