[Babette was unavoidable detained]
<nancyvt> boy, you us all something pretty babette!
<deby> Yea!
<JoyceSBS> 2yeah
<MysticMer> Hello and So Sollie I'm so late
<Vyx> There she is! Yay Babette!
<Janet> YAY! Babette is here!!
<Janet> LOL I am so happenable
<labelle> hooray, you're here
<phyl> better late than never
<stubby> hi babette
<MysticMer> Duh ... somebody changed the numbers ... that's ok janet helped me out!
<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/babette/transfer/
<nancyvt> we've had to listen to janet's stories!!!
<MysticMer> hi everyone
<M> No problem... we were told you were going to make us all presents
<Janet> we've read the page too
<Janet> LOL
<MysticMer> I'm ready to talk
<Scout> and send us free stamps
<stampverb> we did the class assignment already
<justducky> hey Babs
<Janet> no, just a present for Janet
<nancyvt> do you want the addresses now???
<Janet> Okay. We've got our listening ears on, you put on your caps.
<LuniLadi> lol
<Scout> 4 M&M's
<MysticMer> The class was supposed to be polyclay transfers ...
<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/babette/transfer/
<stampverb> all caps, Babette?
<MysticMer> we can still do that - but I've got some fun *new* things that I'll just BET SOME OF YOU HAVE NOT TRIED
<MysticMer> JUST REMEMBERED TO TYPE IN CAPS
<Scout> see, worth waiting for
<cak> Yay!
<Janet> yay!
<stubby> ready, you always have good stuff
* stampverb wants the new stuff!
<MysticMer> ANYBODY HERE DONE A TRANSFER WITH YOUR HOME IRON ON THE IRONING BOARD?
<Joyce> Nope
<stampverb> yes
<M> yes
<cak> I've tried
<JoyceSBS> 2yep
<labelle> nope, not me
<phyl> no
<stubby> nope
<Bibi> nope
<MarthaB> no
<MysticMer> WELL, IT CAN BE DONE ON POLYCLAY
<deby> on tshirts
<MysticMer> YES ... I HAVE DONE IT.
<nancyvt> they all claim they don't use an iron anymore
<phyl> can't find it
<JoyceSBS> 2have burned a transfer on a t-shirt with the home iron on the ironing board....does that count?
<nancyvt> i use one every day, but never for clay!
<MysticMer> UNDER OPTION C IN THE POLYCLAY SECTION
<MysticMer> YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE YOUR INK JET PRINTER TOO!
<MysticMer> YOU KNOW MOST OF THE TIME WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE CAN'T USE OUR PRINTER ... WE HAVE TO GO
<Joyce> Thats always a good thing to be able to use our ink jets
<Janet> it counts to me, Joyce. I bought a transfer once, then couldn't find the iron
<Janet> I can use an ink jet print???
<MysticMer> BUY THE EXPENSIVE KIND OF COLOR COPY
<MysticMer> WELL ... NO MORE ...
<JoyceSBS> 2Hi Kristy
<nancyvt> tell me more tell me more
<labelle> that's good to hear, tell us more, pls
<KristyTTS> hey JOyce
<MysticMer> JUST TAKE WHATEVER IMAGE YOU HAVE AND COPY IT TO THE T-SHIRT INK JET TRANSFER PAPER
<MysticMer> CUT OUT THE SIZE OF THE IMAGE YOU WANT TO TRANSFER
<MysticMer> HAVE CONDITIONED (LIGHT COLORED) CLAY READY
<Joyce> Where do you find the T-Shirt Ink Jet Transfer paper?
<MysticMer> LAY YOUR CLAY ON ONE OF THE TEFLON SHEETS THAT YOU CAN GET AT AN EPICURE SHOP ... OR FROM
<JoyceSBS> 2Hobby Lobby
<MysticMer> SUZE WEINBERG
<LuniLadi> i think the bigger office supply stores sell it joyce
<MysticMer> THEN YOU MAKE A SANDWICH ON TOP OF YOUR I.BOARD. DON'T EAT THIS SANDWICH.
<stampverb> office max etc.
