<Scout> I'm here cause I made a mistake once!

<Jambalaya> there's actually no such thing as a mistake in stamping<g>

<EvieNC> "A" mistake?

<Artsy> Scout, LOL!

<Janet> did you, Scout?? or were you mistaken?

<Janet> and it wasn't a mistake at all.

<Scout> you got it, Janet

<Janet> LOL

<Artsy> Can you make mistakes? Everything is ART...

<Janet> there are mistakes, and there are happy accidents :)

<Scout> well, perhaps it could be said that I did make a mistake. I got involved in rubberstamping and my place has been a pigpen of stamping supplies ever since.

<valeriej> lol

<Janet> LOL that's no mistake, that's a happy accident :)

<Janet> mine used to be a pigpen of other hobbies. Now I'm more focused.

<Scout> well, I presume we are all in the same boat

<Judy> lol, Scout!

<Janet> Hi, Louise!

<Louise> Hello All!!

<Janet> Not Jambalaya, her craftroom is so neat and clean!

<Scout> Send some of that focus over here, Jan

<Scout> And the maid to go along with it

<Janet> can I send some of my mess with it??

<Janet> but happy day this morning, I found my document ink!!

<Janet> it was hiding under my chair

<Judy> hope the lid was on, Janet!

<Janet> (along with half a piece of bread, a couple pieces of cardstock and one really puppy chewed candle)

<Janet> it was!!! told ya, it was a GOOOOOD morning!

<Judy> lol!

<Janet> under my chair is really really scary

<Janet> that's where trash goes to die

<Janet> hey, better than bowls of acrylic paint!

<Judy> think we've had more rain in the past week than we had all last year!

<Scout> Dick has to get out and pump water out of the pool, as it is now up to the top and I don't think plants will enjoy a chlorine bath

<Judy> paint in your swimming pool, Janet?

<Janet> yeah, it was VERY expensive painted paper<g>

<Janet> Redstick did a class on how she hand dyes her tissue and I had to try it

<Janet> nevah again, I'm buying it! much cheaper!!!

<Judy> do you have a permenantly colorful pool?

<Janet> $110 for the emergency pool guys

<Jambalaya> ya and red never told anyone again how to make that paper!

<Janet> i'd just replastered

<Judy> ouch!

<Scout> oh, no, janet

<Janet> it's just as well, trust me, it's cheaper to just buy it from her. :)

<Jambalaya> yep

<Janet> and nobody does it better!

<Janet> I have to leave about halfway through here, but before I go I can tell how I've covered a multitude of sins

<MomCat> yes

<Bev> Is this the mistakes class?, or am I in the wrong place?

* Jambalaya tosses the caps to Janet

* MomCat tosses caps to janet

<MomCat> lol

<Janet> CAUGHT 'EM!

<Janet> CAPS FLYING EVERYWHERE!!

<Janet> MY DESK IS A WICKED THING.

<Janet> NOT ONLY DOES IT EAT MY SUPPLIES, BUT IT ALSO PUTS SMUDGES AND SPILLS ON MY WORK

<Judy> lol

<Janet> FOR REAL!!!

<Janet> THOSE CAN'T ALL BE MY FINGERPRINTS!

<Janet> BUT A NICE FINGER PRINT BORDER REALLY CAN LOOK VERY COOL!

<MomCat> Chico's paw prints?

<Janet> AND YOU CAN FANCY IT UP BY SPONGING ON TOP OF IT, TOO

<Scout> an elbow into an open ink pad can be nice, also

<Jambalaya> ya ya that's it blame the poor cat

<Janet> CHICO MY CAT LICKS EVERY THING I MAKE

<Janet> I'VE PATTERNED FAKE LICK PRINTS ALONG EDGES TOO

<Janet> AND BEFORE THERE WERE DISTRESS INKS, I'VE SPLATTERED WORK WITH COFFEE ON PURPOSE BEFORE

<Janet> TO MATCH THESPLATTERS THAT GOT THERE BY ACCIDENT

<Jambalaya> ya sure janet

<Scout> Just wish there was a way to get rid of those ridge marks when you accidently rock the stamp

