<Carlotta> Do I need to have images ready to watercolor?

<Jambalaya> yes carlotta

<MomCat> If you want to

<Bibi> I know what I look like. that's all I can take

<Star> lol

<Jambalaya> if you work along with janet you learn a lot

<cak> If it's like her other classes, you should be able to stamp some in class though

<MomCat> use permanent ink or emboss, Carlotta

<hagedissi> have to get some stamingstuff ready

<cak> get some watercolor paper and some water and some paints (watercolor, dye ink pads, whatever)

<Jambalaya> am i the only stamper that always has images stamped waiting to be colored???

<Star> I think we should do a collective altered book with all our pictures and mail it from chatter to chatter

<cak> Oh, and a brush too--anything else?

<Bibi> jams, I have lots of them.

<MomCat> paper towels

<MomCat> masking tape

<Bibi> but I almost never end up coloring them

<cak> get too involved in the chat Bibi?

<Bibi> and choklit, always bring choklit to class

<cak> lol--veeeery important

<Jambalaya> oh yeah, stampers neeeeeed choklit

<Bibi> not just in class, I mean never - I just stamp up images and never use them

* marvell is in bed...no stampin stuff ready

<hagedissi> what did i miss?

* marvell doesn't get to eat choklit for awhile...*sniffle*

<cak> well, you can "virtualize" it

<cak> poor marvell!

<Jambalaya> nothing yet hagedissi

<cak> (that just ain't right)

<hagedissi> reading back

<hagedissi> some fun

<Star> I seldom just stamp and image ....I have to use it immediately in card or something. You just stamp a whole bunch of images on individual cardstock?

<Carlotta> Darn- I'm missing the choklit!

<Bibi> yes

<hagedissi> who's eating choklit this time of day?

<Bibi> me

<Star> then just stack them somewhere until you are inspired?

<Jambalaya> i am

<hagedissi> anytime is a right time not?, g

<Jambalaya> yes star

<Bibi> star, yes

<Jambalaya> when i have ink on my stamp, i usually stamp up a few at a time

<cak> maybe that's what I should do--at least I'd be stamping *something*

<Star> don't you want to color or assemble them right away?

<marvell> I'm on the Atkins diet...no carbs, no sugar...

<Jambalaya> janet!!!

<Jandante> vicki!!!

<hagedissi> does it work?

<Bibi> stamped up images are also good to bring with you when you travel, all you need is some pens or whatever to color in, not a huge trailer full of stamping gears

<Jandante> someone should have reminded me that a new sample would also have to dry before scanning it

<Star> now, that is a great idea Bibi

<Bibi> cak, did you hear that?

<Jambalaya> we mentioned that just a few minutes ago<g>

<Star> lol..........Jam said that

<Jandante> LOL

<Bibi> she was reading your mind!

<cak> oops, sorry, driftin' a bit there

<Jambalaya> cak said it, but i agreed<g>

<Jandante> I finished painting about 20 minutes ago. I was in the bathroom with the hair dryer

<Bibi> LOL! we knew it!

<hagedissi> g

<Jandante> but I DO have a new sample!

<Star> Janet, you don't have to doll up for class...we can't see you

<hagedissi> can't hardly wait

<Bibi> where, where, whee???

<Jandante> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/janet/water/new.html

<Jandante> LOL!!!

<Jambalaya> uhhhh janet, your heat gun is right there---------------------------------------------------------------------->

<cak> (I just knew that's what would have happened to me)

<Jandante> no, it isn't either. that's mike's chain saw, I don't want to know why it's in the den

<Jandante> Rosem!

<Bibi> hia rosem

<Jandante> You all were talking about good stuff to take when traveling?

<cak> Rosem?! You late-bloomer,you

<Jandante> I'm sold on the watercolor crayons

<Bibi> yes, choklit

<cak> and images to color

<Rosem> hiya

<Jandante> LOL

<Rosem> lol cak

<marvell> Watercolor crayons are wonderful!

<Jandante> the new sample illustrates how you can do a bunch of images with watercolor crayons and just take them and a waterbrush on the plane

<Jandante> and you're good to go

<Jandante> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/janet/water/new.html

<Star> cool

<Jandante> that is the new sample, isn't it?

<cak> Wow--we were just talking about that

<Bibi> eggselent idea

<Jambalaya> yep

<Jandante> it was EASY to scan before I painted it

* Carlotta <---getting my watercolor crayons now

<Jandante> I do love mine

<Jandante> although I confess. I rarely do it this way like the sample. I almost always scribble on an AOL CD and take that instead

<hagedissi> sounds easy looks good

<Jandante> if you scribble a patch of every color (and pack the crayons in your backpack) then you can do anything

<Jandante> and what else are ya gonna use an AOL CD for?

<cak> I think you get better control of the color that way (the coloring on the famous AOL palette)

<hagedissi> i'm mostly using a pensil and borrow the color of a srap paper where i put some crayon on

<cak> Nuking!

