<LindaR> i finally found the tiles from last time at Home Depot, had to check about 4 before i found one which carried them
<Kim> i found something else neat at Home Depot
<Kim> little tiny rock shaped tiles made out of the same material
<Kim> they have a flat surface
<Kim> so you can stamp on them
<Kim> I used tiny words from some of my stamp sheets
<Kim> and gave a set to a friend for her birthday in a drawstring bag
<labelle> what is special about these tiles?
<Kim> they are unglazed so they stamp really well without smearing
<labelle> do they have to be made of anything special?
<LindaR> they're an unpolished stone, so you can stamp
<LindaR> i think they were a marble, weren't they?
<Kim> the fact that they are just tumbled and not glazed or polished is what makes them so nice IMHO
<labelle> ty
<Kim> yes, they are marble but not shiny and slick like wwhat you're used to
<LindaR> they're very organic, rough and irregular, so they look old and worn
<Kim> they make perfect coasters
<Kim> yes, and the colors are nice too
<Kim> i'll wait another couple of minutes and then i'll start
<LindaR> kim has some great pix and instructions. http://www.animadesigns.com/projects/stampingontileoutput/index.htm
<Seesa> Instructions are good!
<LindaR> those are for the tile stamping
<labelle> ty now I understand better
<Seesa> Wow those are amazing
<Kim> they're really easy too
<Kim> http://www.animadesigns.com/projects/foodcoloringout/index.htm
<Kim> THIS IS THE URL FOR THIS CLASS
<Seesa> Ok who wants what to drink? I am only making ONE trip to the kitchen!
<Kim> ICED CHAMMOMILE FOR ME!
keribou passes salty snack- wanna bet Seesa?
<Sandy> Beautiful samples...
<Seesa> lol
<kristi-afk> lol
<keribou> Kim does the foodcoloring come off the paper and onto your hands when you tocuh these?
<Kim> http://www.animadesigns.com/projects/foodcoloringout/index.htm
<Kim> THIS IS THE URL
<Kim> WHEN YOU ARE ACTUALLY DYEING THE PAPER, YOU MUST WEAR RUBBER GLOVES IF YOU DON'T WANT GREEN HANDS
<Kim> OR RED
<Kim> OR YELLOW
<Kim> OR BLUE
<Kim> BUT ONCE THE PAPER IS DRY, THE COLOR DOESN'T COME OFF
<keribou> thanks Kim
<LindaR> thanks for that tip, green hands are not good
<Kim> BEFORE WE GET STARTED, THESE INSTRUCTIONS ALONG WITH OTHER PROJECTS ARE ON THE ANIMA PROJECTS PAGE
<Sandy> I can't wait to try the walnut ink after your last class
<Kim> WALNUT INK IS FUN!
<Kim> I USUALLY USE LARGE PAPER THAT I CUT DOWN TO SIZE
<labelle> what weight paper?
<Kim> YOU CAN ALSO USE TAGS OR LIBRARY POCKETS, WHATEVER
<Kim> I'M USING MY FAVORITE RIVES BFK WHICH COMES ONLY IN ONE WEIGHT BUT SEVERAL COLORS
<Kim> THIS TECHNIQUE WILL WORK ON ANYTHING THOUGH, EVEN HANDS
<labelle> can u translate for us paper illiterates?
<Kim> RIVES BFK IS A FRENCH PRINTMAKING PAPER THAT YOU CAN GET IN AN ART SUPPLY STORE
<labelle> ty
<Kim> BUT YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE ANY KIND OF PAPER
<Kim> THIS DYE WILL PERMEATE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING
<Kim> I HAVEN'T TRIED IT ON THE TILES BUT I BET IT WOULD BE GREAT
<Kim> YOU SHOULD HAVE A SHALLOW CONTAINER THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS IN
<Kim> LARGE ENOUGH FOR YOUR PAPER
<Kim> ALWAYS DO A BUNCH OF SHEETS BECAUSE THERE IS PLENTY OF DYE
<Kim> THE BASIC PROCESS IS THAT YOU SQUIRT THE DYE DIRECTLY ONTO THE PAPER
<Kim> AND THEN LAY ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER ON TOP
<Kim> ADD ANOTHER COLOR
<Kim> LAY ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER ON TOP
<Kim> ADD ANOTHER COLOR, AND SO ON
<cak> Really squirt, not just drop color on the paper?
<Seesa> How many layers do you do?