<Janet> O

<Janet> I'VE CUT OUT IMAGES THAT HAD RIDGES BEFORE, THEN GLUED THEM BACK ON

<Scout> some pads are extremely cushy, so the stamp stick in farther and that leaves them also

<Janet> I THINK IT'S A LAW OF NATURE THAT THE MORE ELEMENTS YOU HAVE IN A PIECE, THE GREATER THE LIKELIHOOD OF GOOFS

<Janet> I DO TRY TO REMEMBER TO CHECK AND CLEAN EDGES WITH A Q-TIP

<Janet> BUT I DON'T ALWAYS REMEMBER

<Janet> (CLEAN EDGES BEFORE I STAMP IT)

<Janet> I HAVE TROUBLE WITH NOT GETTING A GOOD COMPLETE IMAGE

<Janet> OR SLIDING THE STAMP

<Janet> THE NOT COMPLETE IMAGE I CAN FIX, I JUST DRAW IN THE PARTS I MISSED.

<Janet> BUT HOW DO YOU FIX A SLID STAMP???

* Janet HAS CAPS UP FOR GRABS

<Jambalaya> well, first, you don't let janets near the ink<g>

<Scout> Slide it somemore so it looks like its in motion?

<Janet> (other than pretending you meant to do that and do a couple of others and say the images are speeding across your page)

<Janet> LOL

<Janet> yeah, Scout!

<Judy> start over?

<Janet> lol that's usually how i fix it

<BlackCats> lol, judy

<Janet> but when i'm almost finshed, i hate to start over

<Judy> save mistakes for serendipity cards?

<BlackCats> that's where heating with wood comes in handy...ready supply of kindling <G>

<Jambalaya> absolutely save them

<Janet> oh for sure!

<BlackCats> yes, even if the whole image isn't good, part of it should be usable

<Janet> or if they're really ugly, cut 'em into strips for paper weaving<g>

<Jambalaya> bc don't you dare burn good carstock

<BlackCats> or use it for punches

<BlackCats> lol, jam

<BlackCats> only if i mess up both sides

<EvieNC> or turn it over and stamp on the backside?

<Judy> gmta

<BlackCats> yes, evie, that's what i was just about to say

<Janet> a good piece of ruined cardstock makes a great cat whorf picker upper

<Jambalaya> and remember, there's always the back of it to try again, or use some other way

<Janet> (except when the cat whorfs on it already<g>)

* Jambalaya Bops Janet

<Janet> lol

<EvieNC> cat whorf...now there's a term I can understand.

<BlackCats> glitter glue can hide a multitude of mistakes

* Jambalaya hands janet a case of paper towels

<Janet> (I clean cat whorf more often than i stamp<g>)

<Janet> glitter glue!! what a great idea!

<BlackCats> either as a spot or start on the area of the mistake and then put lightly over the rest of the card

<Janet> a strategically placed piece of confetti works sometimes, too

<BlackCats> yes, or charms, faux gem, bitti beads

<BlackCats> or...

<Janet> (and there's always the trim it down even more and layer it)

<EvieNC> I stamped a lady and got one of those background blurbs on her skirt...just cut off the image and made it shorter.

<Jambalaya> ribbons

<Janet> ribbons!!

<BlackCats> stickers

<Judy> small stamps

<Jambalaya> evie, you really shouldn't stamp on people, they might get mean

<BlackCats> or...on that skirt

<Janet> LOL

<BlackCats> stamp a small bug, flower, whatever might work

<EvieNC> Jamba, you are so right!

<Scout> a pattern of that little swirly stamp like @ that is so popular

<Janet> peg stamps rule :)

<BlackCats> yes

<BlackCats> or...

<Scout> never can remember what that swirly thing is called

<Jambalaya> a swirly thing

<Janet> lol

<Scout> I have several sizes

<BlackCats> if you stamp a big stamp and part of it doesn't come out quite good enough

<BlackCats> cut it in thirds and layer on coordinating cs

<Janet> draw the rest in?

<BlackCats> then layer that on card

<Janet> oh that's a good idea!

