<Jambalaya> well, it's a discussion class
<Beezy> well.. i have never used unmounted stamps
<Beezy> im curious what ways you adhere them to a block?
<Jambalaya> you can save a lot of money and space using um's
<Beezy> or we could talk about the election
<Beezy> :)
* Jambalaya doesn't do politics
<Beezy> thats for sure
<Beezy> and ive seen several sheets so far in the convention stores that i loooove
<Jambalaya> i use gluestick to mount my stamps
<Jambalaya> a lot of folks use poster tape
<Jambalaya> and there are a lot of other ways too
<Beezy> do you pee them off when you are done?
<Jambalaya> i've tried them all
<Beezy> lol
<Beezy> peel
<Jambalaya> lol
<Jambalaya> yes,
<Jambalaya> when i'm stamping a lot, i keep a bowl of water on my table
<Jambalaya> then just peel off the stamps and toss them in the water
<Beezy> so when you buy a sheet , hwhat do you use to cut the seperate images out?
<Jambalaya> so the glue and the ink gets washed off
<Jambalaya> any good scissors will cut rubber, but you really want kai scissors
<Jambalaya> several of our vendors sell kai's
<Beezy> is that a brand?
<Jambalaya> yes
<Jambalaya> evolving images, and circustamps both sell them
<Jambalaya> they are the sharpest scissors you'll ever find
<Beezy> I heard the unmounted are great for stamping on round surfaces too?
<Jambalaya> yes indeed
<Jambalaya> and i use them with clay alot too
<Jambalaya> hi evie
<EvieNC> hello again, Jamba
<Jambalaya> we're talking about unmounted stamps
<EvieNC> Love 'em.
<EvieNC> storage is so much easier.
<Beezy> i took janet classs last night but i got confused because i havent worked wigth polymer clay before
<Jambalaya> yes it is
<EvieNC> and price also
<EvieNC> So how has the discussion gone so far? Most like UMs or Mtd?
<Jambalaya> poly clay is almost as addictive as stamps, beezy
<Jambalaya> beezy has never used um's yet
<EvieNC> OIC
<EvieNC> I buy both, design is my major criteria.
<Jambalaya> and everyone else is away from keyboard<g>
<Beezy> but i really like several of the vendors stamp sheets
<EvieNC> I see all those AKFs.
<Beezy> so i want to learn how to use them
<EvieNC> Some of my favs came unmounted.
<EvieNC> Jamb, do you use Easy Mount or?
<Jambalaya> beezy, the first time you trim a stamp is the only time you'll be scared<g>
<Jambalaya> no, i use gluestick
<EvieNC> I use Easy Mount, just can't seem to get as good an image without a cushion. Just me, I guess.
<Jambalaya> i've tried all the systems, and to me, all are a waste of money
<Beezy> yes i was wondering about the cutting
<Jambalaya> that's just my personal opinion
<EvieNC> If it works for you without the cushion, then go for it.
<Beezy> one lady i met said she stuck her UM to casset boxes as her base
<Jambalaya> hi pest
<pest> hi ladies
<Jambalaya> yes beezy, that's a good way to try it out
<Jambalaya> pest, do you use um's?
<Beezy> hi pest
<pest> yes
<EvieNC> I was very lucky. My husband had all these thick acrylic sheets left over from some project.
<pest> hey Breezy
<Beezy> yes
<Jambalaya> that's great evie
<EvieNC> So he cuts whatever size I need. Lucky me.
<Beezy> wow....that is handy
<Jambalaya> but they aren't all that expensive if you have to buy them
<Jambalaya> you get a lot of use from them
<EvieNC> Another thing I like about UMs is that you can see where you are stamping them if using acrylic blocks.
<Jambalaya> yes, and you get spoiled with being able to see where you stamp
<Jambalaya> after that, you don't like wood mounts anymore<g>
<Jambalaya> i've yanked most of mine off the wood
<EvieNC> Only problem is that some designs you like don't come UM :-(
<pest> and, they are expensive!