<MysticMer> A GLASS OF WINE WOULD BE NICE ... HEH HEH HEH
<cak> lol
<Janet> I got mine at Office Max
<MysticMer> ANYWAY ... THE SANDWICH IS LIKE THIS
<MysticMer> I.BOARD - TEFLON SHEET - CLAY - IMAGE FACE DOWN ON THE CLAY - TEFLON SHEET - IRON
<deby> does the transfer paper ever go bad? I have some that's a few years old
<MysticMer> SO ... I COULD NOT FIND BUT ONE 1/2 OF A PIECE OF THE TEFLON SHEET (YOU SHOULD COME SEE MY STUDIO)
<MysticMer> AND THEN I JUST SLAPPED A PIECE OF PAPER ON TOP ...
<MysticMer> WORKED LIKE A CHAMP
<M> how thick is clay?
<labelle> how about parchment paper. think it would work
<MysticMer> ANYWAY, THE TEFLON SHEET WILL GIVE YOU A WEAVE EFFECT ON TOP.
<MysticMer> PARCHMENT PAPER IS GOOD TO USE
<MysticMer> SO I HAD MY IRON SET ON COTTON
<Janet> it would be smooth
<LuniLadi> how do you color it?
<MysticMer> I DID NOT PRESS DOWN TOO HARD BECAUSE IT WOULD SMOOSH THE CLAY FLATTER THAN I WANTED IT
<MysticMer> I DID THE CIRCULAR MOTION THING SO AS NOT TO HAVE ANY IRON HOLES BE IN ONE SPOT ON MY IMAGE
<M> how thick is clay ?
<Janet> as thick of clay as you want it?
<MysticMer> AND I DID THIS FOR ABOUT 20 SECONDS ... THOUSAND 1, THOUSAND 2 ... ETC
<MysticMer> AS THICK AS YOU WANT, JANET
<MysticMer> WHEN FINISHED, TAKE THE TOP PAPER OFF ONLY
<MysticMer> SET IT ASIDE TO COOL.
<MysticMer> WHILE IT IS COOLING - I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER LITTLE HINT
<MysticMer> BEFORE YOU IRON ... PULL ONE CORNER BACK SO THAT WHEN YOU IRON IT LAYS THE OTHER WAY
<MysticMer> IN OTHER WORDS - THIS IS A VERY TINY CORNER - YOU WILL HAVE A HANDLE TO PULL THE PAPER BACK
<MysticMer> UP WITH
<labelle> that sounds like a real good hint
<MysticMer> MAKE SENSE?
<Janet> ohhh so you have a grabber!
<LuniLadi> *alot* of sense
<MysticMer> AFTER IT IS COOLED OFF YET STILL A BIT WARM
<deby> you're so clever
<MysticMer> TAKE THE TOP PAPER OFF
<Janet> lots of sense, I never can separate those things
<cak> it does! worth the price of admission right there
<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/babette/transfer/
<MysticMer> YOUR IMAGE IS NOW READY - YOU WILL WANT TO MAKE THE CLAY LARGER THAN YOUR IMAGE
<MysticMer> SO NOW IT IS TIME TO TRIM YOUR IMAGE TO THE SIZE YOU WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE
<Lynn> hi cindy
<MysticMer> NOW GET THIS .... YOU GOTTA BAKE THE LITTLE SUCKER MORE IN YOUR PRE-HEATED TOASTER OVEN.
<MysticMer> DO THE TOASTER OVEN FOR ABOUT 10 TO 15 MINUTES AT 275 ... fIMO CLAY TAKES A DIFFERENT TEMP
<Janet> it was unbaked when we started transferring, right?
<MysticMer> OK ... READY FOR THE NEXT ONE?
<MysticMer> JANET .. YES THE CLAY WAS RAW BEFORE WE IRONED IT
<KristyTTS> is someone logging this class?
<labelle> does the ironing partially bake the clay?
<stampverb> 10-15 minutes for each 1/4 inch usually
<Janet> okay. just wanted to make sure.
<Janet> cak is
<MysticMer> KRISTY ... YES THE IRONING PARTIALLY BAKES IT
<AliciaG> wow, a use for my iron finally
<M> what was the SETTING on the iron?
