<fab> I think Red must be out having a good time
<fab> And forgot us!
<phyl> or napping
<Jambalaya> OK, I HAVE THE CLASS PAGE
<cak> or cursing at her computer
<fab> ty
<Jambalaya> AND I'LL HOST THE CLASS FOR RED
<fab> go for it
<phyl> ty Jam
<Jambalaya> http://www.enchantedink.com/class0319/class0319.htm
<BlackCats> just put your cursor over that link and double click, suzanne
<Suzanne> no
<Suzanne> k
<Jambalaya> AND IF YOU GET DUMPED, COME RIGHT BACK
<cak> This class is gonna be great. I have such a problem with closures on books
<Jambalaya> FIRST LET ME REMIND Y'ALL THAT ENCHANTED INK HAS BEEN THE STORE OF THE WEEK ALL THIS WEEK
<Jambalaya> AND THERE ARE SOME SPECIALS
<cak> oooooo, Red specials! (this is good news)
<BlackCats> yep
<Jambalaya> To celebrate, here's what we have for you!
[specials are detailed]
<Jambalaya> www.enchantedink.com
<phyl> wow look at all those free words
<Jambalaya> LOL
<BlackCats> really!
<cherub78> hey, that's tomorrow! yikes!
<Jambalaya> PHYL'S FAVORITE WORD
<phyl> you betcha
<Jambalaya> YA BUT YOU HAVE ALL DAY TOMORROW TO MAKE YOUR LISTS!
<cak> which means I'll be spending more money
<BlackCats> lol
<cherub78> well, the weather here is supposed to be cruddy, so what else do I have to do but shop!
<BlackCats> especially when there is such a great special
<phyl> The shaped slots and tabs on her books is a really neat idea
<cak> she is so inventive
<BlackCats> http://www.enchantedink.com/class0319/class0319.htm
[specials detailed again for others just joining]
<cak> does this include her wonderful papers?
<Suzanne> great will ck it out!
<Jambalaya> ANYTHING YOU BUY 4 OF, YOU GET THE 5TH ONE FREE
<cak> we need them to make some soft cover books
<cak> cool, thanks
<BlackCats> yep, we sure do
<Jambalaya> FROM BOTH ENCHANTED INK, AND THE SISTER SITE COLLAGABILITIES
<Jambalaya> SO MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THEM BOTH OUT
<cak> you can see that Red's really thought about closures. I love how she's categorized them for us. Makes it so much easier to see your options
<Jambalaya> RED HAS SO MUCH COOL STUFF
<Stampverb> Jam is our substitute teacher, so be nice, Janet! <g>
<phyl> Hey Janet
<cak> so I know that Jamba and Janet and BlackCats and I have made softcover books (we were at Red's BookWorks), is anyone else interested in bookmaking?
<Janet> I'll be angelic 0: )
<joy> yes
<cherub78> I do quite a bit
<Janet> I love making books.
<Jambalaya> LETS ALL READ THE CLASS PAGE, AND DISCUSS IT
<cak> cool
<Jambalaya> LIKE CAK JUST SAID, SOME OF US WILL HAVE ANSWERS FOR ANY QUESTIONS
<Maren> yes, I love making books
<Jambalaya> EVERYONE HAVE THE CLASS PAGE OPEN?
<Stampverb> yes
<cherub78> OK- first one on button closure- she is using a small circle on the other side. I have found a small button there works great too.
<BlackCats> that's a really good idea to add the circles of paper to the button area for stability
<cak> doesn't it bulk up the cover a lot cherub78? (well, obviously not or you wouldn't do it)
<Janet> yes! why didn't we think of that?<g>
<BlackCats> lol
<Stampverb> just like sewing buttons to light fabric clothes
<phyl> a brad would work there too
<BlackCats> exactly
<Jambalaya> GOOD IDEA cherub78, WHEN YOU NEED IT REAL STURDY
<cherub78> not on the ones I have done, but I think it depends on the style of the book
<Janet> I've often wondered if ironing interfacing on different papers would work or not.
<Janet> but I've never done it, I've just sat and wondered.
<Jambalaya> LOL
<cherub78> lol
<Janet> think it would work?
