<MomCat> Trudy, Welcome
<cak> lol
<MomCat> Bibi! Yes that is great!!
<Trudy> Thank you
<cak> Were you able to attend yesterday's Color Wheel class Trucy
<Trudy> No, this is my first visit to Cyberstampers
<cak> uh, Trudy
<cak> (my typing stinks)
<cak> cool!
<cak> this is a good class to start with--lots of fun and informative
<MomCat> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html
<MomCat> Trudy that is the class page for today
<Trudy> I dont know how this works, but I think I`ll manage
<MomCat> and it has a link for yesterday's class
<MomCat> we look at the samples together and talk about it
<cak> I think you can click on the url and it will open another browser window to see the page
<Trudy> Is it the color wheel page
<Trudy> Hi stampesse
<Stampesse> hi:)
<Bibi> hi Stampesse
<Stampesse> hi Bibi
<Stampesse> why do you have those smileys with your names?
<MomCat> Hi Stampesse and MsProf!
<Stampesse> why havent I?
<Trudy> Hi Ms Prof
<Jambalaya> because we are staff
<MomCat> We have them because we are staff
<MsProf> hi!
<Trudy> What do we start with now
<cak> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html is the url for the class
<MsProf> thanks for ww
<Stampesse> oh okey
<Bibi> MomCat, do you want to wait a couple of minutes in case some are late for class?
<Trudy> Hi Gunvor15
<Gunvor15> hi ladies!
<Bibi> hej Gunvor
<Gunvor> hej Bibi!
<MomCat> yes, we shoul wait for a few minutes
<MomCat> Hi, Gunvor
<Gunvor> hi Momcat
<Trudy> Hi pmstamper
<Bibi> hi pmstamper
<pmstamper> Hi there
<Trudy> Hi Torhild
<Gunvor> hi pmstamper
<Gunvor> hi Torhild
<Torhild> Hi everybody!
<Trudy> Torhild, are you norwegian
<pmstamper> Hi there, Gunvor.
<MsProf> Hi Torhild, Gunvor... welcome all!
<Trudy> Hi Janet
<Gunvor> heyyyy Janet!
<cak> Janet (the non-zombie?)!
<Bibi> hi Janet
<Janet> Howdy, y'all!
<Janet> LOL I got an extra hour of sleep last night :)
<Torhild> yes i`m norvegian
<Trudy> Me too
<MomCat> Hi, Janet, Torhild and pmstamper
<MomCat> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html
<Torhild> Hi MomCat!
<Stampesse> me too!!
<cak> (this is a good time for European stampers to come to class, so we have a great international flavor now)
<MomCat> that is today's class page
<pmstamper> Hi MomCat, thanks for the page.
<Trudy> When do we start?
* Jambalaya tosses the caps to MomCat
<Torhild> brb baby crying
<Bibi> ok
<MomCat> HAS EVERY BODY FOUND THE PAGE
<Bibi> yup
<MomCat> IF YOU WEREN'T HERE YESTERDAY
<Bibi> hi verb
<Trudy> I` m sorry, but I have to go. Something came up here at home
<MomCat> THERE IS A LINK ON THAT PAGE TO THE COLOR WHEEL
<Stampesse> the card is so great! when I first looked at it I thought oh I cant do that...but when reading the instruction its so simple...even me can do it!!
<Bibi> ok
<Gunvor> ok Torhild!
<MomCat> BYE TRUDY TAKE CARE
<Bibi> come back later some time
<Trudy> I`ll be back tomorrow instead
<Bibi> great!
<cak> see you later Trudy
<Trudy> BYE
<MomCat> YOU'LL BE WELCOME
<cak> (come back soon)
<Bibi> ha det bra
<Stampesse> its so cool with such online classes...I didnt know they existed until recently!
<Bibi> they are indeed cool
<MomCat> tHIS CLASS STARTED BACKWARDS FOR ME
<MomCat> USUALLY i DECIDE ON A CLASS
<MomCat> AND THEN MAKE THE SAMPLE(s)
<MomCat> THIS TIME I MADE THE SCENE WITH THE GIRAFFE
<MomCat> THOUGHT THAT IT WAS SO EASY AND SO PRETTY THAT i SHOULD TEACH IT
<MomCat> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html
<MomCat> HI, STAR
<Star> ty
<MomCat> YW
<Bibi> glad you made that decition, MomCat!
