Log file opened at 6/22/02 9:53:14 PM

<Kanga> what is chamois?

<SCstamper> so i don't wanna sound stupid, but who leads this coming class?

<Lory> car wash material thingie

<debbiesdiecuts> redstick

<SCstamper> kanga- chamois is a thin leather that can be found near car wash supplies

<debbiesdiecuts> she owns enchanted ink

<Kanga> ty

<SCstamper> i thought so!!!

<MysticMermaid> Redstick

<madkapkid> using chamois sounds interesting!!!

<MysticMermaid> Redstick's name is Candace ... shhsh ... don't tell!

<madkapkid> Thanks for the info :)

<Redstick> hehehehe.....that's ok...long as you don't call me the SHORT form! :)

<cak> lol

<SCstamper> redstick, i just wanted to tell you how much i love your images

<anno> me too!

<Redstick> Thank you, SCstamper!!

<cak> me too!

<SCstamper> now i just have to start buying some!!!

<Vyx> omg, look at all these people!

<Redstick> I'm kinda partial to em myself

<RubberRabbit> Hi Red!!

<beanjean1 three or four :-)

<MeeganBearRubber> Hello everyone!

<cak> lol

RubberRabbit hops over to hug her fave Redstick sis

<Redstick> Heya there Rabbitfriendofmine :)

<SCstamper> red, are you going to give hints for the answers to the social questions??

<Redstick> Heck no! LOL!!!

<Lory> i am already here

<SCstamper> blast

<cak> (nice try though SC)

<Redstick> It's already multiple choice :)

<anno> oh.. darn.. where are the social questions?

<SCstamper> it would have helped us all is she said yes

<Vyx> Do we got a class page?

<SCstamper> i already picked out my answers, for more answering speed

Lory was on time for both of her gurls events

<Redstick> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/games.htm

<Redstick> That's the social games...while we're waiting fer the room to fill up...

<Redstick> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<Redstick> and that's the class page

<SCstamper> is there a class url?

<SCstamper> thanks, ya mind reader you

<Redstick> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

Redstick is going to caps

<deb> k

Redstick LOVES GETTING TO YELL

<deb> lol

<deb> ok - conversations to a minumum

<Redstick> SOOOOOO........YA'LL LIKE TO WASH YER CAR?

<deb> private message is good

<anno> red!

<RubberRabbit> oh those are yummy red

<deb> no

<anno> do you have that rooster?

<deb> lol

<no-vicki> um...no

anno is switching from bees to roosters come august!!

<Redstick> SURE DO ANNO.....ALLA PICS ARE EI

<cak> umm, actually, no

<anno> I NEED that rooster!

<deb> those BAGS are darling

<anno> I NEED that rooster!

<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<Redstick> WELL.......I FOUND SUMTHIN BETTER TO DO WITH THE CHAMOIS THAN WASH THE CAR!!

<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<Redstick> YOU CAN *MARBLE* IT!!

<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<cak> really???!!!! I'm intrigued

<Cher> i love the drawstring bag...very nice!

<Redstick> EVEN THOUGH A HUNK OF CHAMOIS ISN'T DIRT CHEAP, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL YOU CAN GET OUT OF ONE.....IT'S A GOOD DEAL

<Redstick> I EVEN MADE A SHIRT WITH IT ONCE

<Redstick> SUPPLY LIST GOES LIKE THIS.....

<Teri> Love the examples

<Redstick> LOTSA NEWSPAPERS

<Redstick> A HUNK OF CHAMOIS

<Redstick> PAPER TOWELS

<Redstick> A SPRY BOTTLE OF WATER

<Redstick> AND (MAKE THAT SPRAY) SOME PIECES OF THE ART TISSUE THAT BLEEDS!

<Redstick> NEWSPAPER FIRST.....A GOOD THICK LAYER CAUSE THE CHAMOIS' GOING TO GET WET

<oceanne> I dont know what art tissue is

<Cher> tissue paper

<Redstick> SPECTRA TISSUE IS ONE BRAND

<debbiesdiecuts> spectra art tissue is one that bleeds

<oceanne> ok

<Redstick> YOU CAN GET IT IN A 20 COLOR ASSORTMENT AT MICHAEL'S - HOBBY LOBBY

<oceanne> thanks Redstick

<Redstick> LAY PAPER TOWEL DOWN ON THE NEWSPAPER SO THE PRINT DOESN'T GET ON THE LEATHER

<rabbitsmom> is there an url for the class ?

