Log file opened at: 2/21/04 2:29:30 PM

<glitrbug> Oh my, I just don't see how I am going to get to the gym today, Or this week. LOL

<cak> just consider this week mental/artistic exercise

<glitrbug> Yes! Good for the soul!

<LauraK> or put all your rubberstamps in a bucket and lift that! :)

<cak> lol

<glitrbug> Like I could lift that much

<LauraK> *LOOOL*

<cak> Hiya teach

<Jambalaya> hiya mom!

<Bibi> hi, MomCat!

<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html

<MomCat> Hi!

<Milla> Hi MomCat!

<MomCat> ARE WE READY?

<LauraK> YEEEEEES!

<LauraK> :)

<Judy> yep

<LauraK> *hug*

<Milla> yep!

<faberinth> I 'm new at this.

<Jambalaya> click on the url to see class page

<cak> I've not used the webchat, you just click on a url and the page comes up in a new browser window?

<Jambalaya> yes

<cak> (Jamba's psychic! thanks)

<Annie> hi

<Bibi> hi

<Jambalaya> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html

<MomCat> HI, ANNIE AND MONICA

<MomCat> FABERINTH, WHERE ARE YOU?

<faberinth> ,2I'm in Palm Desert, CA

<MomCat> GREAT!

<faberinth> Whoops, I pushed the wrong button

<MomCat> IM IN lOS ANGELES

<cak> lol

<faberinth> Use to be I lived there in the Valley

<MomCat> K

<MomCat> WE'LL GIVE mILLA A MINUTE TO GET BACK

<Bibi> ok

<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html

<MomCat> WE WILL START IN 2 MINUTES

<Bibi> okays

<LauraK> ah, back in time :) Had to feed my furry children :)

<MomCat> tHIS CLASS IS HELD ON THE FIRST SATURDAY OF EVERY CONVENTION

<MomCat> AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO COME TO IT EVERY TIME

<faberinth> Wow, must be great

<faberinth> Or some of us have nothing better todo.

<MomCat> BECAUSE THE INPUT FROM EVERYBODY BRINGS OUT A LITTLE DIFFERENT INFORMATION EVERY TIME

<faberinth> Aha!

<LauraK> i am definitely looking forward to this one

<MomCat> SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OF A COMMENT, FEEL FREE TO JOIN IN

<MomCat> AND REMEMBER i TYPE SLOW

<Bibi> and I read slowly. perfect!

<MomCat> BUT IF YOU ASK A QUESTION i WILL GET TO IT

<MomCat> A QUESTION i HERE FROM STAMPERS A LOT IS: "WHAT COLORS GO TOGETHER?"

<LauraK> was just thinking about that one tonight!!

<LauraK> this will really help me!

<MomCat> tHE ANSWER IS: "tHE COLORS YOU OR THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OF YOUR ART LIKE"

<LauraK> *smile*

<Annie> :)

<MomCat> THERE IS =NO= "WRONG" COLOR SCHEME

<MomCat> THAT WORD LOOKS WRONG SO LET'S SAY THERE IS NO WRONG COLOR COMBINATION

<MomCat> THERE ARE SOME BASIC GUIDELINES THAT YOU CAN USE HOWEVER

<MomCat> AND THEY ARE BASED ON THE COLOR WHEEL

<MomCat> WHEN TALKING ABOUT PAINT, THERE ARE THREE COLORS YOU =HAVE= TO BUY

<MomCat> BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MIX THEM FROM OTHER COLORS

<MomCat> THEY ARE RED, YELLOW AND BLUE

<Jambalaya> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html

<MomCat> THE ARE CALLED "PRIMARY" COLORS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE FIRST COLORS YOU NEED

<MomCat> I KNOW THAT SOME ART SCHOOLS NOW (ESPECIALLY IN EUROPE) TEACH THAT THE PRIMARY COLORS ARE CYAN, MAGENTA AND YELLOW

<faberinth> 0I think those are the colors of computer ink.