<cak> there's been some discussion on the Book Arts List about that--mostly about making your own bookcloth for covers
<Jambalaya> WELL, IT WORKS ON FABRIC, SO I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULDN'T WORK ON HANDMADE PAPERS
<cherub78> i think the button closure is my fav one to do
<Stampverb> hint: you can buy very thin strong buttons meant to be sewn on the back like this -- they would not bulk up a book much
<BlackCats> might, give it a try janet
<Suzanne> i like sewing paper
<Janet> I've never sewed paper, just embroidered it. Oh other than bookbinding, too.
<cak> kind of like ironing paper to freezer paper? I think that would work great
<Janet> but embroidery on paper is really fun
<Suzanne> yep
<BlackCats> yeah? got any hints or tips on sewing paper, suzanne?
<joy> 've interfaced material to paper with the iron on-works great
<Janet> oh cool!!!
<Suzanne> use sharp, quilters needles
<cherub78> hand sewing or machine sewing it?
<BlackCats> ooh, good idea
<Suzanne> both
<cherub78> i have a terrible time trying it with the machine
<Janet> (now that I think, I've done that too, used interfacing to attach cloth to bookboard)
<Suzanne> on machine, I interface with regular interfacing or sometimes dryer sheets
<Jambalaya> YES JANET, YOU DID THAT AT BOOKWORKS
<Janet> I made scraps trying to sew paper with my machine
<Janet> then again, I've made cloth scraps with my machine, too
<Janet> I think my machine hates me
<Suzanne> cardstock works best heh heh
<BlackCats> used dryer sheets?
<Suzanne> yep dryer sheets
<Janet> dryer sheets are great for backgrounds!
<cherub78> my machine always skips or the bobbin thread looks weird (tension problems?)
<Janet> (and they smell so good)
<Suzanne> stick em down with a little double sided tape
<Suzanne> yep J a good thing :)
<Janet> yeah, I always have tension problems, especially with paper
<cherub78> i just always have tension probs- paper or otherwise
<Janet> I think it's time to buy me a new sewing machine. Except that's hard to justify for a once a year darning session
<Suzanne> takes practice - I go slowly 'til I get in past the chewing paper part
<Jambalaya> DARNING???
<Janet> ohhhh so once you get in past the edge, it stops chewing up your paper?
<cherub78> BUT I just bought a brand new one (actually dh gave me one) and still problems!
<Jambalaya> CALL THAT SOCK A DOGGIE TOY AND BUY NEW ONES, JEEZ
<Janet> LOL that's why that sock is on the darning pile. the doggie already called it a toy.
<cak> interfacing would be great to back soft covers for the slot and tab closure too
<Janet> oh yeah! it really would!!
<Suzanne> yep cak
<Jambalaya> IT WOULD
<cherub78> The slot and tab looks hard to close- is it?
<Janet> utoh i'm starting to get inspired now
<cak> and I love the fact that you can use lots and lots of things for your tab--sticks, paper, uh, uh, (help me here ladies)
<Janet> no, it's not at all, and it's easy to make
<BlackCats> good to know
<Janet> hardened cat whorf<g>
<Jambalaya> THAT PARTICULAR PAPER IS VERY HEAVY, AND WOULDN'T NEED IT, BUT LINING WOULD MAKE LIGHTER PAPERS WORK JUST AS WELL
<cak> lol
<BlackCats> that's an interesting closure idea
<cak> (I got lots of that)
<cherub78> do you have to "thread" both ends through? Isn't that tricky to do?
<Janet> (I got lots of that too, or used to, now the dog eats it)
<Suzanne> ewww
<Janet> that's not the worst of what he eats.<g>
<Janet> but don't let me derail this train of a class with gross pepper stories<g>
* Jambalaya Bops Janet
<BlackCats> oooh, can't you just see the slip cover done using a complimentary or contrasting tissue paper?
<Jambalaya> CONSIDER YERSELF BACK ON TRACK
<cak> I think the secret is to make sure your slot isn't too small?
<Janet> other than to share that April whorfed on his head last night.
