<brenda> hello janeyt

<cak> Hiya Janet! things going better today? (I hope)

<Janet> yes, much. I was pretty snarly last night.

<Janet> I even have a class page ready before class.<>

<brenda> oh my?

<brenda> where?

<cak> lol!

<Janet> uhhhh

<cak> let's put the blame where it belongs--squarely on that dentist

<Janet> now i gotta look

<Janet> well I could have done last night's ahead of time, too. I think there are just too many demands on my time lately.

<Janet> is this where i'm supposed to be?

<kristi> yes

<brenda> yep

<cak> LOL--you're the fearless leader, where you go we will follow (up to a point)

<kristi> LOL

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> this dang page is still loading. i think i got carried away with the samples

<kristi> that's ok, we love samples :-)

<Janet> (and after all the things I made, only one of 'em is mine, cuz mine suck)

<kristi> so who did the others?

<Janet> my sister, she's incredibly talented with a needle

<cak> I bet they don't. I bet they just haven't had time to age (i.e., you haven't put them away so you can see 'em with a fresh eye)

<Janet> LOL

<kristi> that is an important part isn't it?

<cak> it sure is for me

<kristi> me too

<Janet> actually my one isn't terrible, but there is a definite difference in look, silk ribbon on brocade and organza ribbon on cardstock

<kristi> well, or course!

<Janet> but for most of us, we'll do organza on cardstock to embellish a card more often

<cak> well, they may be the same technique, but they really are different media

cak states the obvious

<Janet> I think my page has finally finished loading.

<brenda> url?

<Janet> might as well start it loading up on your ends

<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/janet/ribbon/

<cak> YaY!

<brenda> awesome

<cak> Is your sister going to be able to attend today?

<Janet> No, she's got to mind the store

<cak> What??!? She's not closing to be with us??? I mean, really--

<Janet> she did hassle me a little bit about this being in the afternoon instead of the evening. I pointed out to her that Janet teaching embroidery really isn't ready for prime time.

<Janet> (besides, if she was here I'd feel all the pressure)

<cak> lol

<kristi> lol

<Janet> OKAY. ARE WE READY?

Janet STARTS SHAKING IN HER BOOTS

<Janet> EXCEPT THAT IF I CAN DO THIS, ANYBODY CAN!

<cak> I love your stuff Janet (and hers too, but they're both fabulous)

<Janet> THAT ORGANZA RIBBON, THE WAY IT IS TRANSPARENT AND SPARKLY, I LOVE HOW IT LOOKS

<Janet> CAN EVERYBODY HERE GET TO THE CLASS PAGE?

<Janet> (IS EVERYBODY ASLEEP? OR LOOKING?)

<brenda> looking

<kat-afk> looking, they are beautiful

<Janet> AH OKAY. BECAUSE SOME OF MY STITCH DIAGRAMS MAY NOT BE AS CLEAR

<kat-afk> we are in awe

<Janet> I'M DEFINITELY IN AWE OF GAY'S STUFF

<Janet> BUT SEE MY ROSE AND LEAFS? YAY ME! THAT'S JUST ON REGULAR CARDSTOCK!

<Janet> AND I DO NEED SUPERVISION THREADING A NEEDLE

<miatagal> what do I have to do to see???

<Janet> CAN YOU LOOK AT A WEB PAGE AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE IN HERE?

<Janet> IF YOU CAN, GO TO http://cyberstampers.com/class/janet/ribbon/

<Janet> IF NOT THEN JUST REMEMBER IT TO GO TO LATER

<Janet> I NEED TO TELL YOU A BIT ABOUT THE SUPPLIES FIRST.