<Jandante> oh yeah AND nuking!

<Jandante> well, after you use all the crayon off it, then you can nuke it at the hotel

<justducky> duck tape R Us! Sorry I'm late!

<cak> lol

<Jambalaya> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/janet/water/new.html

<Jandante> I have about a million bazillion class pages, what part of watercolor are you all most interested in?

<Jambalaya> shading

<Star> backgrounds

<hagedissi> doesn't really matter, love it all

<justducky> haven't been to any..go for it!

<Jandante> I can tell quick about the crayons or pencils. Shading. That's it. That's what I'll tell about the pencils, crayons or pigment you're picking up off an AOL CD

<Jandante> Stamps are EASY to paint with good shadows!

<Jandante> EASY EASY!

<MomCat> Janet, how about a brief overview of paper?

<MomCat> please

<Jandante> they have the shadow lines drawn in for you.

<Jandante> okey dokey, that too

<Jandante> so all you have to do is start with your color on or beside the line

<Jandante> and pull the color into the middle

<Jandante> easiest way to do this is to get the area you want to paint wet with clear water first...

<Jandante> then put some color in your brush tip...

[the logger was dropped momentarily here]

<Jandante> we'll move class pages to talk about paper, but you wet just the area you want to paint.

<Jandante> let's move class pages now.

<Jandante> http://cyberstampers.com/class/janet/water/

<Jandante> go here

<Bibi> ouch! who is logging?

<hagedissi> great tip

<Jambalaya> i do okay with the image itself, it's the shading to create a shadow i still have trouble with

<Jandante> this shows exactly how to paint at the lines and keep painting until it's just right for you

<cak> I am (with a great big hole in it)

<Bibi> oh, ok

<Jandante> just keep painting at the lines until the paper is so dry you're getting hard lines

<Jandante> then wet down the area again if you want more contrast, and keep going

<Bibi> (not bigger than the one I made earlier, cak...LOL)

<Jandante> you may want to change shades of color

<Jandante> but this class page here: http://cyberstampers.com/class/janet/water/

<Jandante> that shows painting in areas of color better

<hagedissi> verry nice jandante!

<Jandante> does this make sense to you seeing it?

<Bibi> yes

<Jandante> oh I forgot I had my musical party name on LOL

<hagedissi> yes

<Jandante> like that poinsettia

<Jandante> i painted that one pedal at a time

<Jandante> and i never painted a petal der next to a wet one

<Jandante> skip around

<hagedissi> i'm feeling to join secrets

<Jandante> that way the paint doesn't go into areas you're already pleased with

<Star> what ink do you use to stamp so it won't run?

<Jandante> this is a big key. skip around

<Jandante> you MUST use either permanent ink, or stamp and emboss your image.

<Jandante> OR you can get a really cool look stamping with dye ink, letting it dry really good, then taking a wet brush and pulling some of the color towards the middle of the areas

<Jandante> it looks watercolored, if you just stop when you need to and don't obscure all of your image<g>

<Jandante> don't ask me how I know about losing the whole stamped part

<Jandante> (but it was FUN!)

<hagedissi> that i did once, its works wel especialy with a multicolored pad

<Jandante> or when you color on your stamp with Marvy markers and stamp with that.

<hagedissi> o yes

<Jandante> but when we're talking stamping images to watercolor with paint (or ink pads, but separate from the stamping of it) use permanent or emboss it

<hagedissi> must try that to

<Jandante> that is fun. color the image with marvy markers, huff on it a bit with your hot moist breath and then stamp it

<Jandante> then mess with it with a wet brush

<hagedissi> or blenderpen?

<Jandante> hmmm I have another page that shows the steps of watercoloring in images too

<Jambalaya> technical term: mess with it <g>

<Jandante> i've never used a blender pen. I need to try that!

<Jandante> mess wif it

<Jandante> or here, let's go semi in order

<Jandante> go to this class page (told you I had many class pages<g>)

<Jandante> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Jandante> The first page of that shows paper.

<Jandante> so let's talk about paper first

<Jandante> en you color on your stamp with Marvy markers and stamp with that.

<Jandante> [02:15] <hagedissi> o yes

<Jandante> [02:15] <Jandante> but when we're talking stamping images to watercolor with paint (or ink pads, but separate from the stamping of it) use permanent or emboss it

<Jandante> [02:15] <hagedissi> must tr

<Jandante> pp[s

<Jandante> lol

<Jandante> wrong stuff in my buffer.

<Jandante> let me try that again

<Jandante> (all I was trying to do was show rosem the class page)

<Jandante> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Jandante> There, Rosem

<Jandante> <-- not to be trusted after midnight to cut and paste correctly

<hagedissi> g

<Jandante> now what you see there first are several different stampings of the same stamp

<Jandante> on different kinds of watercolor paper

<Jandante> TRUST ME, the paper MATTERS!

<Star> II love the project 2 and 3 backgrounds...how did you do it? different papers give that look?

