<BlackCats> hi all

<BlackCats> y'all are probably expecting to see tarotmama here

<BlackCats> she's had something come up

<cak> uh oh

<BlackCats> so i'm gonna wing it

<cak> hopefully a good thing?

<BlackCats> hang tight for jest a second and let me grab my thoughts

<BlackCats> ok

<BlackCats> anyone need a break before we start?

<cak> lol--I think they didn't ask permission and are taking one right now

<BlackCats> lol

<BlackCats> ok, i'm gonna have to take a wild guess here about what the class was supposed to be about

<cak> turn it into a discussion!

<cak> wb CJ

<cak> (and HI Sprout)

<BlackCats> I'LL MAKE A GUESS AND SUGGEST WE START BY TALKING ABOUT MAKING A TECHNIQUES JOURNAL

<BlackCats> GET ONE OF THOSE BLANK BOOKS

<BlackCats> OR ANY KIND OF NOTEBOOK

<BlackCats> OR...

<BlackCats> IF YOU'RE REALLY ADVENTUROUS

<BlackCats> MAKE YOUR OWN!

<BlackCats> THERE ARE SO MANY TECHNIQUES OUT THERE

<BlackCats> AND YOU CAN WASTE A LOT OF TIME AND PAPER TRYING TO LEARN SOMETHING

<BlackCats> BUT...

<BlackCats> IF YOU DO IT IN A BLANK JOURNAL

<BlackCats> AND KEEP NOTES ON WHAT YOU USED, HOW YOU DID IT, ETC

<BlackCats> THAT WILL HELP YOU KEEP FROM MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES...

<BlackCats> OR CREATIVE DISCOVERIES <g>

<cak> sounds like a lab book--I always knew we were a bunch of mad scientists

<BlackCats> YEP

<BlackCats> THIS SORTA GOES ALONG WITH THE IDEA OF PLAY

<BlackCats> A JOURNAL WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO EXPERIMENT WITH NEW GOODIES

<BlackCats> I KNOW WHEN I GO TO A LIVE CONVENTION

<BlackCats> AND WATCH THE DEMOS

<BlackCats> I'LL BUY THE PRODUCTS AND GET HOME

<BlackCats> THEN SAY

<BlackCats> HMMM, NOW WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN?

<cak> lol

<BlackCats> THESE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS I HAVE STARTED DOING ALTERED BOOKS

<BlackCats> THAT'S A WHOLE 'NUTHER ANIMAL FROM CARDS

<cak> so do you keep notes on your ABs?

<BlackCats> AND IT IS SUGGESTED THAT FOLKS START OUT DOING A TECHNIQUES BOOK

<BlackCats> WELL, IF YOU DO A TECHNIQUES BOOK

<BlackCats> THAT'S A BOOK THAT WOULD BE JUST FOR YOUR USE

<BlackCats> THINGS YOU THINK WILL LOOK ONE WAY OFTEN GO ANOTHER WAY

<cak> your own personal playground?

<BlackCats> SO HAVING SOMEPLACE WHERE YOU

<BlackCats> YES!

<BlackCats> THAT'S EXCACTLY RIGHT

<BlackCats> YOU HAVE A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN TRY DIFFERENT INKS AND PAINTS AND GLAZES

<BlackCats> TO SEE HOW THEY INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER

<BlackCats> A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT OF THIS

<BlackCats> A LITTLE BIT OF THAT

<BlackCats> BUT KEEP NOTES ON WHAT YOU HAVE GOING ON WITH A PAGE

<BlackCats> SO THAT IF YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING YOU REALLY LIKE

<BlackCats> YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN ON PURPOSE

<BlackCats> ANY IDEAS?

<BlackCats> COMMENTS/

<CJ> Did you go over what type of book?

<BlackCats> QUESTIONS?

<cak> I got into the habit of keeping a "comp" book--a place to brainstorm ideas, layouts, etc.

<BlackCats> A BLANK JOURNAL OR NOTEBOOK

<BlackCats> OR IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE FUN

<BlackCats> MAKE YOUR OWN JOURNAL

<BlackCats> OR AN OLD BOOK WILL DO

<cak> I also like a sprial book--you can take some pages out if you add bulky items

<BlackCats> YES, GOOD IDEA CAK

<cak> (loose leaf is a disaster for me---talk about chaos)

<Sprout> Got to go. Family just walke din for dinner. See you later.