* phyl tapes Janet's mouth with duct tape
<BlackCats> red's tissues are so very beautiful
<cherub78> lol cak- care to rephrase that
<Suzanne> she's gonna get a time out, that one
<cak> (good end of the thread)
<Suzanne> i need to ask a ? re: tissue paper
<BlackCats> yes?
<Jambalaya> YES Suzanne?
<Janet> you need it, Suzanne
<Suzanne> is the tissue paper used for book covers etc the same as I can buy at WalMart?
<Jambalaya> NO, REDSTICKS TISSUE IS SPECIAL
<Suzanne> seems to be thinner and more translucent colors
<BlackCats> red of enchanted ink makes the most beautiful tissues
<Janet> very special, it's all hand painted
<cherub78> ench ink has VERY pretty tissue!
<BlackCats> after class I'll give you a couple of links to look at, suzanne
<Jambalaya> IT'S HAND DYED AND HAND PAINTED SO THAT EVERY SHEET IS UNIQUE
<BlackCats> one is the link to the vendor mall and red's site
<Suzanne> oh will look later tonight ok thx I received a beautimous little journal covered in awesome tissue paper
<Jambalaya> http://www.enchantedink.com
<Janet> and a long time ago she did a class on how to make it. I tried it and will never try again. It's cheap at twice the price, trust me.
<Suzanne> can't find it
<Suzanne> red's is enchanted ink?
* Janet ended up with her bowls of acrylic paint floating in her pool, cost me $110, that batch of paper did.
<cak> I wonder if you could back some of her more translucent tissues with different colors and have a coordinated set of papers?
<Jambalaya> SUZANNE, I THINK WERE OUT OF THE ROOM WHEN I SAID THE SPECIALS FOR STORE OF THE WEEK
<BlackCats> http://www.enchantedink.com/paper.htm
<Jambalaya> I'LL REPEAT THEM AGAIN AT END OF CLASS
<Janet> I know I missed them.
<Suzanne> i saw them but didn't know about the tissue paper
<BlackCats> there's the link for the papers, suzanne
<BlackCats> that scan doesn't even begin to do those papers justice
<Suzanne> th you
<BlackCats> yw
<Jambalaya> JANET, GET THE CREDIT CARD OUT HONEY, SPECIALS INVOLVE FREE STUFFS<G>
<Suzanne> guys - my scratch paper is filling up quick with a shopping list
<BlackCats> lol, that's how it goes here <G>
<Janet> ohboy ohboy ohboy
<Suzanne> now, I'M gonna have to shoot MY dh before morning
<cherub78> I have to go all. Jam- thanks for sub-ing! nite all
<cak> you know, I've always kinda dismissed slipcovers, but you can put some wonderful stuff on em, can't you? and how about combining slipcover with slot and tab?
<Janet> I'll just tell mine I need tissue paper to entertain me during my convolescence
<joy> nite cherub
<Jambalaya> I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THE SAME THING CAK!
<Jambalaya> ANOTHER SURFACE TO DECORATE!
<BlackCats> right
<cak> gmta!
<Janet> slip covers are great for those little books with, say, just a four-page signature as total of book
<BlackCats> and the tissues work great with a junk piece of cs run thru the xyron
<cak> the slipcover gives it a larger "presence"?
<Janet> LOL I was reading ahead of you typing, BC, and was thinking decorating is great with a piece of CD run through the microwave
<Janet> it does. I love decorating the little slipcovers.
<cak> lol Janet--interesting ideas are born like that
<fab> What does the microwave do to a CD?
<Janet> it crackles it
<Janet> way cool texture
<Suzanne> omigosh don't try that
<Jambalaya> CRACKLES IT, REALLY COOL
<fab> Ohhh, pretty
<Suzanne> really?
<Janet> really!
<Suzanne> i exploded an egg once
<BlackCats> like 10 - 15 seconds?
<Janet> go put a CD, metallic side up, in your microwave. then turn out all the lights.
<fab> How long to zap it?