<Jandante> you can paint on index cards or cardstock or your brother, I do. But the better the paper, the more appropriate the paper, the better your results.

<Rosem> got it

<hagedissi> what wunderfull examples

<Jandante> you see on the first page, one of the images (this is the image and a closeup in the little pic) has a lot of texture to it

<Jandante> and the other is all smooth and crisp

<Jandante> the one with all the texture is what most of us think of as watercolor paper.

<Jandante> it has TEXTURE. a rough surface.

<Jandante> it paints neat but it is hard to get a good stamped image on it

<Jandante> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/

<Bibi> hi verb and ariesse

<ariesse> Hello!

<stampverb> hi,

<Jandante> we're talking about paper now. the first two images, which is actually one image and one closeup piece

<Star> how do you get a stamped image over the toothy paper?

<Jandante> these were stamped on cold press watercolor paper

<Jandante> well, you push real hard on the stamp, use as juicy a permanent ink as you can find. and accept that you're not going to get a crisp image.

<Jandante> but you get marvelous texture

<Jandante> now the second set of image and closeup is stamped on hot press watercolor paper

<justducky> what does cold press mean?

<Jandante> it means that in the process of making the paper, when the machine smooshed out all the pulp?

<Jandante> either the press was cold or the press was hot

<justducky> k

<Jandante> think about if you ironed a shirt with a cold iron and if you ironed it with a hot iron

<ariesse> How do you get the stamp inverted?

<Jandante> cold press has texture

<Jandante> that particular stamp is an inverse image.

<ariesse> Ok! :)

<Jandante> no trick of mine<g> just buy 'em inversed<g>

<Jandante> hot press, just like a hot iron, it smooths out a lot more of the wrinkles

<ariesse> Quite easy when you know the trick! :D

<Jandante> in fact, hot press watercolor paper is like stamping on cromecoat.

<Star> good metaphor, Janet

<Jandante> it stamps soooo good

<Jandante> but you give up that texture.

<Star> so image is clearer

<Jandante> so decide what look you want and use the right paper.

<justducky> cromecoat?

<Jandante> i have some tree trunks back in the samples, i stamped those on rough watercolor paper and they didn't stamp worth, uh, spit

<Jandante> like a coated slick paper. it is slick but not coated, the hot press paper

<ariesse> I just looked at my watercolor paper, but it doesn't say if it's hot pressed or cold pressed..

<Jandante> it is a dream to stamp on

<Jandante> then if it doesn't say, it's surely cold press

<ariesse> Ok!

<Jandante> you can tell for sure if you run your fingers over it and feel a texture to it.

<Jandante> hot press has no texture, it is slick as a baby's butt

<Jandante> cold press is as slick as a husband's face the third day of vacation

<stampverb> or as Norwegian pond ice in winter?

<ariesse> Yep, it's definitely cold press... :)

<Star> what doyoudo about the buckling of lesser quality paper?

<Jandante> LOL

<Jandante> good question!!

<hagedissi> whats the difference between hot press an d normal smooth paper?

<Jandante> I encourage you to buy at least 140 pound watercolor paper. if it doesn't say how many pounds it is, then it's not 140

<justducky> gotta hit the hay...sorry I was late. See ya'll next week or if I wake up later may check in! Nite and thanks Janet!

<Jandante> okey dokey

<hagedissi> bye justducky

<justducky> bye and thanks

<Jambalaya> nite ducky

<Jandante> it's a difference usually in paper composition and the way it is made. many smooth cardstocks are in fact sort of layers of paper bonded together

<Jandante> and if you get it really wet, it will start to fall apart on you

<Jandante> watercolor paper is made not to fall apart on you

<hagedissi> ok

<Jandante> you can minimize the buckling of your lighter papers by pre-stretching...

<Jambalaya> w/c paper has more rag, or cotton in it

<Jandante> in this case by taping all around your sides with masking tape

<Jandante> and even if it buckles during painting, when it dries it will dry back flat

<Jandante> i have a picture of this in here somewhere, probably in projects

<Jandante> let's go look at the first project, click the projects link

<Jandante> ah ha!

<Bibi> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/project2.html

<Jandante> click on project 1, that is the leaves on the orange wash

<Bibi> masking taped

<Jandante> actually all the projects start out with showing the taped down paper

<Bibi> this is where she wants us now: http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/projects.html

<hagedissi> it looks like batik

<Jandante> but if you look at project 1 you can see my cat fixing to lick my painting

<Jandante> and my salt magic trick

<stampverb> did you carve this stamp?

<Jandante> no, this is a stamp by gg designs, they are in the mall

<Carlotta> LOL

<Jandante> see my cute cat?

<Jandante> (he's so bad)

<cak> Chico!

<Bibi> yes, lol

<ariesse> Really cute! :)

<Jandante> these washes are made by making your paper really really wet with plain water to begin with...