<MomCat> SO THEN I HAD TO MAKE STEP BY STEP SAMPLES
<MomCat> TY, BIBI
<Bibi> yw
<MomCat> THE SUNSET IS ON WATERCOLOR PAPER
<MomCat> THE HILLS ARE CRUMPLED, TORN CONSTRUCTION PAPER
<MomCat> AND THE GIRAFFE WAS STAMPED ON REGULAR CARDSTOCK AND CUT OUT
<MomCat> THE SUNSET IS PAINTED ON DRY PAPER
<MomCat> WITH JUST CHEAP, KIDS WATERCOLOR PAINTS
<Bibi> cool (cheap is good..lol)
<MomCat> FIRST YOU PAINT A WIDE BAND OF YELLOW
<MomCat> A LITTLE LOWER THAN YOU WANT THE SUNSET TO START
<MomCat> ALONG THE TOP OF THE YELLOW BAND, PAINT A BAND OF RED
<MomCat> BLEND THE RED AND YELLOW BANDS TOGETHER, USING MORE PAINT OR PLAIN WATER
<MomCat> NOW WE WANT TO ADD BLUE SO WE CAN HAVE BLUE AND VIOLET AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE
<MomCat> BUT IF WE ADD THE BLUE RIGHT ONTO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE
<MomCat> SOME OF THE BLUE IS GOING TO MINGLE WITH THE ORANGE
<MomCat> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html
<MomCat> AND BLUE AND ORANGE WE LEARNED YESTERDAY ARE COMPLEMENTS
<MomCat> THAT IS, THEY ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER ON THE COLOR WHEEL
<MomCat> AND WHEN YOU MIX COMPLEMENTS
<MomCat> YOU GET A SORT OF BROWNISH, GREY MUD COLOR
<MomCat> SO PAINT ANOTHER BAND OF RED AND BLEND IT A LITTLE INTO THE ORANGE
<MomCat> AND THEN PAINT A BAND OF BLUE AND BLEND IT WITH THE TOP OF THE SECOND RED BAND
<MomCat> IF YOUR COLOR ISN'T AS BRIGHT AS YOU WANT IT IN SOME PLACES
<MomCat> YOU CAN ADD MORE
<MomCat> AND IF IT IS TOO BRIGHT
<pmstamper> is there such a thing as too much water on the paper?
<MomCat> YOU CAN DAB AT IT WITH A CLEAN PAPER TOWEL IF IT IS STILL WET
<MomCat> OR ADD WATER IF IT HAS ALREADY DRIED
<MomCat> PM
<MomCat> YOU HAVE TOO MUCH WATER IF YOUR PAPER BUCKLES
<pmstamper> ok, thanks. I tried the paper towel to sop some up.
<MomCat> BUT FOR SOME TECHNIQUES YOU WANT TO MAKE THE PAPER VERY WET
<MomCat> SO YOU CAN FASTEN THE PAPER ONTO YOUR DESK WITH MASKING TAPE BEFORE YOU START
<MomCat> YOU PRETTY MUCH ALWAYS NEED MASKING TAPE FOR JANET'S WATERCOLOR CLASSES
<MomCat> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html
<MomCat> ANY QUESTIONS
<Bibi> not yet
<MomCat> HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING ALONG WITH THIS?
<stampster> i am
<Jambalaya> i have before, fun, isn't it?
<cak> I like to tape things down just to keep from chasin' the silly thing around the desk top
<Stampesse> I¬m just reading....its no room to do anything here at the pc:(
<pmstamper> i am
<MomCat> STAMPSTER, I JUST WENT THROUGH THE TECHNIQUE
<cak> How are they coming out stampster and pmstamper?
<MomCat> BUT IT'S ALSO THERE ON THE PAGE
<MomCat> AND SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE LEARNED IT JUST FROM THE PAGE
<Janet> can I say something real quick?
<stampster> coming out nice
<MomCat> pLEASE
<MomCat> GOOD
<MomCat> PLEASE, DO, JANET
<pmstamper> mine is looking good.
<pmstamper> after help from the quicker picker upper paper towel.
<MomCat> JANET?
<cak> oops, she'll be back
<Bibi> ooops, she fell off
<Gunvor> strap her to the chair
<MomCat> THAT EXPLAINS WHY IT WASN'T SO QUICK
* Jambalaya looks trough the pipe
<Bibi> lol
<MomCat> PLEASE DO SHARE jANET
<MomCat> JANET IS OUR WATERCOLOR GURU
<Janet> LOL
<Star> I can't type in my message...help
<Janet> yeah. I was just going to say that if you have your paper stretched (taped to the desk or a work surface) that it may buckle with a lot of water, but will dry again flat
<Star> ok, it is working...yeah
<Janet> so don't untape it before it's dry
<Jambalaya> star, you just did
<Janet> that was it. not worth the wait<g>
<Star> ;)you know Star
<pmstamper> ty Janet
<MomCat> YES IT WAS
<Bibi> good tip there, janet
<cak> it will stay buckled if you do? (good thing to know)
<Bibi> I usually cannot wait....