<brenda> k

<Janet> THE RIBBON IS THE NARROWER KIND. 1/4" ORGANZA

<Janet> OR 4mm SILK

<Janet> SILK IS DONE IN MMs

<Janet> OR YOU CAN VARY THE WIDTH OF YOUR RIBBON TO GET DIFFERENT EFFECTS FOR DIFFERENT SIZED PROJECTS

<brenda> so you could use pieces

<Janet> I USED THE WIDER (OOPS, GOING TO THE CLASS PAGE KNOCKED HER OUT OF HER) RIBBON THAT I SHOULD HAVE SCANNED...

<Janet> I WANTED TO ATTACH VELLUM TO A CARD, AND THAT'S ALWAYS A SORT OF HARD THING BECAUSE JUST EVERY KIND OF ADHESIVE SHOWS

<Janet> I (THIS WAS HARD) THREADED 5/8" ORGANZA RIBBON INTO MY BIGGEST CHENILLE NEEDLE AND JUST MADE FRENCH KNOTS ON THE CORNERS

<Janet> AND IT LOOKED PRETTY AWESOME

<brenda> yep

<Janet> I HAD TO FOLD THE RIBBON IN HALF TO GET IT THREADED AND THEN WORK WITH IT TO GET IT BACK SORT OF STRAIGHT IN THE NEEDLE, IT WAS STILL SORT OF GATHERED THROUGH THE EYE

<Janet> BUT IT WORKED!

<Janet> AND WAS FAST AND EASY

<Janet> (WE WAITED FOR YOU TO GET BACK IN)

<Janet> THE NEEDLE YOU WANT TO USE IS CALLED A CHENILLE NEEDLE, IT'S SHARP ON THE END BUT HAS A HUGE EYE

<miatagal> thank you

<Janet> AND THEY COME IN DIFFERENT SIZES, I BOUGHT A VARIETY PACK OF THEM

<brenda> even for us bad eyesite gals?

<Janet> BRENDA. HUGE. EVEN I CAN THREAD IT AND I NEED HELP READING MENUS

<brenda> k ty

<Janet> AND I'VE GIVEN UP THREADING ANY OTHER KIND OF NEEDLE

<brenda> k

<Janet> I HAD TO HAVE MY DAUGHTER THREAD THE NEEDLE I WAS USING THE CREWEL YARN IN

<Janet> THIS IS LIKE A QUARTER INCH LONG EYE

<Janet> IT'S LOVELY

<brenda> wow

<brenda> big

<Janet> TOLD YA. BIG!

<Janet> THE QUARTER INCH RIBBON GOES THROUGH THERE AND LAYS FLAT IN IT

<Janet> AND YOU CAN USE ANY KIND OF RIBBON YOU WANT, MOST OF THIS WAS DONE WITH THE QUARTER INCH ORGANZA RIBBON OR THE 4mm SILK RIBBON

<Janet> AND YOU CAN DO IT ON ANYTHING YOU WANT

<Janet> I WAS DOING MY STUFF ON CARDSTOCK, BECAUSE WHAT WOULD I DO WITH AN EMBROIDERED COLLAR? I DON'T SEW. I'M ALLERGIC TO THAT<>

<cak> that translucency and sparkle are hard to resist though

<Janet> I DO LOVE THE SPARKLE

<Janet> BUT THE SILK RIBBON IS GORGEOUS, TOO. GAY SENT ME THREE COLORS OF IT (AND MADE ME PAY FOR IT, NO FAMILY DISCOUNT WITH HER)

<Janet> THE ORGANZA HAS MORE BODY, I LIKED MY ROSES BETTER WITH IT. BUT THE LEAVES AND THE BUDS, THOSE WERE LOVELY IN THE SILK

<Janet> SILK COSTS A TON MORE THAN ORGANZA

<Janet> ORGANZA IS LIKE 20 CENTS A YARD FROM THE PAMPERED STAMPER

<Janet> THE SILK RIBBON COSTS LIKE $2 A YARD

<cak> so the organza stands up more from the surface than silk?