<MomCat> YES THEY ARE

<MomCat> BUT IN THE CLASSES YOU TAKE HERE

<MomCat> WE USE RED, YELLOW AND BLUE

<MomCat> BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE COLORS OUR PAINTS COME IN

<MomCat> SO THAT IS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT FOR MY CLASS ON PAINTING SUNSETS TOMORROW

<MomCat> AND FOR JANET'S WATERCOLOR CLASSES

<MomCat> TOMORROW, WE WILL PAINT A SUNSET, USING ONLY RED, YELLOW AND BLUE PAINT

<MomCat> I WILL GIVE YOU THE URL WITH THE SUPPLY LIST AT THE END OF THIS CLASS

* Bibi loves that one

<faberinth> 0Cool

<faberinth> 0What time is that one

<MomCat> tHE NEXT SET OF COLORS ARE THE SECONDARY COLORS

<MomCat> SAME AS THIS ONE, TOMORROW

<Jambalaya> http://www.cyberstampers.com/schedule.html

<Annie> Bibi.. hvilken tid er det i Norge?

<Bibi> 4 pm est

<Bibi> 22:00 CET (Norway(

<faberinth> 0Thanks

<Annie> thanks

<Bibi> yw

<MomCat> bIBI, DO YOU STILL HAVE THIS CLASS UP ON YOUR SITE?

<Bibi> I dont think so

<MomCat> K

<Bibi> for the Norwegian text?

<MomCat> YES

<Bibi> lemme go see

<MomCat> tHE THREE SECONDAY COLORS ARE ORANGE, VIOLET AND GREEN

<MomCat> AND THEY ARE EACH MADE BY MIXING 2 PRIMARY COLORS

<MomCat> RED AND YELLOW FOR ORANGE

<Bibi> no, sorry.

<MomCat> YELLOW AND BLUE FOR GREEN

<MomCat> K, THANKS FOR CHECKING

<Bibi> np

<MomCat> AND BLUE AND RED FOR VIOLET

<MomCat> ANY QUESTIONS?

<Bibi> not yet..

<faberinth> 0Sounds like my 7th grade art class:)

<MomCat> i WAS LUCKY AND LEARNED IT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL TOO

<MomCat> BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T :(

<Bibi> yeah, true dat

<Bibi> and some forget

<MomCat> THE THIRD LEVEL OF COLORS ARE CALLED TERTIARY

<MomCat> AND ARE SHOWN ON THE CLASS PAGE AS SQUARES

<MomCat> EACH ONE IS MADE BY MIXING A PRIMARY COLOR AND A SECONDARY COLOR

<MomCat> AND THEY HAVE COMPOUND NAMES WITH THE PRIMARY COLOR COMING FIRS

<MomCat> RED-ORANGE

<MomCat> YELLOW-ORANGE

<MomCat> YELLOW-GREEN

<MomCat> BLUE-GREEN

<MomCat> BLUE-VIOLET AND RED-VIOLET

<MomCat> ANY QUESTIONS?

<Bibi> nope

<MomCat> NOW WE ARE READY FOR THE COLOR SCHEMES

<Judy> all clear so far

<LauraK> still doing well :)

<MomCat> THE FIRST AND SIMPLEST IS WHAT WE CALL COMPLEMENTARY COLORS

<MomCat> THEY ARE PAIRS OF COLORS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER ON THE WHEEL

<Bibi> hi bubba

<bubba> hi bibi

<bubba> hi mom cat

<MomCat> THESE PAIRS ARE ALWAYS EITHER A PRIMARY AND A SECONDARY COLOR

<Jambalaya> http://www.cyberstampers.com/schedule.html

<Bibi> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html

<MomCat> OR TWO TERTIARY COLORS

<Jambalaya> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html

<MomCat> BUBBA, DO i KNOW YOU FROM ANOTHER HOBBY

<MomCat> ?

<Jambalaya> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html

<bubba> no ma am

<bubba> from the cyber conventions

<bubba> <<steve

<MomCat> AHA

<MomCat> WELCOME

<bubba> ty

<MomCat> THERE ARE SOME VERY WELL KNOWN COMPLEMENTARY COLOR SCHEMES

<MomCat> CAN YOU THINK OF SOME?