<Jandante> really wet. i'm lazy and I usually tape mine to my cutting board and carry it over to the kitchen sink

<Jandante> and hold it under the faucet

<Jandante> then sort of let the excess water drip off

<Jandante> you want the paper soaked but not puddling

<Jandante> if you get puddles, take the corner of a paper towel and soak up the puddle, just by sticking the corner of the paper towel into it

<cak> if you held it vertically over the sink, would that run too much water off?

<Jandante> then you load up your paintbrush with wet paint and swoosh it on

<Jandante> probably not, that would probably be about right

<cak> Yay! No judgement needed

<Jandante> the illusion you get in painting this is that you are manipulating paint on the layer of water rather than painting a piece of paper

<Jandante> and then get another color and swoosh it on

<Jandante> and the colors are running and feathering and being gorgeous

<Jandante> you can make the best skies this way!

<Jandante> and absolutely easy easy and perfect clouds

<Star> swooshing back and forth or up and down?

<Jandante> leave white spaces with no paint, the sky color is going to feather from the top and the bottom of the white space (which is your cloud)

<cak> (and then the cat sticks his tongue in the most perfect one)

<Jandante> then get some light gray in your brush and run the light gray brush on the underside of the white part

<Jandante> and that feathers up and down in the wet

<Jambalaya> lol, cak

<Jandante> next time you look at a cloud, notice it. it has a slight shadow on the bottom

<Jandante> perzactly cak. chico always licks the best paintings

<Star> classy cats

<Jandante> the salt trick is this...

<Jandante> after you have made your wash (wet paint on wet paper) salt it.

<Jandante> not like a piece of meat, but salt here, salt there, scatter some grains this way and that way

<ariesse> Do you use watercolor paint as in the expensive artist one or could you do it with cheap children's color?

<Jandante> you can use rock salt, or kosher salt or table salt

<Jandante> i use whatever I find first. I have expensive paints, i have the cool paints in the paper (peerless watercolors), I have Prangs from the grocery store.

<Jandante> sometimes I even paint with dye ink pads, because they are here at the desk

<Jandante> the more expensive the paint, the more durable the color, though

<ariesse> *have to buy me some dye ink pads*

<ariesse> Ok!

<Jandante> so don't be painting a materpiece with dye ink pads. next year it will be faded

<stampverb> what if the surface starts to get dry before you have finished?

<Jandante> get a spray bottle with water and spritz it some

<Jandante> a spray bottle is part of my watercoloring gear

<Jandante> so after you salt your wash, you set it aside and DO NOT TOUCH IT until it is bone dry

<Jandante> like tomorrow.

<Jandante> not in a few minutes.

<Jandante> tomorrow

<stampverb> it's part of my personal survival gear on these hot days!

<Jandante> (this is the hardest part, waiting)

<Jandante> so set aside those salted paintings.

<Jandante> but you can see in the samples several salted skies

<Jandante> oh! and to prove how easy this is???

<Jambalaya> uh, the last time i did that, i put aside and forgot a bout about it for like um.... a year

<Jandante> see the bottom sample on the project one page?

<Jandante> the sky taped to a magazine?

<Jandante> lol i remember, and then you found it and it was very cool

<Jambalaya> it was!

<Jandante> Everybody see the salted sky taped to the magazine.

<stampverb> no

<Star> no

<ariesse> yes

<Star> where

<Jandante> My dear husband, under extreme duress, painted that so I could make a quicktime movie of him painting

<ariesse> http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/project1.html

<Jandante> very bottom of that page

<stampverb> ty

<Bibi> ty

<Jandante> he bitched and moaned about having to do that, and then I decided the movie was bad and didn't use it

<Jandante> but his sample sky is awesome

<hagedissi> The first time I saw the kitty to!

<Jandante> and that was the first time since he was a kid that he touched watercolors!

<cak> it is--I almost always oversalt

<Jandante> and he is NOT the artistic type

<Jandante> (he really is and he's really talented, and he refuses to do it at all because he's got a pharmacist's personality(

<Jandante> so if Mikie can do it, all of you can do it!

<Jandante> and isn't that a glorious sky?

<hagedissi> looks great

<Bibi> sure is!

<cak> it's just beautiful

<ariesse> vert neat!

<ariesse> or very...

<Jandante> I can just see something stamped on top of that and it becoming a masterpiece

<Jandante> anyway, that's what the salt looks like when it dries

<Jandante> the cool part is that you never know what it's going to do

<hagedissi> it takes away the paint

<stampverb> now i see the pictures you've been referring to!

<ariesse> can you still see the salt grains in the dried image?

<Jandante> now let's skip over to project 4. if you want to do the other projects you can just pick those up from the pictures.

<Jandante> well, you brush off all the salt, but most of the time you can still see a little sparkle

<Jandante> go here: http://www.cyberstampers.com/class/watercolor/project4.html

<Carlotta> Janet, this was fun but I have to go to bed. Thank you so much!

<ariesse> I have a question about project 3...