<Janet> I THINK GL KEEPSAKES HAS A SILK RIBBON GRAB BAG ON SPECIAL FOR $10 FOR 15 YARDS OF IT

<Janet> IT DID FOR ME

<Janet> BUT THE SILK DRAPED ON THE ROSES AND BUDS SO NICELY

<Janet> ONE OF GAY'S SAMPLES IS DONE WITH GROGRAIN? RIBBON.

<Janet> I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS SPELLED, BUT IT'S THE KIND WITH THE RIBS THAT OUR MOMS ALWAYS USED IN OUR HAIR

<cak> it's got little "ribs" in it==and it's cheap

<cak> (or used to be)

<kristi> grosgrain

<kristi> :-)

<Janet> CHEAP IS GOOD. IT'S NOT AS CHEAP AS THE ORGANZA RIBBON, BUT IT'S CLOSER TO THAT THAN THE SILK

<Janet> THANK YOU, KRISTI

<kristi> no prob

<kristi> just looked it up yesterday, LOL

<kristi> need the Italian of it, which is the same :-)

<Janet> AND YOU'LL SEE ON SOME OF THE SAMPLES THAT SOME OF THE DETAILING WAS DONE WITH CREWEL YARN

<cak> the organza is cheaper??!! Wow! (i'm a happy camper)

<Janet> IT'S 20 CENTS A YARD FOR THE QUARTER INCH, OR 25 CENTS A YARD FOR THE WIDE STUFF.

<Janet> OH!

<Janet> DUH. AND PAMPERED STAMPER SAID I COULD OFFER A CLASS SPECIAL

<cak> Yay!

<Janet> 20 YARDS (10 2-YARD PIECES, DIFFERENT COLORS) FOR $2.50 THAT INCLUDES SHIPPING

<cak> Wow--good deal

<brenda> yippie

<Janet> SHE SAID SHE'D PICK OUT COLORS FOR MOSTLY FLORAL TYPE STUFF, GREENS AND PINKS AND YELLOWS

<cak> I've heard she's a good color picker too

<Janet> AND GL KEEPSAKES (NOT TO BE OUTDONE) SAID IF ANYBODY WANTED TO ORDER THE RIBBON EMBROIDERY PATTERNS, SHE'D PUT IN A FREE PACK OF SILK RIBBON IF YOU SAID YOU WANTED THE CLASS SPECIAL

<cak> ah, the capitalist system at its finest

<Janet> SHE'S GOT GORGEOUS COLORS. AND TO GET 10 DIFFERENT ONES, THIS IS PERFECT FOR PLAYING WITH THIS EMBROIDERY

<Janet> AND GLK HAS AN INCREDIBLE RANGE OF COLORS, IT BOGGLES THE MIND HOW MANY DIFFERENT COLORS OF RIBBON THERE ARE

<Janet> THE FABRIC THERE SHE'S GOT ON SALE, THIS TAKES THE EMBROIDERY GREAT.

<Janet> THE BATISTE AND OTHER LIGHTER FABRICS, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO PUT A STABLIZER ON THE BACK WHILE YOU'RE WORKING WITH IT

<Janet> YOU CAN GET THIS STUFF AT THE FABRIC STORE, YOU IRON IT ON THEN WHEN YOU WANT IT TO GO AWAY, IT MELTS OUT WITH WATER

<Janet> THAT ONE SAMPLE DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, THAT WAS THE CARD WITH THE DRY EMBOSSING AROUND THE OVAL AND A FABRIC PIECE IN THE MIDDLE, SHE LEFT THE STABLIZER ON THERE, SAID THERE WAS NO NEED TO REMOVE IT FROM A CARD

<Janet> BUT IF YOU WERE MAKING A FANCY COLLAR OR DOING THIS ON A SWEATSHIRT, YOU'D WANT TO

<Janet> (SHE DID MAKE ME A RIBBON EMBROIDERIED SWEAT SHIRT FOR CHRISTMAS ONE YEAR, IT WAS AWESOME)

<Janet> (BUT i DIDN'T SCAN IT, IT HAS COFFEE STAINS ON IT NOW)

<Janet> THAT WELL-LOVED LOOK<>

<cak> Janet, what was used on the dry embossed card--it looks like crewel wool?