<brenda> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<Redstick> THEN *SATURATE* THE LEATHER WITH WATER

<rabbitsmom> ty

<Redstick> IF YOU ARE DOING THE WHOLE BIG PIECE, WORK IN SECTIONS

<Redstick> BUT IT NEEDS TO BE NICE AND WET

<cak> drippy wet or just really wet?

<cak> (like there's a difference)

<oceanne> can you use that deersueade? fake leather?

<Redstick> ANYWHERE THERE ARE FOLDS, ETC IN THE LEATHER....YOU CAN SMOOTH IT ALL OUT WITH YOUR HANDS/FINGERS WHILE THE LEATHER IS WET

<flyingfish> how about soaking and wringing

<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<beanjean1 needs to go raid dh's cleaning supplies

<Redstick> *ALMOST* DRIPPY WET

<cak> (so lotta water) thanks

<Redstick> IT WILL CHANGE COLOR AS YOU SPRAY IT......YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL CAUSE IT WILL GET DARK

<beanjean1> Red, can you do this with regular leather or suede?

<Redstick> I DON'T SEE WHY REGULAR SUEDE WOULDN'T WORK, BUT LEATHER HAS MORE OF A SMOOTH FINISH

<Redstick> AND PER SQUARE INCH, CHAMOIS IS CHEAPER

<beanjean1> oh, maybe it wouldn't absorb the water....

<deb> that's a plus!

<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<SCstamper> any none leather ideas?

<Redstick> DON'T WRING IT...LAY IT FLAT

<SusanR> where is the cheapest place to by chamois?

<SCstamper> of substitues?

<beanjean1> well I HAVE leather and suede on hand :-)

<beanjean1> ohoh

<Redstick> WALLYWORLD IS WHERE I GET MINE

<SusanR> ty...I like wallyworld!

<Redstick> AND SMOOTH OUT THE CREASES, ETC WITH YOUR HAND WHILE IT'S WET

<beanjean1> maybe I should have waited to ask that.....didn't mean to go off the subject

<debbiesdiecuts> if its unfinished leather it will take the dye...but treated leather won't

<Redstick> THEN START TEARING UP THE TISSUE

<RubberRabbit> vegetable tanned leather would work with this too--you get that at Tandy online

<Lory> how bout rabbit skin

<Lory> JUST KIDDING

<Redstick> IF YOU ARE MARBLING THE WHOLE PIECE OF CHAMOIS, YOU'LL PROLLY WANT TO USE BIGGER PIECES OF TISSUE

<RubberRabbit puts torn up tissue all over herself

<Redstick> SMALLER PIECE OF CHAMOIS, SMALLER PIECES OF TISSUE

<SusanR> now, nobody slap me, but we are talking about tissue...as in wrapping paper tissue?

<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<deb> yes

<SusanR> ty :)

<RubberRabbit> el cheapo colored wrapping tissue

<Lory> is there like a recommended number of different colors red?

<RubberRabbit> the kind that bleeds when you get it wet

<stampink> You want the Spectra Tissue

<Redstick> AS YOU LAY A PIECE ON THE WET CHAMOIS...KIND OF PAT IT, BUT NOT TOO FIRMLY OR YOU'LL LEAVE FINGER PRINTS

<SCstamper> could you use a brayer or soemthing instead of patting it?

<christiesobsession> idea:dollar stores have chamois & the tissue! :)

<Redstick> IT'S ALL TO TASTE LORY....THE LIGHTER COLORS WORK BEST IN MY OPINION...