<BlackCats> ty

<MomCat> I stamp and cutout my images

<Scout> cut a square, go around the edges like a frame with same color paint and mount

<Janet> i'm not that good with scissors

<Jambalaya> we don't let janets have sharp objects

<Janet> (this is true<g>)

<MomCat> so I dodge a lot of those problems

<Scout> Sometimes if I'm really careful, I wipe off the parts that did stamp, huff on the ink left on part that didn't and restamp

<BlackCats> yes, i do that too, momcat

<Scout> sometimes it lines up and I've saved it. What have you got to lose?

<BlackCats> good idea, scout

<Janet> when worse comes to worse, a nice opaque background works to save the cardstock :)

<BlackCats> yep

<BlackCats> or cut it into strips and weave

<Scout> Just make sure you wipe off the parts that did stamp or you'll have double image

<BlackCats> then put a medallion or something on top

<BlackCats> after you've trimmed the weave and mounted it on a card

<Janet> making a nice seal or embellishment, mistake-sized, that works sometimes

<Scout> A medallion or charm, etc. might be big enough to fill in that blank space and look like it was meant to be

<Jambalaya> i made a mistake once in a class i was taking

<Judy> or try Jam's spotlight technique

<BlackCats> if you're stamping a central image and it doesn't come out right

<Scout> like me, only once, Jam

<BlackCats> stamp the image repeatedly around the 1st

<Jambalaya> it was a really fancy card, with a domino in an oriental theme

<BlackCats> so that it is a background

<BlackCats> then redo central image as a layer on top

<Jambalaya> and the domino had gold leaf pen around sides

<Jambalaya> so naturally, my hand brushed across the blob of gold ink where you pump it to get it flowing, and smeared on the card

<Jambalaya> i was mortified!

<BlackCats> lol

<BlackCats> i *hate* those kinds of pens

<Jambalaya> so i quick pumped out more gold ink, and grabbed a piece of crumpled paper

<BlackCats> what did you do?

<Jambalaya> then blotted the ink all over the card

<BlackCats> ooooh,

<BlackCats> good idea

<Judy> good save, Jam

<Jambalaya> and everyone said hey what a wonderful oriental marbled gold background!

<Scout> You could also just repeat the smear with the side of your hand randomly on the background, so it looked like you meant to do it

<BlackCats> lol

<Louise> Sorry to leave, kids are home

<BlackCats> that's how some of the best ideas happen...by mistake

<Jambalaya> yep

<Scout> In regards to Blackcats last idea of the repeated background, mount the main one over a layer of solid paper and place on card to give more of an accent

<Jambalaya> i never admitted i had been clumsy<g>

<EvieNC> Suppose you are coloring an image with a marker and you go outside the lines. How do you fix that?

<Judy> cut image out?

<BlackCats> hi vincentia

<BlackCats> that would work

<EvieNC> I guess that's one way, Judy.

<Jambalaya> evie, go outside the lines all around, so it has that watercolor effect

<Vincentia> hiya!

<EvieNC> But some images are just not adaptable to that.

<BlackCats> yes, like a halo

<Judy> create matching background

<Jambalaya> hi Vincentia

<BlackCats> or shadow

<MomCat> put a charm or sticker over it

<EvieNC> I think I am too particular.

<BlackCats> lol

<Scout> I take a matching pen and try to make the outline a little wider. Just depends how far you went over

<BlackCats> coming to a satisfactory agreement with your inner critic is one of the very important things about art

<MomCat> that is a big problem to overcome - being picky about your own work

<EvieNC> Yes, it is hard to overcome.

<BlackCats> handmade doesn't mean perfect

<MomCat> but, ya-know there is probably a "mistake" in every card i have made for classes

<Scout> Wonder how many of the great paintings of the world had mistakes that were turned to genius by covering up

<Jambalaya> oh, and make yourself a pretty box and label it experiments gone bad

<BlackCats> good idea

<EvieNC> Now there's an idea I can relate to.

<MomCat> and as far as I can tell nobody but me can tell

<Paivi> but there's difference between hand-made and home-made

<BlackCats> or if you have a card that gets a bad error in the middle

<BlackCats> but the edges are ok

<EvieNC> I don't think any of us want our cards to look anything but professional. Do we?