<cak> lol--a sure sign that it is loved

<Janet> SOME OF THAT IS SILK RIBBON AND SOME IS CREWEL WOOL

<Janet> GAY LIKES TO MIX IT UP

<Janet> AND ALL OF THIS IS BASIC EMBROIDERY STITCHES, LIKE WE LEARNED IN GIRL SCOUTS WHEN WE WERE GRADE SCHOOLERS

<Janet> GAY LIKES TO MAKE THE FLOWERS WITH RIBBON AND SOME OF THE LEAVES, BUT THEN USE THE CREWEL WOOL (THAT'S LIKE A THIN YARN) FOR THE STEMS

<Janet> AND SHE ALSO PUTS LITTLE BEADS AND THINGS IN TOO.

<Janet> THE ONE THAT IS ON GREEN MATERIAL?

<Janet> IT'S TWO ROSES AND SOME BUDS AND LITTLE FLOWERS?

<Janet> THAT ONE WAS A STAMP THAT SHE'D EMBROIDERED OVER THE TOP OF

<Janet> WITH WASH OUT INK (THAT i DON'T REMEMBER WHO SELLS BUT I THINK WACKY WAGON IN THE MALL IS IT)

<Janet> AND YOU CAN BUY PATTERNS, OR MAKE UP YOUR OWN

<Janet> Y'ALL ARE SO QUIET? AM I TELLING YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ON THIS?

<cak> yeah. we're just agog

<Janet> UH HUH<>

<brenda> really janet

<cak> we are!

<Janet> THE COOL THING I LEARNED WHEN I FIRST TRIED THIS WAS HOW TO THREAD THE NEEDLE

<Janet> I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A SPECIAL WAY TO DO IT AND MY RIBBON KEPT SLIDING OUT OF MY NEEDLE

<brenda> really?

<Janet> THEN MY DEAR LITTLE SISTER CLUCKED AT ME AND SHOWED ME...

<Janet> THREAD THE NEEDLE LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO FOR ANYTHING, THEN GO STICK IT THROUGH THE OTHER END OF THE RIBBON, ABOUT A HALF INCH UP FROM THE END

<Janet> AND PULL IT, SO IT'S SORT OF CAUGHT ON THE EYE END OF THE NEEDLE

<brenda> oh neat trick

<Janet> VOILA. IT DOESN'T PULL THROUGH ANYMORE

<brenda> yippie

<Janet> AND WHEN YOU'RE READY TO THREAD A DIFFERENT COLOR, JUST CUT IT OFF RIGHT AT THE EYE

<Janet> THIS WAS A HUGE DEAL TO ME, I PUT A DIAGRAM HOW TO DO IT ON THE CLASS PAGE, IT LIKE CHANGED MY LIFE<>

<brenda> i bet

<cak> it's a very cool technique==and I think that it wastes less ribbon too

<Janet> I THINK MOST OF THE STITCH DIAGRAMS ARE PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE BUD ONE

<Janet> WHAT THAT ONE DOESN'T SHOW AS WELL IS THAT YOU'RE TYING IT OFF AT THE BOTTOM WITH EITHER ANOTHER PIECE OF RIBBON OR A PIECE OF CREWEL YARN

<Janet> WHICH WORKS OUT WELL, BECAUSE YOU'RE ATTACHING A STEM TO IT AFTER YOU DO IT, SO WHEN I WAS DOING THESE, I WAS USING GREEN CREWEL YARN TO TIE OFF THE BOTTOM

<Janet> THERE ARE A BUNCH MORE STITCHES, TOO, BUT YOU CAN MAKE ALMOST ANYTHING WITH THE ONES I PUT DIAGRAMS FOR

<brenda> oh planning ahead

<Janet> AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE DIFFERENT STITCHES MADE DIFFERENT FLOWERS

