<Janet> howdy!

<cak> we're *just* finishing up in the next room

<AmyLPR> hi Janet

<Janet> no hurry. I had a couple unexpected glitches in my day and my samples are about an hour from dry

<Janet> but this is really more of a discuss the possibilities class so once I explain my globe, it will be cool

<cak> Well, it'll be a good exercise for our imaginations (and your descriptive powers)

<AmyLPR> did you include clowns Janet?

<glitrbug> Are you back from the convention?

<Janet> Amy, you'll love this, I DID include clowns!

<AmyLPR> yeah

<Janet> I am back, what I forgot about was a dentist appointment today

<cak> this would certainly lend itself to clowns!

<glitrbug> Yech!

<AmyLPR> <8o)

<Seesa> Dentist never fun

<cak> (it's never anything fun, is it?)

<Janet> I think the novacaine knocks me out later

<Janet> so I passed out when I got home and woke up about an hour too late to have dry enough to scan samples for right now

<Janet> i'll have 'em later in the evening, so stick with us all evening

<glitrbug> like we wouldn't

<Janet> LOL

<glitrbug> lol

<Janet> is the other event over now?

<Janet> should I start?

<AmyLPR> please do

<stampink> yes

<cak> There's lots to stick around for (and your samples are worth waiting for I know)

<Vyx> it's been over

<Janet> Okay!

<Janet> I'LL EVEN PUT ON THE CAPS

<anno> stick 'em in the oven, they'll dry..

cak shudders at the mention of caps and dentists on the same page

<Janet> CONCEPT HERE IS, WELL, YOU KNOW THOSE CLEAR PLASTIC BALLS YOU CAN BUY, THAT SCREW IN HALF THAT YOU CAN FILL WITH STUFF?

<Janet> LOL

<Seesa> 250 for about 20 minutes, baste slowly

<cak> yes!

<crowfafk> screw-balls?

<Janet> YEAH. SCREW BALLS

<cak> (lol crow--that's *us*)

<crowfafk> <g>

<Janet> OH WAIT, SCREW BALL, I THINK THAT'S THE TEACHER

<AmyLPR> lol

<christiesobsession> have we started yet?

<Janet> ANYWAY, YOU CAN GET THESE YEAR ROUND, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE EASIER TO FIND AT CHRISTMAS

<Janet> JUST BARELY, CHRISTIE

<Mare> Can you buy these at a regular craft store

<christiesobsession> good, just in time, thanks

<Janet> CLEAR PLASTIC BALLS, GET 'EM AT THE CRAFT STORE

<AmyLPR> i've never seen 'em in canada

<AmyLPR> :(

<Janet> THE BIG ONES RUN ABOUT $1-$1.50 PER, BUT YOU CAN MAKE TWO CARDS OUT OF ONE, WE JUST USE HALF ON EACH

<Janet> AT BOTH OF MY CRAFT STORES, THEY'RE DOWN THE AISLE FROM THE PAPER MACHE STUFF

<Mare> great, thanks

<christiesobsession> must be talking about plastic globes?

<Mare> is there a site to see these?

<Janet> MY CIRCUS STAMPLES (CIRCUSTAMPS OF COURSE) I WANTED TO GIVE THE ILLUSION OF MY JUGGLING CLOWN LOSING CONTROL OF HIS JUGGLE BALLS...

<Janet> AND MY CIRCUS DOG READY TO POUNCE ON THE FIRST ONE THAT DROPPED

<Janet> AND I WANTED MY CIRCUS TENT TO LOOK LIKE IT WAS WAY ABOVE AS A BACKGROUND

<Janet> SO I WANTED A 3-D LOOK

<Kim> a clown losing control of his balls? oh my!

<MagiStmpr> lol

AmyLPR hits Kim in the face with a big cream pie

<Janet> NOT YET, MARE, WILL BE WITHIN AN HOUR OR SO AFTER CLASS

<sweetp> lol! - my mind is spinning!

<Janet> LOL KIM, AND AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT REARRANGING DENTAL BODY PARTS, TOO

<AmyLPR> lol

<Kim> i missed that part!