<Lory> thanks

<Redstick> YOU'LL SEE THE GREEN BAG...IT WAS TOO DARK TO STAMP ON

<Lory> but but thats my favorite, lol

<Redstick> WHICH BRINGS ME TO......LAY A PC OF TISSUE DOWN AND THEN LIFT A CORNER AND LOOK

<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<SusanR> but it is lovely without the stamping

<glitrbug> Yeah, it looks really cool

<Redstick> SOME OF IT TRANSFERS COLOR QUICKLY....ESPECIALLY THE DARKER COLORS

<SCstamper> lory, you could always use it to layer if it is to dark to stamp on

<Redstick> AND KEEP USING THE SAME LITTLE PIECES....MOVE THEM AROUND

<Redstick> PAT THEM DOWN

<Redstick> SPRAY THEM WITH MORE WATER

<Redstick> YOU'LL GET A FEEL FOR HOW THE COLOR TRANSFERS AND WHICH COLORS TO LEAVE LONGEST

<cak> can you tell when to stop using the tissue bits?

<oceanne> this is so cool

<flyingfish> I got bounced...were just putting the tissue on the wet chamie thingy

<Redstick> WHEN YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE COLOR TRANSFERRRING...THEN THEY'RE DONE

<Redstick> PUT ON A PIECE, PUT ON ANOTHER PIECE...LIFT THE FIRST AND CHECK...

<Redstick> MOVE IT TO ANOTHER SPOT, PAT IT....CHECK ANOTHER PIECE...MOVE ANOTHER AND SPRAY

<Redstick> YOU'LL GET A RYTHM GOING :)

<Redstick> TO START WITH, I'D WORK WITH A PIECE ABOUT 6 X 8 TO 8 X 10

<beanjean1> and we're cutting the tissue? we could tear it...or doesn't it tear well?

<Redstick> TEAR, NOT CUT

<beanjean1> oh ok thanks

<beanjean1> must missed that

<Redstick> ALTHOUGH YOU'D PROBABLY GET A MORE DECO LOOK CUTTING IT

<beanjean1> hmmm

<beanjean1> yes

<Redstick> SQUARES, TRIANGLES...

<beanjean1 can't wait to try this

<MomCat> How about laying down several and brayering over them?

<Teri> do the inks from the tissue set? Or do you have to heat set them?

<flyingfish> hows about dye ink on a shadow stamp

<Redstick> REMEMBER THAT IT DRIES LIGHTER THAN IT WILL BE WET

<beanjean1> could stamp in the shapes

<Redstick> BUT ALSO THAT THE DARKER COLORS WILL STILL BE *DARK*

<Redstick> THE INKS SET AS THEY DRY, THOUGH YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO USE THIS FOR A CHAMOIS BATHING SUIT

<madkapkid> This has lots of possibilities

<Froggie> lol

<Vyx> hmm, I want a chamois bathing suit, lol...

<MysticMermaid> I love the covered journals you've done, Red.

<Redstick> YOU COULD STAMP SHAPES WHILE IT'S WET, BUT IT WILL ABSORB AND BLEED ABIT...

<SusanR> swimsuit not a pretty site!

Lory shudders...thats a bad visual in my case

<SusanR> LOL

<Redstick> AFTER IT'S DRY YOU ****CAN**** STAMP ON IT

<Teri> use dye inks

<Redstick> ARCHIVALS WORK GOOD, EVEN WITH DETAILED STAMPS

<Teri> ?

<beanjean1> hey red, this was great but I'm falling asleep :(

<beanjean1> night all!

<beanjean1> have fun!

<Redstick> NITE BJ!

<Froggie> nite bj

<MomCat> Does it dry stiff?

<beanjean1> byeeee

<Teri> nite

<Redstick> BRILLIANCE WORK WELL

<Teri> ooohhh I love Brilliance pads

<Redstick> IT DRIES WITH BODY MomCat.....BUT NOT REALLY *STIFF*

<Redstick> BUT.................YOU CANNOT, CANNOT.......EMBOSS ON IT

<Redstick SIGHS

<Redstick> DON'T ASK ME HOW i KNOW

<Vyx> Didja try?

<cak> sounds like you tried it Redstick

<flyingfish> Heat set it?

<oceanne> I'm glad I live in Oregon.. it's still early

<Redstick> ALTHOUGH....PERHAPS YOU COULD SPRAY IT WITH SOMETHING AND THEN EMBOSSS

<Marion> Could you paint on it with something like Lumieres?