<Jandante> this page shows me painting a bunch of grapes, and shows how I painted them one. grape. at. a. time.

<Jandante> take care, see ya tomorrow.

<Carlotta> nite, all!

<Bibi> nite carlotta

<Jandante> yes? project three you just stamp in clear ink and emboss in clear ink and then do a wash on top?

<hagedissi> nite

<ariesse> Good night!

<Jandante> is that the one?

<Jandante> you make a resist of your pattern with clear embossing. then paint on top

<Jandante> you can also do this with rubber cement.

<ariesse> Oh, that's how you did it! I was just wondering how you could add the backgound after having stamped without ruining the stamped images, but you embossed it! Thanks!!

<ariesse> rubber cement?

<Jandante> try this: paint a flower with rubber cement. do a greeny leafy background all over it

<Jandante> after it's completely dry, rub off the rubber cement, this acted as a mask and the floweryou painted with it is still white

<Jandante> just paint some shadowing in the petals and voila! awesome original art!

<hagedissi> I don't knw rubber cement

<ariesse> Wow! I'm not sure where to get hold of rubber cement, though

<Jandante> uhhhhh it is glue, but looks like uh snot out of your nose

<hagedissi> can you use the stuff from shadow painting?

<Jandante> and it rubs off into little balls

<Jandante> if it is frisket.

<stampverb> some countries have removed rubber cement from the marketplace

<Jandante> go to the art store and ask for frisket

<Jambalaya> jaaaaaneeeeet

<Jandante> really??? why?

<ariesse> Then probably Sweden has...

<Jandante> I love to sniff rubber cement

<stampverb> the fumes are pretty bad for you

<Jandante> (well, it DOES look and feel like snot)

<hagedissi> or photoglue?

<Jandante> that figures. I love to sniff it.

<Jandante> yeah, photo glue, that will rub off into little balls when you rub it, won't it?

<Jandante> use that.

<hagedissi> yes!

<Jandante> that will be perfect

<ariesse> Hehe, just like the pens with spirits in them... :)

<ariesse> Ok, photo glue it is!

<Jandante> the project 2 was done by masking the snow part with rubber cement, photo glue will work

<Jandante> so mask off the snow, paint the sky, add in the tree line (salt the trees, it looks very cool when it dries)

<Jandante> and then after everything is dry, take a wet brush and drag down some of your pigment from your tree line into the snow as shadows

<Jandante> then stamp trees or snowmen or whatever

<hagedissi> is that the same way you have the light spots on the grapes?

<Jandante> now project 4, this shows painting in some grapes

<Jandante> oh I so cheat!

<Jandante> the white spots on the grapes???

<hagedissi> at the last photo there seemes to be lighter spots than in the photo before

<Jandante> after the first time to put the color around the edges, it is more intense around the edges, i take the corner of a paper towel...

<Jandante> and just barely hold the corner in the middle of the grape and it sucks up color

<Jandante> and leaves me a highlight

<hagedissi> how clever

<Jandante> uhhh oh yea, I forgot about that. I used white-out and painted in some highlights at the very end

<ariesse> such a trick!!

<hagedissi> oops

<Jandante> so the softer ones were done with the paper towel.

<Star> tricky

<hagedissi> tricky girl

<Jandante> and the ones in the front all bold

<Jandante> those have white-out on them

<Jandante> white-out is the stuff for typewriter mistakes at the office supply store

<stampverb> neato

<Jandante> OR!!!

<Jandante> another way to get highlights!

<Star> I can't wait to wake up tmr and try these things..thanks so much , Janet. I learned a lot even if it was 3am

<Jandante> I may have done this, too.

<Jandante> after it's all dry, take your x-acto knife and scrape you in some highlights

<hagedissi> It looks great!

<Jandante> I do that all the time. it adds a little texture and I get the bright lights I want

<MomCat> How does the white-out look in person?

<Jandante> it looks good, Momcat. I don't just leave it stark, I blot it with my paper towel

<Jandante> blend it into the painting

<MomCat> aah

<MomCat> and which variety do you use?

<Jandante> it's a cheater way, and truly no white-out looks better. Except if my highlights disappeared in paint I WANT MY HIGHLIGHTS!

<Jandante> so I'll make my highlights, by hook or by crook

<MomCat> lol

<stampverb> lol

<hagedissi> g

<Jandante> okay. look through the sample page and let me answer any questions.

<Jandante> this is soooo easy, just try it, don't let the paint intimidate you

<Bibi> the ones with worst fumes are the most fun to use, of course

<MomCat> but do you use regular white-out or pen and ink white-out?

<Jandante> OF COURSE!

<ariesse> It there some way I can save this conversation?

<Jandante> gee, Diane, I don't know, whichever one is on the desk at the time.

<MomCat> lol

<Jandante> CAK is here, she's saving a log. She'll have it on the transcript page soon

<cak> I'm logging it ariesse, it'll be posted soon

* MomCat hoards the Pen and Ink white-out

<ariesse> Thank you!!