<MysticMer> ONE THING WE WANT TO DO IS BE SURE THAT THE CLAY IS BAKED ALL THE WAY
<MysticMer> OR IT WON'T BE STRONG
<Janet> LOL
<Janet> cotton
<MysticMer> THE IRON WAS SET ON COTTON
<M> ty janet
<MysticMer> HERE IS THE NEXT ONE ... OPTION B
<MysticMer> THIS TRANSFER INVOLVES GIN
<MysticMer> THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THIS FUN GIN THING ... I CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE IDEA
<LuniLadi> how do you color it?
<LuniLadi> sorry...late on the question
<deby> i've done this one--it really works
<MysticMer> BECKAH KRAHULA TOLD ME ABOUT THIS A YEAR OR SO AGO
<MysticMer> OH-WAIT ... YOU GUYS WANT TO KNOW HOW TO COLOR IT?
<MysticMer> OK
<nancyvt> yep, i had in a class
<jenmist> acck
<jenmist> my drink
<stampverb> Dotty McMillan too
<MysticMer> THERE ARE TOO WAYS THAT i KNOW TO COLOR
<MysticMer> YOU CAN USE THE COLOR COPIES - COPIED ON THE SAME T-SHIRT PAPER WITH YOUR COLOR INKJET
<Janet> I got the gin!
<MysticMer> OR.... STAMP OUT A B/W IMAGE TO YOUR REGULAR BOND PAPER
<LuniLadi> wait...we're doing coloring
<MysticMer> COPY ON TO THE INK JET PAPER AS A B/W
<MysticMer> COLOR WITH EITHER PRISMACOLORS OR OIL BASED COLORED PENCILS
<Janet> oh okay, i'll just sip a little while you all color
<MysticMer> NOT YOUR COOL WATERCOLOR PENCILS
<LuniLadi> we're coloring on the transfer paper itself?
<MysticMer> IN THE EXAMPLE BY OPTION C ... POLYMER CLAY ... YOU WILL SEE MY SAMPLES OF COLORING WITH BOTH
<MysticMer> KINDS OF PENCILS
<MysticMer> http://cyberstampers.com/class/babette/transfer/
<MysticMer> LOOK AGAIN AT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
<MysticMer> JANET OR DEB OR SOMEBODY - CAN YOUU PUT THAT URL UP FROM TIME TO TIME FOR ME?
<MysticMer> OK BACK TO THE GIN
<Janet> sure!
<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/babette/transfer/
<LuniLadi> you've colored directly onto the transfer paper....and then went ahead and ironed?
<Janet> back to the gin!
<MysticMer> DON'T LET ANYBODY FOOL YOU ... THE COOL THING ABOUT GIN IS GETTING TO GO TO THE LIQUOR STORE
<LuniLadi> am i understanding this?
<MysticMer> THEN HAVING IT ON YOUR SHELF AND SAYING IT IS FOR YOUR 'ART' <GRIN>
<phyl> the cool thing about gin is drinking it
<MysticMer> LUNILADI - DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE UNDERSTANDING THIS
<Janet> it feeds my muse
<LuniLadi> i just wanted to double check
<MysticMer> YES, I COLORED ON THE TRANSFER PAPER.... FEELS ODD AS IT HAS A WEIRD COATING, BUT IT CAN BE DONE
<LuniLadi> you're coloring directly on the transfer paper and then continue with ironing?
<LuniLadi> thanks
<LuniLadi> go it
<MysticMer> DULL YOUR COLOR PENCILS ON SCRATCH PAPER SO YOU DON'T DIG A HOLE IN THE TRANSFER PAPER WHEN YOU COLOR
<LuniLadi> ah...good tip
<justducky> which side do yu color on and how do you tell if you are coloring on right side of transfer paper?
<LuniLadi> the side that you iron onto the clay
<MysticMer> JUSTDUCKY - YOU'LL KNOW WHICH SIDE
<MysticMer> ONE SIDE IS PLAIN (SOMETIMES THEY ARE SLIGHTLY COLORED ... LIKE BLUE ... SO YOU CAN TELL BEFORE YOU
<MysticMer> PUT THEM INTO YOUR COPIER
<LuniLadi> so the coloring transfers with the image
<LuniLadi> how cool
<MysticMer> BUT THE FEEL OF THE COPIED-ON SIDE IS KINDA WAXY. SO YOU WILL KNOW.