<Kim> IT'S FAIRLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU FOLLOW THE COLOR WHEEL IN APPYING THE COLORS
<Kim> AS MANY LAYERS AS I HAVE PAPER--YOU CAN STACK IT UP PRETTY HIGH BUT
<Kim> YOU ARE GOING TO BE MANIPULATING IT SO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN EASILY WORK WITH
<Kim> ONCE YOU GET TO THE LAST SHEET, I PICK THE WHOLE THING UP AND FLIP IT OVER
<Kim> BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU
<Kim> DO THIS OR
<Kim> THE DYE WILL FLY EVERYWHERE!
[the logger was dropped momentarily here]
<Kim> THAT IS, PICK UP THE SHEET ON THE TOP AND PLACE IT ON THE BOTTOM
<Kim> AND KEEP DOING THAT
<Kim> THE IDEA IS THAT YOU ARE MIXING THE COLORS AROUND SO THAT YOU GET MULTI-COLORED SHEETS
<Kim> YOU CAN ALSO FOLD THE PAPER IN HALF
<Kim> THIS HELPS TO MIX THE COLORS AS WELL. STACK THE FOLDED SHEETS.
<Kim> YOU CAN SEE A LINE DOWN THE CENTER OF SOME OF MY PAPERS WHERE I'VE DONE THIS
<Kim> GEE, YOU ARE ALL SO QUIET. ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR?
<cak> about how much dye do you use per squirt?
<MagiStmpr> This is a great technique.
<labelle> do you use the dye straight from the bottle?
<Kim> I'D SAY ABOUT 3 OR 4 DROPS BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF YOUR PAPER
<keribou> you srat with dry paper?
<Kim> I AM TEARING A 22 X 30 SHEET INTO FOURS
<Kim> NO, THE PAPER SHOULD BE WET. I USUALLY RUN IT UNDER THE FAUCET, THEN LAY IT IN THE PAN.
<cak> Have you tried using dye reinkers?
<Kim> NO, FOOD COLORING IS CHEAP AND YOU GET IT AT THE GROCERY STORE
<cak> and probably as light fast as the dye reinkers anyway
<Kim> THIS PAPER IS PRETTY GOOD ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T STORED IT IN A SUNNY WINDOW
<Kim> I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT IS NONTOXIC
<Kim> I WORK WITH SO MANY TOXIC THINGS, IT'S NICE NOT TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT FOR A CHANGE
<cak> that's always a plus in my book
<cak> Earlier you mentioned to be aware of the color wheel when you applied the colors--just to make sure you don't have complementary colors next to each other?
<Kim> SO YOU JUST BASICALLY MANIPULATE THE PAPERS UNTIL THE COLORS ARE MIXED TO YOUR SATISFACTION
<Kim> WELL IN THE FOOD DYE YOU GET THESE COLORS, YELLOW, RED, BLUE AND GREEN
<Kim> THE ONLY REAL NO NO IS RED AND GREEN WHICH MAKES A YUCKY BROWN
<Kim> I USUALLY START WITH YELLOW
<Kim> BUT JUST MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE RED AFTER GREEN OR GREEN AFTER RED
<cak> gotcha, thanks
<Kim> YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS WHEN YOU ARE MANIPULATING THE PAPERS
<Kim> JUST WHEN YOU INITIALLY APPLY THE INK
<Kim> WHEN THEY'RE MIXED TO YOUR SATISFACTION, SET THEM ASIDE TO DRY
<cak> So the flipping of the stack and then you "shuffle" the papers? (I got dropped for a bit right there)
<Kim> YES
<cak> thanks
<Kim> BUT DON'T OVERDO IT OR THE COLORS WILL BE MUDDY
<Kim> YOU CAN DO SOME INTERESTING THINGS TO THE PAPERS AS THEY ARE DRYING
<cak> do you usually dry them in a stack or laid out unstacked?
<Kim> IF I PUT THEM IN THE OVEN, WHICH I USUALLY DO, YOU CAN STACK THEM
<Kim> OTHERWISE, LAY THEM OUT IN A SINGLE LAYER
<LindaR> does the color bleend through from sheet 1 to sheet 2? is that part of the process?
<Kim> YES, THE COLOR MIGHT BLEED BUT THAT'S USUALLY GOOD
<Kim> I STACK THEM IF I COME ACROSS A SHEET THAT ISN'T REALLY THAT MIXED
<Kim> SO IT CAN GET SOME MORE COLOR ON IT.
<Kim> THE COLOR STOPS MIGRATING WHEN THE PAPER IS DRY
<Kim> THIS WORKS GREAT FOR TAGS AND LIBRARY POCKETS TOO
<LindaR> is the front and back of the sheet colored?