<Janet> I REALLY LIKE THAT FRENCH KNOT WISTERIA

<Janet> ON ANOTHER PIECE IT COULD BE A BUNCH OF GRAPES

<brenda> yep sure could

<Janet> THE FUSCHIA SAMPLE? THAT'S THE LEAF STITCH (WHICH IS CALLED JAPANESE SOMETHING OR OTHER) BUT UPSIDE DOWN

<Janet> I CALL IT THE LEAF STITCH BECAUSE I AM NO NEEDLEARTIST

<cak> neither are we, so it's perfect

<Janet> LOL

<brenda> yep

<brenda> works for me

<cak> (I guess I should speak for myself)

<Janet> FRENCH KNOTS MAKE GREAT LITTLE BUDS

<brenda> wb paper

<Janet> THAT'S MY JUSTIFICATION FOR ALL THE SAMPLES, AND PUT ON THERE SO BIG, YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM AND IDENTIFY ALL THE STITCHES IN THEM

<paprpushr> thanks...darned lightening

<Janet> AND MAYBE SEE HOW YOUR DESIGN COULD BE MADE WITH THESE STITCHES

<Janet> ONE THAT I FORGOT TO PUT ON THERE IS THE LAZY DAISY STITCH

<cak> it would be really fun to interpret our favorite stamps into stitches!

<Janet> THAT'S MAKE A LOOP LIKE THE PETAL ONE, ONLY THEN BRING YOUR NEEDLE BACK UP AT THE END OF THE PETAL AND TACK IT IN PLACE

<cak> (especially the non-floral ones)

<Janet> OH YEAH!

<cak> clothes for women??

<Janet> OR YOU CAN ADD A QUICK FANCY BORDER TO ANYTHING USING THE COUCHING STITCH (WHICH i ALSO DIDN'T PUT ON THERE BECAUSE IT'S SO EASY)

<cak> and if you don't pull it too tight, it'll have some dimension?

<Janet> COUCHING STITCH YOU USE ONE PIECE OF RIBBON FOR THE WHOLE LENGTH, BRINGING IT UP AT ONE END AND DOWN AT THE OTHER...

<Janet> YES!

<Janet> AND THEN USING ANOTHER PIECE OF RIBBON, OR CREWEL YARN OR EVEN EMBROIDERY FLOSS TO TACK IT IN PLACE AT REGULAR INTERVALS

<Janet> LEAVE IT LOOSE IT'S LIKE YOU'RE MAKING A TUNNEL OF SORTS FOR THE MAIN RIBBON TO GO THROUGH

<Janet> (SO DON'T CUT OFF YOUR MAIN PIECE OF RIBBON UNTIL YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THE TENSION ON IT)

<Janet> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

<brenda> yep

<cak> yep! could you use another color of ribbon?

<miatagal> thanks for class janet!!I gotta leave

<Janet> THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE

<brenda> great class

<Janet> AND YES! ANOTHER PIECE OF RIBBON OR EVEN A DIFFERENT MEDIA, LIKE THE CREWEL YARN OR FLOSS.

<kristi> ty Janet

<paprpushr> thanks Janet

<Janet> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

<brenda> specials?

<cak> not yet. this is so new to me

<brenda> again?

<Janet> I THINK I COULD PROBABLY TYPE FOR HOURS ON THE DETAILS HERE, BUT THE DIAGRAMS I THINK ARE PRETTY GOOD

<cak> they are

<brenda> they are excellent

<Janet> 20 YARDS OF ORGANZA RIBBON FOR $2.50 THAT INCLUDES SHIPPING FROM THE PAMPERED STAMPER

<Janet> THEY HAVE A BOOTH AT THE CONVENTION

<Janet> JUST WRITE HER AND SAY YOU WANT THE CLASS SPECIAL

<Janet> AND GL KEEPSAKES UHHH WHAT WAS HER SPECIAL?