<BlackCats> YES, THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT NOW

<cak> see you in a bit Sprout

<CJ> Could we use a binder? I have a lot of those from a previous job

<BlackCats> AND NEED TO START A NEW JOURNAL

<BlackCats> YES, YOU COULD CJ

<Regina> I like looseleaf binders w/those C-Line open end plastic page holders

<BlackCats> JUST WORK OUT WHAT IS MOST COMFORTABLE FOR YOU

<cak> binder would be great (if you can keep from removing things like I do)

<CJ> And I have a million page protectors.

<Regina> I like to use alphabet index dividers, too

<BlackCats> SO YOU'RE ALL SET CJ

<cak> how do you sort them Regina?

<BlackCats> YES, HAVING SOME WAY OF DIVIDING YOUR JOURNAL IS A GOOD IDEA

<BlackCats> ESPECIALLY IF YOU DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF PAPER CRAFTS

<Regina> by whatever name I give to the technique

<cak> lol

<BlackCats> YOU COULD HAVE IT DIVIDED BY TYPES OF PAPER CRAFTS

<BlackCats> I.E., CARDS, MINI BOOKS, ALTERED BOOKS, ETC

<BlackCats> AND/OR

<Regina> like Pearl Ex--Pearl Ex with Elmer Borden's Glue

<BlackCats> YOU COULD HAVE SECTIONS FOR INKS, PAINTS, ETC

<BlackCats> YES

<BlackCats> GOOD IDEA, REGINA

<BlackCats> AND YOU'D WANT TO PLAY WITH HOW PEARL EX LOOKS OVER DIFFERENT COLORS OF INKS AND PAINTS

<cak> I found that I got too caught up with the organization when I tried to do that--I now just toss 'em in a book

<cak> (well, at least it gets done)

<Regina> yes, Pearl Ex with clear emboss ink

<BlackCats> WELL, WHATEVER WORKS BEST FOR YOU

<BlackCats> THAT'S WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT

<Regina> Pearl Ex with smeared Ink-its

<BlackCats> YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED

<cak> exactly

<deb> you can't even imagine how badly I need to make one of these

<BlackCats> AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DISCOVERED EITHER BY ACCIDENT OR ON PURPOSE

<BlackCats> LOL, DEB

<deb> do you know how many times I've purchased stuff twice

<BlackCats> I NEED TO REALLY GET STARTED ON MY TECHNIQUE ALTERED BOOK

<cak> yeah deb--you've got some really cool things to put in there already

<cak> I also keep a book of images that I love. They can be really inspiring and can really help you discover your personal style

<BlackCats> OH, YES!

<cak> (well, I *did* keep one)

<Regina> You can get whole plastic pages divided into 5x7 and 4x6 for smaller sampels (photo album pages)

<deb> lol

<BlackCats> SEEING SOMEONE ELSE'S THINGS AND MAKING NOTES OF THE GENERAL IDEAS IS A GOOD THING FOR A SAMPLE JOURNL

<BlackCats> OR...

<BlackCats> IF YOU TAKE A CLASS HERE

<BlackCats> AND THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE TAKING A PIECE OF PAPER AND FOLDING IT

<BlackCats> TO MAKE A TAG HOLDER OR SUCH

<BlackCats> PUT THAT SAMPLE IN YOUR JOURNAL

<cak> and put the url with it!

<deb> how do you divide yours?

<BlackCats> PUT AN ENVELOPE ON THE PAGE TO PUT IT IN

<BlackCats> YES, CAK!

<Regina> I put handmade cards from others in one of those cheap photo books w/sleeves

<BlackCats> AND WRITE DOWN ANY DIRECTIONS YOU MAY NEED

<cak> what kinds of problems you had so you don't repeat 'em??

<BlackCats> OR WHO DID THE CLASS SO YOU CAN ASK FOR HELP FROM THEM IF YOU NEED IT

<BlackCats> COLOR COMBOS THAT REALLY DIDN'T WORK

<BlackCats> AND SOMETHING I *REALLY* NEED TO DO IS..