<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<Redstick> I'LL HAFTA TRY

<LLB> I was wondering about embossing. Does it flake off?

<Redstick> YES...IT TAKES LUMIERES NICELY

<Vyx> Red, you mentioned making a shirt with chamois?

<Redstick> IT JUST MELTS INTO THE LEATHER, LLB

<LLB> Uk!

<Redstick> YES...YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEW THIS STUFF WITH A SEWING MACHINE...HEAVY DUTY NEEDLE

<Redstick> ALSO...A TIP

<deb> yes?

<Vyx> I think a marbled and then stamped chamois shirt would be mega cool...

<Redstick> WHEN YOU ARE SHOPPING FOR CHAMOIS....

<Redstick> (PEOPLE WILL THINK YOU'RE WEIRD...............BUT DO THIS ANYWAY)

<Redstick> THEY USUALLY COME FOLDED......FEEL THEM VERY WELL...TRY TO FEEL EACH SINGLE LAYER...

<flyingfish> What's weird to one is sane to another

<Teri> Will the colors run if it is worn? I'd hate to ruin someones clothing

<Froggie> lol, people always think I'm wierd

<Redstick> YOU'LL WANT TO CHOOSE THE ONES WITH MORE EVEN THICKNESS

<brenda> oh neat tip red

<flyingfish> and what are we weirdos feeling for?

<Lory> me too froggie

<Teri> That will fit right in at Walmart

<Redstick> SOME OF THEM ARE *REALLY* THIN IN SPOTS...PASS THOSE BY

<SCstamper> people shouldn't shop at wal-mart, but thats a story in it'self

<mj> the less expensive chamois are the ones that are not so even

<Redstick> IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A SHIRT.....I THINK I'D TRY TEXTILE INKS...THE HEAT SET KIND, RATHER THAN TISSUE

<Teri> thx

<Redstick> TRUE MJ.....BUT THERE ARE PLENTY HANGING THERE THAT ARE BETTER THAN THE OTHERS

<Redstick> EVEN THE CHEAP ONES VARY IN THICKNESS

<flyingfish> tomorrow after Church if I see any of you in the car section feelin the chamois!!!

<glitrbug> You will!

<Redstick> YES.....AND YOU *HAVE* TO LET IT DRY FLAT....

<Kanga> i'll be there

<Vyx> LOL, a run on chamois at wallyworld...

<flyingfish> lol

<Redstick> OR IT WILL STRETCH...IF YOU HANG IT WHILE IT'S WET

<stubby> looks like you let some of the chamois color show through, not all areas are died?

<deb> lol

<glitrbug> Redstick, when you make the book covers, are you putting it on chipboard?

<debbiesdiecuts> feeling chamois in walmart...that will look pretty normal in phenix city, ala

<Froggie> I'll be the one talking out loud to no one while feeling up the chamois

<christiesobsession> se we will have to ask anyone else who is feeling up the chamois if they were here tonight!

<Teri> ROFL

<Redstick> YES...I DID LET SOME OF THE NATURAL COLOR SHOW THROUGH....BUT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO

<SCstamper> froggie, i'll be doing the same thing at k-mart or somewhere

<Redstick> THE TWO BOOKS ON THE CLASS PAGE ARE TINY....NO BOOK BOARDS NEEDED.

<stubby> talk about the beads please, they are great looking

<Froggie> lol SCstamper, I always talk myself through a shopping experience

stamprat wishes her wallyworld was a 24-hour one!

<Redstick> I USED THIS CHAMOIS FOR A JOURNAL CLASS IN DAYTONA AND WE USED COVERED BOOK BOARD ON THE INSIDE AND SPINE

<flyingfish> I can hear security now...aisle 5 feelin up the chamois

<glitrbug> ok, would make a good booklet to carry around for notes or phone #'s

<SCstamper> i talk myself through every experience

<Redstick> THE BEADS.....YES...USE ***ALL** THE LITTLE SCRAPS!!

<Redstick> THESE ARE LIKE THE PAPER BEADS YOU CAN MAKE...

<madkapkid> the beads look cool!

<flyingfish> I love the booklets that are on the site

<Redstick> CUT THE LEATHER INTO LONG NARROW TRIANGLES..