<MysticMer> YES THE COLORING WILL TRANSFER WHEN YOU IRON
<MysticMer> ABOUT THE GIN ...
<M> (d)
* LuniLadi is ready for the gin...lol
<MysticMer> IT CAN BE ALCOHOL ... HATE TO BREAK THIS TO YOU ... BUT YOU DON'T *HAVE* TO BUY GIN.
<LuniLadi> janet is already sloshed...lol
<Janet> Bombay for your glass and Gordens for your art?
<MysticMer> BARBARA MC GUIRE TAUGHT ME HOW TO DO THIS WITH ALCOHOL
<MysticMer> WORKS GREAT.
<MysticMer> HERE
<stampverb> Jack Daniels works fine (don't ask how I know)
<MysticMer> IS THE PROCESS
<Janet> LOL
<nancyvt> it takes longer doing that way though, the gin seems to make it go faster!
<MysticMer> HAVE YOUR CONDITIONED CLAY READY ... ON OPTION A I SHOW YOU A PIECE OF PINK CLAY
<stampverb> we had a clay class in a public library and got busted for the smell of booze.....
<MysticMer> I TRANSFERRED A BLACK CELTIC KNOT ON TOP OF THE CLAY
<MysticMer> STAMPVERB - LOL!
* JoyceSBS is away: Gone to finish logging all the new stamps! Work work work
<JoyceSBS> 2sorry folks, have to go....have a good night.
<MysticMer> NOW ... YOU WILL NEED A TONER COPY OF YOUR GRAPHIC
<KristyTTS> nite Joyce
<justducky> you too Joyce
<MysticMer> PINK CLAY DOWN - TONER COPY FACE DOWN ON CLAY
<Janet> out of a laser printer or a copier?
<MysticMer> BURNISH WITH BONE FOLDER OR BACK OF SPOON
<MysticMer> HAS TO BE LASER COPY THIS TIME ... THE TONER IS WHAT TRANSFERS
<MysticMer> THANKS FOR ASKING, JANET ... I KNOW YOU KNEW THE ANSWER
<LindaR> does it have to be a fresh copy or will an old color copy work?
<MysticMer> DAMPEN THE BACK OF THE GRAPHIC WITH GIN ... OR ALCOHOL
<cak> Do you need to burnish with a lot of pressure or just to make sure there's good contact?
<MysticMer> LINDAR ... IT SHOULD BE A FRESH COPY ... BUT WE HAVE A FIX FOR THAT IF IT NOT
<LindaR> good, got lots of older copies from swaps
<MysticMer> CAK - BE SURE YOU JUST MAKE CONTACT - DON'T PUSH TOO HARD
<MysticMer> LET IT DRY
<labelle> good, I have a lot of older color copies:)
<MysticMer> RE-DAMPEN WITH ALCOHOL OR GIN WITH YOUR FINGER
<cak> Ok (note to self: light hand)
<MysticMer> DON'T PUT TOO MUCH DOWN AND GET EVERYTHING SOPPY
<MysticMer> LET IT DRY
<MysticMer> OOPS ... FORGOT TO SAY BURNISH AGAIN - THE LET IT DRY
<MysticMer> SO WE'VE DONE THIS TWICE, RIGHT?
<Judy> right
<MysticMer> NOW ... THIS TIME DAMPEN ... AND BEGIN TO DO THE SWIRL THING... MEANING
<MysticMer> THAT YOU WILL BE PULLING OFF ALL OF THE PAPER
<MysticMer> YES .. ALL OF IT.
<MysticMer> DON'T SWIRL TOO HARD ... TAKE IT SLOW ... IT WILL TAKE MANY TIMES DOING THIS
<Janet> that's okay, I got plenty of gin (for me)
<MysticMer> WHEN IT DRIES YOU WILL SEE WHITE ... THAT MEANS YOU DAMPEN AGAIN AND RUB THE WHITE OFF AGAIN
<MysticMer> BECKAH SUGGESTS YOU WET YOUR FINGER, TAP IT ON THE SIDE OF YOUR OTHER HAND
<LindaR> so we're rubbing the paper off, not pulling it up?
