Log file opened at 6/23/02 6:56:26 PM

<cak> secondstar, is there a web site for the class tonight?

<secondstar> CLASS SAMPLES ARE AT http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<cak> (you're psychic!) thanks

<secondstar> lol!

<christiesobsession> wow! that sample is amazing!!!

<secondstar> TY

<starofhearts> I really like Rowena....

<madkapkid> The samples are awesome!!!

<cak> I just love the subtle coloring!

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<brenda> awesome samples

<secondstar> G'DAY PAM

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<LuniLadi> Duet is my fav

<LuniLadi> great effect

<Aussie_Pam> g'day to you too.

<LuniLadi> better than a photo

<cak> Yes, Rowenna is irresistable. When will she be out?

<secondstar> OK-LET'S DO THE SPECIALS THING

<LuniLadi> let's :)

<Sandy> I have the sunflower one so I can't wait to see how that is done

<debbiesdiecuts> is this photos or stamped images

<debbiesdiecuts> or both

<secondstar> 2 FULL PLATES ARE 10% OFF

<LuniLadi> oh, me too!

<secondstar> 3 ARE 15% OFF

<secondstar> 4 OR MORE ARE 20% OFF

<secondstar> AND FOR TONIGHT ONLY

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<secondstar> BUY 4 MINIPLATES (ENDING IN A) AND GET A 5TH ONE FREE

<cak> Wow!

<secondstar> OK - NOW I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS

<phyllis> Hi! The samples are lovely

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<secondstar> ROWENNA WILL BE OUT IN JULY

<debbiesdiecuts> are these stamps or real photos

<secondstar> THESE ARE PHOTO REALISTIC STAMPS

<deb> stamps

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<debbiesdiecuts> cool...they are very very nice

<secondstar> TY

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<April> love these stamps...

<twodog> very nice

<secondstar> HOWEVER - YOU CAN COLOR B&W PHOTOS THE SAME WAY

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<kaye> hello all

<deb> ok - conversations to a minimum

<deb> private message

<deb> or chat room is open

<deb> debbie - whenever you are ready

<debbiesdiecuts> the chalk will stick to the black and white photo

<phyllis> ready

<secondstar> I'M GOING TO START WITH SOME TIPS ON STAMPING THE PHOTO STYLE STAMPS

<secondstar> YOU WANT TO USE GLOSSY CS FOR THIS TECHNIQUE

<secondstar> MOST GLOSSIES WILL WORK

<secondstar> THE ONE I USE IS A FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE ONE I GET AT PAPER ZONE

<secondstar> I PREFER TO USE ANCIENT PAGE DYE INK PADS FOR THIS

<Aussie_Pam> why?

<cak> But dye ink over pigment ink?

<secondstar> YOU WANT A PERMANENT DYE INK FOR THIS

<secondstar> PIGMENT INKS WOULD SMEAR

<secondstar> MEMORIES OR ADIRONDAK WILL WORK

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<Kanga> ty

<cak> oh, of course--this is glossy!

<secondstar> I JUST PREFER THE SPANGE ON ANCIENT PAGE

<secondstar> SPONGE

<phyllis> Pigment inks also thicker

<secondstar> YOU WANT TO KEEP THE INK PAD FAIRLY JUICY

<secondstar> ONE MISTAKE MOST PEOPLE MAKE WITH THESE STAMPS IS LETTING THE INK PAD DRY OUT

<secondstar> I USUALLY REINK AFTER EVERY 4TH OR 5TH IMAGE

<deb> OH

<deb> ok

<secondstar> AND THE STAMP HAS TO BE KEPT VERY CLEAN

<Aussie_Pam> I can see I will have to stock up on reinkers when I'm up there!

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<secondstar> I THINK REINKERS ARE YOUR BEST STAMPING INVESTMENT

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<secondstar> AFTER STAMPS OF COURSE :)

<labelle> har, har

<deb> lol

<Aussie_Pam> lol

<Kanga> lol

<brenda> lol

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<cak> Do you carry the inks and reinkers secondstar?