<Janet> MY DENTIST WOULDN'T GIVE ME A HAPPY TOOTH STICKER

<Kim> i hope the pie is coconut cream

<Janet> I THREATENED TO REARRANGE THE BODY PARTS CLOSEST TO ME, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN AND I KNOW YOU DO

<Janet> ANYWAY...

<Janet> TO CREATE THE ILLUSION OF 3-D WITHIN THIS GLOBE, TO MAKE THESE JUGGLE BALLS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE FLOATING IN THE AIR...

<Janet> I STAMPED AND THEN CUT OUT THE PIECES...

<Janet> AND GLUED THEM TO A PIECE OF ACETATE

<Janet> (I USE THE CHEAP TRANSPARENCIES AT THE OFFICE SUPPLY STORE)

<Kim> could you stamp them on acetate?

<Janet> YES, YOU SURE COULD!

<Janet> (I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT)

<Seesa> Blame it on that evil dentist!

<Kim> do you want them to be see through?

<Janet> THEN YOU CUT THE ACETATE IN A CIRCLE SMALLER THAN YOUR HALF-BALL AND STICK THAT INSIDE

<Janet> AND SECURE IT WITH A DROP OF E6000 OR OTHER DRIES-CLEAR GLUE ON THE SIDE

<Janet> DEPENDS. I WANTED MY CLOWN AND OBJECTS TO BE OPAQUE, SO I STAMPED THEM ON WATERCOLOR PAPER (SO'S I COULD PAINT THEM TOO)

<Janet> THEN I CUT THEM OUT AND PLAYED AROUND WITH WHERE ON THE ACETATE I WANTED THEM TO BE

<Janet> DOES THIS MAKE SENSE?

<Seesa> yep it does

<Janet> GOOD

<cak> yep!

<Kim> i think i'm still stuck on the body parts moving around

<cak> (I was just looking for Circustamps so I could see what stamps you were using)

<Janet> THE BALLS I GOT WERE 100MM SO I CUT ONE OF MY CIRCLES ABOUT 80 MM (NOT LIKE I MEASURED IT) AND THE OTHER A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THAT

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> OH! http://www.cyberstampers.com/convention/circustamps/

<cak> thanks!

<Janet> I USED THE JUGGLING CLOWN, THERE ARE SEVERAL, I USED THE ONE THAT IS JUGGLING BALLS AND AN APPLE

<cak> thank you!

<Janet> THERE'S ALSO ONE THAT IS JUGGLING BOWLING PINS, I LIKE THAT ONE, TOO, AND YOU CAN MIX 'EM UP, SO THE CLOWN WITH THE BALLS COULD ALSO JUGGLE THE PINS

<Janet> THESE ARE ALL MADE TO MIX AND MATCH AND MAKE DIFFERENT SCENES

<Janet> BUT I WANTED THAT APPLE SO IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT THE DOG WAS CROUCHED DOWN WAITING FOR THAT TO GET AWAY FROM THE CLOWN SO HE COULD SNATCH IT AND RUN

<Janet> ANYWAY, BECAUSE I GLUED MY ELEMENTS ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT PIECES OF ACETATE CUT AT DIFFERENT SIZED CIRCLES, WHEN I DROPPED THESE INTO MY HALF OF BALL, I'VE GOT 3-D

<AmyLPR> cool

<Janet> AND THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE FLOATING RIGHT IN THE AIR

<cak> was it difficult to get them all so the ground was on the bottom of the globe? (mine'd be cattywumpus)

<Janet> NOW HERE'S THE DISCUSSION PART OF THE CLASS... THERE ARE A LOT OF STAMPS, NOT JUST CIRCUS ONES, THAT THIS WOULD WORK WELL WITH... WHAT DO YOU OWN (OR HAVE ORDERED) THAT WOULD BE COOL?