<BlackCats> MAKE SOME SAMPLES OF MY PUNCHES

<BlackCats> DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE NOTICED

<BlackCats> BUT SOME PUNCHES ARE TRICKY

<cak> you're punch-drunk?

<BlackCats> IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH A RECTANGLE

<BlackCats> LOL, CAK

<Regina> carry a small sample card of your punches in your purse

<cak> oops, sorry

<deb> lol

<cak> (thought you were going the obsessed route)

<BlackCats> LOL

<BlackCats> SOME PUNCHES YOU NEED TO TURN YOUR PAPER OVER IF YOU'RE DOING ALL FOUR CORNERS

<BlackCats> OF A LAYER

<BlackCats> WELL, DUH, DUMMY ME

<Regina> that's right, blackcats

<BlackCats> I KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES

<BlackCats> SO...

<BlackCats> WHEN I GET TIME

<Regina> no, not the dummy part being right.

* BlackCats SHE REMARKS WITH A VERY BIG GRIN

<BlackCats> I'M GONNA GET OUT MY CORNER PUNCHES

<BlackCats> NUMBER EACH CORNER

<BlackCats> PUNCH EACH CORNER ONE WAY

<BlackCats> THEN TRY IT ANOTHER WAY

<BlackCats> NUMBERING THE CORNERS THE SAME EACH TIME

<deb> why do you have to turn it over?

<BlackCats> SO THAT WHEN I HAVE A LAYER ALL SET AND PAINTED AND NICE TO PUT ON THE CARD

<cak> sound like it'd be very useful--and if you did 'em on index cards, you'd have a catalog of your punches

<BlackCats> I DON'T KNOW WHY, DEB

<BlackCats> JUST THAT IT IS SO

<BlackCats> OR AT LEAST FOR ME

<deb> yhmmm

<BlackCats> YES, EITHER INDEX CARDS OR SCRAPS

<BlackCats> BUT INDEX CARDS ARE A GOOD IDEA

<jjoy> what ya working on?

<BlackCats> SAVE THE SCRAPS FOR LAYERING OR PUNCHES

<Regina> the corner/side designs on some punches/corner stamps aren't identical

<BlackCats> HI, JOY

<BlackCats> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING A SAMPLE JOURNAL

<jjoy> hi yall

<BlackCats> A TECHNIQUES JOURNAL

<deb> we are talking about making a journal of samples

<BlackCats> SOMEPLACE YOU DO YOUR PLAYING TO TRY OUT NEW TECHNIQUES

<BlackCats> HI, CAROLYN

<BlackCats> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING YOURSELVES SAMPLE JOURNALS

<jjoy> did that with Frankie Fioretti on black paper

<BlackCats> SOMEPLACE TO DO YOUR PLAYING TO TRY OUT NEW TECHNIQUES

<Regina> those corner cutting scissors can really give you fits getting all 4 corners the same

<Carolyn> hi everone...sorry i'm late,

<BlackCats> YES, REGINA

<BlackCats> AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU COULD DO WITH INDEX CARDS

<BlackCats> NUMBERING THE CORNERS

<BlackCats> AND TRYING DIFFERENT WAYS TIL YOU GET IT WRITE

<BlackCats> BUT JUST MAKE SURE TO KEEP NOTES OF YOUR STEPS

<BlackCats> SO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A "AH, HA" MOMENT

<jjoy> they have index cards now that are bound

<BlackCats> YOU KNOW HOW YOU GOT THERE

<BlackCats> THAT WOULD BE A GOOD MINI-JOURNAL

<BlackCats> HI, CHERUB

<cherub78> hi all

<BlackCats> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING SAMPLE JOURNALS

<BlackCats> A PLACE TO WORK ON TECHNIQUES

<Jambalaya> ya know, i actually do make notes as i'm stamping i just never thought to keep em all together in a journal

<BlackCats> TO TRY OUT DIFFERENT INKS AND PAINTS TOGETHER

<BlackCats> SOME THINGS THAT LOOK GOOD IN THEORY

<BlackCats> CAN LOOK PRETTY AWEFUL ON PAPER

<deb> oh I have lots of those

<cherub78> me too

<BlackCats> AND IT'S A SHAME TO MESS UP A GOOD CARD OR ALTERED BOOK PAGE

<BlackCats> IF YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON IT ALREADY