<flyingfish> what kinda glue

<Magistmpr> very nice

<SCstamper> what about layering, like on the card, what type of glue works best?

<debbiesdiecuts> so no boards in the books...

<Redstick> I USED A PAINT BRUSH TO WRAP IT AROUND AND GLOSS GEL ACRYLIC MEDIUM AS THE GLUE

<debbiesdiecuts> do you attach the inside pages to the spine

<SCstamper> noep debbie, you can't use those scraps of yours this time!!

<Redstick> NO BOARDS ON THE TINY BOOKS.

<Kanga> gloss gel acrylic medium??

<SCstamper> red, what about glue for using a square on a card?

<debbiesdiecuts> i gotta get some of that gel acrylic medium

<Teri> what type of glue for the cards

<Vyx> Is that gonna be in the paints aisle at Michaels?

<Redstick> ONE OF THESE LITTLE BOOKS HAS A PAMPHLET STITCH SPINE, THE OTHER A CROSS OVER STAB STITCH.....BOTH OF THESE STITCHES ARE IN THE PROJECTS SECTION OF OUR WEBSITE

<Teri> inquiring minds wanna know

<debbiesdiecuts> its in the mediums section at Hobby Lobby

<Kanga> ty deb

<debbiesdiecuts> in the art dept.

<flyingfish> Art section at Hobby Lobby...16.50 for 16oz

<Redstick> FOR THE CARD, I USED THE REDLINER TAPE.....BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE STURDY USING AILEENE'S TACKY GLUE..

<Kanga> wow, thanks!

<SCstamper> www.dickblick.com has mediums pretty cheap (and other items for crafts)

<Mary_ray> :-)

<Redstick> THAT'S WHAT WE USED ON THE BIGGER JOURNALS

<Vyx> Okay, I have Aileenes Tacky Glue.

<Teri> :)

<MysticMermaid> I don't think there is anything more sturdy than Redliner

<Redstick> THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE BIGGER JOURNAL UNDER "CLASSES" ON THE WEBSITE

<twodog> url, pls

<Magistmpr> :)

<Redstick> I DID USE THE REDLINER TO ATTACH THE LITTLE BEADS TO THE CHAMOIS ON THE CARD TOO....SEEM TO BE HOLDING WELL

<deb> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<glitrbug> cool, I love making books and wanted some cheaper leather

<twodog> ty, deb

<deb> yw

Vyx doesn't even know what redliner tape is....

<Redstick> THE DRAWSTRING BAG IS TWO PIECES SEWN WITH A CROSSOVER STITCH AROUND THE EDGES....HARD TO SEE BUT THERE ARE TINY BEADS IN EACH STITCH

<deb> double sided tape

<deb> strong tape

<madkapkid> well, I raid my husbands tool box...NOW gonna have to see if he has some chamois!! TEE HEE

<debbiesdiecuts> i have some finished leather...could use it for books...wonder if I could paint it with Lumiere

<Magistmpr> LOL

<Redstick> YES debbiesdiecuts....LUMIERES WILL WORK ON LEATHER

<debbiesdiecuts> cool...

<glitrbug> Lumieres seem to work on everything

<debbiesdiecuts> i have had this leather...since I made my mom her leather boots years ago

<deb> they do!

<Redstick> FOR THE FRINGED BAG....IT'S ALL ONE PIECE OF LEATHER

<SCstamper> i gotta get me some of those

<Teri> Hubby keeps on asking "Is nothing sacred anymore?"

<madkapkid> I know Teri....MY husband says the same thing!! :)

<Redstick> THE CORD WAS SEWN ONTO THE SIDE EDGES WHILE THEY WERE BEING STITCHED TOGETHER

<cak> cool, very nice touch Red--it really finishes it well

<brenda> you made it jaspepper

<debbiesdiecuts> thanks for class red...will play with some leather one day...

