<Jambalaya> glycerin from a drug store

<scout> how long do I leave it in?

<scout> then do I just wash off with water or soap or what?

<Jambalaya> till it's not hard anymore<g>

<Jambalaya> yep

<Jambalaya> soap and water won't hurt a stamp

<scout> Hope someone hasn't just plugged in, this could be taken the wrong way

<Jambalaya> hiya cak

<cak> hiya

<Jambalaya> lol, scout

<cak> you softening up stamps again?

<scout> naw, we wus just talken obscene

<cak> well, don't let me stop you!

<scout> tee hee

<scout> Actually, the stamp is not as hard as it is bumpy

<Jambalaya> is it mounted?

<scout> like the surface is breaking up

<scout> yes, it is mounted

<cak> Hi Julie and Star

<Jambalaya> ohhh, hmmmm

<cak> (scout has a bumpy stamp

<Star> hey

<Julie> hi guys

<Jambalaya> hi julie and star

<scout> or pitted, or what ever. Just trying to describe it

<Jambalaya> scout, it may be too far gone to save then

<scout> Still stamps fine, just worries me

<cak> how does it stamp scout--interesting texture?

<scout> Like a teenage stamp, with acne.

<cak> lol

<scout> No texture, just regular

<Jambalaya> did you use any "commercial cleaners" on it?

<Jambalaya> hi pat

<pmstamper> hi there.

<Jambalaya> cuz some commercial cleaners have some nasty solvents in them

<scout> It is a big address stamp with a matching "return address" stamp and the smaller one is fine. Nothing wrong with it.

<scout> No, did not use commercial cleaner

<Star> this reminds me of 20 questions

<Jambalaya> lol

<Jambalaya> scout is trying to save a stamp

<scout> Only one of all my old stamps that has done this. One of the first ones I got, many years ago

<Jambalaya> well, not all rubber is created equal, either

<pmstamper> Is is hardened? or mushy?

<scout> I really don't use it a lot, probably wouldn't even buy it today.

<scout> pm, the rubber that isn't the raised impression part of the stamp

<BlackCats> back

* pmstamper makes it 22 questions

<BlackCats> hi everyone

<scout> is sort of pitted or bumpy.

<Jambalaya> hi bc

<scout> stamp stamps just fine. Just don't want it to spread or fall apart

<Jambalaya> well, about all you can do is soak it in glycerin

<scout> Gosh, do you suppose I ought to "isolate it" in case it's a virus?

<pmstamper> hmm, I haven't seen that before.

<Jambalaya> lol

<Jambalaya> maybe

<Jambalaya> are you sure it wasn't always this way, and you just noticed it?

<scout> Being a gardener, I know there are times you have to either isolate it or destroy it.

<Jambalaya> since it stamps ok, i mean

<scout> No, it hasn't been that way.

<pmstamper> maybe it wasn't cured enough originally and really is beginning to break down.

<Jambalaya> i don't know if it could be contagious or not

<scout> Jam, I hope you realize I am kidding?

<Jambalaya> well, but it maybe could be<g>

<Jambalaya> i throw away stamp pads that look funky<g>

<Star> Jam, I didn't think you threw anything away

<pmstamper> lol

<Jambalaya> we don't play with mildew in new orleans, if it's possible, it has to go

<Star> oh, the NO rot

<Jambalaya> cuz it will spread like wildfire

<Jambalaya> but i'm pretty sure rubber can't mildew<g>

<Jambalaya> we wouldn't have any tires<g>

<Star> stamps are so durable that I wish they would wear out...then, I could convince dh I needed more

<scout> Today in a pot outside I found a new mushroom grouping. They were like miniature yellow male parts all coming up in a clump. Really interesting. Haven't seen that type before, so isolated them so I could see what happens when they grow up!

<Jambalaya> lol

<Star> I am not even going there

<scout> The color was really pretty....