<secondstar> IF YOU SEE LITTLE WHITISH SPOTS IN YOUR STAMPED IMAGE IT MEANS YOUR STAMP IS DIRTY

<secondstar> I DON'T CARRY INKS - A LOT OF THE OTHER VENDORS DO

<secondstar> AFTER YOU HAVE STAMPED YOUR IMAGE

<cak> thanks--about the dirty stamps. Are they easy to clean when they're so detailed?

<secondstar> LET THE INK DRY FOR A FEW MINUTES

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<secondstar> OR HEAT FIX

<secondstar> I CLEAN WITH A CITRUS BASED PRODUCT I GET AT JO ANNE

<secondstar> CALLED CRAY AWAY

<cak> lol--I've never heard of it. Thanks again

<secondstar> IT'S ALSO GREAT FOR GETTING GLUE OR ALLENE'S TACK IT OFF YOUR MOUNTS

<secondstar> MOST GOOD STAMP CLEANERS WILL WORK

<secondstar> I USE DECOATO CHALKS, THE KIND THAT COME AS LITTLE SQUARES IN A TRAY

<secondstar> STICK CHALKS ARE TOO HARD

<deb> so a soft chalk

<secondstar> ALL YOU DO IS GET SOME CHALK ON A COTTON SWAB

<secondstar> AND RUB IT ONTO THE CS

<secondstar> THE CHALK ACTUALLY SINKS INTO THE COATING ON THE CS

<secondstar> SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE A FIXATIVE

<cak> do you have to be careful about not "coloring outside the lines"?

<secondstar> NOT TOO MUCH

<phyllis> Someone suggested getting the real small pompoms and using them with a tweezer as applicators.

<secondstar> YOU CAN GO BACK WITH A CLEAN SWAB

<deb> I like the pointed swab

<secondstar> AND TOUCH UP ANY MISTAKES

<Aussie_Pam> that sounds like a good idea Phyllis

<secondstar> THERE ARE ALSO SOME REAL SMALL APPLICATORS WITH A POM POM ON THE END

<cak> good (I'm usually kinda out of control)

<secondstar> THESE ARE GOOD FOR EYES AND LIPS

<secondstar> THE MAIN THING WITH THIS TECHNIQUE IS NOT TO OVERDO THE COLOR

<secondstar> YOU ARE GOING FOR A VERY SOFT LOOK

<debbiesdiecuts> this is glossy cardstock you are working on

<secondstar> YES

<cak> is it easy to overdo or do you have to work at it?

<debbiesdiecuts> and the chalk does not need a fixative

<secondstar> NO

<debbiesdiecuts> will artist pastel chalks work too

<secondstar> ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU ARE DONE COLORING

<secondstar> YOU TAKE A CLEAN SWAB AND WIPE OFF ANY EXTRA CHALK

<secondstar> THAT IS SITTING ON TOP OF THE BLACK INK

<secondstar> THAT WAY THE IMAGE POS BACK OUT

<secondstar> POPS BACK OUT

<cak> cool

<madkapkid> IT sure is a great look...

<secondstar> ARTIST'S PASTELL ARE TOO HARD

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<secondstar> BUT IF YOU SCRAPE THEM WITH A CRAFT KNIFE

<secondstar> TO LOOSEN THE CHALK THEY WILL WORK

<no-vicki> will the chalk pencils be too harsh for this?

<secondstar> I HAVE USED PENCILS, IT WORKS

<secondstar> BUT TAKES LONGER AND MIGHT LEAVE MARKS ON THE CS

<secondstar> ONE VARIATION IF YOU WANT TO USE REGULAR WATERCOLOR PENCILS

<secondstar> IS TO STAMP THE IMAGE AND THEN SPRAY WITH A MATTE FIXATIVE

<secondstar> THEN COLOR THE IMAGE

<deb> cool

<Midnight> thanks

<secondstar> KRYLONS WORKABLE FIXATIVE WORKS GREAT FOR THIS

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/chalk.htm

<secondstar> AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SAMPLES

<secondstar> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PHOTO STYLE IMAGE

<secondstar> I CHALKED THE HOLLY ON THE DUET CARD

<twodog> with watercolor pencils, you couldn't just stamp on matte cs? or does stamp not stamp as well?

<secondstar> AND THE FLOWERS ON THE SUNFLOWER CARD

<secondstar> THE VERY DETAILED PHOTO STAMPS DON'T STAMP AS WELL ON MATTE

<twodog> ty

<labelle> how did you color the two girls in

<labelle> Duet?