<Star> do I put the blue above the orange? I am behind
<MomCat> BECAUSE i DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD DRY FLAT EVEN IF IT BUCKLED WHILE TAPED
<Janet> well, yeah, if you untape it when it's buckled, it will dry buckled.
<Janet> nothing making it straighten up and fly right
<MomCat> YOU PUT A SECOND BAND OF RED
<Janet> so soak those papers!
<MomCat> AND BLEND THE BOTTOM OF IT INTO THE ORANGE
<Star> oops...over the yellow?
<MomCat> BLUE
<MomCat> RED
<MomCat> RED
<MomCat> YELLOW
<MomCat> LIKE THAT
<Star> ok...got it
<MomCat> SOME DAY i AM GOING TO TRY THIS TO MAKE AN OCEAN SCENE
<stampster> that would really be pretty
<Janet> (use salt to get the ocean white caps)
<MomCat> WHAT COLORS WOULD I NEED TO PAINT AN OCEAN?
<stampverb> and add a Speedo to the giraffe?
<Jambalaya> blue
<Janet> well, what colors do you see?
<Jambalaya> green
<MomCat> WOULD I NEED GREEN PAINT?
<Janet> gray? brown? what color is the sky today?
<MomCat> WHAT COLORS OF PAINT WOULD i NEED
<Jambalaya> i guess it could depend on the ocean<g>
<Bibi> yellow, red, blue
<MomCat> yES!!! BIBI!!!
<Bibi> and mix your own
<Bibi> what did I win? lol
<Janet> okay, bibi, you got it covered<g>
<Bibi> yep
<Bibi> I had a good teacher (MomCat)
* MomCat PASTES A GOLD STAR ON bIBI'S FOREHEAD
<Bibi> LOL! thanks
<Janet> cute!!
<Bibi> very
<stampster> yeah bibi
<MomCat> OKAY
<Bibi> okay...
<MomCat> ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
<pmstamper> I am getting some harsh lines, what should I do to blend it?
<Janet> water!!
<MomCat> ADD A LITTLE WATER WITH YOUR BRUSH
<Janet> your paper was too dry sounds like
<pmstamper> okeydokey
<Janet> add a lotta water<g>
<Gunvor> could one use waterpens for this?
<MomCat> WATER BRUSHES?
<Gunvor> ah yes - sorry
<MomCat> BRUSHES WITH WATER IN THE HANDLE
<Gunvor> yup
<MomCat> PROBABLY
* Gunvor has bought something she doesn't know how to use
<Star> how do you get more water in the handle? mine is getting dry? any tips?
<cak> Gunvor's not the only one
<MomCat> i HAVE NEVER USED THOSE
<pmstamper> that is what I am trying
<Star> they are great if you can figure out how to get the water in the handle ...lol
<Jambalaya> star, i'll tell you after class
<stampster> i have them but never have used them yet
<MomCat> WHO HERE HAS USED AND LIKES THE WATER BRUSHES?
<cak> the ones I have unscrew so you can refill the barrel
<cak> I've only played with them--not really used them
<Gunvor> sounds like mine
<Bibi> I like them for bleach, but not watercoloring
<MomCat> TELL US NOW, jAM IF YOU LIKE
<MomCat> HE GE
<MomCat> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html
<pmstamper> I have used them with alcohol in them to blend dye inks on dominos, but not watercoloring.
<Jambalaya> to fill waterbrush, you squeeze it and put it in a glass of water, it will suck up the water
<Star> ok.....I was just trying the sucking from a small dish...ty
<Jambalaya> or, you can just squeeze it under running tap, it sucks as you let go
<pmstamper> Another question?
<MomCat> YES?
<pmstamper> If you want to make a color more intense, should you wait until it totally dries before adding more color?
<MomCat> jANET?
<Janet> yes?
<Janet> oh want me to answer that?
<MomCat> i DON'T THINK SO, PM, BUT i WOULD REALLY LOAD THE BRUSH WITH COLOR AND NOT MUCH WATER
<Janet> no, Pat. for this sky don't let your paper dry at all until you're happy
* Jambalaya hands janet more coffee
<MomCat> YES, PLEASE JANET
<MomCat> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html
<cak> you would get "dry lines" if you let it dry?