<EvieNC> You got that right1
<Jambalaya> well, almost all of our vendors sell um
<pest> I was checking on a couple today. 2 stamps were 21.00 !!
<EvieNC> Even very small ones are expensive.
<Jambalaya> y'all have been shopping in the wrong places<g>
<EvieNC> Sometimes I use a 40% off coupon, but choices are limited.
<pest> just saw something I liked
<EvieNC> Jamba, good place to shop would be?
<deb> hi everyone
<EvieNC> Hi Deb
<Jambalaya> our vendor mall of course!!!
<deb> hi evie
<EvieNC> I knew you were gonna say that!
<deb> oh our vendor mall is awesome for unmounted rubber
<deb> really!!
<Jambalaya> specifically this week, the convention booths
<deb> yeah - most of it is on sale
<pest> I'm buying from a couple of them this week for sure
<Jambalaya> good!
<Beezy> i was happy to find an instructional video in rubber chicken
<pest> on what subject?
<Jambalaya> rubber chicken has almost everything
<Beezy> I dont know why more artists and companies dont make instructional videos
<Beezy> altered book arts Tim.... somthin??
<Jambalaya> i think cuz they are rather expensive beezy
<Beezy> i like being able to watch it then stop rewind ...etc
<Jambalaya> yes
<Jambalaya> that is convenient
<EvieNC> I enjoy them so much, watch over and over.
<Beezy> my favorite way is live classes, but there isnt anything closer then 75 miles from me
<Jambalaya> well, and right here on your puter<g>
<EvieNC> I have the Tim Holtz DVD and MaryJo M. DVD.
<Jambalaya> for free!
<pest> I would have to double that mileage here
<deb> the best classes are HERE
<deb> : )
<Beezy> yes, but i personally would do much better with at least a list of supplies several weeks in advance
<Beezy> wow pest....isnt it sad
<pest> very
<Jambalaya> well you know beezy, you might enjoy the class logs
<pest> I've learned everything over the computer
<Jambalaya> they are always there for reference
<Beezy> then I could go through the motions during web class , then do the project right afterwards
<deb> and you can do them at your leisure
<Beezy> thats true, i forgot there is a log
<pest> can you see examples?
<deb> in your own hojme
<deb> or with a friend
<Jambalaya> yes, the samples are placed in line on the logs
<Jambalaya> everyone say thank you cak
<pest> ty cak
<deb> ty cak
<EvieNC> TY cak
<pest> does cak do the newletter?
<Beezy> thankyou cak
<deb> she does the logs
<Jambalaya> cak does the logs
<EvieNC> I used to log these sessions for myself.
<deb> faithfully every week
<deb> for as long as I can remember
<Beezy> so are they listed as class logs on the main page??
<deb> yes
<Jambalaya> there is a link to them on the schedule page
<Beezy> great!
<Jambalaya> http://www.cyberstampers.com/schedule.html
<Jambalaya> bookmark that page
<Jambalaya> everything you need , you can get to from that page
<Beezy> ty:)
<Jambalaya> ok, so back to um's
<deb> back to unmounteds
<Jambalaya> deb, what mounting system do you like best?
<deb> who uses them?
<deb> lol
<deb> well
<deb> I mostly use the halos
<deb> but
<deb> I've been contemplating that easy mount lately
<Jambalaya> oh we haven't covered halos, tell us about them?
<deb> ok
<deb> they are the hook and loop tape
<deb> and you put the hook or loop
<deb> I always forget which is which
<Jambalaya> hi patty
<deb> on the backside of the stamp
<Patty> Hi Jam
<EvieNC> deb, I use easy mount and love it.
<deb> and cut around your stamps
<deb> and then you put your loop on the acrylic block
<deb> they have little grooves
<deb> made in the acrylic blocks
<deb> just for the little strips of loop
<deb> so that when you slap that stamp on it
<deb> it will catch
<deb> and then you can see through the acrylic
<Jambalaya> evolving images sells the halo system
<deb> when you go to position your stamp
<deb> on the card
<pest> kinda like velcro?