<secondstar> I USED A MIX OF A LIGHT PINK AND PEACH FOR THE FLESH TONES

<secondstar> JUST DABBED THE SWAB IN THE PINK, THEN IN THE PEACH

<secondstar> USED A RUST COLOR ON THEIR HAIR

<secondstar> TINY AMOUNT OF DARK PINK ON LIPS

<secondstar> AND THEN GREEN ON ONE GOWN

<secondstar> AND BLUE ON THE OTHER

<secondstar> REALLY EASY

<SusanR> are you using a q-tip swab?

<secondstar> YES

<deb> it's very effective!

<labelle> really stunning

<SusanR> ty...looks beautiful!

<phyl> and it actually stays on glossy paper?

<secondstar> YOU CAN RUB YOUR HAND RIGHT OVER IT AND IT STAYS THERE

<phyl> that is just so great thanks

<brenda> wow

<cak> secondstar, kinda backtracking, but would the Brilliance inks work for this

<secondstar> THAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS TO IT

<cak> ?

<secondstar> JUST EXPERIMENT

<debbiesdiecuts> this is just too cool...cause i love chalks

<Aussie_Pam> I'll have to give this a try this afternoon

<secondstar> BRILLIANCE RUBS OFF ONTO THE SWAB

<phyl> right do the inks have anything to do with this?

<phyl> can you use any permanent ink?

<phyl> or is one better than the other?

<secondstar> ANY PERMANENT INK

<secondstar> I LIKE ANCIENT PAGE BEST

<phyl> thanks

<cak> thank you--I'm glad you are a good experimenter!

<secondstar> MEMORIES DOES TEND TO RUB OFF ONTO THE SWAB

<phyl> even if you heat it?

<secondstar> THEN THE BLACK SMEARS INTO THE COLOR YOU ARE WORKING ON

<secondstar> YES

<phyl> eeeeeeeeeew

<debbiesdiecuts> will Ranger archival black work

<secondstar> MY ANCIENT PAGE PAD FELL APART ON ME AT THE ST PAUL CONVENTION

<SusanR> so...ancient page is more permanent that memories?

<madkapkid> Document Black is pretty good....

<phyl> time to buy an anchient page pad

<secondstar> AFTER ABOUT 300 DEMOS - LOL!

<phyl> got your money's worth on that one

<secondstar> NO ONE THERE SOLD ANCIENT PAGE - SO I TRIED MEMORIES AND ADIRONDAK

<phyl> no adrionkak either?

<cak> it sounds like you reink it often enough to avoid the friction of a dry pad--I bet that helps

<secondstar> EVERYONE AGREED THAT THE ANCIENT PAGE LOOKED BETTER AND WAS EASIER TO WORK WITH

<brenda> ok

<phyl> good

<secondstar> ADIRINDAK WAS OK AS FAR AS THE INK GOES

<phyl> but?

<secondstar> BUT THE WAY THE PAD IS SHAPED

<secondstar> MAKES IT HARD TO INK UP BIG STAMPS

<secondstar> YOU COULD USE A BRAYER THOUGH

<secondstar> I LIKE THE LOOK OF ONLY COLORING PART OF AN IMAGE

<secondstar> LIKE JUST THE EYES OF THE CAT

<secondstar> OR JUST THE CENTER OF A FLOWER

<phyllis> I love Ancient page but the tops stick to each other in apile- what a mess. Have you tried ZIMINK? It's my new favorite black for everything.

<cak> it really draws your attention to that area--very effective

<secondstar> IT MAKES A VERY EFFECTIVE CARD AND REAL FAST AND EASY TO MAKE

<secondstar> HAVEN'T TRIED ZIM YET

beanjean1 LOVES Zim INk

<secondstar> THEY WERE USING IT TO STAMP ON ACETATE AT THE CONVENTION

<beanjean1> here's a disclaimer....I DO work for them occasionally

<secondstar> SO I WANT TO GIVE IT A TRY

<beanjean1> BUT it's the best black!!!

<phyllis> I use it for almost everything!

<SusanR> the little girl card....is she masked or cut out and positioned on top?

