<BEEZY> what kind of surgery charson??
<BlackCats> hi, cak
<charson> total knee replacement of the right knee,
<MomCat> cak!
<BEEZY> hey cak
<charson> now I am bionic
<BlackCats> yeah, you can find folks hanging out here at all times of day or night
<cak> hiya
<MomCat> ready?
<Paivi> yes!
<Artsy> Yes!
<cak> whenever you are
<charson> yes
<BlackCats> yes
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<MomCat> That's the sample colorwheel
<MomCat> Red, yellow and blue are the primary colors
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<EvieNC> Hello, has class begun?
<MomCat> just
<MomCat> working with paint you can't blend those colors
<Artsy> Why not?
<MomCat> light as in a monitor or TV screen has different primaries which why what you print out looks different then what you have on the monitor
<MomCat> you can't blend them from other colors
<Artsy> Oh, I see...
<MomCat> sorry that wasn't clear
<BlackCats> hi, evie
<BlackCats> welcome
<BlackCats> class just started
<EvieNC> hello, sorry I exited by mistake.
<BlackCats> hi, lwest
<MomCat> you can blend two primary colors together to make secondary colors
<MomCat> hi
<BlackCats> it's ok, evie
<lwest> hi, sorry i am late
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<BEEZY> welcome back eveie
<MomCat> red and yellow make orange
<BEEZY> hi iwest
<BlackCats> hi, crowfeather
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<BEEZY> hi crow
<MomCat> blue and yellow make green
<CrowFeath> Hi, Folks!!
<MomCat> and blue and red make violet
<Artsy> Hi, CrowFeath!
<MomCat> evi and crowfeather this just started and what you need to know is on the class page
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<EvieNC> thanks, don't know how long I can stay but will follow along.
<CrowFeath> Thx!
<lwest> thank you
<MomCat> mixing a primary color with a secondary color creates a tertiary color
<MomCat> these are all made by mixing a secondary color with a primary color
<MomCat> and the primary always comes first in the name of the tertiary
<MomCat> like yellow-orange
<BEEZY> oh...ok
<MomCat> red-violet and blue-green
<MomCat> any questions?
<BEEZY> not yet
<MomCat> that's the very basic foundation that you need to talk about color combinations
<MomCat> one reason this class was developed was that many people ask
<MomCat> "how do I know which colors go together?
<CrowFeath> onny one question -- i finished my donuts and now they are all gone, whut'ta i do now?
<BEEZY> exactly
<MomCat> wash your fingers and start painting
<Artsy> That's a good question, MC.
<BEEZY> paasing crow a warm fresh cup of coffee(b)
<CrowFeath> LOL! good idea!
<MomCat> so what do y'all think the answer is?
<Artsy> You take a color wheel!
<BEEZY> look at my color wheel
<MomCat> okay
<BEEZY> call momcat while placing an order
<MomCat> lol
<BEEZY> ;)
<MomCat> that's hight praise
<BlackCats> hi, kycrafter
<BlackCats> welcome
<BEEZY> hi KY
<MomCat> the "real" answer in my opinion is that anything that any colore scheme athat acomplishes your goal is right
<KYCrafter> Hello
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<MomCat> if you are going to be the one looking at it and want to enjoy looking at it
<BlackCats> hi, mspurple
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<BlackCats> welcome
<mspurple> hi
<BEEZY> hi purple
<MomCat> the colors that look good to you are right
<BEEZY> ?
<BEEZY> what if i dont know where to start?
<MomCat> I like blues and purples together
<mspurple> hi all
<Artsy> But which blue?
<BEEZY> for example i know i want my christmas card to have deep reds and some gold
<MomCat> but a friend of mine likes reds and yellows so if I do something for her I make it in those colorrs
<Artsy> We have a color that's called Christmas Red.
<CrowFeath> on the tertiarys, do green and purple make blue? Or am I seeing wrong?
<BEEZY> artsy where?
<MomCat> in a minute we will get to some basic combinations to use as a foundations
<MomCat> no two colors make blue
<BEEZY> momcat you are reading my mind
<Artsy> In Finland.
<BEEZY> cool
<MomCat> blue and yellow make green
<CrowFeath> k, i'm seeing wrong, or my printout just didn't print right, thx
<BlackCats> this is why you need a good color wheel
<MomCat> Jean, look at the top wheel
<BlackCats> printers and monitors are often different
<BEEZY> who sells them?