<MysticMer> THEN RUB ... SO YOU DONT PUT TOO MUCH WET ON YOUR IMAGE
<MysticMer> LINDAR ... YES ... THIS TIME WE ARE RUBBING THE PAPER OFF.
<MysticMer> IT WILL EVENTUALLY ALL COME OFF.
<MysticMer> NOW... ABOUT THOSE OLDER COPIES
<labelle> yes, yes, yes
<LindaR> good, a old copy tip
<Janet> http://cyberstampers.com/class/babette/transfer/
<MysticMer> BEFORE YOU LAY YOUR OLD COPY DOWN ON YOUR CLAY ...
<Cher> ty
<MysticMer> FIRST PAINT THE CLAY WITH A THIN COATING OF TLS
<MysticMer> THAT IS TRANSLUCENT LUQUID SCULPEY...
<MysticMer> dONNA KATO HAS ALSO MADE A TYPE OF TLS
<MysticMer> SHE CALLS HERS KATO SAUCE
<Janet> oh that's good
<MysticMer> WHEN YOU WORK WITH HERS ... THE RESULTS COME OUT GLOSSY
<Janet> i love this stuff
<LuniLadi> the gin?
<LuniLadi> lol
<MysticMer> WHEN YOU WORK WITH SCULPEY ... THE RESULTS ARE FROSTED LIKE AND MATT
<Janet> that too<g>
<MysticMer> NOT TOO FROSTED THOUGH AS YOU CAN SEE THRU IT JUST FINE
<MysticMer> SO ... WITH OLDER COPIES
<cak> interesting, good to have a choice
<labelle> i'll be sure to try this,
<MysticMer> YOU HAVE CLAY ... THEN TLS (THIN COAT) ... THEN TONER IMAGE FACE DOWN... BURNISH
<MysticMer> NOW THIS TIME YOU HAVE TO BAKE IN TOASTER OVEN ... BECAUSE OF THE TLS.
<Janet> with my paper on it?
<MysticMer> BAKE FOR ABOUT 5-7 MINUTES AT 275 ...
<MysticMer> TAKE OUT ... PULL IT ALL OFF WHEN WARM ... IN OTHER WORDS LET IT COOL A BIT FIRST
<MysticMer> THEN WHEN PAPER IS REMOVED ... PUT BACK IN THE OVEN TO FINISH BAKING.
<MysticMer> REMEMBER THE CORNER TRICK SO IT IS EASIER TO REMOVE.
<LindaR> was the original gin technique done on baked clay?
<LuniLadi> i wish i would have known this! I had a gorgeous old image..ruined it...didn't transfer well
<MysticMer> I WAS SO LATE GETTING HERE ... I'M TERRIBLY SORRY ... SEEMS I THOUGHT IT WAS 10 O'CLOCK DALLAS TIME.
<labelle> so before doing anything with an older copy, you use the tls and then bake
<cak> well, you know you'll just *have* to teach it again
<MysticMer> DUH ... JANET CALLED ME ... THEN I COULDN'T GET ON .. BECAUSE THE NUMNBERS WERE DIFFERENT
<Janet> that time thing is confusing, to know if you go up and hour or back an hour
<MysticMer> SO ... PLEASE ... DO YOU AHVE ANY QUESTIONS
<Janet> and yes, we want more classes!!
<deby> what is the life span of a copy before you should use tls?
<cak> the transfer paper is the type that irons on plasticy transfer or is there a newer kind?
<Cher> your samples are gorgeous!!
<Janet> this was all clear, and your page was great
<MysticMer> I GAVE YOU ABOUT 10 TYPES OF TRANSFERS
<justducky> yes yes yes, we want more classes on clay!!!!
<MysticMer> WE ONLY COVERED A COUPLE ...
<MysticMer> OK ... LET'S DO IT AGAIN ... I LOVE POLYCLAY!
<cak> OK, we demand a series from you!
<MysticMer> THANK YOU, CHER
<LindaR> i would like this presented again, in a full hour
<Janet> okay!! Deb will be getting to you to schedule for sure!