<Jambalaya> no, lets get to our topic for tonight<g>

<scout> geez, have I chased Kriz off?

<Jambalaya> i don't think so

<Star> you know , I don't have a mushroom stamp

<Star> do you?

<scout> several, but none that look like that!X

<Star> lol

<cak> I haven't even stamped with a mushroom

<scout> I do have one with a fairy peeking out from underneath....

<BlackCats> who has tried a technique that should have worked but somehow didn't?

<Star> oh, that sounds cute

<BlackCats> hmmmm, y'all must all be very accomplished stampers to judge by the silence <G>

<scout> we are all thinking hard of your question. bc

<cak> this really isn't a technique but I tried stamping a somewhat large stamp over a grid cut from tracing paper...

<Jambalaya> lol

<cak> I never could get that silly thing to stamp all the way

<Jambalaya> it's hard to admit we made something that didn't turn out well, heh?

<BlackCats> large stamps are sometimes very hard to get a good impression from

<cak> I think it's more like we used what didn't work as something else!

<scout> I always see black stamps on polished stone that look great, but when I do it, it just doesn't look right

<BlackCats> what kind of ink do you use?

<scout> Stazon

<BlackCats> try brilliance, that works well for me

<Jambalaya> thats a good one scout, then it makes you scared to stamp right on something the next time

<scout> that's what they tell you to use on p. stone

<Jambalaya> i don't care much for stazon, myself

<BlackCats> ah, well, guess I failed to read the directions <G>

<BlackCats> I only use stazon for something like acetate or shrink plastic

<pmstamper> if you are looking for a true black, Evo's document ink is the most opaque black I have ever used.

<Jambalaya> i like document ink, or memeories india ink when i need a quick dry permanent ink

<Jambalaya> gmta pat

<BlackCats> versafine is also a good one to try

<Jambalaya> wb kriz

<BlackCats> wb kriz

<Kriztina> ty

<pmstamper> ; )

<BlackCats> scout, do you buff the polished stone cs with tissue before you stamp on it?

<scout> if I remember

<Jambalaya> btw, memories india, and document ink are the same ink

<pmstamper> can someone say what exactly polished stone technique is?

<scout> Somehow when I do it, the black just looks too stark

<Jambalaya> alcohol inks on glossy

<pmstamper> ty

<BlackCats> oh, I thought you were indicating that the image wasn't clear enough

<scout> well, that too

<Jambalaya> scout, try the brilliance black, you might like that better

<pmstamper> then brilliance graphite black might be better to try--it is softer look.

<scout> ok dokey

<Jambalaya> pat stop that<g>

<BlackCats> maybe you are using an image that just doesn't work well with this technique

<scout> and I have that one

<pmstamper> lol, I'll stop talking and just use ditto for the rest of the night---lol

<BlackCats> lol

<Jambalaya> no no, i'm teasing

<BlackCats> brilliance graphite black is the one I'd pick if I could have just one inkpad

<BlackCats> that's what I use most often

<pmstamper> we have to start saying "jinx" when that happens.

<Jambalaya> i'd have to pick versamark if i could only have one pad

<Star> Oh, BC, what a horrible scenerio....one stamp pad

<BlackCats> versamark would be my second pick

<BlackCats> lol star

<BlackCats> yeah, we'd all be hurting if that were the rule

<pmstamper> Oh, I'm glad y'all mentioned versamark--

<pmstamper> I tried using it for resist technique and it did not turn out too well at first.

<Star> I love my versamark too

<BlackCats> did you heat set it pat?

<Jambalaya> at first? then it got better?

<pmstamper> No and I think I was not waiting for it to dry long enough.

<BlackCats> yeah, you have to let it get completely dry or heat set it for that to work well

<pmstamper> I finally had to stamp a sheet and then wait overnight for the whole thing to dry before adding anything else.

<Jambalaya> you could heat set

<pmstamper> I'll have to try the heat setting next time I use it--thanks.