<MomCat> red blue and yellow are the primaries
<Artsy> What is a GOOD color wheel?
<KYCrafter> I've seen them at Wal-Mart with the craft paints section
<MomCat> see the empty circles in there?
<BEEZY> really? i will take a look
<BlackCats> or craft stores
<CrowFeath> the color between green and yellow is lighter green, but what is the color between green and purple? looks blue on both my screen and printout
<mspurple> Even the stamp and scrapbooking stores are carrying color wheels
<MomCat> those empty circles are filled by mixing the color on either side of the empty one
<MomCat> does that make sense to you now?
<CrowFeath> thx momcat
<CrowFeath> yes, it does
<MomCat> yw
<Artsy> Yes, there are many. But many different kinds. Which one is good? Made by which company?
<MomCat> I made this one
<MomCat> and I don't know who makes "good" ones
<MomCat> look at the ones in craft and art stores
<MomCat> and buy the one that makes the most sense to you
<MomCat> Okay the first color scheme is called complimentary
<CrowFeath> I really am confuzzled-- what color is the square between the blue and the green on your chart, momcat?
<MomCat> and is two colors that are directly across from each other on the wheel
<CrowFeath> oops, apologies, i'm laggin
<MomCat> k
<MomCat> somebody mentioned Christmas red
<MomCat> what is the complementary color for red?
<Artsy> Green
<CrowFeath> christmas green
<MomCat> yes
<MomCat> look at Christmas cards and advertisements and such
<MomCat> and usually one of the two colors will be brighter than the other
<MomCat> because they look beter if they aren't both the same amount of brightness
<MomCat> if you mix two complementary colors of paint you get "mud"
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<MomCat> because they dull each other out
<BEEZY> :) did that the other noght
<MomCat> but this can be a useful thing
<BEEZY> night- made mud
<MomCat> if you are coloring santa in his bright red suit
<BlackCats> hi, monkeymom
<BlackCats> welcome
<MomCat> and you need to make shadows on the suit
<MomCat> use a tiny bit of green to make the shadows
<MomCat> it looks beter than if you used black
<BlackCats> mom, got the link for monkeymom?
<CrowFeath> momcat, great idea about those shadows! will this work for colored pencil as well as paint?
<MomCat> I used to know somebody who had very red cheeks
<MomCat> I gave it as soon as she came in the room
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<MonkeyMom> still having trouble with the links
<MonkeyMom> (n)
<BlackCats> oh, sorry, mom
<MomCat> :)
<BEEZY> monkey do you have your popup blocker turned off?
<MomCat> so she put green makeup under her foundation
<MomCat> and it looked great
<Artsy> Thanks for the hint!
<MomCat> yw
<CrowFeath> colored pencil works for shadows same as paint will, momcat?
<MomCat> complements are always a primary and a secondary or two tertiary colors
<MomCat> CROW, IT DEPENDS
<MomCat> ON THE PENCILS AND ON HOW THICK YOU MAKE THE COLOR
<CrowFeath> oh ok
<MomCat> TRY IT ON SCRAP PAPER
<CrowFeath> good idea!
<Jambalaya> and don't throw that scrap away
<MomCat> ROFL
<BEEZY> what kind of color pencils do you reccomend?
<MomCat> JAM never THROWS ANY THING AWAY
<MomCat> i LIKE PRISMA COLOR AND SPECTRA COLOR
<BEEZY> watercolor pencils?
<Artsy> Can you still see your table, Jam?
<Jambalaya> yep
<MomCat> ATHE NEXT COMBO IS SPLIT COMPLEMENTARY
<MomCat> CHOOSE A COLOR SUCH AS RED
<MomCat> AND COMBINE IT WITH THE TWO COLORS WHICH ARE ON EITHER SIDE OF ITS COMPLEMENT
<MomCat> IN THIS EXAMPLE YOUR THREE COLORS WOULD BE RED, YELLOW-GREEN AND BLUE-GREEN
<CrowFeath> red w/ blue and yellow for instance?
<CrowFeath> oops
<MomCat> ANALOGOUS IS THE NEXT COMBO
<MomCat> AFTER I HAD BEEN TEACHING THIS CLASS FOR A WHILE
<MomCat> i REALIZED THAT i ALMOST ALWAYS USE ANALOGOUS COLORS IN MY ART WORK
<mspurple> Artsy - you were looking for a color wheel?