<Janet> UHHHH MY CLOWN ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE HE'S FLOATING

<Janet> SO DOES THE DOG

<cak> I guess I mean so that everyone's feet are pointing in the same direction

<AmyLPR> a 3-d pie fight :)

<Janet> I WAS THINKING I MIGHT WANT TO PAINT SOME GROUND AND PUT THAT ON THE SMALLEST YET CIRCLE OF ACETATE SO IT WILL HIDE THAT THEIR FEET DON'T TOUCH THE GROUND

<Janet> YEAH! PIE FIGHT WOULD BE GOOD

<Janet> I FIRST DID THIS WITH BUTTERFLIES FLOATING ABOUT A SKY BACKGROUND

<Seesa> Birds

<Janet> OH YES! BIRDS!

<Janet> I WAS THINKING THE BEAR RUBBER SOUTHWESTERN SCENES AS THE BACKGROUND AND THAT CUTE LIL BUNS N BOOTS FIGURE IN THE FOREGROUND

<cak> any kind of landscape, of course (obvious, but let's get it out of the way)

<Janet> OR CUT UP CACTUS FOR FOREGROUND TOO

<Seesa> ohh that would look cool

<Christelle> Since I was late, may I ask if there is a picture of this somewhere?

<AmyLPR> an underwater scene would be neat

<Janet> CHRISTELLE (OUR NEWEST MALL VENDOR YAY!) ... NOT YET, I SCREWED MY TIME FLOW, IT WILL BE ABOUT AN HOUR

<Janet> VERY NEAT!

<Seesa> Hi Christelle!

<Janet> AND YOU CAN PUT CONFETTI OR THE EASTER GRASS STUFF IN THERE, TOO

<Janet> LIKE YOUR IMAGES ARE PEEKING THROUGH GRASS

<Seesa> Janet Janet it wasnt you, it was the DENTISTS fault

<Christelle> Hi!

<Janet> RIGHT! IT WAS THE DENTIST'S FAULT!

<Janet> (IT WAS MINE<G> I COULD HAVE FINISHED THESE WEEKS AGO)

<cak> jungle stuff would be fun--you could go crazy with the stamping

<Janet> (SHHHHH WE WON'T THINK ABOUT THAT<G>)

<Christelle> Ok... thanks...

<Janet> OH YES, THAT WOULD BE A BLAST

<Seesa> Hmmm how about stamping a scene on shrink plastic, shrinking it and mounting it the way you do acetate? too think?

<Janet> OR HOW ABOUT THE GEOMETRIC DESIGNS, AND STAMP THOSE SEVERAL TIMES AND PUT PIECES OF THEM ON ACETATE ABOVE THE WHOLE THING, SO PIECES WERE POPPING OUT?

<Janet> I THINK THAT WOULD BE COOL, SEESA, ALTHOUGH IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE TRANSPARENT AS THE ACETATE IS

<cak> I could also see doing a flat scene on the background card and putting transparent/translucent layers of (something) in front to obscure without totally hiding. Good for a secret?

<Janet> THAT WOULD BE FUN.

<AmyLPR> a beach scene with real sand on the bottom

<Janet> OH YES!

<Janet> I KNOW A SECRET ABOUT PUTTING SAND ON A CARD,. TOO

<Marion> A garden with a gazebo at the back or a bridge in the scene

<Janet> WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BUT i JUST THOUGHT OF IT

<cak> tell--no fair announcing you have one and then not telling

<Janet> THAT WOULD BE LOVELY, MARION

<cak> oh yes Marion!

<Seesa> Tell that secret!

<Janet> OH. IF YOU WANT TO PUT REAL SAND ON A CARD, LIKE A BEACH SCENE?

<cak> yes??????

<Janet> MIX IT WITH CLEAR EP AND USE IT LIKE EP, THE EP TRAPS THE SAND ON THE CARD

<cak> oh! cool!

<Marion> Great idea. I usually just glue it and that's a mess.

<Seesa> Ohhh wow what a cool idea, now I need to find some sand

<Janet> IF YOU WANT TO BUILD UP A THICKER BEACH, YOU CAN DO THE CLEAR EP OR UTEE FIRST, THEN SPRINKLE SAND ON IT WHILE IT'S STILL HOT, THEN REHEAT WITH MORE EP, LIKE A SAND SAMMICH

<cak> perfect!