<Janet> then nuke it 8 seconds
<Jambalaya> MORE LIKE 5 SECONDS
<Suzanne> cool
<Janet> the best part is the light show
<Jambalaya> DISCLAIMER HERE:
<Janet> but when it's done, you've got it crackled
<BlackCats> ah, good to know
<joy> janet and sparkles
<Janet> be sure and turn off all the lights before nuking your CD
<Jambalaya> I ONLY DO IT WHEN TRAVELING, AND THE HOTEL ROOM HAS A MICROWAVE<G>
<Suzanne> how 'bout the micro
<Suzanne> :)
<Janet> it doesn't hurt the microwave. dang it.
<Janet> i've been trying to kill my 26 year old microwave for years.
<Jambalaya> WELL, EVEN SO, IT STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN
<Suzanne> i bet so
<Janet> it does stink. but it doesn't hurt the microwave at all
<Suzanne> burning petrochemicals
<Suzanne> yum
<joy> look out ozone
<Janet> and it's a great family evening, gathering everybody together to watch the dancing sparks on the CD
<fab> best done with open windows?
<Jambalaya> WELL, WE'RE ARTISTS, NO ONE EVER CLAIMED WE WERE BRIGHT<G>
<BlackCats> lol
<BlackCats> hmmmm, think my next book may have this ribbon closure
<Janet> or maybe we're not bright because of the chemicals I sniff?
<Jambalaya> FAB, BEST DONE IN HOTEL ROOM RIGHT BEFORE YOU CHECK OUT<G>
<BlackCats> that's really pretty
<Suzanne> i was just loooking at that exact one Cat
<cak> I'm not a fan of pink, but I could see this in another color for sure
<Suzanne> i printed it out
<Janet> oh pooh, Jams. You know as well as I do, you always do it in MY hotel room, then you go to bed in yours.
<BlackCats> isn't that really neat?!
<Jambalaya> TEE HEE
<Suzanne> looks like Anna Griffin
<BlackCats> yeah, it does
<Janet> that ribbon one doesn't hit me at all, but maybe in another color I'd love it.
<fab> What are you looking at?
<Janet> down towards the bottom of the class page, Fab
<cak> http://www.enchantedink.com/class0319/class0319.htm
<Suzanne> I have to try the button though 'cause my grandmama left me vintage buttons - i've made ornaments, picture frames all kinds of things
<Jambalaya> I'M PICTURING THE RIBBON ONE IN A HEAVY NATURAL HANDMADE PAPER, AND LACED WITH A JUTE TYPE FIBER
<BlackCats> oooh, how lucky to has such a neat stash, suzanne
<Suzanne> yep Jam
<cak> I think I'd like it a lot cut in a diagonal pattern
<BlackCats> ah, I was seeing it done with those varigated ribbons they have at the M store now
<fab> You mean the ribbon one?
<Suzanne> I have bright red, patent leather buttons, would like to use black and white gingham print paper
<Janet> right now I'm in the middle of making a book for my niece Jena. and I'm thinking making a UTEE fancy J button for her closure
<cak> that would be lovely BC
<Janet> ohhh I could see it in the neutrals like Jam said
<joy> or a shrink it piece button
<Suzanne> or dyed ribbon to match dyed paper
<Janet> it's very convenient, her being named Jena, cuz I have a premiere collection of fancy J stamps
<BlackCats> yep, the possibilities are only limited by our imaginations
<cak> so the pattern comes from the change in texture not color! great idea
<fab> What is a J button?
<Jambalaya> THE LETTER J
<fab> Oh
<Suzanne> I think I'm gonna go shopping ladies! Thanks for the welcome
<Jambalaya> JANET, JENNA
<Janet> and why do I have J stamps?<g>
<cak> lol--I was wondering that at first too fab
<Jambalaya> IT SCARES ME WHEN I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO UNDERSTANDS JANET
<Janet> LOL channeling Janet is a very scary thing<g>
<Suzanne> You guys are great!
<BlackCats> so come on back and join in the fun whenever you get a chance
<BlackCats> great! glad to meet you
<Suzanne> ok Jam thanks you Cat and Janet set you all around
<Janet> and you've really stepped up to help teach this class in Red's absence. Thank you!!