<BlackCats> use it as a layer

<Scout> Paivi, maybe that's what someone told Grandma Moses at first, vbg

<MomCat> Evie, I decided not to make myself trying to have my work look professional

<Scout> I'm a latent grandma moses

<BlackCats> i use the edges of inkpads to color the edges of my cards a lot

<MomCat> me too Scout

<EvieNC> I do that too, Blackcat. And sometimes the inkpad slips!

<BlackCats> and sometimes if there is a little smear or smudge on the card

<BlackCats> i'll take my pinkie and dab a bit of ink very lightly here and there

<MomCat> I decided if Gradma Moses could paint thanksgiving with the plates looking like they are about to fall off the table

<MomCat> I could make crooded borders

<Scout> and with no perspective, Mom cat

<BlackCats> lol

<MomCat> crooked

<BlackCats> good advice, mc

<EvieNC> But that suited her style, Momcat.

<BlackCats> or point of view, i mean

<Scout> do we all have to wait till we turn 80 to be recognized, tho?

<MomCat> crooked borders suit my style, Evie

<BlackCats> nope

<BlackCats> not at all, scout

<EvieNC> LOL, Momcat. More power to you!

<MomCat> ty

<BlackCats> and hey, we are all doing this for fun

<BlackCats> and to allow our creative spirit to come out

<Jambalaya> bingo BlackCats!

<Scout> what do you guys do when using double sided tape to attach stuff and it gets on crooked or not in the right place?

<BlackCats> so if it makes us happy

<MomCat> and I can't/don't make straight layers even with Evo templates

<Judy> "Smudges and smears happen naturally when you stamp with all your heart"

<BlackCats> it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks

<EvieNC> I know that's true. I have a friend who is so much more creative than I am, and she just does not worry about stuff like that.

<MomCat> but I learned that I could tear around the templates

<Judy> have a stamp that says that

<MomCat> or cut around them with decorative scissors

<BlackCats> yes

<Scout> I like glue better cause I can move it around. That tape sometimes refuses to move over

<BlackCats> there's a stamp i need to get that says something like, smudges and smears courtesy of the cat

<Jambalaya> scout, you can lift it back up by using a piece of thread to separate the adhesive

<MomCat> and because I can 't seemed to get the borders lined up evenly

<Judy> Scout - the tape can sometimes be removed so you can start again

<Jambalaya> use the thread like dental floss

<MomCat> i mean the layers lined up

<Scout> ah, good idea, Jam. Never thought of that.

<MomCat> so I do them on slanted on purpose

<Jambalaya> of course, i've only read that, i've never laid anything down crooked myself<g>

<BlackCats> oh, lots of time when using double sided tape

<Scout> Ever accidently bend the corner of a card.....photo corners are good to cover that up

<MomCat> Scout, I ues repositionable tape to lay stuff out

<BlackCats> you will have a little edge of sticky

<MomCat> and then glue or permanent tape to stick it down tight

<BlackCats> i use transluscent glitter to cover that sticky edge

<Scout> Always frosts me when I pull out a piece of cardstock and find one of the corners icky.

<BlackCats> corner punches are good for that

<BlackCats> or...

<BlackCats> my card for last nite's mystery stamp

<BlackCats> didn't start out with the corners cut that way

<BlackCats> messed up one of the corners

<Jambalaya> lol

<BlackCats> so cut the other 3 off to match

<BlackCats> deckle or other decorative scissors are good for things like that too

<Scout> That was such a pretty card, BC

<BlackCats> ty

<Jambalaya> oh and all 4 corners don't have to match either

<BlackCats> yes

<Jambalaya> sometimes it's pretty cool, when just one corner is different

<BlackCats> yes

<Jambalaya> or 2 opposite corners

<Jambalaya> i love that look

<BlackCats> or use a corner punch in opposite corners

<BlackCats> lol

<Jambalaya> channeling<g>

<BlackCats> jam and i are channelling

<BlackCats> rofl

<Judy> still are

<Jambalaya> ok, stop that now<g>

<BlackCats> ya noticed <G>

<Scout> It is also murphy's law that if a just stamp card falls off the table, it falls face down, just like a piece of buttered bread. And I make matters worse by rolling my chair back to find it, and run over it witha wheel

<Scout> Big mistake coverup

<Jambalaya> roflmao scout

<BlackCats> y'all, we get real silly in here sometimes

<Judy> recycle bin is handy for those Scout

<BlackCats> yes

<Scout> Gonna ink up my chair wheels and make it a design

<BlackCats> or never fails...