<Kim> IF YOU DRY THIS ON A RACK, THE PAPER WILL PICK UP THE GRID FROM THE RACK
<Kim> YES, BOTH SIDES ARE COLORED MAKING THEM GREAT TO USE FOR BOOKS
<LindaR> great, that's what I was hopeing. i can see a journal made from this
<Kim> IF YOU ARE IMPATIENT LIKE ME, YOU CAN SET YOUR OVEN TO THE LOWEST TEMPERATURE
<Kim> http://www.animadesigns.com/projects/foodcoloringout/index.htm
<Kim> THEN EITHER LAY THE PAPER ON A COOKIE SHEET (THIS IS NONTOXIC)
<Kim> OR DIRECTLY ON YOUR OVEN RACKS
<Kim> MY OVEN'S LOWEST TEMPERATURE IS 175
<kristi> Can you sprinkle the large grain salt and get spots like with watercolors?
<Kim> I HAVEN'T TRIED IT YET
<kristi> ok
<Kim> YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT THE SALT ON BEFORE THE DYE, THOUGH
<LindaR> interesting idea, i think i've got some of that large grain stuff
<Kim> DEPENDING ON THE PAPER THAT YOU USE, THE DYE SINKS IN PRETTY QUICKLY
<Vyx> argh... we are already drying it, I missed all the important stuff.
<Kim> WATERCOLOR IS STILL KIND OF ON THE SURFACE OF THE PAPER
<Kim> I HAVE COMPLETE INSTRUCTIONS HERE
<Kim> http://www.animadesigns.com/projects/foodcoloringout/index.htm
<Vyx> Oh, thank you Kim!
<Kim> YOU'RE WELCOME
<Kim> THIS PAPER AND TAGS, ETC. MAKES A GREAT BACKGROUND FOR STAMPING
<Kim> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DRYING PROCESS?
<cak> you were saying you could do interesting things (intriguing phrase) with the papers while they dry--what kinds of things?
<keribou> do they buckle as they dry?
<Vyx> Would a wooden clothes dryer rack be any good? to hang the paper on? Or does it need to stay flat?
<Kim> LAYING THEM ON SOMETHING THAT HAS A TEXTURE AND THE TEXTURE WILL BE PICKED UP
<Kim> THE DRYER RACK WOULD BE OKAY.
<Kim> YOUR PAPER MAY HAVE LINES IN IT WHERE THE WOOD POLES ARE
<cak> So they usually aren't wet enough to encourage dye migration on the rack?
<kristi> would you need to protect the floor or would the dye no longer drip?
<C_Lion> i have a couple old window screens for paper drying
<Kim> MY RACK HAS A VARNISH ON IT BUT IF YOURS DOESN'T THE RACK WILL BE DYED
<Kim> WINDOW SCREENS ARE PERFECT
<Kim> A FRIEND DRIED HERS OUTSIDE ON A BRICK WALL AND THE TEXURE OF THE WALL WAS PICKED UP
<Kim> ON THE UNDERSIDE
<C_Lion> as long as they have the plastic screen not the metal]
<Kim> I WOULD USE METAL ALSO
<Kim> IN FACT, I HAVE THESE OLD RUSTY COOKIE SHEETS THAT ARE MY FAVORITE THING TO DRY STUFF IN
<C_Lion> do not pick up the rust?
<Kim> TAGS, ETC. PICK UP SOME OF THE RUST FROM THE SHEETS
<Vyx> Yeah, finally a use for those old icky rusty cookie sheets
<cak> can you encourage "texturizing" by pressing it down on the texture surface?
<Kim> YES, BUT THAT MAKES IT MORE INTERESTING
<Kim> I HAVEN'T TRIED THAT
<C_Lion> ahhh, i am usually marbling and do not want rust
<cak> (I was thinking the screen texture would be nice)
<Kim> I THINK IT WOULD WORK AS LONG AS THE TEXTURE ISN'T TOO FINE
<Kim> IF YOU HAD A REALLY FINE SCREEN, IT MAY NOT WORK
<cak> makes sense
<Kim> MY PAPER GETS THE GRID FROM THE OVEN RACKS AND I LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS
<Kim> http://www.animadesigns.com/projects/foodcoloringout/pages/fc9l.htm
<Kim> TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SAMPLE--THIS IS VERY SUBTLE THOUGH
<C_Lion> but those plastic grids for big florescent lights would be cool
<Kim> YES, THEY WOULD
<cak> you were saying you could do interesting things with the papers while they dry--what kinds of things so you like to do besides the adding of texture?