<cak> as an alternative to the obscuring theme--how about stamping an interior,then putting a wall with a window in front of it?

<Janet> IN FACT, I COULD FIND SOME SAWDUST AND MAKE ME A FLOOR FOR MY CIRCUS SCENE DOING THAT

<cak> oh yes! that would be just the right touch

<Janet> OH! THAT WOULD BE COOL. LIKE THOSE SUGAR EASTER EGGS WITH THE SCENE INSIDE!

<cak> yes! or stamp an outdoor scene so you're inside looking out

<Janet> OR DO AN INTERIOR SCENE, THEN THE WINDOW AND WALL AND MAYBE A TREE AS FOREGROUND

<Janet> THIS WOULD BE LOTS OF FUN

<cak> yes!

<Janet> IT'S LIKE LAYERING WITH IMAGES AND THE ACETATE MAKES IT ALL TRANSPARENT SO THE IMAGES ARE FLOATING. AND THE GLOBE KEEPS THEM SEPARATE

<anno> I wanna see the pictures SO bad..

<Janet> I FIND THE HARDEST PART IS THE BASE.

<Janet> I USUALLY MOUNT MY GLOBE INTO A PIECE OF FOAM CORE

<cak> the background layer?

<Janet> NO, THE SQUARE PART IF I DON'T WANT TO JUST END UP WITH THE GLOBE

<Janet> I HAVE INFERIOR SCISSOR SKILLS AND CUTTING FOAM CORE I FIND HARD, IT JUST LOOKS RAGGY

<cak> Ah yes, that would be difficult--to not have it part of the scene, but have it part of the "card"

<Janet> BUT!

<Janet> I HAVE A FIX!

<cak> (and I have tip from Carol Duvall that works well)

<Janet> I CAN CUT PAPER USUALLY JUST FINE, SO I MAKE MY "CARD PART" ON PAPER, CUT MY HOLE OUTTA THE FOAM CORE, THEN OUT OF THE PAPER, AND GLUE THE PAPER TO THE FOAM CORE, THEN SMOOSH THE GLOBE INTO THAT

<Janet> WHAT'S MIZ CAROL'S TIP?

<cak> cut each "line" 3 times. First cut only goes through the top layer of card, 2d through the foam and 3d through the bottom card

<cak> it really does work

<Janet> OHHHHH I GOTTA TRY THAT NOW

<cak> (even with crappy blades--I've tried it)

<Janet> I'M PRETTY FOAM-CORE-IMPAIRED

<Janet> MY EVO TEMPLATE WORKS GREAT FOR CUTTING THE CIRCLES, BUT I STILL HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT FOAM CORE

<Vyx> Thanks for class, Janet, I've gotta go now.

<Vyx> y'all have a good evening!

<stampink> Me, too. Loved the class

<Janet> (LUV THOSE TEMPLATES, THEY ARE STEPPED IN SIZE JUST RIGHT)

<cak> Stealing Seesa's idea. I wonder if you could use clear shrink plastic, punch holes, put several layers in with some ball bearings and make a game out of it?

<Janet> TAKE CARE, VYX. BY THE TIME YOU GET BACK, I'LL HAVE SAMPLES<G>

<stampink> Have to take my child somewhere. Bye

<Janet> OH! THAT WOULD BE FUN!

<cak> (she musta had to go real bad)

<Janet> SUPPER WAS SERVED, I BET

<cak> LOL

<cak> in multiple places!

<Janet> LOL

<Seesa> I have yet to even THINK about whats for dinner

<Janet> BEFORE WE GO TOO AWFULLY FAR AFIELD, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

<cak> do you just spot glue the layers of acetate in?