<BlackCats> i'll get a run of cards set out to dry

<Jambalaya> hey good idea scout

<BlackCats> and here comes a cat or three

<BlackCats> so i have paw prints all over

<Judy> could look nice on the right card, Monica

<BlackCats> lol

<EvieNC> and I have to remove a cat off my desk before I can even begin to stamp.

<BlackCats> i'm in a cat card club that is high volume swaps

<BlackCats> so do production runs

<Jambalaya> well monica does tend to use a lot of cat images<g>

<BlackCats> more than one run has gone out with cat's embellishments

<BlackCats> <G>

<Scout> Another mistake is trying to pick out blending colors when working at nite. I use my Ott lite to see if they really go match

<BlackCats> but folks are used to getting pawprints and/or fur with my cards <G>

<Jambalaya> oh, ever try stamping on acetate, and get a blurred image?

<Scout> do match

<Jambalaya> just wipe it off with alcohol and start over

<BlackCats> yes! scout

<CJ> thanks for that tip

<BlackCats> good lighting is vital to good color matching

<Jambalaya> alcohol cleans off dominoes too

<BlackCats> on the acetate trick

<Scout> good to know, Jam

<MomCat> I use the full spectrum lights from the dragon cages for matching at night

<BlackCats> give your acetate a 1/4 turn before the next stamping

<Scout> dragon cages?

<MomCat> bearded dragon lizards

<Vincentia> why turn the acetate?

<Scout> ah, thank goodness I thought komodo!

<MomCat> lol

<BlackCats> i've found that a lot of times if you stamp in the same spot again

<BlackCats> you'll get the same mistake again

<Jambalaya> good tip monica

<BlackCats> but turning the acetate will change that

<BlackCats> and, when stamping on acetate

<Scout> oh, in the same spot where you wiped off, you mean?

<BlackCats> don't press down hard

<BlackCats> just kiss the stamp to the acetate

<BlackCats> yes, scout

<Jambalaya> ya, that's the hardest thing to remember with acetate, just "kiss" it

<BlackCats> and...if you are going to be doing a lot of things with acetate

<BlackCats> do yourself a favor

<BlackCats> get the good stuff

<Scout> But if you eventually stamp in that spot with something else, does it slide more or something?

<EvieNC> How do you know what is the good stuff?

<BlackCats> the cheap stuff doesn't work as well and you'll end up throwing out a lot

<Jambalaya> by cost<g>

<BlackCats> price

<EvieNC> ok, TY

<BlackCats> if you get it from a mall vendor

<BlackCats> it is good quality

<BlackCats> if you get it from office supply store

<BlackCats> go by price

<CJ> Which vendor sells it?

<BlackCats> discount store brands aren't likely to be the quality you need to get a good image

<Scout> How does the stuff you get off a bubble package work?

<BlackCats> um, check Rubber Chicken

<BlackCats> if she doesn't have it on her website

<BlackCats> email her

<Jambalaya> and i think creative images has acetate too, but check

<CJ> She has almost everything

<BlackCats> she has a lot of stuff that is not on her website

<BlackCats> or can get it for you

<BlackCats> you just have to ask

<BlackCats> or, right, creative images does have it

<Jambalaya> stubby has it sometimes, you can ask

<BlackCats> our vendors are very accommodating

<BlackCats> all you have to do is ask

<Judy> gotta go write up notes for my class tonight

<MomCat> creative images has clear boxes, check covers, etc.

<Judy> it's Shadow Stamping at 10:00 EDT

<BlackCats> and if they don't have something they may be able to steer you in the right direction

<Jambalaya> see ya then judy

<Judy> bye!

<BlackCats> ok, time for a bio break

<BlackCats> next class is in #cyberstampers

<Jambalaya> NEXT EVENT IS IN #cyberstampers

<EvieNC> Thanks, ladies. Enjoyed it.

<BlackCats> yw

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