<Artsy> Yes.
<mspurple> This is the brand I found at both my LSS and the art supply store
<MomCat> THESE ARE COLORS THAT ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER ON THE WHEEL
<Jambalaya> ms, please set your color back to black
<mspurple> oh sorry
<mspurple> artsy it won't let me paste a link
<MomCat> SUCH AS GREEN, BLUE-GREEN AND BLUE
<Artsy> Mspurple, what is the brand name?
<mspurple> but go to dickblick.com and search for color wheel
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<Jambalaya> you can print out momcats color wheel for free
<Jambalaya> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<mspurple> "artists color wheel"
<Artsy> I've heard of spinning wheels. Are they good?
<MomCat> DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU NEED
<Artsy> To match colors.
<MomCat> LOOK AROUND UNTIL YOU FIND ONE THAT WORKS FOR YOU
<MomCat> BUT DON'T LET THE COLOR WHEEL TAKE OVER
<Artsy> Well, we don't have them at shops. I have to order from the USA...
<MomCat> IT'S your ART
<MomCat> USE THE COLORS YOU LIKE
<MomCat> BUT YOU CAN USE THE COLOR WHEEL AS A GUIDE
<Artsy> Of course. One likes the daughter, another the mother...
<MomCat> THE NEXT COLOR SCHEME IS CALLED MONOCHROMATIC
<MomCat> IT IS DIFFERENT SHADES OF ONE COLOR
<BEEZY> i like this one cause its easier:):)
<MonkeyMom> still cant get to the samples even when typing in direct
<MonkeyMom> :(
<BEEZY> Monkey do you have a pop up blocker on?
<MomCat> EMAIL ME momcat@dm.net and I will send it to you as an attachment after class
<MonkeyMom> I'll disable it but it will boot me again. It didn't help last night tho
<Jambalaya> Monkey, try holding down your control key while you click on the link
<Jambalaya> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<Jambalaya> phooey
<MomCat> another thing to keep in mind is what you WANT TO DO WITH THE COLORS
<BEEZY> i have AOL and you have the choic eof allowing this site. it worked for me when i had the same difficulty you are having
<BEEZY> rats... missed her
<MomCat> SOME COLORS ARE "HOT" LIKE RED, YELLOW AND ORANGE
<MomCat> AND SOME ARE "COOL" LIKE BLUE, GREEN AND VIOLET
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<BEEZY> Monkey read up the page a few to my entry to you
<Artsy> Interesting... Violet is based on red...
<MomCat> SO IF YOU WERE DOING A SCENE OF NOON IN THE DESERT
<MonkeyMom> it's been wiped clean
<MomCat> WHICH COLOR WOULD YOU USE?
<MomCat> COLORS?
<Artsy> red
<mspurple> yellow
<Jambalaya> monkey see private message
<MomCat> YES
<mspurple> orange
<MomCat> AND THEY WOULD BE GOOD FOR A FIRE TOO
<Artsy> It's boiling there...
<MomCat> FOR A COOL NIGHT-TIME OR AN UNDER WATER PICTURE
<Artsy> blue
<MomCat> YOU WOULD USE, BLUE VIOLET AND GREEN
<MomCat> YES!
<BEEZY> hot red orange yellow
<MonkeyMom> I think Beezy's buzzed (d)
<MomCat> BUT COOL AND HOT REFER TO MORE THAN JUST THE COLORS OF THE SUN OR WATER
<Artsy> Feelings?
<MomCat> THEY ALSO REFER TO THE MOOD OF THE PICTURE
<MomCat> YES!
<MomCat> TO HOW IT MAKES YOU FEEL
<MomCat> THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE IN INTERIOR DECTORATING
<BEEZY> that answer was for the first question:)
<MomCat> :)
<Artsy> What about black? I think a black background looks good, though it's a sad color.
<Jambalaya> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<MomCat> NEXT SATURDAY AT THIS SAME TIME, WE'LL LEARN HOW TO PAINT A SUNSET USING ONLY RED, BLUE, YELLOW AND WATER
<MomCat> http://crafts.dm.net/mall/classes/990828.html
<BEEZY> how fun
<Artsy> What a pity, I'll be on vacation and not at home...
<MomCat> aRTSY, EMAIL ME momcat@dm.net
<MomCat> and I'll send you the link to the sunset page
<Artsy> Oh, lovely! Thanks!
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