<Jambalaya> OK, LET ME REPEAT RED'S SPECIALS ONE MORE TIME
<fab> I have to run, Thanks Jam for filling in
<Suzanne> k
* Janet perks
<phyl> me to and thanks Jam
<fab> Night now......
[specials detailed for closure]
<Janet> woo hoo!!!!
<BlackCats> wow!
<BlackCats> great deal!
<cak> good one, eh?
<cak> (although I think you're preachin' to the choir here Jamba)
<Janet> and free shipping to boot (cuz I've never put in an order less than $25 at enchanted ink)
<BlackCats> lol cak
<Janet> fer shure<g>
<Jambalaya> GOOD POINT CAK
<Jambalaya> LOSING CAPs now
<Janet> I think I need to go shopping tonight<g>
<BlackCats> although....let me remind y'all
<BlackCats> red said she's out of the tissues right now
<cak> aaaahhhh, relief, eh Jamba?
<BlackCats> but will have them again soon
<Janet> yeah, so I can wait. and then when they come it will be like a surprise!
<BlackCats> right
<Jambalaya> ya but she'll take the orders and let you know when she'll have them
<BlackCats> yep
<Janet> she said real soon.
<Janet> when I asked if she could make malachite looking paper
<Jambalaya> janet, find me a pic of malachite, and i'll look through my stash
<Jambalaya> unless you need a full sheet
<Janet> and I've convinced Mike I need new art stuffs for next week.
<Stampverb> me too janet
<Janet> naw, I just need to get enough for a small jewelry box
<cak> sounds like a nice project Janet
<Janet> actually let me give you the url for the jewelry I got her, it shows malachite pattern really nicely
<Stampverb> brb
<Janet> look here: http://imageserv01.yss4.com/images/cache/21156.gif
<Janet> that's her birthday gift
<Jambalaya> hmmm almost all green, huh?
<Janet> and I want to make a jewelry box to match it
<Janet> yes, and the part that isn't green is blue
<Janet> it's a copper ore
<cak> I love malachite
<Janet> me too!
<Janet> I wanted to keep Jena's jewelry when it came.
<Jambalaya> k, i'll look, but most likely no mostly green left, thats the first color i give away<g>
<Janet> LOL that's for sure.
<Janet> I do have several pieces of blue and green EI tissue, cuz that's the colors I hoard.<g>
<joy> don't like green?
<Janet> she doesn't like green, i don't like pink and purple that much. we were born to trade.
<Jambalaya> well, it's ok for grass and leaves
<Jambalaya> but ya, it's my least favorite color<g>
<BlackCats> how funny, mine too
<Janet> it's probably one of my most favorite colors. green, blue, yellow and neutrals
<Janet> pink is my least favorite
<Jambalaya> uh, purples and blues for me, monica is the purple and pink gal
<joy> well now I am scared thinking like Janet
<Janet> well but we fight over the blues<g>
<Janet> LOL Joy.
<BlackCats> ummm, more in the fuschia range
<cak> Janet and I would have to duke it out for papers then
<Janet> LOL fer shure. but I'm heavier than you. I could just sit on you and get what I want.
<cak> so you like the cooler pinks, BC?
<BlackCats> no, the hot pinks
<cak> lol--(don't count on being heavier though)
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<joy> well Jam I played with glaze pens today-what fun!
<Janet> tell!!!
<cak> did you do the Jamba blending joy?
<Jambalaya> oooooo cool
<BlackCats> those glaze pens are so cool
<joy> Oh, I just stamped transparency and colored in
<Janet> like a faux stained glass look?
<joy> yeah, I did the blending- had to make brown
<cak> I bet it's just beautiful
<joy> well I found which side to color on in a hurry
<Jambalaya> ??
<cak> there's a difference?
<cak> you were using inkjet stuff maybe?
<joy> I had trouble cause I tried to color over the ink
<joy> so I colored the other side instead
<cak> Oh! I see
<Janet> that way you don't have to be that neat, too
<joy> could just be the transparency has different type sides
<joy> it didn't look as good as Jam's yet but it will get there
<Jambalaya> actually the very next piece you do will be much easier
<cak> I know I hate to say this, but I will--practice makes perfect
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