<LindaR> i'm a poly clay newbie
<justducky> a SERIES, YEAHHHH!!!
<MysticMer> DEBY ... I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE LIFE SPAN ... SHELF LIFE ... TRY IT ... IF IT DOESN'T WORK ...
<phyl> ya one a week
<Janet> a fresh addict. this is cool stuff
<Cher> (i'd like this presented again too...so I won't be late next time!)
<deby> ok
<MysticMer> THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE COPIED IT FIRST!! HA ... LOVE IT ... FINDING OUT AFTER THE FACT, HUH?
<cak> lol
<justducky> one a week - yeahhhhh
<MysticMer> IF YOU REALLY LOVE AN IMAGE ... FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE COPY IT - AND WORK FROM COPIES!
<Carlotta> I'd love to see this class on a day I can attend the full class
<MysticMer> ONE A WEEK ???? YA-HOO!
<phyl> absolutely
<AliciaG> =)
<deby> works for me!
<cak> Have you tried coloring with the fabric transfer crayons? (or should I hold that question?)
<Janet> where do we go next?
<MysticMer> WE WILL SURE DO IT ... AND AGAIN I'M SO SORRY i'M SUCH A DITZ.
<Janet> lazy bones wants someone else to type her a bridge
<cak> #stampnight I think??
<Jambalaya> #stampnight
<LuniLadi> parh-tee!
<phyl> great work
<Janet> thanks!
<phyl> wonderful samples thanks so much
<MysticMer> NO, CAK, I HAVE NOT TRIED FABRIC CRAYONS ... BUT I'LL BET IT WORKS.
<Janet> Babette, come into #stampnight and talk more
<justducky> just glad you came hon. I had a great time! Thanks
<MysticMer> YOUR WELCOME
<LindaR> looks really interesting, i'm going to give it a try from your instructions
<cak> I was thinking it would work fine. And sometimes easier to find that oil based pencils?
<justducky> where now????
<LuniLadi> thanks babette....this is just in time...want to do some transfers for pins this weekend!
<LindaR> will this transcript be available?
<cak> It will!
<Janet> click on #stampnight
<MysticMer> YES, CAK, OIL BASED PENCILS MAY BE HARD TO FIND ... MINE ARE FROM WALNUT HOLLOW
<cindyc> maybe i will finally use the tls i have had forever
<LindaR> ty cak! you are super
<justducky> when will this transcript be available?
<cak> I should have it on the unedited site in a day or two
<MysticMer> BUT PRISMACOLORS WORK JUST FINE TOO.
<justducky> ty
<cak> (hopefully by tomorrow morning--but sometimes I have to sleep)
<Cher> ty mystic...I will get the transcript of this for sure!
<MysticMer> CHER ... JUST PRINT OFF THE WEBSITE ... THAT'S EASIER!
<cak> so waxed-based too! cool
<LindaR> sleep, i thought you stamped all day and night
<justducky> help me get to stampnight????
<MysticMer> http://cyberstampers.com/class/babette/transfer/
<LuniLadi> cak...do you have Alicia's 2pm class on pins?
<Cher> oh, ok! thanks!
<deby> join #stampnight
<LuniLadi> i checked the site...didn't see it :(
<cak> click on this justducky #stampnight
<Jambalaya> to get to party just click here>>>>>>> #stampnight
<MysticMer> lUNILADI - WHAT DIDN'T YOU SEE?
<cak> LL, sadly I don't. I'm trying to get a log of it
<MysticMer> WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
<LuniLadi> oh...not you babette...this is just in time!
<LuniLadi> another class i didn't log
<cak> (they were moving my work computers and I was cut off from the world for 3 days)
<LuniLadi> drat...i was at work and didn't log it!
<MysticMer> OK ... SHEW .. .THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WEBISTE JANET JUST MADE FOR ME
<Cher> justducky, can you dbl click on the words #stampnight ?
<LuniLadi> no babette...this is great info!!!
<MysticMer> GOOD NIGHT YOU ALL ... 'PPRECIATE YOU!
<LuniLadi> want to do some transfer pins this weekend as daks!
<AliciaG> =)
<labelle> nite and thanks, great info
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