<jjoy> you could work on different papers and have them bound at like Office Max

<Regina> use those flubs for halloween

<BlackCats> JUST GET A NOTEBOOK, JOY

<BlackCats> CHEAPER

<BlackCats> OR MAKE YOUR OWN BOOK

<cak> but that would be good for when you're working on a specfic paper (which can have an effect on things too)

<BlackCats> YES

<BlackCats> IF YOU USE THE SAME PAPERS A LOT

<BlackCats> TRIM OFF A STRIP MAYBE 2" WIDE

<BlackCats> AND DO DIFFERENT INKS AND PAINTS, ETC, ON IT

<Jambalaya> good idea, a little sample is all you need as a reminder

<BlackCats> PUT IT IN YOUR JOURNAL

<BlackCats> MAKING NOTES, OF COURSE

<BlackCats> YEAH, IF YOU HAVE A SQUARE PUNCH OR CIRCLE

<BlackCats> THAT WOULD DO TOO

<BlackCats> OR JUST TEAR A PIECE

<BlackCats> YOUR BOOK IS FOR *YOU*

<BlackCats> SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE

<BlackCats> IT'S YOUR PLAY TOY

<BlackCats> AND...

<BlackCats> WHEN YOU GET RIGHT DOWN TO IT

<Jambalaya> oh! and you could "log" who you sent it to, if you made a card with it

<BlackCats> YES

<BlackCats> AREN'T WE ALL STILL PLAYING WITH COLORBOOKS

<BlackCats> ?

<BlackCats> <g>

<cak> yes Jamba, very helpful to those who have mailing skills

<BlackCats> HI, MILES

<Jambalaya> lol

<Regina> yep

<miles> Hello

<jjoy> if your using an index card you can punch 2 holes at the top and use cicle key holders to keep it together. write the infor or type it from the computer and run it through a xyron.

<Judy> cak - the Post Office works! Really!

<BlackCats> JUST GROWN-UP PLAY

<Jambalaya> well, i was speaking generically cak<g> i didn't mean me

<BlackCats> GOOD IDEA, JOY

<cak> (USPS does, I don't)

<Judy> lol

<Carolyn> My hubby calls it "kindergarten time" He says we didn't get enough sand box time.

<BlackCats> ANOTHER THING TO DO

<BlackCats> LOL, CAROLYN

<cak> (that was a crack at myself, not you Jamba! I have proof your mailing skills are just fine)

<BlackCats> MY DH COMES IN AND SAYS, PLAYING WITH YOUR COLORBOOKS AGAIN, I SEE

<BlackCats> LOL

<Judy> lol

<BlackCats> ANOTHER THING YOU CAN DO

<deb> yeah and OUTSIDE the lines too

<cak> I think that's a compliment Carolyn. that you are preceived as adventurous as a kid

<BlackCats> IF YOU FIND A LAYERING COMBE YOU REALLY LIKE

<BlackCats> PUT THAT IN YOUR BOOK

<jjoy> the only way to go

<Jambalaya> mine says you need me to cut stuff for ya??? huh?? please? can I cut stuff??

<deb> lol

<BlackCats> LOL

<cak> playmate!

<Judy> lol, Jam - you're lucky!

<BlackCats> SO MAYBE HANK NEEDS TO DO THE CUTTING EDGE CLASS <g>

<deb> I think that's unusualy vicki

<Jambalaya> train those hubbies ladies!

<deb> most don't do that

<BlackCats> YES!

<Carolyn> mine is untrainable

<deb> untrainable

<cak> (DR is coming to Book Works with me)

<BlackCats> GET THOSE HUSBANDS FRESH AND TRAIN THEM WELL

<deb> hmm trade him in

<BlackCats> LOL

<BlackCats> YOUNGER, BETTER, RICHER MODEL, HUH, DEB? <g>

<deb> yeah!!!

<deb> one with scissors

<BlackCats> LOL

<Jambalaya> lol

<deb> and $$

<BlackCats> ANY QUESTIONS?