<Jambalaya> you know it takes forever for anything to dry here

<BlackCats> I heat set just about everything I do just to make double sure

<Jambalaya> the only resist you don't heat set is the alabaster chalk resist

<Jambalaya> and if you don't know what alabaster resist is, come to class next saturday

<BlackCats> good, I need a refresher on that idea

<BlackCats> something I've never had come out correctly is using moonglows and FFF to make background paper

<Jambalaya> i never tried that one, sounds so messy<g>

<BlackCats> I always end up with something unusable for anything at all

<BlackCats> not too very messy but doesn't work for me

<BlackCats> tho I'm background challenged when it comes to anything other than ink

<cak> how come?

<BlackCats> don't know

<Jambalaya> i never had much luck with the marvy metallic marker thing

<BlackCats> me neither

<cak> I mean, why do you consider it unsuccessful? lumpy? muddy?

<BlackCats> it looks so easy when you see it at live conventions but nevers turns out that well at home

<BlackCats> lumpy and muddy, cak

<Jambalaya> could be the paper too though

<cak> lol--no half measures for you!

<BlackCats> not attractive at all

<BlackCats> lol

<Jambalaya> some glossy is more absorbent than others

<BlackCats> I've tried it on regular and glossy cs and neither turns out well

<Julie> I have found that technique is all in the paper you use

<Julie> the slicker the better

<BlackCats> the instructions I have say you can put several different colors of moonglows into the fff

<pmstamper> oh yes..that's true. You cannot use glossy picture printing paper as a substitute for glossy CS. It sucks up ink in an instant.

<Star> so true

<BlackCats> and that when you spray it the different colors will be seen individually but that's not what I get

<pmstamper> is this in a spray bottle?

<BlackCats> ah, so guess I need to get some high quality glossy and try again

<cak> do you think they mean different colors in different sprayers?

<Star> metalic markers swirls and run well on glossy, but sometimes I help them with a q tip

<BlackCats> yes, one of the little spritzer bottles just jhone sells

<Jambalaya> well, some colors would work better than others when you mix them

<Star> just like cocktails, Jam

<Jambalaya> for instance, blue and green might blend more than say blue and gold

<BlackCats> hmmmm, guess I need to experiment some more

<Star> how do you keep the metalic markers from splitting and tearing when using as an outline around cardstock? Every Christmas I run into this problem when I am using a lot of gold around the edges

<Jambalaya> you want the krylon to split

<pmstamper> oooh, that is a good question, Star.

<Star> yes, but after about 10 cards the edging get uneven

<Star> gets uneven because krylon is separating too much

<Jambalaya> ahhhh, you need to take care to always put the pen on the card in the same spot

<Jambalaya> and not use a lot of pressure

<Star> wow, I have not observed if I am using same spot or not

<Jambalaya> see?

<Star> se senora'

<Star> is that how you spell it?

<BlackCats> I've seen it suggested that you take a craft knife and cut a lil slit in the middle of the nib before you use it for the first time

<Jambalaya> oh and my rule is, i never ever let anyone else use my krylon

<BlackCats> and always put your cs into that groove

<Star> well, I too am selfish like Jam; so, it must be me screwin' it up

<pmstamper> lol

<Jambalaya> i never found a need to cut it, the first card you use it on will make the "groove" for you

<BlackCats> also, you can take the nib out and turn it around for a fresh nib

<Julie> and you can buy new nibs now too

<Jambalaya> oh and another thing about krylon

<pmstamper> does Krylon really dry on paper and not rub off? Because it rubs off on dominos.