<jaspepper> thanks

<debbiesdiecuts> I have to go

<Redstick> HANG ON A SECOND AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN POST A PIC OF THE LARGER JOURNAL....OR AT LEAST FIND THE URL

<SCstamper> bye deb

<deb> bye debbie

<debbiesdiecuts> bot church early in the am

<debbiesdiecuts> bye y'all...blessings

<brenda> bye debbie

<oceanne> bye debbie

<cak> night debbie

<Kanga> by debbie

<glitrbug> Nite

<Teri> nite deb

<Marion> Thanks for a great class.

<oceanne> no kids no time limit no husband.... Im in heaven

<deb> lol

<Kanga> ditto

<brenda> wow oceanne

<Redstick> http://www.enchantedink.com/classes/afj.htm

<cak> thanks Red

<oceanne> Im lucky

<oceanne> or old... havent decided

<Redstick> THERE'S THE PAGE WITH THE PIC OF THE CHAMOIS JOURNAL

<deb> oh wow

<deb> I love that

<brenda> awesome

<deb> did you make that one too?

<SCstamper> red, may i ask, do you plan on putting grab bags on special during convention?

<jenmist> wow

<Froggie> fantastic

<Redstick> I ALSO DID ONE IN RED/ORANGE/YELLOW WITH FALL LEAVES.....VERY VERY PRETTY

<jenmist> Red - you are an inspiration

<oceanne> that journal is beautiful

<Kanga> awsome!

<glitrbug> that is so beautiful!

<glitrbug> I wish I could take a class in person & see your art up close!

<Magistmpr> Love that journal.

<Redstick> ACTUALLY, SCstamper...THE GRABBAGS ARE THE SPECIALS :) BUT YOU GET EM FREE WITH PURCHASE....CERTAIN SIZE, ETC

<madkapkid> I agree magi...its super.

<jenmist> I hope to have a class with Red this fall - right ?????????

<Redstick> THANKEE THANKEE

<Redstick> UH....HMMMM......DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT ONE, JENN :(

<deb> oh no jen

<deb> lol

<jenmist> ohhhhhhhh

<deb> she's been talking about that for days red LOL

<Redstick> I AMMMMMMMM SORRY, JEN!

<jenmist> I was gonna make Deb come again too

<deb> > )

<madkapkid> thanks...LOVED the class. NOW I wanna give it a try!!!

<SCstamper> well i go to fix my computer, i'll be back for social

<deb> maybe we can follow her somewhere else jen

<jenmist> it is lucky you are my candy kid

<deb> lol

<Redstick> I HOPE TO GET UP THAT WAY NEXT YEAR

<jenmist> anything in TX in the fall/winter?

<Redstick> TRYING TO SCHEDULE THINGS ABIT BETTER FOR NEXT YEAR

<flyingfish> Thanks Red...wonderful class...can't wait til morning we have no stores open past 12n on Sat or Sun thanks

<MomCat> Beautiful stuff Red. Thanks

<Vyx> what about grapevine in January?

<Redstick> MAKE SURE THAT YOU VISIT THE SOCIAL GAMES PAGE!! http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/games.htm

<Seesa> Thank yya all!

<Redstick> GRAPEVINE IN JAN IS A DEFINITE POSSIBILITY

<MysticMermaid> Red ... as usual, your ideas are wonderful. Thanks a lot.

<Vyx> Yay!

<Redstick> IF WE GET IN,......WAS FULL THE FIRST DAY THIS YEAR

<cak> you always come up with such interesting stuff (I'm in awe of the teachers)

<mj> very nice! thx

<Vyx> Wonderful class, Red, and lots of great ideas!

<Vyx> thank you!

<Redstick> DON'T FORGET....DOING THE PERFECT PEARLS WEDNESDAY AND ITTY BITTY TEENY TINY PUT IT IN YER POCKET BOOK THURSDAY!

<jenmist> I would be more comfortable with my simple little classes if I did not attend anyone elses

<SusanR> Thank you much! Beautiful things!!!

<cak> Red, when you pamphlet bound the little book, did you have any trouble gettng the needle through by hand?

<Redstick> I POKED IT WITH A STICK PIN FIRST, CAK.....STANDARD BOOK BINDING TOOL :)

<oceanne> I'll be out of the hospital by thursday... I love this class Redstick

<Redstick> GREAT oceanne...THANKS FOR COMING!

<Vyx> Use an awl for sewing leathers...