<cak> buy a pattern and get???

<Janet> FREE SILK RIBBON, ONE PACK WITH PURCHASE OF A PATTERN

<cak> yay! (and what am I cheering about--I don't need another obssession)

<Janet> HER BOOTH HAS THE PATTERN WITH THE SHOPPING CART, SO JUST PUT IN THE SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS BIT THAT YOU WERE IN CLASS AND WANT THE FREE RIBBON

<brenda> lol cak

<brenda> me too

<cak> this would be so easy to cart around with you though

<Janet> THIS IS BAD, I LEARNED THIS SO I COULD TEACH THIS CLASS AND IT'S ADDICTIVE!

<Janet> IT'S FAST AND EASY AND FUN

<cak> and the results are just lovely

<Janet> AND EVEN MY ORGANZA ON CARDSTOCK SAMPLE ISN'T TERRIBLE

<brenda> it is beautiful

<Janet> (ACTUALLY I WAS IMPRESSED WITH IT UNTIL I GOT GAY'S SAMPLES<>)

<brenda> scary when you get hooked on new stuff

<cak> I *love* that one==i love the dimension and the texture.

<Janet> AND IT WILL LOOK COOL, JUST A LITTLE 3-D EMBELLISHMENT ON A FLORAL STAMPED CARD

<cak> don't tell Gay, but I like yours better 'cause they're more dimensional

<Janet> OR TO ATTACH VELLUM TO A CARD WITH A ROSE

<cak> oh wow, yes!

<Janet> IT'S THE ORGANZA, IT'S GOT MORE BODY

<brenda> vellum is the ultimate challenge

<Janet> BUT YOU WOULDN'T WANT ORGANZA PROBABLY ON CLOTHING, IT DOESN'T HOLD UP LIKE SILK DOES

<cak> put a nosegay or flower on a lapel, flowers in a vase for an interior

<Janet> RIBBON STITCHES ON VELLUM LIKE A DREAM

<cak> should the vellum be the heavier weight?

<Janet> OH BUT I DID LEARN THAT WITH FABRIC, YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT WHERE YOU BRING UP YOUR NEEDLE?

<Janet> BUT WITH CARDSTOCK, ONCE YOU PUT EVEN THE POINT OF THE NEEDLE THROUGH, THAT =IS= WHERE YOU'RE GOING

<Janet> EVERY HOLE SHOWS

<cak> you can? after you've started the ribbon through?

<Janet> CARDSTOCK DOESN'T "HEAL" LIKE FABRIC DOES

<cak> Oh, but of course

<Janet> FRENCH KNOTS COVER A MULTITUDE OF INDECISIONS

<cak> lol

<Janet> WHERE ARE WE GOING NOW? #rubberclassroom FOR INKA BACKGROUNDS?

<brenda> lol

<cak> I know they also have pre-punched paper. punched in a small grid. I wonder if you could do something with that?

<brenda> yep

<Janet> I LOVE THAT STUFF

<Janet> AND EVOLVING IMAGES TEMPLATES HELP MAKE GREAT FRAMES

<cak> Oh Yes!

<Janet> (STRANGELY ENOUGH, AFTER MY SISTER VISITED, MY LARGER OVAL TEMPLATE WAS MISSING. HMMMM)

<cak> LOL

<Janet> EB! JUST IN TIME TO MOVE TO #rubberclassroom WITH US!

<cak> Sherlock Holmes, it doesn't take to figure tht one out.

<Janet> LOL

<cak> You know, you could give her a set as a gift (but take the large oval out first)

<EB2> okie dokie

<Janet> GAY DOESN'T STAMP MUCH BUT SHE LOVES THAT DRY EMBOSSING

<Janet> LOL AND I JUST MAY, TOO

<Janet> SEE YOU ALL AT THE NEXT CLASS!