<Star> hmmm, mine gets so frayed, I don't think it would fit upside down

<Jambalaya> when you think you shook it up enough? shake it that much longer

<BlackCats> uh huh

<Star> there's a whole lot of shakin goin on

<BlackCats> same with sailor glue pens

<Jambalaya> and then pump it on scrap paper till it's really puddling

<Jambalaya> it needs to be very wet to get a nice even line

<Jambalaya> and they do sell replacement nibs, i think m store has them

<Star> thanks all...jet lag again...going to bed early

<Jambalaya> nite star

<BlackCats> nite star

<Star> night

<BlackCats> sweet dreams

<Jambalaya> the copper krylon has a ton of grease in it

<Jambalaya> there is no amount of shaking that will help that<g>

<BlackCats> ah, good to know

<BlackCats> the new red pen is nice but a bit on the dry side no matter how much you shake and pump it

<Jambalaya> it's ok on some papers, but will "bleed" on more absorbent papers

<pmstamper> I didn't know about copper one. I only have silver and gold.

<pmstamper> what shade of red is it, jam?

<Jambalaya> copper has been around for years, but there are 2 new colors

<Jambalaya> a red gold, and a light gold

<Jambalaya> idunno, i haven't gotten the red one yet, monica?

<BlackCats> it's red/gold

<pmstamper> opps, sorry BC, I was not following along well.

<BlackCats> np

<BlackCats> I'm not sure I'd have gotten it if I'd seen it on paper before I bought it

<Jambalaya> good to know

<BlackCats> just as an edging it just didn't have the oomph I wanted so I had to use a ruler and make several passes to get the amount of color I wanted

<Julie> but you did a wonderful card using it not too long ago BC

<BlackCats> ty

<pmstamper> ? Do you have a scan?

<BlackCats> in the end it did turn out looking nice, just had to use a ruler and make several passes

<BlackCats> uhhhh, let me look pat

<BlackCats> that was a class I did for Red Castle not long ago

<BlackCats> http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=7345477&uid=1026244

<BlackCats> the second card

<Julie> my challenge seems to be either sponging or stenciling

<pmstamper> thanks. I am going to look. I have to enter the address by hand as it won't open another window for me or block and copy for some reason.

<Jambalaya> did you put the krylon on the stamp?

<Julie> mine never turn out as good as Evo

<Julie> when I sponge, I get the dreaded sponge lines

<BlackCats> no, the kryon was used to make the stripe along the edge of the card

<Jambalaya> oooooo i can solve that one julie

<Julie> I should just put you on speed dial Jam--lol!

<BlackCats> lol

<Jambalaya> get a wood dowel, or the leftover handle from a foam brush that fell apart

<Jambalaya> cut a piece of old pantyhose about 5" square

<Jambalaya> lay the pantyhose down on a flat surface

<Jambalaya> stack 2 cosmetic wedges on top of that

<Jambalaya> pull the pantyhose up around the sponges

<Jambalaya> then wind a rubber band around that

<Jambalaya> pull the pantyhose tight

<pmstamper> I got to look BC, great cards! Thanks!

<Jambalaya> so now you have a rounded sponge

<BlackCats> ty

<Jambalaya> make sense?

<cak> it gives a beautiful airbrushed look--I've seen it in person

<Julie> yes, thank you--I'm going to do that tomorrow

<Jambalaya> yep, no one believes it's sponged

<cak> but you have so much control over it (unlike spray)

<Jambalaya> i especially love this "tool" with distress inks, but it works with any inks

<Julie> cool idea Jam

<Julie> next, I've got to find Evo's stenciling 101 class--I'm sure she's got one

<Jambalaya> lol

<Jambalaya> ok, and the trick to stippling, is to dedicate a brush to a color, and start stippling off the edge of the paper and work in

<Julie> is it really suppose to be so light and you have to do a ton of layers to darken?

<Jambalaya> yes

<Julie> ok, then my problem is patience :)

<Jambalaya> yep<g>

<Jambalaya> patience is relative, if you love the look, you'll have more patience to accomplish it

<Julie> I guess I need a class in patience--can we add that in for next convention--lol!

<Jambalaya> uhhhhhh i don't think you can teach patience on line<g>

<Jambalaya> can't scan it<g>

<BlackCats> lol

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