<deb> yeah

<deb> you know any?

<BlackCats> LOL

<Judy> lol

<BlackCats> NOPE, WISH I DID

<Carolyn> no. . . .I don't want to start over. I'll put up with my non-craft hubby as he is my best critic

<BlackCats> OH, MY, I CAN'T SAY THAT

<jjoy> i can

* BlackCats SMACKS SELF

<deb> lol

<BlackCats> MINE IS TOO, CAROLYN

<Carolyn> great!

<BlackCats> WHEN I'M TRYING TO MATCH PAPERS, PAINTS ETC IN A PROJECT

<deb> I CAN say that cause mine isn't HERE

<jjoy> sometimes I can even get him to figure out stuff I can't

<BlackCats> MY DH IS A GREAT HELP

<Jambalaya> mine's not, he thinks everything looks great

<miles> mine likes brown

<BlackCats> LOL

<BlackCats> OH, NO, MILES

<cherub78> I traded in for younger...prob is, he won't get off of the gamecube so the kids can play it

<miles> yep

<BlackCats> GOTTA BRING HIM AROUND TO COLOR

<BlackCats> LOL, CHERUB

<Carolyn> brown? who uses brown, except with the new distress inks

<miles> I do the decorating

<deb> lol

<Jambalaya> uh, the entire somerset world is brown<g>

<BlackCats> YEP

<deb> yeah -

<BlackCats> WHY I DON'T BUY IT ANYMORE

<Regina> SS is brown and swamp water green

<BlackCats> A LOT OF ALTERED BOOK ARTISTS DO MOSTLY BROWN

<BlackCats> NOT ME

<BlackCats> I GOTTA HAVE COLOR

<miles> me too

<deb> COLOR MY WORLD

<jjoy> bles and greens

<BlackCats> I LIKE COLOR AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO USE IT

<Judy> me three

<deb> oops

<Carolyn> me too...brown is one of my least favorites along with YELLER

<BlackCats> BUT I DO TEND TO ALWAYS USE MY FAVORITE COLOR

<BlackCats> PURPLE

<miles> oh yes yeller is sick

<Carolyn> LOVE PURPLE

<BlackCats> THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT YOU COULD PUT IN YOUR SAMPLE BOOK

<cherub78> oooh, purple is my fav too

<miles> yes on the purple

<Jambalaya> yellow has it's place

<BlackCats> IF YOU ALWAYS GO FOR THE SAME COLORS OR COLOR COMBOS

<deb> yellow has it's place - in the sky

<BlackCats> START PULLING THINGS OUT OF YOUR STASH

<Carolyn> Jambalaya, yes on chickens

<miles> yellow kitchen

<BlackCats> AND MIX AND MATCH

<BlackCats> PLAY

<jjoy> those new chick stamps

<BlackCats> TRY THINGS THAT SCREAM NO

<deb> I do go for the same colors

<cak> how about ideas for using your least favorite colors??

<BlackCats> JUST TO SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH

<miles> I heard those chick stamps are sure cute

<BlackCats> YES, GOOD IDEA, CAK

<BlackCats> I HAPPEN TO DISLIKE SOME SHADES OF GREEN INTENSELY

<jjoy> the clear chick stamps are just too much fun

<Jambalaya> oh me too

<Carolyn> About the only time I use yellow and orange is in the fall; otherwise, they sit and dry out

<BlackCats> BUT IF YOU GET GRAB BAGS OF PAPER

<BlackCats> OR SAMPLERS

<BlackCats> YOU'RE BOUND TO GET PAPERS YOU DON'T LIKE

<miles> I like them if down rusty

<Jambalaya> paint them!

<deb> I HAD to use colors I didn't like

<miles> Like the new fall colors

<deb> I was doing some stuff for my son - fior hunting

<BlackCats> SOMETIME FINDING THE RIGHT THING TO GO WITH THEM WILL CHANGE IT COMPLETELY

<deb> it was quite an experience

<miles> Think of orange with a almost black purple

<BlackCats> YES

<jjoy> well ya need to push the envelope sometimes

<deb> it felt odd

<BlackCats> YES, YOU DO

<deb> felt out of place

<BlackCats> AND A JOURNAL IS JUST THE PLACE TO DO IT, JOY

<deb> BUT

<cak> but didn't you feel adventuresome too?