<pmstamper> thanks. I am getting to particular about my sky probably.
<Janet> Get your papers really wet, seriously wet, then float your colors on the water. don't make puddles. if you get puddles get a paper towel and sop up the puddle
<MomCat> fOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAME IN LATE, SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE LEARNED HOW TO DO THIS JUST FROM LOOKING AT THE CLASS PAGE
<MomCat> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html
<Janet> then keep putting on color until you're happy with it
<Jambalaya> and remember too, that watercolors dry a bit lighter
<MomCat> IT'S REALLY FUN AND EASY
<Janet> perzactly, Vicki
<stampverb> Mom, your sample was done with DRY paper, right?
<ge> :d
<MomCat> YES
<ge> :d
<MomCat> I AM A DRY PAPER PERSON
<MomCat> EXCEPT IF I AM IN JANET'S CLASS
<stampverb> lol
<Janet> LOL then I'm saying water, more water, water is your friend!!
<MomCat> THE FIRST TIME I DID A SUNSET THAT FADED FROM YELLOW TO BLUE THIS WAY
<Janet> they don't call 'em paper colors. put more water on that!!
<Janet> LOL I am a water person with skies
<MomCat> I DID IT IN A COMPUTER GRAPHICS PROGRAM
<Janet> I like them to blend
* Jambalaya straps ge in the chair
<MomCat> AND i KEPT RUNNING OUT SIDE TO LOOK AT THE SKY
<MomCat> THEN i HAD THE COMPUTER PICTURE TO LOOK AT WHEN i DID THE WATER COLOR
<Janet> you got the important part right, Diane. LOOKING
<MomCat> HI, ANNIE
<Annie> hello
<MomCat> CLASS PAGE IS AT http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html
<MomCat> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html
<Annie> Thanks
<MomCat> YOU'RE WELCOME
<MomCat> WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH FINISHED GOING THROUGH THE TECHNIQUE, BUT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LEARN THIS FROM THE CLASS PAGE
<MomCat> AND THE CLASS PAGE HAS A LINK TO MY COLOR WHEEL CLASS PAGE
<Jambalaya> ge, stop pressing the blue flower, that's what's knocking you out
<MomCat> I TEACH THE COLOR WHEEL CLASS AND THIS CLASS ON THE FIRST sATURDAY AND SUNDAY OF EVERY CONVENTION
<MomCat> SO PAINT LOTS OF SUNSETS EVERYBODY
<MomCat> PUT THEM UP ON A PAGE
<Gunvor> we will MomCat
<Star> thanks MomCat....it was fun
<MomCat> AND SHARE THEM WITH US IN THE SPRING
<stampster> thanks for sharing this was my first time here doing a convention class
<MomCat> YOU ARE WELCOME
<Bibi> okay, will do
<cak> you're doing more watercolor fun tonight, aren't you Janet?
<Janet> No, not until next weekend.
<cak> cool stampster--there's lots more
<cak> oh no! I was all set to get wet
<stampster> i will definitely be back
<MomCat> gREAT!
<Janet> But we can have watercolor lab every afternoon (evening if you're in Europe)
* Jambalaya squirts water on cak
<Bibi> lol
<cak> wheeee!
<cak> that sounds like fun Janet
<Star> every afternoon? really? when?
<cak> (even if I can only color virtually in the afternoon)
<Stampesse> sounds great!!
<Janet> it will be. come to the 10 minute project class, that's every afternoon at 3 (or 9 p.m. if you're in Paris)
<Janet> then after that class, if there's not another class after it, we can have lab
<pmstamper> cool.
<Jambalaya> cool
<Star> hey, cool
<stampster> yep way cool
<cak> very cool. Thank you Janet
<cak> I guess I should try out some more watercolor!
<Janet> and I'm sure you all were already planning to come to 10 Minute Projects class :)
<Jambalaya> i'll be ther!
<Janet> Yes, Charlotte. Bring your paints.
<Bibi> ju betcha
<Gunvor> but of course Janet!
<cak> of course--those are fun too. (and quick, you don't lie)
<Star> For a long time I have been trying to get into chat and could not...so, I am happy to be here
<MomCat> OKAY,
<stampster> me2
<Janet> yay Star!!
<pmstamper> I like this technique, MomCat. It is a quick way to lay down some color on a background for card.
<Star> quick and pretty.....what a good combination
<pmstamper> And it looks like it took a lot of work to do.