<Bibi> Christmas

<Judy> Christmas - red and green

<MomCat> YES!

<faberinth> 0Red/Green in Pizza adds

<Bibi> Statoil, blue and orange

<bubba> purple and gold!

<Judy> Easter - purple and yellow

<MomCat> YES!

<Judy> Bibi - what is Statoil?

<Bibi> Norwegian oil company *s*

<faberinth> 0Like Union 76

<Judy> ahhhh - ty

<MomCat> MAYBE A RELATIVE OF UNION 76 OIL

<Bibi> yw lol

<MomCat> WHICH ALSO USES ORANGE AND BLUE

<Bibi> never heard of that one

<MomCat> BUT WE NEVER HEARD OF STATOIL EITHER :)

<Bibi> we learn something new ever day :)

<MomCat> YUP

<LauraK> and me.. haven't heard of either! *laughing*

<faberinth> 0Must visit Norway, add to "to do" list

<MomCat> WHEN YOU SEE THE COLOR PAIRS IN USE

<MomCat> TAKE A SECOND LOOK

<Bibi> lol, faberinth.

<MomCat> AND THINK ABOUT THE IMPRESSION YOU GET FROM THEM

<bubba> gb ladies will check back in later........sneeks out

<MomCat> UNION OIL USES A BRIGHT ORANGE AND A STRONG BLUE

<Bibi> I see "action"

<MomCat> YES

<faberinth> 0Provides good contrast, sharp, clear

<MomCat> I DON'T LIKE THAT COMBO

<MomCat> JANET ON THE OTHER HAND DOES LIKE IT

<MomCat> SO AGAIN, COLOR COMBOS ARE A MATER OF PERSONAL TASTE

<Bibi> I like some, but not all

<MomCat> THEY ARE ALSO A MATTER OF WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO

<faberinth> 0They use it with a lot of white

<Bibi> red/green for Xmas decorations, fine. red/green on a card? yikes.

<MomCat> I MIGHT CHOOSE THE BRIGHT ORANGE AND BLUE COMBO

<faberinth> 0Without the white it is garish

<MomCat> TO MAKE AN ADVERTISEMENT

<MomCat> BECAUSE, IT IS MEMORABLE

<MomCat> AND WHENEVER I SEE THOSE COLORS I THINK OF THAT COMPANY

<MomCat> SO I DON'T WANT IT IN MY FURNITURE, CLOTHING OR ART

<Bibi> right

<MomCat> BUT FOR ADVERTISING, IT'S GREAT

<faberinth> 0So the purpose influences selection

<MomCat> ABSOLUTELY

<MomCat> AND PLEASING YOURSELF OR SOMEBODY YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE YOUR ART TO

<MomCat> IS ALSO A PURPOSE THAT IFLUENCES SELECTION

<faberinth> 0like for little girls who love pink and purple

<Judy> or sisters that like peach and blue

<MomCat> EXACTLY

<Jambalaya> and sometimes it good to use colors off the norm, just to shake up your muse

<MomCat> YES

<faberinth> 0or the recipient

<MomCat> AS A CHALLENGE TO YOURSELF

<MomCat> LOL

<Bibi> yup

<MomCat> BIBI, ABOUT RED AND GREEN

<Bibi> yes?

<MomCat> MANY OF US DO USE RED AND GREEN ON CHRISTMAS CARDS

<Bibi> I know...

<faberinth> 0or for a red flower with leaves

<MomCat> AND YOU MIGHT ALSO USE THEM WITH AN IMAGE OF A RED ROSE

<Bibi> that's true

<MomCat> BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THEM

<Jambalaya> i had a friend who once had a red and green jaquard sofa

<MomCat> SANTA HAS A BRIGHT RED SUIT

<Jambalaya> eeeeewwwwww

<Jambalaya> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html

<MomCat> BUT THE GREENERY OF CHRISTMAS IS MORE SUBDUED

<Bibi> wine red/burgundy and dark green is pretty to me, but "pure" red with green is not. just a matter of taste.