<Kim> THAT'S BASICALLY IT, ADDING TEXTURE
<cak> that's enough!
<Kim> ALL KINDS OF TEXTURES, LET YOUR IMAGINATION BE YOUR GUIDE
<Kim> IF YOU'RE READY TO MOVE ON, I CAN SHOW YOU A LIBRARY POCKET BOOK
<Kim> MADE WITH FOOD COLORING DYED LIBRARY POCKETS
<LindaR> can i ask a question?
<Kim> YES
<LindaR> in fc9a you say flip tha stack over. are you now going to add dye drops to the other side of the paper?
<Kim> YES, BECAUSE REMEMBER YOU JUST ADDED ONE COLOR PER SHEET THE FIRST TIME
<LindaR> so you put some colors on side a and some on side b
<Kim> ALTHOUGH I HAVE ALSO DONE IT WITH MORE THAN ONE COLOR AT A TIME
<Kim> YES
<LindaR> ok, ty
<Kim> AND THEN YOU MANIPULATE THEM TO MIX THE COLORS EVEN MORE
<Kim> THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE FINAL PAPER WILL DEPEND UPON THE PAPER THAT YOU USE
<cak> (no wonder you cut the parent sheets down!)
<Kim> RIVES LOOKS BRIGHT WHEN WET BUT IT REALLY IS MORE MUTED WHEN DRY
<Kim> YES, YOU WANT THE PAPER TO BE A SIZE THAT ISN'T UNWIELDY TO MANIPULATE
<Kim> I DON'T HAVE A PAN BIG ENOUGH FOR PARENT SHEETS!!!
<cak> (or arms either I suspect. I know I don't)
<Kim> AND I WOULD NEED A PARTNER TO HELP ME TURN THE SHEETS
<Kim> I DO HAVE ARMS
<cak> lol
<Kim> BUT THEY'RE NOT THAT LONG
<Kim> READY TO SEE THE BOOK?
<cak> yep
<stampink> can
<stampink> oops, can't wait
<Kim> http://www.animadesigns.com/librarypocketbook/librarypocketbook.htm
<Kim> GO HERE
<Kim> http://www.animadesigns.com/librarypocketbook/librarypocketbook.htm
<cak> tres cool Kim
<LindaR> ohhhhh, kewl
<Kim> FOR THE STEP BY STEP GO HERE
<Kim> http://www.animadesigns.com/librarypocketbook/stepbystep.htm
<Kim> THERE ARE MORE PICTURES ON THIS ONE
<Kim> THE DYEING PROCESS IS THE SAME FOR THE POCKETS
<Kim> I USUALLY HAVE LITTLE STACKS OF THEM IN MY TRAY
<Kim> THAT I SHUFFLE AND FLIP AROUND
<Kim> DID YOU GET THE SECOND URL WITH THE PICTURES
<LindaR> yes, i'm there
<MagiStmpr> yep
<cak> yep, we're just engrossed in them
<Kim> IT WAS HARD TAKING THE PHOTOS WHILE HOLDING THE BOOK IN THE OTHER HAND, LOL
<cak> lol (and you said your arms weren't that long--)
<Vyx> Wow!
<cak> I love the fact that this is non-sewn *and* non-adhesive. Not too many bindings you can say that about
<Vyx> Can you actually buy those pocket thingies? Or do you have to know someone who works at the library? :)
<Kim> YES I SELL THEM.
<Kim> PACK OF 10 FOR $1.00
<Kim> THE GREAT THING IS THAT YOU CAN CUT HOLES IN THE POCKETS AND INSERT STUFF
<cak> very nice! with the computers you don't see very many of them
<Kim> EMBELLISH TO YOUR HEARTS CONTENT
<LindaR> i use them in altered books, they're a great addition
<Kim> I'VE ADDED ONE OF THESE LITTLE LIBRARY POCKET BOOKS TO AN ALTERED BOOK
<Kim> THEY ARE SIMPLE TO MAKE
<Kim> YOU CAN ADD DECORATIVE FIBERS TO THEM ALSO
<cak> but very handy
<Kim> YES VERY
<LindaR> looks like your sample used 10 pockets, so they are a good value too.
<Kim> YOU CAN MAKE THEM ANY SIZE YOU WANT TO.
<Kim> I'VE MADE THEM WITH FAR FEWER POCKETS SOMETIMES
<Kim> YOU COULD ALSO SEW A LITTLE BOOK IN THE FOLD
<Kim> AND USE THESE AS THE "COVERS"
<Kim> THEY COME PLAIN AND WITH THE LINES
<Kim> YOU COULD ALSO ADD POPUPS TO THE FOLDS
<cak> I was just pondering that Kim--pop-ups
<Kim> THEY MAKE A REALLY CUTE BOOK
<Kim> YOU CAN TUCK ALL SORTS OF THINGS INTO THE POCKETS, TOO
<Kim> FORTUNES, LITTLE NOTES, ETC.