<Jandante> And there are already at least six or seven watercolor classes on there.<g>

<hagedissi> you can select the tekst with your mouse and paste it into a word document

<Jandante> now ask questions, look at the sample page, if there's anything you want to know how to do, ask!

<cak> yeah, just save as text and voila!

<ariesse> Wow! Know I know what to do with the rest of the morning! :)

<Jandante> hmmm read transcripts or paint???<g>

<stampverb> the pictures are very helpful!

<cak> paint, paint, paint!

<Jandante> paint!!

<MomCat> How did you mix the skin color for Ophelia?

<ariesse> Read transcipts! I don't have allt he stuff needed for painting yet! :(

<cak> (well, sleep sleep sleep for me)

<Star> yea....night all; it was great

<cak> Night Star

<MomCat> night, Star

<ariesse> Well, I guess I could pain with what I have... :)

<Jandante> ohhhh let me think. It was brown and a touch of red and a touch of blue and a touch of yellow

<hagedissi> I really love the map sample

<Jandante> use ink pads. whatever works :)

<ariesse> What kind of brush do you use?

<MomCat> aah

<Jandante> if I say "whatever is on the desk" will you hit me?

<Jandante> I PREFER red sable round brushes

<hagedissi> lol

<Jandante> the cats prefer them too

<Jandante> (they eat them)

<Bibi> lll

<hagedissi> do they eat it?

<Jandante> Yes!

<ariesse> I do have some expensive watercolor paints that I got from my sister in law that I could use... *thinking*

<ariesse> Yep, that makes me hit you!

<Jandante> but you know? my best detail painting brush is one the cats ate and left like three bristles in

<hagedissi> lol

<Jandante> use them! expensive watercolor sets are not for saving!

<ariesse> Lol!

<Jandante> oh!

<Jandante> and if you find old watercolors and they are all dried up?

<Jandante> DO NOT THROW THEM AWAY!!!!!!

<hagedissi> add some water?

<ariesse> But I don't have any brushs, only a teeny one...

<Bibi> let the cat lick them?

<Jandante> I mean it, they are still good, just as good as the day they were born!

<hagedissi> lol

<ariesse> Bibi - lol!!

<cak> lol

<Jandante> add water!

<Jandante> pretend like those tubes are expensive cake watercolors, slice open the tubes and paint right out of the inside of the tube

<Jandante> I cry everytime someone says they found their watercolors and they were all dried up so they pitched them

<Jandante> NEVER throw away a watercolor!!!

<hagedissi> slice them open, never thought of that

<Jandante> and NEVER clean up your paint palette either!!!

<Jandante> let the paint dry on it and next time you have a little bit of pre-mixed perfect colors

<Bibi> you mean that can be done ??? (cleaning up paint palette)

<MomCat> LOL

<Jandante> for that matter, never paint directly out of a tube or a pan. always mix with water first

<hagedissi> if you had any perfect colors before

<Jandante> Well, mine wasn't cleaned when I moved here from college.

<Jandante> and I graduated just after Nixon resigned

<Jandante> I graduated before Anwar Sadat died

<hagedissi> g

<Bibi> man, that makes me feel young

<stampverb> on the Samples page, did you use salt on the one with tree trucks against a blue sky?

<Jandante> Bibi? bite me.<g>

<Jandante> yes!

<Jandante> See that one????

<Bibi> schomp

<Jandante> that's one of my favorites now. And that was such a failure!

<Rosem> I'm pooped....see you all tomorrow

<Jandante> my paper was too rough, my stamp didn't stamp worth crap, and I loved my sky, I wanted to cry

<Bibi> nite rosem

<Jambalaya> nite rosem

<Jandante> so I figured I didn't have anything to lose so I started to paint in the tree trunks

<stampverb> I am referring to the one right after the woman shaking out her laundry

<Jandante> I scraped off some bark here and there with the x-acto knife

<MomCat> nite Rosem

<Jandante> that's the one. that's the failure

<stampverb> ok

<Jandante> I even salted the tree trunks to see if I couldn't get more trunk-like texture

<Jandante> and miracle of miracles, it turned out seriously cool

<Jandante> it's one of my favorites

<stampverb> seriously!

<Jandante> so don't just give up if something stamps all screwy

<Bibi> it is a beauty

<Jandante> paint on top of the stamping until you either like it or you've really ruined it completely

<Jandante> chances are you'll like it

<hagedissi> and the one with the map?

<stampverb> how did the bark get so many shades of brown?

<Jandante> this looked HORRIBLE when I started.

<Jandante> uhhh partly from the salt, some from the x-acto knife i was scraping with

<Jambalaya> rosem fell asleep before she got out of her chair<g>

<ariesse> Where do you find the map one?

<Jandante> i think i got markers into the act too

<stampverb> ah, the ol' markers trick!