<Janet> YEP

<AmyLPR> maybe you could use fun foam instead of foam core

<Janet> YOU REALLY JUST HAVE TO DO A SPOT ON EACH SIDE AND IT WILL STAY

<cak> cool

<Janet> OH! I ACTUALLY DID DO ONE WITH FUN FOAM (LOTS EASIER TO CUT)

<Janet> THAT I MIGHT CAN FIND FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK AT

<cak> hmmmm, some dries clear type glue might be nice as part of a layer in Amy's underwater scene

<cak> yay

<cak> (put it on to "wavy" up the scene)

<Janet> see what's at http://dm.net/~janet/marvincard.jpg

<cak> thanks Janet!

<Kanga> nice!

<kat> very nice

<AmyLPR> neat

<Janet> OH YEAH, THIS IS A GLOBE CARD, A VERY BAD IMAGE BUT IT WAS A VERY COOL CARD

<Janet> MARVIN WAS SORT OF LOOMING OVER THE EARTH<G>

<cak> TB gets the coolest BD cards

<Kanga> could you recap the instructions (sorry I was late)

<Janet> SURE!

<Kanga> ty

<Janet> YOU STAMP IMAGES THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE A 3-D SCENE OF, MOUNT THOSE ON ACETATE AND INSIDE ONE OF THOSE PLASTIC BALLS THAT SCREW IN HALF

<Janet> JUST USE HALF, TO MAKE SORT OF A DOME

<Janet> THAT'S THE SHORT VERSION

<Janet> BUT KANGA, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

<Kanga> yes. what kind of ball?

<Kanga> how big of a ball

<Janet> IN THE MARVIN CARD, THE EARTH WAS ON THE BIGGER CIRCLE OF ACETATE AND THE MARVIN WAS CUT OUT AND ON THE SMALLER CIRCLE.

<Janet> THESE ARE ABOUT 5" WIDE, I THINK THEY'RE LISTED ON THE TAG AS 100MM

<Janet> YOU CAN FIND 'EM AT ANY CRAFT STORE, IN MINE THEY'RE DOWN THE AISLE FROM THE PAPER MACHE

<Kanga> ok

<cindyc> url?

<cindyc> oh

<Janet> CINDY, MY MAIN SAMPLES AREN'T DRY ENOUGH TO SCAN (LONG DENTAL STORY) BUT THERE'S A BAD SCAN OF A DIFFERENT CARD DONE THE SAME WAY AT http://dm.net/~janet/marvincard.jpg

<cak> Janet, did you put some dries clear glue on/in the globe and sprinkle with glitter? (Marvin card)

<cindyc> okiedokie

<Janet> LOL YES, I DID. I HADN'T PLANNED TO, BUT THIS ONE WAS MOUNTED IN FUN FOAM...

<Janet> AND THE LITTLE BIT OF GLITTER I'D PLANNED TO USE GOT ALL OVER EVERYTHING

<cak> lol (glitter's like that, yes it is)

<Janet> SO I PUT MORE GLITTER ON EVERYTHING JUST SO IT WOULD LOOK LIKE I MEANT TO DO THAT

<Kanga> lol

<cak> it looks good to me--festive

<Janet> THE KEY IS TO KEEP A STRAIGHT FACE WHEN YOU SAY "I MEANT TO DO THAT"

<AmyLPR> lol

<Kanga> lol

<cak> lol You're askin' an awful lot of us

<Janet> IN FACT, I'M THINKING THAT EARTH WAS GLITTER GLUED TO THE BACK OF THE ACETATE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AIG STAINED GLASS CARDS

<cak> it does seem wonderfully sparkly

<Janet> SPARKLY DOESN'T SCAN VERY GOOD, BUT IT SURE IS FUN

<sparkle> that's 'cause she doesn't fit on the dingdang scanner!

<sparkle> ROFL

<Kanga> what kind of envelope do you use for this type of card? :)

<glitrbug> yes it is fun.

<Janet> AND THIS CARD WAS A HUGE HIT FOR MY MARVIN-FAN DAUGHTER

<cak> lol

<cindyc> i am sure you splained, but what is that circle from? i had a storm

<Janet> UHHH KANGA, IF YOU'RE MAILING IT, YOU USE A SMALL BOX<G>

<Kanga> k

<Janet> CINDY, IT'S CIRCLES, CUT SOMEWHAT SMALLER THAN THE DOME YOU'RE PUTTING THEM IN, SO THEY FLOAT UP INTO THE GLOBE

<cindyc> dome?