<secondstar> MASKED

<secondstar> DUET IS ALSO STAMPED FIRST AND THEN MASKED

<SusanR> ty

<beanjean1> the samples are just STUNNING Deb

<secondstar> RMEMBER TO CUT YOUR MASK JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN YOUR IMAGE SO YOU DON'T GET A HAO EFFECT

<labelle> what do you use to mask?

<secondstar> HALO

<secondstar> JUST A PIECE OF PAPER

<LiBsTeR> Rowenna is to die for! Just plain beautiful!

<debbiesdiecuts> would dye based inks work to color the images...like the sea shells from ranger

<secondstar> YOU COULD TRY STIPPLING IN THE COLOR

<secondstar> THE JUDIKINS COLOR DUSTERS MIGHT GIVE YOU ENOUGH

<phyllis> the thinner the paper, the better the mask

<secondstar> CONTROL TO GET INTO THE SMALLER AREAS

<debbiesdiecuts> ok...so how much are these images again

<secondstar> DUET SELLS FOR 6.50 -

<secondstar> IT'S A QUARTER PLATE WITH THE DUET IMAGE AND A COUPLE OF VERSES ON IT

<phyl> good price there

<labelle> any place to see it?

<secondstar> SUNFLOWERS IS ALSO AVAILABLE AS A QUARTER SHETT

<labelle> the plate that is

<secondstar> WITH SOME VERSES AS WELL AS THE MAIN IMAGE

<Carole> Was Rowenna also masked?

<secondstar> YES

<deb> http://secondstarontheright.com/

<brenda> deb do you take paypal?????

<secondstar> YES

<brenda> ty

<christiesobsession> but we cant get Rowenna yet right?

<secondstar> THE LITTLE GIRL IS FROM THE

<secondstar> THANK HEAVEN FOR LITTLE GIRLS PLATE

<secondstar> NOT TILL THE END OF JULY

<phyl> dang

<secondstar> SHE WILL BE ON A PLATE WITH 4 OTHER LADIES

<phyllis> I love the little girl!

<secondstar> AND SOME VERSES

<brenda> wow

<labelle> can we preorder now?

<Carole> Your samples are just lovely. Thanks so much for sharing them with us.

<brenda> i love her

<secondstar> I'M NOT TAKING PAID PREORDERS BUT WOULD LIKE A HEAD COUNT

<phyllis> Can you tell us the price?

<secondstar> I COULD PUT THE PLATE UP ON THE WEB LATER IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REST OF IT

deb hands deb her head

<phyllis> Love to see the plate

<labelle> i would like to see it

<secondstar> $24

<phyl> yes please

<madkapkid> I would like to see it...

<secondstar> BYB

<cak> (oooo, I bet we're gonna get a sneak preview)

<Carole> I would love to see it.

<christiesobsession> we are so spoiled here, this is great!

<twodog> definitely

<cak> convention time is always exciting

<phyl> convention time is noisey around here

<secondstar> ok - it's loading on the home page

<secondstar> should be up in a few minutes

<phyl> dh yelling constantly get off that computer lol

<cak> thank you ss!

<phyllis> can you give us a direct link to it

<secondstar> REMEMBER TO HIT CONTROL PLUS RELOAD IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT

<secondstar> http://secondstarontheright.com

<secondstar> click on the thumbnail to see the full size image

<secondstar> it's still uploading - will take a few minutes

<SusanR> is that "black" ancient page on the music of Rowenna?

<secondstar> LOL! my website has gotten too big

<secondstar> it takes forever for something new to load

<cak> never! we want all the stamps we can get from you

<secondstar> i used stone gray for the music

<SusanR> ty

<secondstar> ANY QUESTIONS?

<cak> not from me (but wait til I try this the first time)

<tucsonbrookie> thanks for all the great tips

<Aussie_Pam> good class Deb. Thanks

<secondstar> IT'S REAL EASY

<secondstar> I'LL BE DEMOING THIS TECHNIQUE AT UPCOMING CONVENTIONS

<cak> It's real beautiful (easy is a bonus) Thank you for teaching us

<twodog> thanks for the class.

<no-vicki> deb, what is the name of the corner punch on the first card?