<cak> but of course! (I often don't bother with a pamphlet stitch--maybe I should)

<flyingfish> If you didn't use bookboards to make the little books what did you use?

<Redstick> ACTUALLY THE JAPANSES BOOK DRILL WORKS LIKE A CHARM!

<cak> Yay! I'll dig mine out--

<Redstick> FISH...THEY ARE JUST THE LEATHER COVERS WITH CARDSTOCK PAGES...

<Vyx> I'm more likely to try the little bags than any books.

<Redstick> THEY ARE REALLY TINY THOUGH....MAYBE 2 X 3

<flyingfish> How are the covers constructed

<Teri> nite all

<Redstick> JUST CUT THE LEATHER FOLD OVER, PUT THE PAGES INSIDE

<cak> (night Teri)

<Redstick> NO CONSTRUCTION TO IT

<flyingfish> Got cha now!

<flyingfish> thanks so much

<Redstick> THE JOURNAL WAS A DIFFERENT STORY....WHEN YOU GET BIGGER, THE CHAMOIS IS TOO SOFT TO SUPPORT THE WEIGHT..

<Redstick> THE JOURNAL HAS PAPER WRAPPED BOARDS INSIDE FRONT AND BACK COVER, PLUS A PAPER WRAPPED SPINT SUPPORT BOARD

<flyingfish> so then you use the book board or similar, and use the awl or screwpunch?

<Redstick> YEP

<RubberRabbit> Red are we supposed to make the guesses of your games in an email or to you in person in the social?

<Redstick> IN PERSON IN THE SOCIAL

<RubberRabbit> cool

<flyingfish> Super Thanks and have a good night everyone

<SusanR> okay....so how do we do that?....in person in the social?

<Redstick> JUST CAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN WEBCHAT MAY NOT KNOW HOW TO OPEN ANOTHER BROWSER....

<Redstick> PLUS THE BANDWWIDTH OF EVERYONE TRYING TO SEE THE PAGES AT ONCE...

<SusanR> yes...me...meeeee! :)

<cak> I wonder if you could back it with a stiff paper (use the end papers) for a limp binding (I think that's the term--floppier than board supported ones)?

<cak> Night flyingfish

<Redstick> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/games.htm

<Redstick> GAMES ARE THERE....

Redstick IS THINKING CAK..

<Redstick> not sure i understand what you mean

<Redstick> chamois is soft, soft leather, cak....it will stretch if there's too much weight

<cak> um, kinda like those old Bibles? not wrapped boards, but certainly not just, oh--maybe they are just plain leather

<Redstick> if it was a book that would always be laying down, handled very little, maybe

<Redstick> or a tightly bound thick book where the pages supported themselves...like the bibles...yes

<cak> yeah, this wouldn't be a bookshelf book, would it?

<MomCat> You could probably glue it to interfacing material cak

<Redstick> i was going to say that....it might help

<cak> good idea

<glitrbug> More like a little back pocket book for notes or sketches

<cak> good for rolling up and packing

<glitrbug> Yes!

<crazyclaudia> HI REDSTICK, THIS IS CLAUDIA IN FL, I'M LATE

<Redstick> even in the spine supported book, I recommended that they consider additional stiffener in the spine folds if they went any bigger than what we were doing in class

<Redstick> CLAUDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<Redstick> Yes!!! Good to see you!

<crazyclaudia> WHEAR ARE THE DIRECTIONS

<Redstick> http://www.enchantedink.com/booth/class1.htm

<crazyclaudia> REMEMBER NAKED LADIES RED

<Redstick> actually, I'm heading to the social room...

<Redstick> yes..I remember..

<Redstick> I just haven't had time :(

<Redstick> and I think my initial work on them won't translate in the halftone process...i need to rescan and clean again

<crazyclaudia> I'M IN NO HURRY

Redstick is awfully nit picky when it comes to art...

<Redstick> come on over to the social!!

<deb> next event #enchantedink

<MeeganBearRubber> thanks for the class redstick - it was great

<cak> Yes, thanks again Red--see you at the social!

<Redstick> thanks for coming, MeeganBearRubber!

Redstick heads for the door...

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