<Jandante> the map one, the stamp is an Enchanted Ink stamp. And the background is wrapping paper a present came in that I saved.

<Jandante> I needed a quick sample for something and just stuck that littl epainting on top of the wrapping paper.

<Bibi> toss the gidt, save the paper

<Jandante> i love it

<Bibi> gift

<hagedissi> fantastic

<Jandante> yeah, I have no clue what gift came in it now, but I've got the paper framed here

<hagedissi> never mind the gift, the paper is great, lol

<Jandante> packrat paper saver here<g>

<Bibi> we need a stamp like that (gift paper)

<Jandante> I love that

<MomCat> The one below the map, how did you do the tree reflections?

<hagedissi> In this minute I received my stamps from the Us i ordered with my giftsertificate of last week!!

<Jandante> y'all really need to paint. I love it so much and some of my stamped stuff I've painted I think is really good. It for sure was easy

<Jandante> WOW! What did you get???

<Jandante> open it! open it!

<hagedissi> A sheet with sayings from my heart .... ?? what was it again

<Jandante> from Just Jhone? Hearts in Touch?

<Jandante> I've seen the sheet. Stampsmith?

<hagedissi> yes that the one, from Frances

<Jandante> That is a great sheet of rubber.

<ariesse> Where do you live, hagedissi?

<Jandante> Now you can paint backgrounds and stamp them on top of it!

<hagedissi> The most beatiful line is: A friends eyes are a good mirrow

<hagedissi> in the Netherlands

<Jandante> oh. and it is so true, too

<Jandante> what town?

<hagedissi> Veldhoven

<hagedissi> near eindhoven

<Jandante> southern part?

<hagedissi> yes

<stampverb> what about the next sample?

<hagedissi> near the belgium border

<Jandante> wow. I've been looking in that area. I love going to Belgium and Netherlands.

<hagedissi> oke back to the waterpainting

<ariesse> Is the shipping from Stampsmith really expensive?

<Jandante> that stampscapes cabin in the woods, Verb?

<Jambalaya> i'm about to fall outta my chair , sweet dreams to all

<stampverb> i am too sleepy to stay awake

<Bibi> sweet dreams vicki

<stampverb> no, the one after the map

<Jandante> No, it is not, she'll put it in a global priority envelope, it will probably cost $10 shipping for sheets of rubber.

<Jandante> oh let me look again

<stampverb> oops, 2nd after map

<Jandante> that IS the one after the map

<stampverb> after cabin in woods

<Jandante> a cabin on a lake?

<stampverb> sorry

<Jandante> the one after that?

<Jandante> ohhhh so easy, verb.

<Jandante> paint rubber cement or photo glue for the ground.

<Jandante> do the sky blue and salt it just a little bit

<stampverb> although the one with the cabin inspires me to do that in different colors, like Northern Lights

<ariesse> *off to Stampsmith*

<Jandante> see the tree line on the horizon line?

<stampverb> yes

<Jandante> just dot heavy green paint right on the horizon line (where the masking is) and then salt them heavily

<Jandante> like lil piles of salt on top of each green dot

<Jandante> tomorrow or when it's completely dry, brush off all the salt

<hagedissi> ariesse the sheet is from Hearts in touch, they had no shipping costs last week

<stampverb> so first you had just the sky, then added green right over the blue sky?

<Jandante> then take off the snow masking and use a wet brush to pull down pigment from the tree line into the snow

<Jandante> then stamp a bit old tree on top

<Jandante> no, the green ground part I had masked off with rubber cement

<Jandante> so it was white

<Jandante> i put the tree line on top of the blue sky

<Jandante> so blue sky first, then green tree line

<stampverb> ok

<Jandante> then salt

<Jandante> then dry

<ariesse> hagedissi - So I'm too late for the no shipping costs now? :(

<hagedissi> It looks like a night with thousant stars

<Jandante> then take off salt and masking, move pigment down into the ground

<Jandante> stamp a big tree or two

<Jandante> done

<MomCat> the one with the cabin, how did you do the tree reflections?

<stampverb> wowser

<hagedissi> Don't know for how long the offer was

<ariesse> Do you know the url?

<MomCat> The offer might be good through the end of the convention

<Jandante> the tree reflections are part of the stamp. I just put a tiny bit of green in a very wet blue lake (that I painted the same time as the sky)

<hagedissi> I think www.heartsintouch.com

<MomCat> aaah ty

<ariesse> Thanks!!

<Jandante> oh yes! hearts in touch is free shipping to anywhere on earth through Sunday!

<Bibi> http://www.cyberstampers.com/convention/heartsintouch/

<Jandante> i did mask off the windows of that one, Diane.

<MomCat> Ariesse, we have classes every week at this time

<Bibi> says free shipping is for the conventinon week

<hagedissi> right in time for ariesse

<stampverb> very nice, Janet--and inspiring! Thanks

<ariesse> It is so nice of you huys to tell me this!!!