<cak> you'll just have to keep coming back (practice, practice, practice)
<Annie> When is the next class?
<pmstamper> yes, I definitely need more watercoloring practice, haven't done this since highschool.
<MomCat> i'LL SEND A NOTE ABOUT THAT OUT TO THE EURO STAMPERS ON MY ANNOUNCEMENT LIST IN A COUPLE OF HOURS
<Gunvor> thanks for a great class MomCat!
<cak> this background would be good for trading cards too
<MomCat> THANKS FOR COMING EVERYBODY
<Jambalaya> http://www.cyberstampers.com/schedule.html
<stampster> yes thanks was very informative
<MomCat> THANK you, GUNVOR
<Janet> you could do a whole page of this, but use your masking tape to divide the page up into trading card sizes
<Gunvor> thanks for having us!
<Janet> I've done that before
<Stampesse> yeah thank
<Stampesse> s
<stampverb> once you start painting sunsets, you realize how complex they really are in real life--how MANY colors!
<cak> Thanks MomCat, yet again--I love easy and elegant
<stampster> till next time
<Janet> start looking at the sky!!!
<cak> oooo yeah Janet--instant border
<Star> I have a great watercolor story...my mom had alzheimers and I would find her sitting in her chair painting in the air. I would ask her what she was painting and she'd always answer....sunsets
<cak> (i see it! I see the UFO!)
<Janet> (that's no UFO, that's the neighbor's cat)
<cak> I bet they were beautiful Star
<pmstamper> that is so sweet, Star.
<Janet> I know they were beautiful
<cak> (lol Janet)
<Star> she is up there painting the sunsets now...she was a painter
<Star> still is, I suspect
<Bibi> :)
<stampster> ;)
<Janet> I'm sure she is. there are so many evenings I know angel painters are helping with that sky
<stampster> bye till next time
<Janet> see you all next class!
<Jambalaya> come back soon
<Stampesse> byeeee
<Bibi> bye Stampster
<Janet> (that I don't know when it is but I'll look and be here)
<pmstamper> thanks again MomCat. See y'all later tonight.
<Jambalaya> and check schedule daily
<MomCat> Star, that is beautiful
<Jambalaya> http://www.cyberstampers.com/schedule.html
<stampverb> MomCat, I like your hint about keeping the complementary colors from making mud
<MomCat> thanks
<Star> yes, mud was a good hint
<MomCat> surprisingly I did not learn that the hard way
<stampverb> that happens to me when I use the super-wet approach
<Janet> (I did)
<MomCat> thanks for coming all
<MomCat> i need to leave now
<Bibi> thank you for having us!
<Star> ok, thanks again, I am gong to look at the vendor list and schedule again...hope I can get back in
<stampverb> so maybe i'll have better luck staying dry!
<Bibi> ok, bye MomCat
<Janet> yes, I need to make samples for tomorrow's class
<MomCat> see you around cyberstampers this evening
<stampverb> thanks for the class, Mom!
<Bibi> bye all
<Janet> we'll be looking for you, Star
<cak> lots of socials tonight!
<Bibi> see ya around
<Torhild> gee I missed it all
<Jambalaya> did you get the class page Torhild?
<Torhild> yes I did
<cak> well, the log will be posted (as soon as I get the icons ready) and MomCat teaches this during each convention
<cak> not the same as being here, but better than nothing
<Jambalaya> and mom is around often, you can always ask her questions
<Jambalaya> and janet too
<MomCat> Bye all
<Jambalaya> bye mom
<Torhild> by mom
<Jambalaya> hi Anita
<Anita> Hi
<Jambalaya> class is over, sorry
<Torhild> well I think I will go I find my watercolors I try this out.
<Anita> I'm sorry too...=(
<cak> have fun Torhild!
<Jambalaya> great Torhild
<cak> http://www.dm.net/~cak/colormixing/000819alt.html is the class page. You should be able to get a good start with just MomCat's instructions
<Torhild> bye
<Anita> We lost the power supply...
<Jambalaya> i hate that
<cak> how disappointing--not a thing you can do about that
<Anita> it went all dark for two hours..
<Anita> brrrr
<cak> our furnace is out and so I'm glad I've got a very warm laptop as a heat source
<cak> there's chat in #cyberstampers if you just want to hang out Anita
<cak> (do you know how to change rooms?)
<Anita> I click on cyberstampers?
<cak> you do! you may want to come back and leave this room after you join #cyberstampers
Log file closed at: 10/26/03 2:15:29 PM