<Bibi> yes

<MomCat> YES, PURE RED AND PURE GREEN ARE NOT PRETTY TO ME EITHER

<Bibi> hurts me eyes

<faberinth> 0Bibi, those tones are more sophisticated

<MomCat> BUT IF THEY ARE PRETTY TO SOMEBODY ELSE HERE

* Bibi is very sophisticated. LOL

<LauraK> i sometimes wish that people used more different shades of green in xmas cards.. they mostly seem to be the dark green..

<MomCat> THAT'S GREAT AND THAT'S A "CORRECT" COLOR SCHEME FOR YOU IF YOU LIKE IT

<faberinth> 0Sometimes our choices are limited by the available cardstocks

<MomCat> LAURAK, WHY DON'T YOU DESIGN SOME AND TEACH ABOUT THEM AT THE FALL CON

<MomCat> COLOR CHOISES DO NOT HAVE TO BE LIMITED BY THE AVAILABLE CARD STOCKS

<Bibi> hey, great idea! Laura, say yes.

<Jambalaya> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html

<MomCat> IF i WANT A CARD STOCK TO EXACTLY MATCH AN IMAGE

<MomCat> I COLOR WHITE CARDSTOCK WITH THE SAME INK PAD

<MomCat> I USED FOR THE IMAGES

<faberinth> 0Great idea!

<LauraK> eeeeek!

<faberinth> 0Do you use dye or pigment ink?

<LauraK> I can try....

<LauraK> :)

<LauraK> are you sure about that?

<Bibi> great!!

<Bibi> let's talk after class, and yes, we are :)

<MomCat> I THINK USUALLY i HAVE USED DYE

<MomCat> OOPS WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME

<faberinth> 0What method do you use to color the paper?

<MomCat> aSK ME LATER IN CHAT PLEASE

<LauraK> *smile* wow! super :)

<faberinth> 0How do I get to "chat"

<Jambalaya> we can touch on this subject in next class

<MomCat> IN FACT Y'ALL HAVE FASCINATED ME SO MUCH

<MomCat> THAT i GOT BEHIND

<MomCat> SO LET ME QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THE REST WITHOUT QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE

<LauraK> ok

<Bibi> ok

<MomCat> AND WE CAN DISCUSS THESE TOMORROW IN THE COLOR MIXING CLASS IF i DON'T MAKE THEM CLEAR

<MomCat> THE NEXT COMBO IS THE SPLIT COMPLIMENTARY

<MomCat> WHICH IS A COLOR LIKE RED

<MomCat> AND THE COLORS ON EITEHR SIDE OF IT'S COMPLIMENT

<MomCat> SO RED, YELLOW-GREEN AND BLUE-GREEN

<MomCat> THE NEXT IS ANALOGOUS

<MomCat> WHICH IS COLORS THAT ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER ON THE WHEEL

<MomCat> LIKE BLUE, BLUE-GREEN AND GREEN

<MomCat> AND THE LAST IS MONOCHROMATIC

<MomCat> WHICH IS DIFFERENT SHADES OF ONE COLOR

<MomCat> LIKE RED SHADING FROM VERY LIGHT TO VERY DARK

<MomCat> AND i THINK WE FINISHED EXACTLY ON TIME

<MomCat> :)

<LauraK> thank you for a really nice class!!

<MomCat> tHANKS FOR COMING AND FOR YOUR CO-OPERATION

<faberinth> 0with moments to spare

<faberinth> 0Thanks, MomCat

<Jambalaya> NEXT EVENT IS IN #craftclass

<MomCat> WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LEAVE 5 MINUTES

<MomCat> YOU'RE ALL WELCOME

<cak> Nice job again MomCat!

<MomCat> ON TO craftclass

<Bibi> thanks, MomCat!!

<MomCat> thanks

<MomCat> you're welcome

<Jambalaya> NEXT EVENT IS IN #craftclass

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