<deb> it's pretty cool
<deb> yes
<deb> exactly
<deb> it comes in yards of loop/tape
<deb> like 6" wide
<deb> or something like that
<deb> in a roll anyway
<Jambalaya> and the halos act as cushion, right?
<deb> yes
<deb> the thickness of the halso
<deb> halos
<deb> acts as a cushion for your stamp
<deb> now
<deb> when you go to store your stamps
<deb> you can take strips of the loop
<deb> and put it on either clear
<deb> sheet protectors
<deb> with your images stamped on paper that is put inside
<deb> and then just slap your images on that
<deb> and then store them in 3 ring binders
<deb> OR
<deb> you can store t hem like I do
<deb> in vhs video boxes
<deb> with the stamp stamped on the outside of the box
<deb> in colorful inks
<deb> I have a whole s helf full
<Jambalaya> i went to the video boxes for storage too, but i keep my um's nekid
<pest> dinner has arrived....see ya in a bit! ty Jam!!
<deb> but
<deb> some of the tiny alphabets that I have
<Beezy> ok pest
<Jambalaya> hi shu-z-q
<deb> I store in large prescription bottles
<deb> they are great
<deb> I got that idea from janet
<deb> le janet that is
<Jambalaya> good idea, and you could use the bottle as a peg!
<deb> I also keep a few CD cases for um too
<deb> yes
<deb> I do keep a piece of loop on top of it
<EvieNC> Mine are in CD cases and DVD cases.
<Jambalaya> ya, i have my small sets of alphabets in cd cases
<Beezy> i like that ides
<Beezy> idea
<deb> I like to recycle stuff I have
<deb> less stuff going to trash
<Beezy> right on
<Jambalaya> trash?
<Jambalaya> what's trash?
<deb> : )
<deb> artists are the BEST for the environmnent
<Beezy> no doubt
<EvieNC> trash is that stuff you can't find a way to use on a card.
<Jambalaya> true!
<deb> lol
<Jambalaya> uhhhh, i don't have any trash then
<deb> now the other mounting system I'm looking into is the easy mount system
<deb> it's a gray foam looking stuff
<deb> that just clings to you cd/dvd cases
<deb> of course
<deb> I've been know to use nothing
<deb> just slap the um on the side of something and stamp away
<deb> without any cushion or anything
<deb> a small piece of 2 sided tape and I'm ready to roll
<deb> sometimes I've very um
<deb> what's the word
<deb> impatient
<deb> that's not the word I was looking for but it will work I guess
<deb> lol
<Jambalaya> i just slap some gluestick on it and go
<deb> yep
<Beezy> spontaneous
<deb> has everyone here tried unmounteds?
<deb> YES
<deb> that's it
<deb> thanks Beezy
<Jambalaya> if it's a large stamp, i use fun foam under the paper
<Beezy> :)
<deb> last night I stamped without even the tape
<deb> just with my hand
<deb> lol
<Beezy> i reaaly liked learning the idea of turning the stamp over and pressing the paper to it
<deb> I coudln't leave the puter to go find stuff
<deb> yes I thought that was an intriguing idea
<Beezy> id never though of that
<deb> me either
<Jambalaya> have you tried it yet beezy?
<deb> IDID
<deb> IDIDI
<Beezy> yes
<deb> it was cool
<Jambalaya> good
<Beezy> first time it smeared then i did it again
<deb> I tried it on my class sample!!!!
<Jambalaya> cool
<Beezy> but the next morning i decided i like the smear and stamped a backround over it
<deb> and it was a large stamp so it really worked good
<deb> lol
<deb> true artist
<Beezy> i always like my work much better several days later
<EvieNC> Why is that? It has happened to me also.
<deb> hmm
<Beezy> it was always that way whn i used to write papers too
<Beezy> maybe our brains go into some kin of overdrive while furiousley working
<deb> anyone prefer mounted over unmounted???
<Beezy> i cant wait to get some unmounted
<EvieNC> deb, I think I get a better impression with mounted when it's a large background stamp.