<madkapkid> Great class

<phyl> wonderful class fantastic samples

<secondstar> I'M GOING TO BE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS

<Carole> Yes, thank you for the class.

<phyl> in las vegas in october?

<brenda> deb coming to south carolina?

<secondstar> NOT SURE OF THE NAME OF THAT ONE

<phyllis> It's on the website- what beautiful girls! Where do you get the photos from- are they family or just unknown?

<brenda> aunty amy

<secondstar> NOT DOING LAS VEGAS OR sc THIS YEAR

<secondstar> WILL PROBABLY BE AT BOTH IN 2003

<phyl> dang

<brenda> yippie

<brenda> can i work for you in sc?

<brenda> lol

<secondstar> SURE :)

<brenda> will remind you

<phyllis> Come to NY- in November

<brenda> yippieeeeee

<Kanga> cincinnati in August?

<secondstar> I'M GOING TO BE IN MILWAUKEE THAT WEEKEND

<labelle> new plate is on homepage, where?

<secondstar> BUT WILL BE DOING ONE IN SYRACUSE NEXT YEAR

<phyllis> Click on the sample on the right and it will come up

<beanjean1> are you going to be at Ft. Worth, IN?

<secondstar> YES

<phyllis> OOPS- left

<labelle> ty]

<Kanga> Novi, MI in August?

<LuniLadi> when is Syracuse...I'll visit my son in college...lol

<secondstar> OOPS - NOT FT WORTH - FT COLLINS

<christiesobsession> I see the plate now ss, they are absolutely fabulous! A must have when it comes out.

<beanjean1> OH SHOOT

<beanjean1> I meant Ft. Wayne!!!

<phyllis> When did you say they'll be out?

<LindaR> deb, the new plate is lovely, can't wait

<keribou> Syracuse is doing convention next year?

<deb> deb this is fabulous

<deb> thank you so much

<deb> next event #bearrubber social hour

<Kanga> love the plate!

<secondstar> END OF JULY

<cak> END of July?!? Oh no!

<LuniLadi> deb...when is the Syracuse convention?

<secondstar> RUBBER STAMP EXPO IS DOING SYRACUSE

<secondstar> ONE MINUTE

<phyllis> Thanks for the great class. Night' all

<phyl> nite phyllis

<secondstar> SYRACUSE MAY31 & jUNE 1

<LindaR> thanks for the class, looking forward to the new plate

<LuniLadi> TY!

<no-vicki> thanks deb, great class

<secondstar> TY

<phyl> love the new plate, outstanding job

<beanjean1> thanks deb, great class

<LiBsTeR> THanks Deb, enjoyed the class a lot

<LuniLadi> great class deb....always is

<Aussie_Pam> secondstar> would this technique look OK using the Aussie stamp plate?

<Carole> Thanks again for class.

<Terribear> thanks for the class.

<secondstar> SHOULD WORK FINE ON THOSE IMAGES

<Aussie_Pam> i'll have a go this afternoon. Think the opera house would be great and the map

<secondstar> I'M GOING TO BE PLAYING WITH THEM LATER THIS WEEK

<deb> thanks deb

<Aussie_Pam> doing what?

<secondstar> MY STAMP CLUB HAS A SISTER CLUB DOWN UNDER

<secondstar> AND WE HAVE A SWAP GOING

<Aussie_Pam> where?

<secondstar> NOT SURE EXACTLY

<Aussie_Pam> can you let me know.

<secondstar> I'LL CHECK WITH THE SWAP MOM THIS WEEK

<secondstar> WE MEET ON THURS

<Aussie_Pam> or get them to contact me. I'll go into your web site and send you an e-mail

<secondstar> OK

<Aussie_Pam> see ya. Bye

<secondstar> HOO ROO

<deb> thanks again deb

<Aussie_Pam> lol

<brenda> deb love the samples and class

<secondstar> TY

<labelle> ty and good nite

<secondstar> WHO'S UP NEXT?

<deb> nit elabelle

<deb> it's bear rubber stamps social hour

<deb> and anima design in here in an hour

<secondstar> OK - TIME TO GO GET SOME DINNER

<secondstar> TTFN

<cak> thank you so much deb--

Log file closed at 6/23/02 8:04:32 PM