<deb> it turned out beautifully

<BlackCats> GOOD

<BlackCats> SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO PUT IN YOUR JOURNAL

<BlackCats> AND YOUR JOURNAL DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST SAMPLES EITHER

<deb> I"m gonna put my son inmy journal

<jjoy> took a class with Mary Jo McGraw in FL this summer and it was such a blast-talk about differnt

<BlackCats> PUT IDEAS IN IT

<BlackCats> OR PUT DOWN HOW YOU MADE THAT ITEM FOR YOUR SON, DEB

<deb> i like the ideas idea

<Jambalaya> now thats a good idea bc

<BlackCats> TY

<deb> I wish I put down Ideas I wanted to do

<miles> yes me too

<Carolyn> I mainly keep a journal for backgrounds. I experiment a lot and like to keep track of how I create backgrounds, like colors and mfgs.

<deb> they probably would come to fruition sooner

<BlackCats> YEP, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA

<Jambalaya> take a small journal with you to conventions, stamp store, even when you come to classes in here, and write down ideas

<BlackCats> BUT CAN'T GET TO IT RIGHT AWAY

<BlackCats> THEN WHEN YOU GET AROUND TO IT, YOU'VE LOST THE KEY ELEMENT

<jjoy> i drive an hour to work and use a small tape recorder in the car then jot them into journals- it's great after a class before you forget it all

<BlackCats> BUT IF YOU HAD A JOURNAL THAT YOU GOT USED TO KEEPING IDEAS IN

<BlackCats> YOU COULD JOT IT DOWN

<BlackCats> GOOD IDEA Jambalaya

<BlackCats> ANOTHER GOOD IDEA, JOY

<miles> I keep a sample book also

<BlackCats> WE GET SO RUSHED SOMETIMES

<BlackCats> WE NEED SOMEPLACE SPECIAL WHERE WE CAN KEEP OUR CREATIVE IDEAS AND INSPIRATIONS

<jjoy> when you take the journal to classes and stuff you can save a page here and there and put your sample you made in it

<BlackCats> YES

<cak> so much of this is finding out that there's no one perfect way to do these things--find out and do what works! (even if terribly illogical)

<Carolyn> Lots of good ideas....I'm off for a break before the next class. Thanks blackcats.

<BlackCats> YES, CAK

<BlackCats> THAT IS SO TURE

<BlackCats> OK, LETS TAKE A BIO BREAK BEFORE THE NEXT CLASS

<BlackCats> WHICH IS WHERE, Jambalaya

<Judy> thanks, Monica - interesting discussion

<Jambalaya> NEXT EVENT IS IN #craftclass

<BlackCats> TY, JUDY

<deb> thanks bc

<BlackCats> THANKS EVERYBODY FOR COMING

<deb> good discussion

<miles> Good class Bc

<deb> great ideas

<cherub78> thanks!

<deb> i'm gonna make one of these

<jjoy> thanks

<BlackCats> THANKS

<miles> me too

<BlackCats> GLAD TO HEAR IT DEB

<miles> need the color ideas

<deb> you inspired me

<BlackCats> GREAT!

<Stampverb> er.... this was not tarot's class? Just got here, sorry

<BlackCats> OK, CAPS OFF

<cak> TM had something come up, so BC pinch hit for her

<cak> (after checking the class title) Did a fabo job!

<Jambalaya> NEXT EVENT IS IN #craftclass

<BlackCats> OK, LET'S ALL MOVE OVER TO #craftclass

<deb> yeah it was good

<BlackCats> THANKS FOR COMING EVERYONE

<cak> thanks for the encouragement!

<BlackCats> yw, cak

<BlackCats> now just gotta kick my butt to do it <G>

<cak> lol

<BlackCats> right now i've got little notebooks and scraps of paper in a box

<BlackCats> a journal would be a much better idea

<BlackCats> and after ruing the same card 3 times today at the punch stage

<BlackCats> that is gonna be the first thing that goes in my new sample journal

<cak> As long as you don't find you don't use the book as much (don't ask me how I know)

<BlackCats> lol

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