<stampverb> time for bed

<Jandante> and so cheated. after everything was dry and I rubbed off the window mask... i used a yellow marker to do the light from there

<stampverb> niters

<Jandante> i had the paint stuff put away. but the marker was right there on the desk

<MomCat> olo

<MomCat> lol

<hagedissi> olo?

<Jandante> that is one of my favorites, too

<Jandante> I did about 30 of those for cards

<Jandante> took me one evening to stamp them all

<Jandante> the next evening to paint them all

<Jandante> the third evening to do the yellow in the windows

<hagedissi> hard work

<Jandante> then a bloomin week to glue them onto cards

<Bibi> lol

<Jandante> the painting of it was the fastest step by far

<Jandante> I don't know why I thought I could do 30 of those

<Jandante> except the first one took me maybe 10 minutes tops

<Jandante> and it turned out so pretty

<hagedissi> how did you make the colors in the flowers with the really dark background?

<Jandante> let me look

<Jandante> oh! the last one on the page?

<hagedissi> bleach them first

<Jandante> that is an enchanted ink stamp and the sky is ink

<hagedissi> don«t know the pages

<Jandante> and the flowers and fairies are white line drawings

<Jandante> but the sky part is solid stamp

<hagedissi> there no fairies

<Jandante> so that was ink from stamping the stamp

<MomCat> I think she means the one above the pears

<Jandante> oh okay, let me look again<g>

<Jandante> oh!!!!

<hagedissi> yes

<Jandante> that was stamped on navy cardstock!

<Jandante> embossed

<Jandante> painted with watercolor mixed with pearl-ex

<hagedissi> ah pearl ex

<Jandante> it's the pearl ex that shows over the navy colored paper

<Bibi> no belacing necessary?

<Bibi> ah,,,,

<Jandante> never forget the wonders of mixing pearl ex in with your paint

<hagedissi> beautiful

<Bibi> never tried that

<MomCat> ariesse, if you send me your e-mail address at momcat@dm.net, I will send you announcements about the weekly classes at this time

<Jandante> and watercolors have a binder to them, so the pearl ex doesn't need a thing, no fixative or anything

<hagedissi> I like that to momcat!

<MomCat> sure, Heidi send me yours too

<hagedissi> ty

<Jandante> you are on eurostampers list, right?

<hagedissi> yes

<MomCat> yw

<Jandante> I thought so. So am I. I'm the one who told about the classes last week. or maybe the week before.

<hagedissi> that was my first time

<Jandante> I live in Texas but I love to travel and visit people. I've gone to see Hilde in Leuven several times now.

<hagedissi> this is my third

<Jandante> and I will be at Stempelmekka in September!

<Jandante> are you going to go?

<Jandante> to Hagen?

<hagedissi> YESS!

<Jandante> yay!!!!

<hagedissi> we must meet then!

<Bibi> I have forwarded announcements to Eurostampers, too. And Aridesse? I will try to remember Rubberstampsnack more often

<Jandante> party in my room on Friday night. I'll be at the Mercure across the street

<hagedissi> lol

<Bibi> partEE!

<Jandante> and we can stamp together there.

<hagedissi> I will arrive at Saterday

<Jandante> I'll bring stuff from the US

<Jandante> then you'll have to party with me on Saturday night.

<hagedissi> Have to talk to my sister about that

<hagedissi> and friends, we are driving with the four of us

<Jandante> Last time I brought gallons of the Future Floor Finish that everybody talks about that Europe doesn't have

<Bibi> well, gals, I need to go to bed now.

<hagedissi> Sounds interesting

<Jandante> bring bottles and I'll fill them up with the FFF

<Bibi> thanks, Janet!

<cak> Night Bibi

<hagedissi> bye bibi

<MomCat> Night, Bibi, sweet dreams

<Bibi> sweet dreams

<Jandante> me too Bibu

<Jandante> gooda niche?

<Bibi> see yas!

<cak> (I was strangely quiet, 'cause I just woke up from a leeeeettle nap)

<Bibi> god natt

<Jandante> how do I say that?

<Jandante> LOL!

<hagedissi> How big a bottle=

<Jandante> god natt

<Bibi> lol, cak

<MomCat> lol

<MomCat> Gutten Nacht

* Bibi has left the building

<Jandante> however big you want. Maybe a big one so you can share with other friends

<Jandante> I will probably bring a gallon of it.

<hagedissi> glassbottle or will plastic do=

<Jandante> and some 3 oz bottles if my pharmacist will remember to get me some

<ariesse> I have to shower now! Thanks for answering all my questions, and for teaching me a new tecnique!

<Jandante> plastic will do. I keep a small plastic pill bottle with what I use in it. It's easier to lift than that big bottle

<hagedissi> bye ariesse

<Jandante> Have fun painting! See you next week!!

<cak> bye ariesse

<MomCat> Thanks for coming Ariesse

<Jandante> or maybe tonight :)

<cak> come back next week

<Jandante> we have classes this evening, your evening CET

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