<Beezy> i just gave a bunch of old mount ed to an afterschool kids program
<deb> really?
<Beezy> i couldnt bring myself to throw them in the trash
<deb> I haven't had any problem with my large backgrtound stamps
<deb> I have several mounteds I need to get rid of
<Beezy> when we had a stamp store in town we used to do stamp swaps which was a blast
<deb> just some images I don't want anymore
<Jambalaya> i don't part with stamps usually<g>
<deb> I gave a bunch to my niece
<deb> and some to my nephew
<EvieNC> I am selfish, find it hard to part with them.
<Beezy> im a gemini, so i tire of things prdty quickly
<Beezy> plus there are so many new designs coming out
<Jambalaya> ya as soon as you do, you'll find a need for them
<deb> well I've been trying to honestly look at stuff and say - hmm am I really going to use this
<Beezy> yes
<deb> I have 2 pounds of unmounteds sitting here I'm going to list on ebay probably
<Beezy> im doing that with everyhting in my house
<Beezy> i wonder if there is a way to do a swap online??
<Jambalaya> there are yahoo groups that trade stamps
<deb> we had an online garage sale here once
<Beezy> i need to get a scanner for christmas
<deb> we could probably do that again
<Beezy> that woukld be so much fun
<deb> you'd just have to scan your images
<Beezy> right
<deb> and then send them to whoever was doing the garage sale
<deb> I'll ask janet if we can do that again
<deb> sometime after convention
<Beezy> that is a good idea
<deb> it's fun
<deb> what do you do when you have a stamp that won't stamp well
<Beezy> step on it
<Jambalaya> lol
<Beezy> :)
<deb> lol
<deb> I've had a few that don't stamp well
<Jambalaya> well, you have to figure out why it won't stamp well
<Beezy> i had that happen with a set i bought several yr ago from qvc craft day
<deb> first I try to sand it
<EvieNC> deb, clean it, clean it, clean it...get all that silicone residue off of it.
<Jambalaya> sand it?????
<deb> yes
<Jambalaya> is you nutz>????
<deb> rough it up a bit
<EvieNC> be very careful sanding...
<deb> with a rough paper towel
<EvieNC> it's silicone deposits that cause the problem.
<Beezy> someone said lightly buffing with a nail thingy
<EvieNC> MaryJo says it's better to clean it before you ever use it than to clean it afterward. I like that.
<deb> good advice
<Jambalaya> yes, that's true
<Beezy> has anyone used unmounted onto glass?
<Jambalaya> and soap and water will not hurt a stamp
<deb> you mean stamped onglass?
<Beezy> yes
<deb> yes
<EvieNC> as on slides?
<Beezy> i want to stamp wine glasses for the holidays
<Jambalaya> yes beezy, you can stamp on glass
<deb> its great because you can go around the glass
<deb> but
<deb> stamping on glass is tricky
<deb> because it is SLICK
<Beezy> thats what ive heard
<deb> moves easily
<Jambalaya> and there is no ink that won't wash off
<Beezy> ahhhhh...
<Beezy> i went to a craft fair last year and a women had stamped a holly berry patter on glasses and was charging 5 dollsrs a glass
<Jambalaya> so glasses might not be the best thing to stamp on, unless you don't mind it being temporary
<Beezy> maybe she used some kind of paint??
<Jambalaya> ok, now there are glass paints that you could stamp with, and they'll need to be baked
<Beezy> aha
<EvieNC> I have to run now, got a meeting online.
<deb> ok
<Jambalaya> bye evie
<deb> bye evie
<EvieNC> Thanks so much, enjoyed it. BYE
<deb> wow - that was a quick hour
<Beezy> that must be what she did because she said she stamped the design and they were washable
<Jambalaya> wow the hour is up already
<Beezy> oh my whats up next??
<Jambalaya> NEXT EVENT IS IN : #wildfrog
<Beezy> see ya there
<deb> thanks for the info vicki
<Beezy> thanks for all the help and great ideas
* deb loves unmounteds
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