<Kim> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
<Seesa> Nope it looks great!
<Vyx> Is it better to oven dry the paper, for heat setting the dye?
<cak> I could see telling the story of a relationship with this, tucking in ephemera and writing on the pages you bind in betweenthe pockets
<Kim> OVEN DRYING IS NOT REQUIRED. ONCE THE PAPER DRIES, THE DYE IS "IN THERE"
<Kim> YOU MAY WANT TO IRON IT IF THE PAPER ISN'T FLAT ENOUGH FOR YOUR TASTE
<Kim> AFTER IT'S DRY
<Kim> I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SHOW YOU
<LindaR> i've got a new box of dye and just found some old watercolor paper, i'm ready to give this a try
<Kim> GO FOR IT!
<Kim> LET ME KNOW HOW IT TURNS OUT!
<LindaR> will do!
<Kim> THE FINAL THING IS A PROJECT I'M WORKING ON -- IT'S NOT FINISHED
<LindaR> ohhh, a sneak peak
<cak brightens with anticipation
<Kim> BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU A FOOD COLORING DYED TAG THAT I'VE STAMPED ON WITH DUOTONES
<Kim> http://www.animadesigns.com/faith.jpg
<Kim> GO HERE
<Kim> http://www.animadesigns.com/faith.jpg
<Kim> HI LUNI, WE'RE JUST FINISHING UP
<LuniLadi> Hi Kim!...
<LuniLadi> drat...just got home from work :(
<cak> Very cool Kim! Thanks for letting us sneak a peek!
<Kim> COMPLETE INSTRUCTIONS ARE ON MY WEBSITE
<LuniLadi> ty
<Kim> AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS
<Kim> THE FAITH PIECES USES FRESCO INKS ON A DYED TAG
<labelle> Wow, that faith is simply awesome -
<Kim> THANKS
<Seesa> Ohh yeah thats beautiful
<Kim> THANKS!
<labelle> what is the container?
<LindaR> finally came up. vrey nice kim, can't wait to see the completed piece
<Kim> A LITTLE SHALLOW BOX THAT I FOUND AT A THRIFT STORE
<Kim> FOR $1.00
<labelle> It is perfect!
<Kim> IT'S JUST A TAD DEEPER THAN A FRAME
<LindaR> thanks kim, great class and fantastic instructions
<Kim> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PAPER DYEING OR THE POCKET BOOK?
<Kim> THANKS, LINDA
<Seesa> Nope it looks fairly easy and something even i can try
<cak> I might after I actually do this! Will you be teaching this again sometime?
<labelle> I'm sure I will, but can't think of them now, but will email you if I run into a "snag"
<Kim> FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME
<Kim> BUT I'M SURE YOU WON'T HAVE PROBLEMS
<labelle> ha ha
<Kim> NO PLAN TO TEACH THIS AGAIN SOON
<Kim> BUT THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE ON MY WEBSITE
<Kim> WWW.ANIMADESIGNS.COM
<Kim> FOLLOW THE LINKS FOR PROJECTS
<Kim> THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THERE TOO!
<Vyx> Thanks for a great class, Kim! Sorry I was so late!
<cak> I guess we'll just have to bug you individually then! (but it does seem nice and straightforward)
<Kim> THANK YOU ALL, YOU'VE BEEN GREAT BUT SO QUIET!
<labelle> awed
<Seesa> Thanks Kim I learned something Cool to try (and somewhat messy which is always fun)
<Kim> MORE LIKE BEATEN INTO SUBMISSION
<Kim> IT CAN BE MESSY
<Sandy> Love your classes
<Kim> TY
<stampink> Thanks so much
<LuniLadi> funny, that's what everyone says when we're being "good"...lol
<LindaR> bye
<Kim> BYE
<Seesa> Yep abd we be bad and get whacked upside the head ;.
<Kim> ISN'T THAT ALWAYS THE WAY
<cak> Thank you Kim--you need to teach us some more!
<LuniLadi> only if deb's around...lol
<LuniLadi> she's not, is she? rofl
<Seesa> Ok time for next class see ya all there
<Kim> I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW ANY MORE TO TEACH YA!
<cak> See you there
<Kim> BYE AND THANKS!
Log file closed at 6/27/02 6:04:47 PM