<Janet> AND IT'S CUT FROM ACETATE AKA LASER TRANSPARENCIES

<cindyc> okie

<Raven> so each image is on an acetate circle?

<Janet> EACH IMAGE OR IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE, EACH LAYER OF IMAGES

<Janet> THEN A LITTLE DRIES-CLEAR GLUE ON THE SIDE EDGE, JUST A DROP ON EACH SIDE IS ENOUGH TO HOLD IT

<Janet> AND IT'S INVISIBLE

<Janet> AND ALL YOU CAN SEE IS YOUR IMAGE(S) FLOATING ABOVE YOUR BACKGROUND

<cindyc> dome for scrapping?

<Janet> TONS OF FUN TO MAKE

<Raven> aha... that just answered my next question

<Janet> THE MARVIN CARD I PUT AN EASEL STAND THINGIE ON THE BACK, I KNEW MY DAUGHTER WAS GOING TO WANT IT STANDING UP ON HER DESK

<Janet> SORTA LIKE WE'D HAVE PICTURES OF OUR KIDS? SHE HAS A MARVIN CARD

<cak> OK, I love adhesives, but am adhesive-impaired. Do you drop the acetate in, then secure with glue. Or do you put a drop or 2 of glue on the acetate, then drop it in?

<cindyc> just marvy

<cak> lol, well you did say she loved Marvin

<cindyc> directions will be up with url yes???? hint

<Janet> I DROPPED THE ACETATE IN, THEN PUT MY GLUE ON THE END OF A TOOTHPICK AND PUT MY DROP IN THAT WAY

<cak> OK, that doesn't sound like I can get it smeared around toooo much that way. Thanks!

<Janet> AND WHEN YOU MOUNT THESE INTO WHATEVER YOU DO (FUN FOAM IS EASIER THAN FOAM CORE, I LIKE 'EM BOTH) YOU CAN RUN ALL SORTS OF THINGS AROUND THE DOME EDGE

<Christelle> gotta go... dd is home...

<Janet> LIKE BEADS OR CORDING OR WHATEVER, ANYTHING TO HIDE THE RAGGY EDGE (THAT MAYBE I WON'T GET NEXT TIME WITH THE CUT THREE TIMES TIP)

<Janet> SEE YOU LATER, CHRISTELLE

<Raven> are these plastic balls found with Christmas ornament stuff or are they around all year?

<Janet> THEY'RE AROUND ALL YEAR, THEY'RE USUALLY STUCK BACK WITH THE PAPER MACHE STUFF AT THE CRAFT STORE

<Janet> AND YOU CAN GET DIFFERENT SIZES

<Janet> I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE GIANT SIZE FOR THESE SAMPLES, MY FAVORITE CIRCUSTAMPS ARE THE ELEPHANTS AND TIGERS AND THOSE WERE TOO TALL TO GO IN THE SIZE I BOUGHT

<Janet> SO I DID CLOWNS INSTEAD

<AmyLPR> good, i love clowns

<Janet> ANY QUICK QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT EVENT?

<Kanga> thank you so much Janet! great class

<cindyc> when you sending me a sample to look at?

<glitrbug> nope sounds like fun

<Janet> LOL CINDY. MY MAILING SKILLS ARE LEGENDARY

<cindyc> can't blame a gal for trying....

<sparkle> cindy, don't hold your breath <G>

<Janet> LOL

<Seesa> Thanks Janet!

<cak> Yes, thank you! These look like so much fun!

<Kanga> yeah!

<Janet> THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING! WHEN I GET THE SAMPLE PAGE DONE, I'LL TELL IT

<Kanga> great

<MagiStmpr> thanks Janet.

cindyc remembers janet saying she owes her bigtime..... hahahahahahahaha

<Janet> next class in #craftclass (background magic)

<glitrbug> OK thanks for the class

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